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For what it's worth, I don't think your original flagged post made it clear that you made a "quote with sarcasm how silly some people are on youtube." I mean, you pretty much just quoted it directly. Someone could easily read that and think that you were copying it because you agreed with it.

So from that viewpoint, yes, your post was offensive. Also, from the messages you posted to Caesar, I don't think you really explained yourself beyond calling him "ridiculous" and telling him to "bugger off."

I don't really know what you're fighting for here. You posted something that could be construed as offensive, you got mildly reprimanded for it, and now you're screaming for a "fair trial" ? What does that even mean on an internet forum?

Honestly, your best bet was just to talk this through with Caesar and the mods over PM.
 
I don't even know what's going on anymore. Yet here I am, still reading.
 
Bannie, wow. Chill out. This is completely uncalled for and hopefully it will result to you finally, actually being banned.

Do you really not see why that phrase would get you a warning? That's not you sticking up for gay people or saying anything about rights. That's you using an incredibly ignorant and rude phrase.

And this thread.. just... wow.
 
Just to clarify what one of the posters above said.

No, I am a firm believer that my infarction was uncalled for. Believing that I view homosexuality in a negative light is a huge inference to make.

However, what I am asking for is not that.
I am asking for more communication prior to an infarction, and I am asking for in fact, everybody on SDN to not jump to conclusions, and attack each other because of that.
 
So ridiculous that there are 23 people viewing this at 2:40 in the morning... hahahaha. love it.
 
bannie22 said:
Just to clarify what one of the posters above said.

No, I am a firm believer that my infarction was uncalled for. Believing that I view homosexuality in a negative light is a huge inference to make.

However, what I am asking for is not that.
I am asking for more communication prior to an infarction, and I am asking for in fact, everybody on SDN to not jump to conclusions, and attack each other because of that.
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a) no inference was made. You said an ignorant and insulting comment. the end.

b) what you got WAS a warning. You weren't banned, or even put on probation. And he explicitly told you why. What more do you want? A warning that you're going to get a warning?
 
Sammich117 said:
So ridiculous that there are 23 people viewing this at 2:40 in the morning... hahahaha. love it.
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i WAS about to go to sleep, but this is so entertaining I feel like sacrificing that precious commodity to watch this lol
 
Sammich117 said:
Bannie, wow. Chill out. This is completely uncalled for and hopefully it will result to you finally, actually being banned.

Do you really not see why that phrase would get you a warning? That's not you sticking up for gay people or saying anything about rights. That's you using an incredibly ignorant and rude phrase.

And this thread.. just... wow.
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I did not use it.
ColgateXX used it...

The thread read, "colgate said gay like aids"


Many people quote each other on SDN all the time too.


What I am saying is for all of us here to stop jumping to conclusions. (Like I said earlier)
To take the effort to understand one another, to give everyone a fair opportunity.
 
bannie22 said:
Just to clarify what one of the posters above said.

No, I am a firm believer that my infarction was uncalled for. Believing that I view homosexuality in a negative light is a huge inference to make.

However, what I am asking for is not that.
I am asking for more communication prior to an infarction, and I am asking for in fact, everybody on SDN to not jump to conclusions, and attack each other because of that.
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I think this is the "B" in D.A.B.D.A.
 
bannie22 said:
Just to clarify what one of the posters above said.

No, I am a firm believer that my infarction was uncalled for. Believing that I view homosexuality in a negative light is a huge inference to make.

However, what I am asking for is not that.
I am asking for more communication prior to an infarction, and I am asking for in fact, everybody on SDN to not jump to conclusions, and attack each other because of that.
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Hm, never mind my previous post, Bannie. That was a true pre-med typo.
 
Sammich117 said:
a) no inference was made. You said an ignorant and insulting comment. the end.

b) what you got WAS a warning. You weren't banned, or even put on probation. And he explicitly told you why. What more do you want? A warning that you're going to get a warning?
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a) Once again, I did not. You are inferring YET again. It is just like inferring, oh you have long hair, so you must be a punk.

b) Yes I did, however it was uncalled for. better understanding, better communication is what I am asking for. Yet again, he did not tell me why, he came in and said, "you should know!" That is inappropriate in itself for someone in a position of power.

Just the notion of someone jumping to conclusions, and suggesting that I advocated anyone's statement is something I believe has to change.
 
bannie22 said:
I did not use it.
ColgateXX used it...

The thread read, "colgate said gay like aids"
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And your argument is that you were quoting it "sarcastically."

All I'm trying to say is that there is nothing in your post that indicates you were mocking that post or pointing out how ridiculous it was or using it sarcastically. All you did was copy and paste it directly. When viewed in isolation (which is presumably what mods see when they see a reported post), it looks extremely offensive.
 
mmmcdowe said:
Infractions are basically the same thing as a PM warning you to chill, they don't even stay open on your record or anything. It isn't like you got put on hold or banned.
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Its not about the severity of the punishment. It is about how the punishment was laid out.

About how misunderstandings can lead to even more misunderstandings.

And how we can all improve on SDN.
 
bannie22 said:
a) Once again, I did not. You are inferring YET again. It is just like inferring, oh you have long hair, so you must be a punk.

b) Yes I did, however it was uncalled for. better understanding, better communication is what I am asking for. Yet again, he did not tell me why, he came in and said, "you should know!" That is inappropriate in itself for someone in a position of power.

Just the notion of someone jumping to conclusions, and suggesting that I advocated anyone's statement is something I believe has to change.
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Actually, I think a better analogy would be, oh you have long hair, so your hair must be long.
 
bannie22 said:
a) Once again, I did not. You are inferring YET again. It is just like inferring, oh you have long hair, so you must be a punk.

b) Yes I did, however it was uncalled for. better understanding, better communication is what I am asking for. Yet again, he did not tell me why, he came in and said, "you should know!" That is inappropriate in itself for someone in a position of power.

Just the notion of someone jumping to conclusions, and suggesting that I advocated anyone's statement is something I believe has to change.
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bannie *hugs* Dude, LET IT GO. Who cares?
 
mmmcdowe said:
Infractions are basically the same thing as a PM warning you to chill, they don't even stay open on your record or anything. It isn't like you got put on hold or banned.
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bobsmith said:
And your argument is that you were quoting it "sarcastically."

All I'm trying to say is that there is nothing in your post that indicates you were mocking that post or pointing out how ridiculous it was or using it sarcastically. All you did was copy and paste it directly. When viewed in isolation (which is presumably what mods see when they see a reported post), it looks extremely offensive.
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Yep. I totally agree.

Thats why when I quoted it, it reads exactly

Colgate said gay like aids.


What does that have to do with my notion of gay, aids or negativity towards gays or the video or anything of that sort?
 
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WTF??
 
You are in an internet forum. To be frank, I'm surprised this is the first warning you've gotten. You're out of line all the time. And this is your reaction to it? This is childish and insane. I am not saying you hate gay people. I am saying that, whatever the context, you had every right to be warned for putting that in a post. And to have a tantrum because you got a slap on the wrist makes is sad to me.
 
thamsenman said:
bannie *hugs* Dude, LET IT GO. Who cares?
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I really want Caesar to read this =)

And its gone 😛

I expect very much a ban anyway since it is the law.

But hopefully the mods are taking their time because they are reconsidering how action is undertaken, especially in this specific situation!
 
Sammich117 said:
You are in an internet forum. To be frank, I'm surprised this is the first warning you've gotten. You're out of line all the time. And this is your reaction to it? This is childish and insane. I am not saying you hate gay people. I am saying that, whatever the context, you had every right to be warned for putting that in a post. And to have a tantrum because you got a slap on the wrist makes is sad to me.
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This is the 4th warning in 2300 posts.
That is 1 warning per 800 points.

I am not having a tantrum my friend.
Just like what I mentioned, DONT JUMP TO CONCLUSIONS.

It doesnt help anything!

If everybody said, oh you are being mean, oh you are discriminating URMs and got into a fight, it doesnt help things does it?

Discuss, but dont personalize it.
 
i find it even funnier that ksmi is posting in the 2014 thread and totally ignoring this thread, lol
 
This is what happens when the kindergarten teacher leaves the classroom for 2 hrs: **** gets real.
 
bannie22 said:
This is the 4th warning in 2300 posts.
That is 1 warning per 800 points.

I am not having a tantrum my friend.
Just like what I mentioned, DONT JUMP TO CONCLUSIONS.

It doesnt help anything!

If everybody said, oh you are being mean, oh you are discriminating URMs and got into a fight, it doesnt help things does it?

Discuss, but dont personalize it.
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what conclusions do you think people are jumping to??

you say offensive things, therefore you say offensive things. yeah, we're way off the deep end there.
 
IndianVercetti said:
i find it even funnier that ksmi is posting in the 2014 thread and totally ignoring this thread, lol
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As this thread goes on and on, you notice more and more that this is not a thread about calling someone out and fighting about it.

Its about raising issues that I am concerned about.

And in all fairness, Caesar should have the honour of last post and executing whatever punishment he deems fit.
 
Sammich117 said:
what conclusions do you think people are jumping to??

you say offensive things, therefore you say offensive things. yeah, we're way off the deep end there.
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Which ones?
You said that quoting colgate was offensive.
But we have already disproven that in the previous analogy.


Like I said, is stuff like this positive to a discussion?
 
bannie22 said:
Yep. I totally agree.

Thats why when I quoted it, it reads exactly

Colgate said gay like aids.


What does that have to do with my notion of gay, aids or negativity towards gays or the video or anything of that sort?
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Because when you quote something directly without making a comment on it, it sounds like you agree with it.

Honestly, if you felt you were misunderstood, you should have made that clear in your comments to Caesar instead of jumping down his throat and yelling at him through a PM.

Would it really have been so hard to have a PM conversation like this:

Caesar: here's an infraction
bannie: wait, what did i do?
Caesar: you posted this inappropriate statement
bannie: but i was just quoting someone on youtube! i don't actually believe that!
Caesar: as written, it is offensive. you could make it more clear next time. instead, say: "i can't believe this ridiculously offensive youtube comment!" or even better, don't copy offensive statements on to our forum!
 
bobsmith said:
Because when you quote something directly without making a comment on it, it sounds like you agree with it.

Honestly, if you felt you were misunderstood, you should have made that clear in your comments to Caesar instead of jumping down his throat and yelling at him through a PM.

Would it really have been so hard to have a PM conversation like this:

Caesar: here's an infraction
bannie: wait, what did i do?
Caesar: you posted this inappropriate statement
bannie: but i was just quoting someone on youtube! i don't actually believe that!
Caesar: as written, it is offensive. you could make it more clear next time. instead, say: "i can't believe this ridiculously offensive youtube comment!" or even better, don't copy offensive statements on to our forum!
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He said, heres an infarction, you should know why.

That is in unneeded. And I very much contained myself, with as much arrogance as he had with "you should know why, your posts are inappropriate" (all this without hard evidence) Ridiculous, is a really polite word on SDN if thread reading is a hobby 😉

And what I want to say is this, that we should have more transparency, and we should not be given a :caution: before the deal is made clear.

A caution is only given when an offence is finalized.
If that is not the case, then save it till it is.
 
bannie22 said:
He said, heres an infarction, you should know why.

That is in unneeded.

And what I want to say is this, that we should have more transparency, and we should not be given a :caution: before the deal is made clear.

A caution is only given when an offence is finalized.
If that is not the case, then save it till it is.
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No. The point of the warning is to make it clear to you.

Then probation and holds happen.

You're asking for a pre-warning which is absurd.
 
bannie22 said:
He said, heres an infarction, you should know why.

That is in unneeded.

And what I want to say is this, that we should have more transparency, and we should not be given a :caution: before the deal is made clear.

A caution is only given when an offence is finalized.
If that is not the case, then save it till it is.
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IT'S INFRACTION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! jesus

EDIT: carry on
 
bannie22 said:
He said, heres an infarction, you should know why.

That is in unneeded.

And what I want to say is this, that we should have more transparency, and we should not be given a :caution: before the deal is made clear.

A caution is only given when an offence is finalized.
If that is not the case, then save it till it is.
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so you want a warning before a warning? what's to keep you from saying that the pre-warning is unjustified?

at some point, a mod has to tell you that they found something you posted offensive.
 
Sammich117 said:
No. The point of the warning is to make it clear to you.

Then probation and holds happen.

You're asking for a pre-warning which is absurd.
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:caution: is a yellow card, a yellow card is a serious foul.
I'm asking for mod to say, hey you said this, can you take it back? or hey, I dont think this is appropriate, why did you say something like that?

Instead of jumping and flashing cards and warnings, basically saying im guilty, before i have the chance to explain my innocence.

Isnt that something simple and easy that can be done?
 
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