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Actually, this is the discussion thread for the school, so what better place to discuss the school?
This thread is intended to be used by those who have a desire to attend the school to get general types of info and discuss interviews, etc. It is NOT a place for battling over the "profit" issue. There are already plenty of threads discussing that. Use those if you wish.
I don't like be the bad guy, buy anyone who keeps bringing this discussion up in this thread will be infracted. You guys know who you are. Stay out of the thread.
So, as the spouse of a potential student/current applicant at the school (and in turn a future applicant myself) I feel I'm voicing my concerns in exactly the place I should be- with others who may have researched it more and may be current students, current applicants, or future applicants.
And I'm not sure if your comment was directed towards me or not, but I really don't feel as though I was "battling" with anyone over the for profit issue, especially since it was not my intention to battle with anyone.
Really, you say this thread is for general types of information and interviews, which would seem to include it's for profit status. It is brought up at their interviews- in the same speech given about the financial aid system. So, should the financial aid of the school also not be discussed?
I'm sure there are other threads regarding the for profit status of the school. And I'm sure many of the people in those threads have no interest in the school, they are just voicing their concerns. Having a wife that has applied, being from Colorado, and being a possible future applicant, I would like to get the views of the current students, and potential applicants about the school...all aspects of the school, not just some. I didn't even realize it until this holiday break, but some of these concerns are one reason my sister-in-law didn't apply to the school, which has me even more intrigued. I would like to make sure that my wife and I make a decision that we are going to be happy with. If current students or applicants can help with that, or offer any information I might not know (especially any info that could ease my concerns) I'm appreciative, not argumentative.
The schools status and the potential future implications of it currently concern me. I realize others may not have this same concern and respect that. My concern may turn out to be unfounded and my wife and I end up attending the school. However, it would be nice to hear what other applicants and current students think about this. Which thread should I look to for that if not the schools discussion thread. As I said, these are things that are addressed at their interviews, which you state this thread is for. 😕
What you are saying is true and you are allowed to ask those questions as a potential applicant to RVU. But your questions are not being answered by current students at RVU or individuals who are interested in the school but by students who opposed the "for-profit" status thus having NO interest in the school and don't even attend RVU for that matter. So for those students who oppose the for-profit status and want to voice their opinions on the subject need to post that in the appropriate threads not this one. I could be wrong but that's what I take from it. 🙂
I really like Denver area but after hearing all these discussions, I am not so sure if I want to attend RVU. So sad🙁
This was really our top choice since we live in Colorado. But, I want to make sure we make the best choice for our future. There are enough schools out there without any stigmata that now I'm starting to second-guess our initial plans, and I'm starting to look at other schools more seriously. I love CO, but there are other schools where some of these potential issues wouldn't even be a thought.
This is a big decision and one that shouldn't be taken lightly. I would rather research the school and any potential problems now, than find out in a few years that I should have chosen a different school. There is too much money and time involved to make a hasty decision.
Anyway, I know the feeling your currently experiencing. We have lived here for years and felt excited at first, but the excitement has changed from excitement to concern, so....I know just how you're feeling.
Good luck to you.
I really like Denver area but after hearing all these discussions, I am not so sure if I want to attend RVU. So sad🙁
Its worth considering because you are dropping over $200,000 on your education. I lived in Denver and my husband had a wonderful job there and all of our friends were there. We really really didn't want to leave. However, I didn't get into CU but I didn't apply to RVU. I was thrilled initially when I heard a DO school was opening in Colorado, but ultimately disappointed at the direction it chose.
I am certain I would have gotten in, but it wasn't worth it. We moved to Toledo, Ohio (believe me, not my ideal location!) because I valued my education over my location for 4 years.
Just my 2 cents for all the applicants.
This pretty much sums up my sentiment at the moment. I guess I have some more research to do to ensure the best choice is made.
Anyway, we had a retired greyhound and you're right, they do rock! She was with us until she was about 13, but cancer got the best of her. She was one of the sweetest dogs I've ever had.
I think you owe it to yourself that SDN not be your biggest source of information. I've spoken with numerous doctors who couldn't care less whether or not RVU is for profit or no.
I appreciate the suggestion. Actually I took it upon myself to call the state licensing board (as someone in this thread suggested) earlier in the month. I was told exactly what someone posted- that the school is currently on a "questionable" list- meaning it's students would either not be able to obtain a license in the state, or best case scenario, extra hoops would need to be jumped through. So, I am doing further research, which honestly just raises further concerns.
While I'm sure the above issue will be resolved in time, it's just something that sent up red flags for me. It was the only U.S. school on the list, so I'm sure the other DO schools don't face this issue. Which just leads me back to the thought of "there are a lot of other schools", and that it may be wiser to choose one where such things would never even be a thought.
Really, I guess I'm just becoming not only more concerned, but more disappointed as well. Being from CO we were really looking forward to this school. I'm not saying the school won't be great mind you. I'm just not sure if I/we want to be the guinea pig in the experiment--especially when there are so many other choices out there.
So anyway, I'm not basing my concerns solely off of SDN. SDN does however offer me some general ideas of things that I may be wise to look into now rather than later (regarding the school).
I of course realize that there are many people attending or considering (myself and wife included) the school. I think it's great that they have decided that these issues aren't worth worrying about. But I'm just not that type of person- I would just end up worrying if I didn't get answers now. 🙂 And like I've said before, perhaps some of my concerns are unwarranted and will amount to nothing. But if I didn't look into things now, I would just worry myself to death later. 😉
Anyway, I appreciate your advice, it's solid. 🙂
Thanks. 🙂
hey i have an interview from 12-5 on 12/17 and i was wondering if anyone else had had one at this time slot...Do they get out around 5, earlier? later?
let me know please 😀 I'm trying to figure out some arrangements for travel afterward so i would really appreciate an answer. thanks!
I was done at 5:30
After reading posts and links about how RVU is listed as 'questionable' by the Colorado State Board of Medical Examiners, I emailed RVU to get more information on this issue. Here is the response:
"The answer is that the Colorado Board requires that a student graduate from an accredited college of medicine to be eligible for licensure. As a provisionally accredited institution that has met all the requirements of the state of Colorado, the AOA and the USDE, we cannot currently be fully accredited, thus are included on their list. We will be accredited at the time of graduation of our inaugural class in 2012, and there will be no conflicts with Colorado or any other states licensure board.
Rest assured, we would not have matriculated our Inaugural Class if there were any concerns over our students being eligible for licensure it just wouldnt make sense."
Hope that clears things up for some people.
After reading posts and links about how RVU is listed as 'questionable' by the Colorado State Board of Medical Examiners, I emailed RVU to get more information on this issue. Here is the response:
"We will be accredited at the time of graduation of our inaugural class in 2012, and there will be no conflicts with Colorado or any other states licensure board.
Do not listen to Bamish or anyone else!
There are many people who either did not get in or just like to start problems.
Look things up yourself and you will SEE that almost all of the negative statments about the school are not true.
Some of these people are the same ones from last year talking.
All i have to say is if the aoa and state boards dont care, why should you listen to some ignorant pre-meds.
Do your own research!
Do not listen to Bamish or anyone else!
There are many people who either did not get in or just like to start problems.
Look things up yourself and you will SEE that almost all of the negative statments about the school are not true.
Some of these people are the same ones from last year talking.
All i have to say is if the aoa and state boards dont care, why should you listen to some ignorant pre-meds.
Do your own research!
I received this message from RVU
."This is to inform you that the Office of Admissions at Rocky Vista University College of Osteopathic Medicine is continuing its consideration of your application for the class of 2009."
I was wondering if anyone knows what this means for my chances of getting an interview? Has anyone else received this message and heard back yet or talked to anyone?
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ok well bamish if you are not interested in RVU then get off this thread.
spend time "doing research" make sure you also call the school that are saying negative things about. Get your facts straight.
stop bringing up the same thing over and over. There are many other threads about this. Go there and enjoy yourself.
AOA agress, and every single of the residency programs that are under contract dont seem to care about "for-profit" status. so why do you?
just drop it and focus your time into getting into a school.
As soon as you made comments here on this thread it has gotten off topic.
Any medical schools does not need the negative outlook you have.
Now to any prospective students for RVU have any questions. Feel free to msg me and I will give you answers based on what the Dean of the school has said and not mr. bamish
RVU is a great school with soo much planned for the future. You should interview and ask any question that you may about the school and let the school tell you their plans and mr. bamish and others on this forum who have nothing better than to go bash school that they are not even interseted in attending....who does that serioulsy? Be productive
I hope you read for comprehension better in school than you do on these boards. Since you are confused- being from CO we are interested in the school, which is why I'm researching it (and has been stated in this very thread). Anyway, I'm not going to argue with you, I hate to say this, but I honestly feel you are beneath me.
Wow. That was very uncool, Bamish. You can voice your opinion without resorting to personal insults. 😡
I'm with a lot of the other students in saying that "for-profit" status has nothing to do with the school getting its accreditation or being able to gain practice rights in CO. But then again I'm just a premed. Maybe I should call myself and see what is up, because the website doesn't suggest or hint to anything negative about the school. Everyone states that its going to have a negative effect on the school but not the students, so what the heck does that me??😕😕
If the reason RVU has questionable status is because it is not accredited, shouldn't the new MD colleges in the US be on the list too, FIU for eg?
Hey bamish....you mind explaining what a KWH is?
The suspense is killing me.
I posted it just to annoy you. I knew it would drive just you crazy! 😉 Seriously, grats on your acceptance! 🙂
hahaha! thanks man! im bummed RVU didn't work out, I withdrew yesterday.
Im gonna figure out this KWH business...google hasn't helped thus far, and neither has urban dictionary. 😡
moderators:
please ban bamish from this thread. He/she is getting to insulting and unprofessional.
Bamish is posting false information about RVU and should not be allowed to continue postings.
Message to all: hes statements are false. He is someone who is just against for-profit status which has nothing to do with anything.
there are many posts by other who have disproved his messages but yet he continues to post.
AGAIN TO ALL POTENTIAL STUDENTS....DO NOT LISTEN TO HIM....COME SEE AND RESEARCH THE SCHOOL ON YOUR OWN AND YOU WILL SEE THAT THIS SCHOOL IS NO DIFFERENT THAN ANY OTHERS.
I must go now to a meeting with the PRESIDENT OF THE COLORADO SOCIETY OF MEDICINE, who represents both MDs and DOs across the state. WHO IS GIVING A PRESENTATION SAYING HOW HAPPY THE STATE OF COLORADO IS TO HAVE ANOTHER MEDICAL SCHOOL.
THERE ARE SOO MANY EVENTS AND IMPORTANT PEOPLE THAT COME AND GIVE SPEECHES AND ARE SOO HAPPY ABOUT THE SCHOOL, BUT I DONT FEEL ITS NECESSARY TO POST THEM ALL SO THAT WE CAN DISPROVE PEOPLE LIKE BAMISH.
HAVE A GREAT DAY EVERYONE!
Actually, I've posted nothing that's false. Anyone can call the state board and be told exactly what I was. And I've not posted anything else about the school. So, I'm not sure how your comments have any validity. And, I'm not against any school, I simply want to make sure I'm making the best choice I can regarding any school I might attend. I'm not sure why you struggle with this. Are you that insecure about your own school? Just because someone questions the school doesn't make them the horrible thing that you've made them to be in your mind. Get over it, the school does have concerns that people have every right to research, just because that research might not lead to an answer you like doesn't make it meaningless. Grow up.
Had you taken any time to read posts instead of just whining you would realize that I have been supportive of the school. My wife is very excited about it, and I am going to research it, just as I'll research LECOM more now that she is accepted to it. So, stop your shouting, crying, and pity party- grow up and realize that just because someone questions a school doesn't mean they are against a school, it just means they are trying to make an informed decision.
The only insult I saw was when I was called an ignorant pre-med by someone who is telling people to do their own research. But when someone like me does do some research and then posts one small negative, they are called an ignorant pre-med. If you want to talk uncool, start with the person starting the personal insults, which wasn't me. I have found out some other things that concern me about the school, but I haven't listed them because frankly, the fan-bois (spelling...my daughters term) on this thread would just get their shorts in a bunch. What would be the point in sharing any potential information anyway? It's not appreciated, only flamed.
I of course didn't actually start sharing any of this information--I only mentioned one small part (the licensing thing- which wasn't even mentioned by me initially) in a reply to someone and look what happened, you all jump on a bandwagon...again, sad. Someone suggested that I do research on my own, which I replied that I had been and used the licensing issue since it had already been brought up by someone else previously in this thread....which somehow translates into me being an ignorant pre-med. Sure, I'll accept an apology from you too since you seem to have jumped on board.
Anyway, the way you people seem to think is that people should do their own research, as long as that research only involves calling the school and being told how wonderful everything is. If however you do other research and find something that concerns you, then don't post it here, people don't want to hear it. For example, the licensing issue. I called the state board, was told that RVU is on their questionable list and posted that. I also posted that this problem would probably be resolved by the school ASAP, but nobody cared that I posted that. Instead I was an "ignorant pre-med".
Uncool, yes, many of you are.
The only insult I saw was when I was called an ignorant pre-med by someone who is telling people to do their own research. But when someone like me does do some research and then posts one small negative, they are called an ignorant pre-med. If you want to talk uncool, start with the person starting the personal insults, which wasn't me. I have found out some other things that concern me about the school, but I haven't listed them because frankly, the fan-bois (spelling...my daughters term) on this thread would just get their shorts in a bunch. What would be the point in sharing any potential information anyway? It's not appreciated, only flamed.
I of course didn't actually start sharing any of this information--I only mentioned one small part (the licensing thing- which wasn't even mentioned by me initially) in a reply to someone and look what happened, you all jump on a bandwagon...again, sad. Someone suggested that I do research on my own, which I replied that I had been and used the licensing issue since it had already been brought up by someone else previously in this thread....which somehow translates into me being an ignorant pre-med. Sure, I'll accept an apology from you too since you seem to have jumped on board.
Anyway, the way you people seem to think is that people should do their own research, as long as that research only involves calling the school and being told how wonderful everything is. If however you do other research and find something that concerns you, then don't post it here, people don't want to hear it. For example, the licensing issue. I called the state board, was told that RVU is on their questionable list and posted that. I also posted that this problem would probably be resolved by the school ASAP, but nobody cared that I posted that. Instead I was an "ignorant pre-med".
Uncool, yes, many of you are.
Yea, but he didn't call you names or try to insult you by saying he's smart or better than you. He said don't list to "Bamish and the others" not don't listen to that ignorant pre-med Bamish or did I miss something?? By all means correct me if I missed something. That was the uncool part for which I was referring to. I understand you wanted to defend yourself regarding his post for calling you out, but the name calling and bashing his intelligence isn't going to solve anything.
Secondly, from what you and others say about RVU via the conversation with the Medical Examiners contradicts what is said on the website about RVU which doesn't suggest or elude to any suspicions of any kind. It doesn't seem fesible that CO would deny liscense to RVU graduates when they will grant them accreditation (of course this is assume that they continue with successful progression). I could be wrong and naive to the situation, but it does sound like people are blowing this up into a bigger balloon than what it really is. Now I'm only referring to the licensing issue and haven't had time to really research what other issues they may in fact have. If you don't care to share that's fine, I'm sure it will come up sooner rather than later if its a biggie.
EDIT: I think I took to long to post my reply.