Reverse WW - Game Thread

[Animal Midwife]

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Official Day 4 Missy Elliot Lynch Tally
grebes (1) - Frosty
SAR (1) - grebes
FTF (1) - acan
3/13
lynch close in ~32.5 hrs

 

[WildZoo]

But I get village from pip; after last game feel like I might know her play better? To trust her enough to follow in staying away from considering this for now, we can tackle the more sketch peeps later.

What? I played for one day in the last game.

I got what I figured would’ve been your normal reads, etc. in dead chat and am basing how I feel about you by comparing the chat/game to now. And even though you played 1 day, you were one of the most vocal/active people imo and it still gives me a decent amount to feel into.

Ah ok, that's fair. I guess 4+ pages of solo dead chat rambling should count for something lol

You said by Tuesday! Are you trying to get rid of us that quickly? 😱

Today is Monday, and there is no vote or night cycle on Tuesday 🙂

Oh my god *facepalm* I didn’t realize what day it was!😳

unlynch msp
Lynch pip

Enjoy all of the vacation and anniversary fun!

In retrospect this interaction reads like a really nice setup to get the pip vote rolling. Wolfy points to frosty.

Unlynch Barks
Lynch Pippy

Even tho this makes me feel bad Bc I killed you early last game and hurt your feelings

It's ok. It's a different circumstance in this case, right?

Something about this makes me uncomfortable and I can't quite put my finger on it. So I iso'd dolphin to see if there were any other interactions with pip and I couldn't find any. Dolphino has been hanging back a lot anyway. The last time I remember her being this low-content was when she was non-village in the unknown game I think?


Reading pip's interactions with nav has not been helpful for me deciding what to think about him. Too much WIFOM because i know those crafty bastards would fabricate authentic-looking interactions every time.

Trackers up next.

 

[WildZoo]

Oops, I mean...those people with crafty bastard strategies 😉


(Crafty Bastard is also the name of a brewery here. @cubsrule4e may appreciate.)

 

[WildZoo]

Wanted to note that at least by memory, allie was the one who was like "If pip is a wolf, since we've already got MJ." I just don't see a wolf making that statement, so as things get whittled down and I have fewer options to choose from, she's probably the first of the remaining pip voters that I would vote for.

 

[WildZoo]

Would like current reads from:
@dolphin106258
@Dr. ForgotToFlush (though he will probably shrug at me)
@allieh8607
...and @Mad Jack, just for fun

Would like to know @SARdoghandler and @cubsrule4e's feelings on the above players as well.

And would like to know @Barkley13 and @grebes4lyfe feelings on cubs and SAR.

 

[Barkley13]

Wolves have been night-killing the runner up lynch candidate when they are village. A good strategy to test unknowns is to put people we're not sure of in the second place position and see what happens after the night cycle; obviously someone surviving isn't definitive proof they're a wolf, but it's definitely informative.

This is a good thought, except now that you’ve pointed it out I can see how the wolves may decide to change their tactics to add some confusion

 

[Barkley13]

And would like to know @Barkley13 and @grebes4lyfe feelings on cubs and SAR

I’ve been going back and forth on cubs a lot. At first I was leaning village but then yesterday when he barely posted at all I started questioning it
And I said I’d be good with an SAR lynch today

 

[SARdoghandler]

Would like current reads from:
@dolphin106258
@Dr. ForgotToFlush (though he will probably shrug at me)
@allieh8607
...and @Mad Jack, just for fun

Would like to know @SARdoghandler and @cubsrule4e's feelings on the above players as well.

I detailed some thoughts on Allie last night but to resummarize she sounds like village Allie to me. Dolphin is like low-key wolfy read. Her level of participation has felt off and it reminds me of when we wolfed together in Nav's game. F2F is solidly neutral for me right now - I keep making tallies in both columns and it keeps evening out. I have MJ hard wolf. I think that he slipped up early on in the game and the way Pippy was interacting with him on thread felt w/w to me after I re-read following her flip.

 

[SARdoghandler]

Lynch Barks

For now, but okay with Grebes too

 

[grebes4lyfe]

And would like to know @Barkley13 and @grebes4lyfe feelings on cubs and SAR.

Well considering I’m lynching SAR I’m not sure what else you want from me there.

Neutral on cubs.

 

[acanthuroidei]

This is a good thought, except now that you’ve pointed it out I can see how the wolves may decide to change their tactics to add some confusion

No ****, Sherlock.

 

[dolphin106258]

Lynch Barks

For now, but okay with Grebes too

I’ve actually voted here I think twice this game but nobody would go there Bc everyone thought Barks was Wolfy. Since you stated your feels on me does me voting there change your thoughts on this vote?

 

[grebes4lyfe]

No ****, Sherlock.

i want to lynch you so badly

i hate this “keep the wolves alive” thing

 

[dolphin106258]

In retrospect this interaction reads like a really nice setup to get the pip vote rolling. Wolfy points to frosty.



Something about this makes me uncomfortable and I can't quite put my finger on it. So I iso'd dolphin to see if there were any other interactions with pip and I couldn't find any. Dolphino has been hanging back a lot anyway. The last time I remember her being this low-content was when she was non-village in the unknown game I think?


Reading pip's interactions with nav has not been helpful for me deciding what to think about him. Too much WIFOM because i know those crafty bastards would fabricate authentic-looking interactions every time.

Trackers up next.

Yeah that interaction with pip was gross and I should’ve picked up that it meant I’m a wolf this time whereas last time I wolfed and she was village. But yeah I’ve been not participating because this week plus my birthday has been a bit hectic. And I had a test on Monday. But I get the low post content argument Bc I’d probably think the same thing of myself.

 

[WildZoo]

Sorry grebes and barks, looks like some posts didn't load before I asked that lol

 

[dolphin106258]

Would like current reads from:
@dolphin106258
@Dr. ForgotToFlush (though he will probably shrug at me)
@allieh8607
...and @Mad Jack, just for fun

Would like to know @SARdoghandler and @cubsrule4e's feelings on the above players as well.

And would like to know @Barkley13 and @grebes4lyfe feelings on cubs and SAR.

You I have leaning slight village. Grebes as village as well. MJ is kinda obvious at this point he’s Wolfy so I’ve just been ignoring him outside of looking at his voting. I believe he’s voted for you and Barks during the game but that honestly makes me feel better about the pair of you. FTF I have no clue, along with acanth. Cubs feels village to me thus far despite lower amount of posts (not that I can talk). SAR is always hard for me but the level of thoughts/reads that have been given make me want to go village but definitely not my strongest read. Allie I’ve had village something about her tone in the posts I’ve read gave me that thought. Nav I’m just not even gonna go there. Who’s left?

 

[dolphin106258]

Oh Frosty is left, hmmm not sure how I feel about forgetting that. Will ISO and come back with thoughts.

 

[mizchiefmanaged]

*****lynch grebes*****

Has made some solid points and seems pretty village to me.

 

[dolphin106258]

*****lynch grebes*****

Has made some solid points and seems pretty village to me.

Lol and Miz whoops wow.

 

[dolphin106258]

Oh Frosty is left, hmmm not sure how I feel about forgetting that. Will ISO and come back with thoughts.

Most of her votes and reads outside of Pip have all been confirmed villagers. And she pegged them as such. Idk I am feeling village on frosty too.

 

[dolphin106258]

Upon reading Miz is more neutral to village-ish lean but only slightly some of her posts bothered me a bit but not too much. Definitely not comfortable voting there today.

 

[grebes4lyfe]

Idk how many wolves we think we have but my solid wolf reads are MJ, acanth, and FTF

 

[dolphin106258]

Lynch Barks

 

[acanthuroidei]

Grebes and Miz are wolves.

 

[acanthuroidei]

I disagree very strongly with this. I think that his randlynching and playing a stats game is a wolfy out so that he doesn't have to weigh the risks of trying to lynch a wolf. The random lynching gives him a way to not actually have to try and lynch villagers, and if he is on a wolf lynch, he has an excuse that "well it was random and statistically i should have been on a villager."
Pro-village is voting for whoever you think is most village.

Same goes to you too. Joke voting a mod doesn't do **** for village either.

Statistics disagrees with you.

People voting for people they THINK are village is not a guaranteed result of villagers being lynched. Village voting error is what the wolves would need to happen to win this.

Voting for a mod = not voting for a wolf.

 

[acanthuroidei]

i want to lynch you so badly

i hate this “keep the wolves alive” thing

I'm sure you do. I guess you'll just have to settle for night killing me instead.

 

[Barkley13]

Voting for a mod = not voting for a wolf.

Voting for a mod also = not voting for a villager 🙄

 

[allieh8607]

Grebes and Miz are wolves.

Please elaborate

 

[acanthuroidei]

Voting for a mod also = not voting for a villager 🙄

That's what wolves are for. They're killing a villager for us each night anyways.

 

[acanthuroidei]

Could go for an MPM lynch today. She’s been reading pretty village to me.

well my sure village reads are all dead now 🙁

feeling pretty good about SAR though

so

lynch SAR

Dammit. There goes my easy read.

*****lynch grebes*****

Has made some solid points and seems pretty village to me.

@allieh8607
They're trying to set one of themselves up to get lynched today.

 

[acanthuroidei]

Well considering I’m lynching SAR I’m not sure what else you want from me there.

Neutral on cubs.

@allieh8607
The neutral read on cubs is interesting and suspicious.

 

[acanthuroidei]

Idk how many wolves we think we have but my solid wolf reads are MJ, acanth, and FTF

@allieh8607
Anyone calling a villager (me) a "solid wolf" goes straight onto my wolf list.

 

[grebes4lyfe]

[emoji849][emoji849][emoji849]

 

[Barkley13]

@allieh8607
Anyone calling a villager (me) a "solid wolf" goes straight onto my wolf list.

And how are we supposed to know you’re village?

 

[acanthuroidei]

And how are we supposed to know you’re village?

You don't, but I'm sharing what informed my decision.

 

[Melchizedek]

Official Day 4 Missy Elliot Lynch Tally
grebes (2) - Frosty, Miz
SAR (1) - grebes
FTF (1) - acan
Barks (2) - SAR, Dolphin
6/13
lynch close in .....too much math.

 

[dolphin106258]

@allieh8607
Anyone calling a villager (me) a "solid wolf" goes straight onto my wolf list.

This reminds me of noobs in space

 

[Navilly]

Let’s do, ******lynch wildzoo******

Feels like an interesting movie at this time.

 

[WildZoo]

Let’s do, ******lynch wildzoo******

Feels like an interesting movie at this time.

Oh hai. You planning to actually do that whole "deciding who gets lynched" thing now? 😉

 

[Navilly]

Oh hai. You planning to actually do that whole "deciding who gets lynched" thing now? 😉

Eh I worked until 12:30 am and woke up at 5 am to handle several inpatients, to then go into 5 surgeries today. There is minimal tolerance for sass today lol...

 

[WildZoo]

Eh I worked until 12:30 am and woke up at 5 am to handle several inpatients, to then go into 5 surgeries today. There is minimal tolerance for sass today lol...

Yikes. Go get some sleep, dude.

 

[WildZoo]

Day 2 Lynch Tracker

dubz (1) - cubs
genny (1) - dubz
genny (2) - dubz, miz
MsP (1) - SAR
barks (1) - pip
genny (3) - dubz, miz, nav
allie (1) - genny
mpm (1) - FTF
allie (1) - roid
barks (2) - pip, dolphino
MsP (2) - SAR, grebes
barks (1) - pip, dolphino
MsP (3) - SAR, grebes, pip
mpm (0) - FTF
MsP (4) - SAR, grebes, pip, FTF
cubs (1) - barks
MsP (5) - SAR, grebes, pip, FTF, frosty
allie (2) - roid, MJ
MSP (4) - SAR, grebes, pip, FTF, frosty
pip (1) - frosty
pip (2) - frosty, MsP
pip (3) - frosty, MsP, mpm
msP (3) - SAR, grebes, pip, FTF, frosty
miz (1) - FTF
barks (0) - pip, dolphino
pip (4) - frosty, MsP, mpm, dolphino
pip (3) - frosty, MsP, mpm, dolphino
dubz (0) - cubs
pip (4) - frosty, MsP, mpm, dolphino, cubs
pip (5) - frosty, MsP, mpm, dolphino, cubs, allie
allie (1) - roid, MJ
sporty (1) - MJ
genny (4) - dubz, miz, nav, MsP
late unvote genny and vote pip - nav

 

[Navilly]

I finally understand how Mad Jack plays:

 

[WildZoo]

Lol why is everyone so sketchy right now Anyway, overall lynch progression has me reading allie village. For the comment I mentioned earlier and that the effort that went into the pip lynch looks super weird in retrospect if wolves already had a candidate on the board. No need to go all out for a pip lynch when they could have just let the allie lynch happen instead (as I recall, several people were reading her village then anyway). The MJ vote complicates this but I think he's been hopping onto village lynches to try to spook people. So I'm thinking she's village.

I would be voting SAR today if not for the fact that I'm uncomfortable with the idea of voting with grebes. So I'll have to see if my read outweighs that discomfort lol

SAR
allie
Nav
miz
cubs
FTF
acanth
dolphin
frosty
grebes
barks
MJ

 

[WildZoo]

lynch allie

 

[acanthuroidei]

lynch allie

How do you feel about Allie voting for Pippy and voting with cubs? And how do you feel about Pippy's initial vote being on Allie? I RNGed Allie on D1 and used her for my D1 and D2 lynch votes, but then got scared off.

 

[WildZoo]

How do you feel about Allie voting for Pippy and voting with cubs? And how do you feel about Pippy's initial vote being on Allie? I RNGed Allie on D1 and used her for my D1 and D2 lynch votes, but then got scared off.

In light of her general gameplay and the comments she made surrounding the pip lynch, I am ok with that vote. A wolf simply doesn't come out and say "Well if we lynch a wolf that's fine since we know another one." It just doesn't happen, it's the kind of carefree commentary that only villagers really think to say. I don't have any opinion about her voting with cubs (cubs is one who I need to reevaluate more closely when I get the chance). And I don't really think it makes a difference one way or the other that pip initially voted allie to start the game. It wasn't a meaningful vote.

 

[WildZoo]

Ok so in my last 5 minutes...

Top wolf reads are MJ and Acanth. Also potentially Grebes, got some weird feels from her posts on D1.

Top village reads are Ms P, Cubs, Miz, Barks, Nav, probably in that order.

There's almost definitely no third party, so anyone pushing that is looking for something to talk about.

I asked about power roles D1, but no one wanted to talk about it, I guess. If there are village power roles that stop kills, they obviously should not be used unless it's mandated. If there is a village assassin they should take out people ASAP to get the best chance of hitting a villager.

I would normally hope that there was life after death in a game where people are supposed to want to die, but this time I hope there is not.

Incidentally I kind of want to try to analyze this post, but
1) I'm too tired right now and
2) It is almost akin to an outted wolf post, since she knew she was about to be lynched

It's still tempting though, so if I get bored tomorrow I may attempt it lol
For now just color coding the "reads" she provided

MsP
cubs
miz
barks
nav
grebes
roid
MJ

Not mentioned: Dubz, dolphin, allie, FTF, frosty, SAR, mpm, genny

 

[acanthuroidei]

A wolf simply doesn't come out and say "Well if we lynch a wolf that's fine since we know another one." It just doesn't happen, it's the kind of carefree commentary that only villagers really think to say.

But this is REVERSE WW, so doesn't that make it exactly the kind of thing a wolf would say? Thinking through it, even having one wolf lynched would help extend the game duration for the wolves.

 

[WildZoo]

But this is REVERSE WW, so doesn't that make it exactly the kind of thing a wolf would say? Thinking through it, even having one wolf lynched would help extend the game duration for the wolves.

No dude, it's the kind of thing that a wolf doesn't think to say in any game because it makes it look like they don't care about the outcome of a lynch. Not a look a wolf wants to portray.