Reverse WW - Game Thread

[genny]

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I'm flattered by how confident y'all seem to be that I'm village, and I want village to win, but I also like playing and don't want to die day 2.

lynch allie

 

[WildZoo]

I'm flattered by how confident y'all seem to be that I'm village, and I want village to win, but I also like playing and don't want to die day 2.

lynch allie

You're only making yourself look more village here!

 

[Animal Midwife]

Official Day 2 Cotton Candy Tally
dubz (1) - cubs
genny (3) - dubz, miz, Nav
MsP (1) - SAR
Barks (1) - Pippy
allie (1) - genny

7/17
lynch close in ~31 hrs

 

[Ms Procrastinator]

lynch msp

My strongest village read with Coop dead.

My first reaction why I saw lynch beside my name was WHAT! and then I was like oh yeah.

 

[Navilly]

I'm flattered by how confident y'all seem to be that I'm village, and I want village to win, but I also like playing and don't want to die day 2.

lynch allie

Then you should have gone with the patented Navilly strategy of half trolling the thread.

 

[genny]

Then you should have gone with the patented Navilly strategy of half trolling the thread.

I'm trying really hard to resist that very thing. Putting doubt in people's minds is not going to help the village win.

 

[mypetmoose]

Welcome to a brand new WW journey brought to you by me, @StayingPositive2017, @Melchizedek, and @kaydubs.

Win conditions
Villagers must achieve parity with wolves.
Wolves must get killed until only villagers remain.

Mechanics
Lynch close is 10PM EDT.
Night close is 10AM EDT.
Assume lynch is closed when majority is hit even if no mod is available.
Ties are resolved with one candidate dying by RNG.
Majority starts Day 2.
Wolf kills are mandatory.
No Lynch is prohibited.

Rules
1. You cannot self-lynch unless it puts you at majority.
2. Make at least 5 posts per cycle. Naked lynch votes don't count.
3. Everything may be edited but lynch votes.
4. Treat everyone with respect.
“You are extremely dumb.” [emoji107]
“Your argument is extremely dumb.” [emoji106]
5. Spectators cannot post in game thread.
6. Dead cannot post anything in game thread but encouragement for their preferred team.
7. No screenshots.

Potential Useful Links

Completed: Reverse Mafia Gamethread

www.mafiauniverse.com

Reverse Mafia: Over!

Reverse Mafia: Over!

www.bay12forums.com

Roster
0. @Dr. ForgotToFlush
1. @SARdoghandler
2. @genny
3. @mypetmoose
4. @dolphin106258
6. @acanthuroidei
7. @Navilly
8. @cubsrule4e
9. @mizchiefmanaged
10. @Ms Procrastinator
11. @Barkley13
12. @grebes4lyfe
13. @PippyPony
14. @allieh8607
15. @Coopah
16. @WildZoo
17. @SportPonies
18. @Mad Jack
19. @FrostySparrow

Welcome to a brand new WW journey brought to you by me, @StayingPositive2017, @Melchizedek, and @kaydubs.

Win conditions
Villagers must achieve parity with wolves.
Wolves must get killed until only villagers remain.

Mechanics
Lynch close is 10PM EDT.
Night close is 10AM EDT.
Assume lynch is closed when majority is hit even if no mod is available.
Ties are resolved with one candidate dying by RNG.
Majority starts Day 2.
Wolf kills are mandatory.


No Lynch is prohibited. (Idk how to hold on mobile so LOOK AT THIS!)



Rules
1. You cannot self-lynch unless it puts you at majority.
2. Make at least 5 posts per cycle. Naked lynch votes don't count.
3. Everything may be edited but lynch votes.
4. Treat everyone with respect.
“You are extremely dumb.” [emoji107]
“Your argument is extremely dumb.” [emoji106]
5. Spectators cannot post in game thread.
6. Dead cannot post anything in game thread but encouragement for their preferred team.
7. No screenshots.

Potential Useful Links

Completed: Reverse Mafia Gamethread

www.mafiauniverse.com

Reverse Mafia: Over!

Reverse Mafia: Over!

www.bay12forums.com

Roster
0. @Dr. ForgotToFlush
1. @SARdoghandler
2. @genny
3. @mypetmoose
4. @dolphin106258
6. @acanthuroidei
7. @Navilly
8. @cubsrule4e
9. @mizchiefmanaged
10. @Ms Procrastinator
11. @Barkley13
12. @grebes4lyfe
13. @PippyPony
14. @allieh8607
15. @Coopah
16. @WildZoo
17. @SportPonies
18. @Mad Jack
19. @FrostySparrow

@PippyPony

Your strategy unfortunately is thwarted... that would've been the BEST loophole

 

[Ms Procrastinator]

Then you should have gone with the patented Navilly strategy of half trolling the thread.

What are your reads?

 

[Navilly]

What are your reads?

That genny is village.

 

[Navilly]

I'm trying really hard to resist that very thing. Putting doubt in people's minds is not going to help the village win.

Or maybe it’s a good idea to have stronger players present at end game 😛. Although at the same time I like the idea of lynching near sure villagers off the bat.

 

[cubsrule4e]

What are your reads?

I think he's partial to Forbes and Better Home and Gardens

 

[Dr. ForgotToFlush]

and we're back

 

[Navilly]

I think he's partial to Forbes and Better Home and Gardens

What makes you think this? This is the sketchiest thing you have said all game

 

[genny]

Or maybe it’s a good idea to have stronger players present at end game 😛. Although at the same time I like the idea of lynching near sure villagers off the bat.

I think it's a good idea to have a couple of strong village reads alive at endgame.

 

[PippyPony]

No, it’s him being antagonistic and trying to rile you up, knowing how you’ve been saying you’d like to be finished with the game in a few days because you’re leaving to go somewhere.

I would hope he wouldn't be bitter enough at me for snapping at him last game do that just for the hell of it

 

[PippyPony]

omg are you a wolf?

Based on my experience with dogs, I feel like wolves would like peanut butter

 

[PippyPony]

Why not both?

And I don’t think that only those that are Wolfy should be brought to end game.

Can you answer my question please

 

[Dr. ForgotToFlush]

time to randlynch a coop voter

 

[PippyPony]

Then you should have gone with the patented Navilly strategy of half trolling the thread.

Not a good strategy in this game, but I see we are stubbornly forging ahead anyways

 

[Dr. ForgotToFlush]

vote moose

 

[PippyPony]

@PippyPony

Your strategy unfortunately is thwarted... that would've been the BEST loophole

It says we cannot "No Lynch." Voting for No Lynch is different from just peacing out and not voting. And I'm not even sure how mods would penalize that behavior, because mod kills would help both affiliations and keeping people alive would be painful for mods, too.

It's actually probably the best strategy because there is mechanically a zero % chance of error.

But still somehow feels lazy/game-breaking to me, and I don't want to be that person, so here we are

 

[PippyPony]

Or maybe it’s a good idea to have stronger players present at end game 😛. Although at the same time I like the idea of lynching near sure villagers off the bat.

Are you including yourself in either of these groups?

 

[Navilly]

Are you including yourself in either of these groups?

Am I?

 

[PippyPony]

Am I?

I have no idea what is going on in your head lately, so I'm not sure why you are asking me

 

[Navilly]

I have no idea what is going on in your head lately, so I'm not sure why you are asking me

I mean you just need to read me. Am I villager or wolf? What are my goals?

 

[allieh8607]

and we're back

we missed you so much

 

[genny]

Based on my experience with dogs, I feel like wolves would like peanut butter

I think villagers do too.

 

[Barkley13]

Man I want to say that nav feels village but I also know to never trust him ever

 

[dolphin106258]

Man I want to say that nav feels village but I also know to never trust him ever

Has he mentioned me yet? If not probs a wolf

 

[WildZoo]

vote moose

You haven't said much. What do you think wolves would be doing to try to win this game?

 

[dolphin106258]

I think villagers do too.

The peanut butter has me thinking about the fact that I really want to make a peanut butter and pickle sandwich.

 

[dolphin106258]

I mean you just need to read me. Am I villager or wolf? What are my goals?

And seem to be your goals.

 

[WildZoo]

Has he mentioned me yet? If not probs a wolf

A quick search reveals no mentions of dolph, dolphins, or dolphino by navilly in this thread

The peanut butter has me thinking about the fact that I really want to make a peanut butter and pickle sandwich.

In a normal game I would lynch you for this

 

[dolphin106258]

Why is that angry? That was a great game.

Dolphin is acting strange. Exactly 5 posts in a 36 day cycle, 2 of them were just a single emoji, and yet she was worried about the people who were "talking too much." Im just not sure which way this swings her in this game.

It swings as busy. But yes I pointed out certain people talking too much and what they were saying was giving me feels. I can point out people are talking too much without having to actually speak as much as them. And that was kind of my point, you don’t have to be speaking 20 times a day to get a point across or to be playing effectively.

 

[mypetmoose]

The peanut butter has me thinking about the fact that I really want to make a peanut butter and pickle sandwich.

Have you ever done a shot and chased with pickle juice? I like pickles, but the pb combo or alchy combo freaks me out.

On a more game related note, what do ya think about flushy? Wz too.

 

[dolphin106258]

A quick search reveals no mentions of dolph, dolphins, or dolphino by navilly in this thread


In a normal game I would lynch you for this

Hmmmm. Just food for thought on Nav. And lol that’s fine, I really thought about it and I am hungry so I apologize for my non game related content.

 

[mypetmoose]

You haven't said much. What do you think wolves would be doing to try to win this game?

I'd be curious to hear you answer your own question too. Verses what villagers should do to win.

 

[dolphin106258]

Have you ever done a shot and chased with pickle juice? I like pickles, but the pb combo or alchy combo freaks me out.

On a more game related note, what do ya think about flushy? Wz too.

Flushy seems the same as before, but I don’t necessarily think I have a great read so neutral. Dubz seems village but usually when I think that they’re a wolf

 

[Navilly]

Hmmmm. Just food for thought on Nav. And lol that’s fine, I really thought about it and I am hungry so I apologize for my non game related content.

So long as that food for my thoughts is not peanut butter, I hear that is wolf fodder

 

[dolphin106258]

Have you ever done a shot and chased with pickle juice? I like pickles, but the pb combo or alchy combo freaks me out.

On a more game related note, what do ya think about flushy? Wz too.

Oh also to answer your hydrated question I have not. I eat a lot of weird sandwich combos as a kid but I have never done pickle and PB.

 

[mypetmoose]

Flushy seems the same as before, but I don’t necessarily think I have a great read so neutral. Dubz seems village but usually when I think that they’re a wolf [emoji23]

Before = when? Hasn't flushy played 2 games? Or did I make that up lol?

 

[dolphin106258]

Before = when? Hasn't flushy played 2 games? Or did I make that up lol?

Before as in the past games I’ve played with them.

 

[acanthuroidei]

Lynch allieh8607

 

[Barkley13]

Oh also to answer your hydrated question I have not. I eat a lot of weird sandwich combos as a kid but I have never done pickle and PB.

Okay but pb and bacon tho

 

[WildZoo]

Read the smaller game first

Game 2 (Bay 12):
6 players
Wolf win (a sweep I suppose? Both lynches were wolves anyway)
Helpful posts:

The basic concept of this game can basically be called 'find one scum to win'.
In pure mountainous mafia, scum win if a scum player is in the top two least lynch-able players. Town need to fit both of these slots with town players who are not killed by mafia to win, which is often quite hard to achieve.
This, on the other hand, is not a hard game. Any scum player who actually irrevocably slips up and outs themselves will lose the game for scum, as every member of the scum team must be lynched.
Town, on the other hand, needs only lose half it's members, or at worst three. This gives a margin of leeway incase any member of town screws up, such as by making a gamble on a player at L-1 and hammering scum by mistake.

The only real fear (until we lynch mafia) is that we put a player at 'L-1' and allow them to self hammer. This has already been stated in the thread, but it's so obviously true and relevant that it bears repeating.
With this in mind, we must unfortunately assume that any player who does do this has the same causal responsibility as a player who actually places the hammer.

I do have a suspicion that some of this may not quite apply in this game. Just a feeling that there are twisty bits here. But the basic strategy holds. Paying attention to vote progression will be very important here. Not that it isn't always. Oh! That reminds me i need to make a lynch tracker for yesterday.

I'd say its townsided because the mafia has a hard time coming back from any mistake they make, thus the best strategy is to just have everyone generate lots of content and create the most opportunities for mafia to make mistakes. As for my ultimatum: I will not seriously vote for any player not engage in a meaningful discussion with the rest of the players. If you are less active but post on a regular basis with decent content that is fine.

A former version of myself wants to like this post
It raises an interesting question for me though. What does pressure look like in a game like this? Do we tell people if they don't start contributing soon we will NEVER EVER vote for them? Does that carry the same weight as a lynch vote (or two or three) does in a normal game? Does it matter if it doesn't?

In this game it looks like wolf strategy was...one wolf came out of the gate with a reaction test (put himself at L-1 and no hammer occurred) that paid dividends...and the other barely posted and then subbed out right before winning?? Both things were kind of...odd, both got the wolves town read pretty quick. Fancy play, fancy rewards.

I think it did the village no favors to have a villager declare themselves as an unlynchable tbh. I'll have to see if something similar happened in the other game (that one was a village win). In theory that would work out but in practice you take one of your villagers off the table and that automatically makes it more likely that you'll lynch a wolf.

 

[cubsrule4e]

Oh also to answer your hydrated question I have not. I eat a lot of weird sandwich combos as a kid but I have never done pickle and PB.

PB and pickles is done best just right out of the jar. Claussen or Vlasic dills with the Smuckers All Natural - less sweet, and drier, balances perfectly with the juiciness and sour of the pickle

 

[Barkley13]

Not that anyone asked me but I feel like FTF seems quieter than usual but I don’t know what to make of it

 

[WildZoo]

Hmmmm. Just food for thought on Nav. And lol that’s fine, I really thought about it and I am hungry so I apologize for my non game related content.

Oh not for the OT content. For the grossness 😛

 

[WildZoo]

I'd be curious to hear you answer your own question too. Verses what villagers should do to win.

I'll answer after FTF does, maybe, if I feel like it

 

[Barkley13]

PB and pickles is done best just right out of the jar. Claussen or Vlasic dills with the Smuckers All Natural - less sweet, and drier, balances perfectly with the juiciness and sour of the pickle

Wow so descriptive. I guess you really deserved that taste testing job lol