RVU-COM Discussion thread 2008-2009

[JE1986]

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I hope you read for comprehension better in school than you do on these boards. Since you are confused- being from CO we are interested in the school, which is why I'm researching it (and has been stated in this very thread). Anyway, I'm not going to argue with you, I hate to say this, but I honestly feel you are beneath me.

As a student attending RVU next year I honestly hope that you do not come to the school. I understand that you are trying to make an informed decision and I really respect that; HOWEVER, calling people beneath you is uncalled for, rude, and just plain mean. Maybe you are a nice person that is just having a bad day, is frustrated, or whatever. But many of your posts have been insulting to people and I do not like to surround myself with people who treat others that way. Personally, I believe it is attitudes like this and people like you that give pre-meds and doctors a bad name.

 

[The Saxon]

Yea, but he didn't call you names or try to insult you by saying he's smart or better than you. He said don't list to "Bamish and the others" not don't listen to that ignorant pre-med Bamish or did I miss something?? By all means correct me if I missed something. That was the uncool part for which I was referring to. I understand you wanted to defend yourself regarding his post for calling you out, but the name calling and bashing his intelligence isn't going to solve anything.

Secondly, from what you and others say about RVU via the conversation with the Medical Examiners contradicts what is said on the website about RVU which doesn't suggest or elude to any suspicions of any kind. It doesn't seem fesible that CO would deny liscense to RVU graduates when they will grant them accreditation (of course this is assume that they continue with successful progression). I could be wrong and naive to the situation, but it does sound like people are blowing this up into a bigger balloon than what it really is. Now I'm only referring to the licensing issue and haven't had time to really research what other issues they may in fact have. If you don't care to share that's fine, I'm sure it will come up sooner rather than later if its a biggie.

100% agreed. 👍 Please see my post above prior to your post(s). The fact that everyone is mistakenly contorting into something insidious is the fact that RVUCOM is provisionally accredited much like many other new osteopathic and allo medical schools. What is extrapolated from that typical designation is nothing but conjecture.

 

[Bamish]

As a student attending RVU next year I honestly hope that you do not come to the school. I understand that you are trying to make an informed decision and I really respect that; HOWEVER, calling people beneath you is uncalled for, rude, and just plain mean. Maybe you are a nice person that is just having a bad day, is frustrated, or whatever. But many of your posts have been insulting to people and I do not like to surround myself with people who treat others that way. Personally, I believe it is attitudes like this and people like you that give pre-meds and doctors a bad name.

I was thinking the same thing when I was referred to as an ignorant pre-med. I was thinking how uncalled for, so I responded. And actually no, many of my posts have not been insulting to people. I have insulted one person, the person who first insulted me. And perhaps my response was uncalled for, but so was the original post to which I was replying.

 

[The Saxon]

Kindly take a bow and exit already.

Bamish - As an SDN member for almost 5 years (with a newly created account) I'd kindly request/vote that you leave this thread and refrain from further personal attacks. I'm sure a mod will handle this situation eventually as SCPOD has already attempted. As a matter of fact, the users who continue to propagate misinformation and unfounded opinion (Instate Waiter, Bioteach, and others) have been doing so simply to incite a response for more than 2 years and never listen to reason or facts surrounding RVU. This is an old debate founded in emotion by a select few with no real relevance any longer. It's unfortunate that they (old users resurrecting failed arguments) are able to manipulate "newer" SDN users such as you and DoctorB with old misinformation that's already been laid to rest and disproved in subsequent threads; you all are "thanking" them for old emotional perspectives with no citation (see the post history of the users I specifically mention here) designed simply to create a current controversy. The concerns have already been addressed ad nauseum by RVU medical students, physicians, and SDN moderators familiar with RVUCOM. IMHO - you're overly defensive and thus overreactive in your attacks on other users and the medical school in this thread. Please give it a rest and good luck in your upcoming decisions.

 

[JE1986]

I was thinking the same thing when I was referred to as an ignorant pre-med. I was thinking how uncalled for, so I responded.

Honestly, being called an "ignorant pre-med" and saying someone is beneath you is not the same thing. I agree that it probably wasn't the most appropriate thing to say, but you took it to a whole new level. If you found i it uncalled for you should have called the poster who said that about you rude and taken the high road. Besides, it's an internet site for crying out loud. It's not like they were calling you out in front of a crowd of people in front of a bar.
And I would totally admit to being an ignorant pre-med. I don't think any of us in medical school know 90% of what we think we know.

 

[Bamish]

Honestly, being called an "ignorant pre-med" and saying someone is beneath you is not the same thing. I agree that it probably wasn't the most appropriate thing to say, but you took it to a whole new level. If you found i it uncalled for you should have called the poster who said that about you rude and taken the high road. Besides, it's an internet site for crying out loud. It's not like they were calling you out in front of a crowd of people in front of a bar.
And I would totally admit to being an ignorant pre-med. I don't think any of us in medical school know 90% of what we think we know.

Agreed. I suppose that could be a "whole new level". I actually just meant that I wasn't going to argue with that person anymore. It simply wasn't worth my time. And in all fairness to me, I did ask for an apology before I made that comment, but it was never offered. Regardless though, I'm done with this. People don't like to look at the comment I made saying that I felt the whole licensing thing would be resolved. They just want to look at it as me bashing the school. I actually only posted the license thing in response to someone saying I should do research on the school, and only as an example that I was doing research. I think others actually blew this out of proportion, but I'm done with it. It was never my intention to argue about a school. Others turned it into an argument, but like I said I'm finished with it.

 

[The Saxon]

Agreed. I suppose that could be a "whole new level". I actually just meant that I wasn't going to argue with that person anymore. It simply wasn't worth my time. And in all fairness to me, I did ask for an apology before I made that comment, but it was never offered. Regardless though, I'm done with this. People don't like to look at the comment I made saying that I felt the whole licensing thing would be resolved. They just want to look at it as me bashing the school. I actually only posted the license thing in response to someone saying I should do research on the school, and only as an example that I was doing research. I think others actually blew this out of proportion, but I'm done with it. It was never my intention to argue about a school. Others turned it into an argument, but like I said I'm finished with it.

 

[Bamish]

Actually, I was going to edit my post, but you replied to it. If you look at any of my posts, I have been nothing but helpful and supportive to people. It was only after I was insulted that I responded in the same manner. So perhaps you should also be asking the person with the initial insults, the one who I believe started this whole thing to refrain as well? I guess it's easier to just make me out to be the bad guy though.

And FWIW, I was done debating this before you decided to make yourself a new account, so save the effort next time..if you don't have a pair big enough to make a comment to me with your main account, I put no value in your opinions.

And on that, I'm out of this particular part of the thread. 🙂

 

[Dissected]

It's unfortunate that they (old users resurrecting failed arguments) are able to manipulate "newer" SDN users such as you and DoctorB with old misinformation that's already been laid to rest and disproved in subsequent threads

For the record my withdrawal was not related to things discussed in this forum although it may have appeared that way. I just didn't want to fly out to another interview after being accepted to my top choice schools. 👍

 

[e p i c]

This thread is like The Hills.

 

[Airlife91]

This thread is like The Hills.

Hah. Spot on.

 

[Bamish]

Hah. Spot on.

Bah! I don't get the reference, I've not seen the show. 🙁

 

[stonewall22]

moderators:

please ban bamish from this thread. He/she is getting to insulting and unprofessional.

Bamish is posting false information about RVU and should not be allowed to continue postings.

Message to all: hes statements are false. He is someone who is just against for-profit status which has nothing to do with anything.

there are many posts by other who have disproved his messages but yet he continues to post.

AGAIN TO ALL POTENTIAL STUDENTS....DO NOT LISTEN TO HIM....COME SEE AND RESEARCH THE SCHOOL ON YOUR OWN AND YOU WILL SEE THAT THIS SCHOOL IS NO DIFFERENT THAN ANY OTHERS.

I must go now to a meeting with the PRESIDENT OF THE COLORADO SOCIETY OF MEDICINE, who represents both MDs and DOs across the state. WHO IS GIVING A PRESENTATION SAYING HOW HAPPY THE STATE OF COLORADO IS TO HAVE ANOTHER MEDICAL SCHOOL.

THERE ARE SOO MANY EVENTS AND IMPORTANT PEOPLE THAT COME AND GIVE SPEECHES AND ARE SOO HAPPY ABOUT THE SCHOOL, BUT I DONT FEEL ITS NECESSARY TO POST THEM ALL SO THAT WE CAN DISPROVE PEOPLE LIKE BAMISH.

HAVE A GREAT DAY EVERYONE!

With all due respect (and I'll state upfront, RVU is the best school I've interviewed at and consider myself privileged to have been accepted), Bamish is not blowing smoke. There is something up with the licensing board (which I admit is probably because it's new). Bamish has expressed interest (a lot) in the school, but has seen many of the negatives too. I don't actually think he has a problem with for-profit, as, I believe, most do not.

I do recommend that anyone who is researching the school seek out information from both RVU and outside sources. The thought that RVU will just lie to you is a bit appaling. I would also suggest that such research involve a trip to RVU (I had some concerns, still do, but the interview quashed most of them).

So, no, I don't have a problem with Bamish, the people I have a problem with on this thread are medical school students NOT at RVU, who very likely know less about RVU than pre-meds considering attending there. Why would a student at a different school waste time researching a different school? Is there really enough time to waste cycles basing another school?

One comment I would like to respond to is the suggestion that having a lot of hospitals is a sign of problems to come. Excuse me? CCOM, MSU, OUSOM, LECOM...those are a few schools that come to mind which have MORE (or at least as many, I think MSUCOM only has 17). Of course, these are terrible schools because of that, right?

 

[stonewall22]

Actually, I've posted nothing that's false. Anyone can call the state board and be told exactly what I was. And I've not posted anything else about the school. So, I'm not sure how your comments have any validity. And, I'm not against any school, I simply want to make sure I'm making the best choice I can regarding any school I might attend. I'm not sure why you struggle with this. Are you that insecure about your own school, yourself? Just because someone questions the school doesn't make them the horrible thing that you've made them to be in your mind. Get over it, the school does have concerns that people have every right to research, just because that research might not lead to an answer you like doesn't make it meaningless. Grow up.

Had you taken any time to read posts instead of just whining you would realize that I have been supportive of the school. My wife is very excited about it, and I am going to research it, just as I'll research LECOM more now that she is accepted to it. So, stop your shouting, crying, and pity party- just because someone questions a school doesn't mean they are against a school, it just means they are trying to make an informed decision. Now, as I stated previously, I'm done speaking with you, I simply don't find you worth it. So please, offer me the same courtesy.

Now, speaking of insulting...yes you were. You called (directed at me) me an ignorant pre-med. You disagree with my post about the board (even though I only posted what I was told by the board) which is fine. All you had to do is recommend that others do their own research, and leave out the whole ignorant pre-med comment. So, if you are calling for bans for being insulting, since you started it I suppose you should be the first banned.

Hey Bamish, you must understand why they're sensitive. Read the thread in the osteopathic forum. It's been suggested they're second class students who could only get into a degree-mill (false), they don't care about people, only money (false), the facilities aren't up to par (uh...false). I would be defensive too.

 

[Bamish]

With all due respect (and I'll state upfront, RVU is the best school I've interviewed at and consider myself privileged to have been accepted), Bamish is not blowing smoke. There is something up with the licensing board (which I admit is probably because it's new). Bamish has expressed interest (a lot) in the school, but has seen many of the negatives too. I don't actually think he has a problem with for-profit, as, I believe, most do not.

I do recommend that anyone who is researching the school seek out information from both RVU and outside sources. The thought that RVU will just lie to you is a bit appaling. I would also suggest that such research involve a trip to RVU (I had some concerns, still do, but the interview quashed most of them).

So, no, I don't have a problem with Bamish, the people I have a problem with on this thread are medical school students NOT at RVU, who very likely know less about RVU than pre-meds considering attending there. Why would a student at a different school waste time researching a different school? Is there really enough time to waste cycles basing another school?

One comment I would like to respond to is the suggestion that having a lot of hospitals is a sign of problems to come. Excuse me? CCOM, MSU, OUSOM, LECOM...those are a few schools that come to mind which have MORE (or at least as many, I think MSUCOM only has 17). Of course, these are terrible schools because of that, right?

Thank you for posting this. I'm glad at least one person could read my posts for what they were. And you are right, I have no problems with the schools status, I simply want to research it and make sure I make the best decision I can after I've done that research (just as I am now starting with LECOM). I've not tried to sway anyone or trash talk the school. As a matter of fact the only thing I've said that could even be taken to be negative about the school is the licensing issue, to which I also stated I felt they would get it resolved.

Anyway, thanks again-your comments are appreciated! 🙂

 

[Bamish]

Hey Bamish, you must understand why they're sensitive. Read the thread in the osteopathic forum. It's been suggested they're second class students who could only get into a degree-mill (false), they don't care about people, only money (false), the facilities aren't up to par (uh...false). I would be defensive too.

Well perhaps they should focus their anger on someone other than me. I've never referred to the school or it's students as second class. I've been supportive of the school and even stated how excited we were about the school.

Of course if I researched a school and made an informed decision to go there, I wouldn't be defensive about it. I would be happy with my choice and be satisfied knowing that I made the right choice. I wouldn't need to call people "ignorant pre-meds" simply because they are trying to make a life changing decision, and make it well. I guess I won't care what people say about a school I attend if I feel confident that I made the right choice by attending that school.

And thanks for the insight about the other thread. I guess it could help make more sense why some of the people are acting the way are. I just know I wouldn't act the same way if I were attending the school. First, I wouldn't waste the time because I would be busy in medical school, but secondly, I would feel confident that I made the right choice in my education and wouldn't feel the need to defend it to anyone.

But again, I appreciate your comments on the matter. I very much appreciate them. 🙂

Edit--yeah, the facilities were just top notch according to my wife. Actually she was very impressed with the school and it is her first choice--which is why I'm finding out all I can about it. 🙂

All the best, Bamish 🙂

 

[PunkmedGirl]

As far as the licensing issue, again...had you read my post about it you would also see that I said that I'm sure it will be resolved. All I was doing was replying to someone who said I should do my own research- I was using it as an example to show that I had been doing research.

And yes, you did miss something, the post was directed at me as I was named and I was the only pre-med voicing concerns in this thread. The other people that you think he could have been referring to are both medical students, not pre-meds. So, he was referring to me.

Again, had he left out the whole ignorant pre-med comment I think things would have been much better. He is telling people to do their own research, which I have done, then insults people who do so. All he had to do is say something like "Bamish may be doing some research, but you may want to research it yourself, things that he finds concerning you might not". This would have worked much better and not instigated problems, but I think that is exactly what he was trying to do--start problems. If you read some of my other posts, I have been nothing but supportive and helpful on these boards. I only replied to being insulted and I replied in the same fashion, I was just better at it.

I did read your post and maybe I should have clarified that I wasn't only speaking to you but others as well. I know that you said it should be resolved but there are others whose opinions don't reflect your statement. I have read your posts and I have never stated that you have been anything other than a concern applicant. I only stated that I felt that your words were a little harsh towards the medical student, granted it warranted a defense comment from you but not the way you put it or as you say "better at it". Well anyhow its squashed, I have nothing against you or anyone else its just a matter of perception and opinions that got heated.

 

[Bamish]

I did read your post and maybe I should have clarified that I wasn't only speaking to you but others as well. I know that you said it should be resolved but there are others whose opinions don't reflect your statement. I have read your posts and I have never stated that you have been anything other than a concern applicant. I only stated that I felt that your words were a little harsh towards the medical student, granted it warranted a defense comment from you but not the way you put it or as you say "better at it". Well anyhow its squashed, I have nothing against you or anyone else its just a matter of perception and opinions that got heated.

No worries. And I appreciate that you took the time to clarify your thoughts. And yes, when I'm insulted I insult back, and sometimes it can get ugly. I can only recommend that people don't insult me. 😉

Seriously, thanks for the clarification, it's appreciated! 🙂

 

[PunkmedGirl]

No worries. And I appreciate that you took the time to clarify your thoughts. And yes, when I'm insulted I insult back, and sometimes it can get ugly. I can only recommend that people don't insult me. 😉

Seriously, thanks for the clarification, it's appreciated! 🙂

No problem.🙂

 

[boone95]

One comment I would like to respond to is the suggestion that having a lot of hospitals is a sign of problems to come. Excuse me? CCOM, MSU, OUSOM, LECOM...those are a few schools that come to mind which have MORE (or at least as many, I think MSUCOM only has 17). Of course, these are terrible schools because of that, right?

Yeah, thanks for bringing that up.

Also, Colorado has 2 major networks of hospitals. Since both of them wanted to be affiliated with RVU, we get to spend time in all of their hospitals... which is why we have so many different sites. Not to mention other hospitals wanted students as well.

Good luck to those of you coming to interview in the next couple weeks, I know there's a lot of you!

 

[Es Pontas]

When I was at my interview Dr. Martin said that the clinical rotations were done by lottery. If one lands in Grand Junction or Pueblo, does this limit the amount of specialty exposure one receives (which may limit residencies)? Or in other words, is surgery or things like that more difficult to get into if you end up in smaller locations (as opposed to Denver or Colorado Springs)?

Thanks so much.

 

[boone95]

Good question! A few things about that.
1. If you draw a location you don't want, you can trade someone else... so you're not necessarily 'locked' in to that location.
2. Pueblo is about 100,000 people and Grand Junction is around 50,000... so you'll have just above every kind of specialist around that you'll want to see and be exposed to.
3. They did incorporate some elective time into the 4th year, and they have decided to let us go anywhere. So you can go anywhere in the world to be with any specialist you want if you set it up. The possibilities are endless there.

There are a lot of a required rotations that must be completed too, so there will be a limited amount of time with which you can be with a specialist. So to answer your question... no, I don't think any of our 4 locations will make things harder on you when residency match comes around. Hope this helps-

 

[Instatewaiter]

When I was at my interview Dr. Martin said that the clinical rotations were done by lottery. If one lands in Grand Junction or Pueblo, does this limit the amount of specialty exposure one receives (which may limit residencies)? Or in other words, is surgery or things like that more difficult to get into if you end up in smaller locations (as opposed to Denver or Colorado Springs)?

Thanks so much.

Clinical rotations at most schools are done in a similar manner. There are a few things that you can do:

1) instead of doing one of the easier rotations like Family medicine, neuro, psych you do a rotation/AI in the specialty you want. You see this especially in early match fields and really competitive fields. Doing it 3rd year also gives you the option to do AIs in 4th year at other institutions which also helps with the match. You then do the rotation you put off sometime in 4th year.

2) You do it early in 4th year.

Of course you may be putting the cart before the horse. Get in, get through the first 2 years and see how you do on the boards.

 

[Es Pontas]

Do you guys have enough time to utilize the season's ski pass at the local resorts?

 

[e p i c]

Do you guys have enough time to utilize the season's ski pass at the local resorts?

Wait. Now I'm confused. I thought RVU is a ski resort.

 

[Ranger9879]

i don't get it

 

[Bamish]

i don't get it

Ditto. 🙁 But in answer to the question. There really aren't any "local" ski resorts anywhere near RVU. RVU is on the SE side of Denver (Parker), which really isn't close to any ski areas at all.

 

[Es Pontas]

lol I just thought everyone was making fun of the school. I know its not actually "local" but I was referring to the season's pass to Breck, Keystone, etc. When I was on my interview a handful of students said they were going to buy the pass (cuz it was only around $500) and I was just wondering if they actually had time to go.

 

[Airlife91]

I'm still planning on buying one next year when I go to RVU. I live in Denver so I will be staying here during schools breaks.

They also have cheaper pass options if you don't think you'll go as much:
-4 pack tickets $90-150, available for almost all resorts
-Copper/Winter park - 2 for 1 season passes when you sign up for a wells fargo account
-Breck/Keyston/A-Basin ticket - $390. Add $50 for 10 days at vail/beaver creek

 

[boone95]

Yeah, we have time. If traffic is minimal and there isn't a blizzard, you're about 2 hours away... not bad for some of the best skiing in the country. 3 feet of powder a couple days ago!

Also, lecture isn't required.... so it's possible to go during the week when there aren't labs. Study in the car on the drive, come home, and watch the lectures online.

But a lot of people do go to the mountains on weekends. Might as well!

 

[SemperDO]

hi everyone!

i just got the interview invite and i was wondering if there was any helpful advice out there...like the best places to stay, any interview feedback, and if i should be concerned about the elevation (im from a very "sea-level" Miami 😛)...im so nervous, yet so excited about RVU...thanks!

 

[stonewall22]

hi everyone!

i just got the interview invite and i was wondering if there was any helpful advice out there...like the best places to stay, any interview feedback, and if i should be concerned about the elevation (im from a very "sea-level" Miami 😛)...im so nervous, yet so excited about RVU...thanks!

Sea-level thing is overrated, no concerns. However, it might be colder, a lot colder, than you're use to.

Interview advice: it's not an interview, it's a "get-to-know-you" so I recommend taking the opportunity to get to know them. Good luck!

 

[OLYWA]

Hey all...I hate to break the trend of recent threads about skiing and clinical sites...but here goes anyways.

I interviewed and was waitlisted at RVU last year...unfortunately didn't get picked up and so here we go again.

I really liked it there...and am hoping to get an interview again this year. Problem is...I've been placed on the dreaded "pre-interview" hold list. I'm hoping that come Dec. 15th some more seats will open up, and potentially open up my chances at getting another interview.

As a working non-trad it's fairly difficult to have done any research over my last year...although I've continued to spend the time working in primary patient care as a paramedic. I understand how ADCOMs like to see application improvements made via research and/or taking more classes...but an unfortunate simple truth for many non-trads living in rural areas is that these aren't things that we always have a chance to do.

Anyone have any tips as to how to move myself off of the 'pre-interview' list to the 'let's interview him' list? A letter of intent comes to mind...any other ideas?

OlyWa

 

[stonewall22]

Hey all...I hate to break the trend of recent threads about skiing and clinical sites...but here goes anyways.

I interviewed and was waitlisted at RVU last year...unfortunately didn't get picked up and so here we go again.

I really liked it there...and am hoping to get an interview again this year. Problem is...I've been placed on the dreaded "pre-interview" hold list. I'm hoping that come Dec. 15th some more seats will open up, and potentially open up my chances at getting another interview.

As a working non-trad it's fairly difficult to have done any research over my last year...although I've continued to spend the time working in primary patient care as a paramedic. I understand how ADCOMs like to see application improvements made via research and/or taking more classes...but an unfortunate simple truth for many non-trads living in rural areas is that these aren't things that we always have a chance to do.

Anyone have any tips as to how to move myself off of the 'pre-interview' list to the 'let's interview him' list? A letter of intent comes to mind...any other ideas?

OlyWa

Prayer, LOTS and LOTS of prayer...I'm not sure there's anything you can actually do. Have someone write another letter of recommendation?

 

[Dissected]

Anyone have any tips as to how to move myself off of the 'pre-interview' list to the 'let's interview him' list? A letter of intent comes to mind...any other ideas?

OlyWa

If things don't work out this year you need to retake the MCAT. Study your butt off and you can do better. an improvement in this arena will show schools that you have the drive to do what it takes to go all the way..

my 2 cents. take it or leave it 😳

 

[westphi]

Yeah, we have time. If traffic is minimal and there isn't a blizzard, you're about 2 hours away... not bad for some of the best skiing in the country. 3 feet of powder a couple days ago!

Also, lecture isn't required.... so it's possible to go during the week when there aren't labs. Study in the car on the drive, come home, and watch the lectures online.

But a lot of people do go to the mountains on weekends. Might as well!

If I get into to RVU I don't plan on skiing much (I'm from Denver and have skied my whole life), but for those dying to get up to the mountains during school--the ski-train from downtown goes to Winter Park. It's a good way to get to the slopes and not have to drive (you can study all the way there!). Cheers!

PS I have my interview this Wed! Wish me luck--I hope to become apart of the RVU family 🙂

 

[doctor804]

Ahhh I just sent my secondaries to RVU... do I have a shot?

undergrade gpa - 2.75

graduated gpa - 3.9

mcat - 25

your thoughts would be much appreciated...

 

[boone95]

Ahhh I just sent my secondaries to RVU... do I have a shot?

I almost never say anyone is for sure in or out... I've seen an MCAT of 23 get in and I've seen a 35 not get it. Clinical experiences are a big deal... as are some other extracurricular things, so even thought your grades were low, you can still have a chance. Your MCAT isn't bad...

It's getting a kind of late in the application cycle, so if things don't work out this time, apply earlier next year. They have 160 slots... and they fill up quickly. I'm not sure how full it is now, but getting the ball going sooner will be advantageous.

Don't hesitate to contact the admissions office. They'll answer any questions for you, and it never hurts to show some interest.

Best of luck!

 

[libo1369]

First off let me say, Bamish understand that we have all been highly criticized for taking spots at RVU and if you can dig up all the old posts we had to repeatedly defend ourselves from verbal attacks so some of that response was due to that I am sure. I agree with the sentiments of many including yourself that the ignorant premed comment was uncalled for. Just as much as we hated being chastized for attending a for-profit I hated being discounted for being a premed. I have no doubt you are not ignorant but you are a bit egotistical which is not always a bad thing. I will say that it comes across in your writing and it rubs the people the wrong way. I also know that RVU faculty and staff (which make up adcoms) cruise these threads not commenting but they are reading.

As far as rotation sites I will say that I have heard from Dean Ronnie B. Martin that it will be part lottery but there will be a choice in it also. For example people that want to take rural routes will be able to express a preference for them. One reason for this is in Grand Junction there is a lot of ortho opportunities as it is the largest hsopital closest to Lake Powell, Moab and the I-70 corridor which can be a mess in the winter. Some people want to go to Colorado Springs cause they live there or Pueblo has some great family practice opportunities.

As for interviews two words: Relax and um Relax. It is very laid back and the ratio of interview to acceptance or the other way around is high. I tell the ones I see come through the words that were spoken to me at my interview. Make sure it is the right school for you. You all hopefully have a lot of interviews to go to and multiple acceptances to come so know tha while you are trying to impress the school make sure it impresses you also. Don't expect them to cater to your whims you can try to get that after orientation. Bamish if you are still reading good luck sorry about the hard feelings but telling people they don't have big enough ones is no way to impress anyone either. I like your well thought out process and your in depth analysis of things should definately be a bonus in your studies. Good luck everyone.

 

[Bamish]

First off let me say, Bamish understand that we have all been highly criticized for taking spots at RVU and if you can dig up all the old posts we had to repeatedly defend ourselves from verbal attacks so some of that response was due to that I am sure. I agree with the sentiments of many including yourself that the ignorant premed comment was uncalled for. Just as much as we hated being chastized for attending a for-profit I hated being discounted for being a premed. I have no doubt you are not ignorant but you are a bit egotistical which is not always a bad thing. I will say that it comes across in your writing and it rubs the people the wrong way. I also know that RVU faculty and staff (which make up adcoms) cruise these threads not commenting but they are reading.

As far as rotation sites I will say that I have heard from Dean Ronnie B. Martin that it will be part lottery but there will be a choice in it also. For example people that want to take rural routes will be able to express a preference for them. One reason for this is in Grand Junction there is a lot of ortho opportunities as it is the largest hsopital closest to Lake Powell, Moab and the I-70 corridor which can be a mess in the winter. Some people want to go to Colorado Springs cause they live there or Pueblo has some great family practice opportunities.

As for interviews two words: Relax and um Relax. It is very laid back and the ratio of interview to acceptance or the other way around is high. I tell the ones I see come through the words that were spoken to me at my interview. Make sure it is the right school for you. You all hopefully have a lot of interviews to go to and multiple acceptances to come so know tha while you are trying to impress the school make sure it impresses you also. Don't expect them to cater to your whims you can try to get that after orientation. Bamish if you are still reading good luck sorry about the hard feelings but telling people they don't have big enough ones is no way to impress anyone either. I like your well thought out process and your in depth analysis of things should definately be a bonus in your studies. Good luck everyone.

Oh shoot, I have no hard feelings towards anyone. My comment about the "big enough ones" wasn't meant as an insult to anyone, or to try and impress anyone. I'm just the type of person that if I have something to say, I'll say it, face to face, or in a forum if that's the case, and I appreciate the same in return. I mean come on, making up a new account...seems silly to me. But no worries, like I said, I didn't have hard feelings about it, I was just stating my outlook on making a new account to say something that could just be said....without the need for a new account. 🙂

And I'm sorry if you (any and all RVU students) have been criticized on these boards. I never criticized anyone for attending or wanting to attend RVU. I know my wife was very impressed with the school when she interviewed, which I'm sure I've mentioned in this thread. I actually wanted very badly to go with her on her interview day just so I could see the school, but it didn't quite work out. 🙁 Anyway, while I understand being defensive about the school from past criticism, I don't think the anger should have been directed towards me. But like I said, I have no hard feelings and I truly am sorry if you've (all) felt insulted from those that did criticize your decision.

As far as how I come across in my posts--well I'm not sure what to tell you. I don't intend to come off any certain way. And with the exception of when I was insulted, I think I've been very cordial in all of my posts.

And if any RVU faculty/staff read my posts and felt insulted or offended then I would imagine RVU wouldn't be the best school for me anyway. I would be hopeful though that they would appreciate the fact that someone is researching their school with vigor, to ensure it is the best fit for that person.

That aside though, it may be a moot point. I think my wife is leaning toward just accepting at LECOM. And as I've said before, I have no problem with any of the schools, I just want to make sure we pick the one that we will be happy with!

Anyway, I appreciate the "good luck" wish. Everyone can always use a little luck (as long as it's good luck) 😉.


🙂

 

[TonicQuinine]

Some poster said that RVU was going to open some 300+ residency spots in CO. Any truth to that?

 

[stonewall22]

Some poster said that RVU was going to open some 300+ residency spots in CO. Any truth to that?

Based on what Dean Smith said at our interviews, yes, there is truth to that.

 

[Airlife91]

just put down the deposit!

 

[stonewall22]

just put down the deposit!

I'd like to, it's coming down to the wire. My biggest problem...what if I can't get funding? The economy is terrible right now, and private student loan funds are drying up. So what happens if I put the money down, turn down my other acceptances, and then can't get money? I'll tell you, I'M SCREWED. I don't know what to do.

 

[Airlife91]

Yeah I had the exact same conern. There is definitely a degree of uncertainty about it. However, I also considered the fact that over 80% of their current students are financing the entire tuition, and if they couldn't find any funding for us, then they would have no class. Since their well being as a new medical school hinges on these first few classes, they can't afford to have studnets dropping out because of funding issues. Granted, its definitely going to cost more in higher interest rates, lack of federal subsidies, etc, but there will be funding somewhere. At least that is the hope.

 

[Dissected]

Yeah I had the exact same conern. There is definitely a degree of uncertainty about it. However, I also considered the fact that over 80% of their current students are financing the entire tuition, and if they couldn't find any funding for us, then they would have no class. Since their well being as a new medical school hinges on these first few classes, they can't afford to have studnets dropping out because of funding issues. Granted, its definitely going to cost more in higher interest rates, lack of federal subsidies, etc, but there will be funding somewhere. At least that is the hope.

😏 you are a brave soul...

 

[stonewall22]

Yeah I had the exact same conern. There is definitely a degree of uncertainty about it. However, I also considered the fact that over 80% of their current students are financing the entire tuition, and if they couldn't find any funding for us, then they would have no class. Since their well being as a new medical school hinges on these first few classes, they can't afford to have studnets dropping out because of funding issues. Granted, its definitely going to cost more in higher interest rates, lack of federal subsidies, etc, but there will be funding somewhere. At least that is the hope.

Yeah, I know, that's what logical me says too. They had several students last year that couldn't get funding. I haven't decided yet if I could handle the stress come each summer of wondering whether or not I'd be able to pay for the next year...tough choice, by far the most impressive school I've seen.

 

[boone95]

My biggest problem...what if I can't get funding?

Have you been in contact with admissions and/or the financial aid offices about your concern?

We had a financial aid talk a month ago and Ms. Leary was very confident that we would get our loans approved. They talk to the loan companies weekly and the companies have said there is nothing to worry about.

I depend on a private loan too, and I haven't had any reason for concern or worry yet. But definitely get a hold of the financial aid office and ask them anything about any scenario.

 

[SemperDO]

Hi Everyone!

I know this may sound like a silly question, but what is the weather like in Parker, CO during the month of January? I'm from Miami, and our winters remain in the high 80's and 90's, so I have no winter gear at all. Any suggestions on what I could wear and what I should buy for my trip to Colorado? Thanks!

 

[lainey234]

Well, it can be 20 or it can be 70. Colorado is wierd that way. In fact, it could be 20 one day and then 70 the next... Either way, plan for cold. Odds are it will be, especially since you are used to FL heat.

And don't count on the weather report being accurate, they do the best they can but the mountains screw with stuff so they are often wrong.

G'luck on your interview. It is a very relxed environment, so don't stress too much 🙂