Sketchymicro?

Burrell College of Osteopathic Medicine
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Maruko said:
ugh, i tried the trial subscription and didn't like it.
if you learn well by stories and illustrations that have nothing to do with the actual science, then it is for you.
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This is how I felt when I started using sketchy. The key is starting early. After using it for micro, the recurring symbols make the pharm section very appealing. I haven't gotten too far into the new stuff yet, but the antimicrobial trial helped me substantially -- but only because most of the "random" icons they used for their stories were familiar and actually had meaning to me.
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Anyone wanna go in together for a pharm subscription? $99 is too much for me... PM me if interested
 
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I use both Sketchy and Picmonic and think they are fantastic! I like Sketchy > Picmonic though for the micro stuff.
 
I'm matriculating in the Fall. How does everyone use sketchy to supplement lecture videos/notes? Do you typically do lecture first followed by sketchy? How much time do you spend on sketchy?
 
PathoTurnUp1865 said:
I'm matriculating in the Fall. How does everyone use sketchy to supplement lecture videos/notes? Do you typically do lecture first followed by sketchy? How much time do you spend on sketchy?
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Seems like Sketchy only covers Microbiology and Pharmacology.
 
PathoTurnUp1865 said:
I'm matriculating in the Fall. How does everyone use sketchy to supplement lecture videos/notes? Do you typically do lecture first followed by sketchy? How much time do you spend on sketchy?
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Yeah that's how I did it. There are a few specifics our professor harped on that sketchy didn't include so it's always good to do both.
 
PathoTurnUp1865 said:
I'm matriculating in the Fall. How does everyone use sketchy to supplement lecture videos/notes? Do you typically do lecture first followed by sketchy? How much time do you spend on sketchy?
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Ignore lecture.
 
PathoTurnUp1865 said:
I'm matriculating in the Fall. How does everyone use sketchy to supplement lecture videos/notes? Do you typically do lecture first followed by sketchy? How much time do you spend on sketchy?
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If I remember correctly, you'll be going to my school. For the micro lectures in systems, make a list of all the bugs they cover then go find the sketchy video for all of them. After you've watched them, gloss over the lecture powerpoint to see if there are any random facts the PhD put in that sketchy didn't cover. Makes you wish for more micro on the exam. Time spent varies by amount of micro on exam, but much less than on other material. And don't be a douche, pay for the subscription--it's one of the best values in med school.
 
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xroc said:
Even though the pharm videos are long, I think they do a great job of covering the physiology behind drug action.
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Agreed-- I think the pharm videos are less useful than micro for memorization because they're longer and more symbol-heavy, but actually more useful for learning because they explain things so well (better than my pharm book, anyway).
 
chillaxbro said:
Anyone wanna go in together for a pharm subscription? $99 is too much for me... PM me if interested
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You signed up for about $200,000 in loans at 7% interest, but it's the $99 for a great resource that you are clearly interested in using that breaks the bank??

Support people that make great resources or don't use them.
 
Hangry said:
You signed up for about $200,000 in loans at 7% interest, but it's the $99 for a great resource that you are clearly interested in using that breaks the bank??

Support people that make great resources or don't use them.
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I won't and I didn't

If I convinced someone on the fence to go in with me they would get 100 bucks they otherwise wouldn't get. You're actually the ahole in this situation
 
chillaxbro said:
I won't and I didn't

If I convinced someone on the fence to go in with me they would get 100 bucks they otherwise wouldn't get. You're actually the ahole in this situation
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So edgy 👍

Yes I am definitely "the ahole" for suggesting that both of you could pay for a resource you'll be using rather than trying to game the system. Or we could just go back to the pre-outside resources days, and you could learn micro and pharm strictly from your professor's slides. If people don't support small companies like sketchy or pathoma for their products, we wouldn't have them. It's not an exorbitant expense, especially if you are one of the lucky ones who took out very few loans as you appear to be insinuating.
 
Hangry said:
So edgy 👍

Yes I am definitely "the ahole" for suggesting that both of you could pay for a resource you'll be using rather than trying to game the system. Or we could just go back to the pre-outside resources days, and you could learn micro and pharm strictly from your professor's slides. If people don't support small companies like sketchy or pathoma for their products, we wouldn't have them. It's not an exorbitant expense, especially if you are one of the lucky ones who took out very few loans as you appear to be insinuating.
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Easy for you to say you 1% trump supporter.....
 
chillaxbro said:
Easy for you to say you 1% trump supporter.....
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LOL.

So, they don't make them more liberal than me, and I agree with my colleague @Hangry on this. $100 isn't too much to pay for a resource that is so incredibly useful, and which the creators put so much work into. Cheating other med students/residents/physicians by using resources they created without paying for them is not sticking it to the man and the 1%.

If you feel that Sketchy isn't worth $100, but is worth half that, why not show some integrity and maturity by contacting them and *asking* them to cut you a deal. If they think it is better to be paid 1/2 their requested rate rather than nothing at all, they might give you a discount.

They do know that people steal their work and use it, and being students and former students, just like us, they do appreciate the financial pressures we face. That is all the more reason to support them as much as you are able.

I gave $20 to a guy who makes excellent, free youtube videos about topics of interest to us. He requests donations, but apparently, even though his videos are super helpful, he doesn't so much get them. He wrote me a personal email to thank me for sending him $20, and said that he has received fewer than 20 donations in the past year. People will spend hundreds-thousands on big companies like Kaplan, DIT, etc... never mind what they pay for text books and in actual tuition... but then balk at sending $20 to 100 to support Sketchy, Dr. Najeeb, or other smaller time content producers. It is cool if you want to be like that, but don't try to pretend that it is about being progressive or something else vaguely noble.

At that point, you are just looking for excuses to make it okay to cheat someone just like you.
 
Promethean said:
LOL.

So, they don't make them more liberal than me, and I agree with my colleague @Hangry on this. $100 isn't too much to pay for a resource that is so incredibly useful, and which the creators put so much work into. Cheating other med students/residents/physicians by using resources they created without paying for them is not sticking it to the man and the 1%.

If you feel that Sketchy isn't worth $100, but is worth half that, why not show some integrity and maturity by contacting them and *asking* them to cut you a deal. If they think it is better to be paid 1/2 their requested rate rather than nothing at all, they might give you a discount.

They do know that people steal their work and use it, and being students and former students, just like us, they do appreciate the financial pressures we face. That is all the more reason to support them as much as you are able.

I gave $20 to a guy who makes excellent, free youtube videos about topics of interest to us. He requests donations, but apparently, even though his videos are super helpful, he doesn't so much get them. He wrote me a personal email to thank me for sending him $20, and said that he has received fewer than 20 donations in the past year. People will spend hundreds-thousands on big companies like Kaplan, DIT, etc... never mind what they pay for text books and in actual tuition... but then balk at sending $20 to 100 to support Sketchy, Dr. Najeeb, or other smaller time content producers. It is cool if you want to be like that, but don't try to pretend that it is about being progressive or something else vaguely noble.

At that point, you are just looking for excuses to make it okay to cheat someone just like you.
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Youre not a real liberal if you support businesses
 
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I think Sketchy and Pathoma are both worth the $100 or whatever they charge for them. That said, piracy's pretty common in med school... if they kicked people out for file sharing there wouldn't be a lot of future doctors left (not that it makes it okay, just saying it's not exactly a rare crime).

chillaxbro said:
Easy for you to say you 1% trump supporter.....
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That escalated quickly.
 
ortnakas said:
I think Sketchy and Pathoma are both worth the $100 or whatever they charge for them. That said, piracy's pretty common in med school... if they kicked people out for file sharing there wouldn't be a lot of future doctors left (not that it makes it okay, just saying it's not exactly a rare crime).
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I know that a ton of file sharing goes on, and I get why. And I know that my finances are stretched to the absolute max, and that I'm happy to find a "free" way to use a resource if I need it in a pinch and don't have the cash to drop on it right at that moment. But... whenever I can find a way to support a content creator that I appreciate, I make a point of doing that. I don't condemn my classmates who accessed Sketchy, etc. in various ways. Just when that loan money does come in, after the rent, etc. is paid up... it is a good time to look to see who else you might need to put a few dollars toward. Whether or not you believe in karma per se, I trust that if everyone chips in a bit, we all get nicer materials to pirate in the next round. =)
 
chillaxbro said:
Lmao I win. Also 10/10 since I got 2 people to write 3 essays
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I am never posting just for the benefit of the one person that I'm answering. That is what PM is for. All my public posts are made with the understanding that they will be seen by dozens or hundreds of other people, most of whom won't bother to add their own posts to the thread. What you call an essay costs me only a few moments of brisk typing, and shares my thoughts on a topic with anyone who bothers to read them. Your attempt to provoke is just a writing prompt, and if I chose to respond, it is because I felt that I had something valuable or interesting to say. The writing itself is my reward, and the wider community participation it entails, not your individual reaction.

Also, if you consider a few lines of message board text to be an essay, do you even read nonfiction for pleasure bro?
 
I'm sorry but splitting the cost of membership between a few people is not a big deal. That dude who started this whole thing was just asking if anyone wanted to go in on it with him lol I don't see the problem
 
MedNation907 said:
I'm sorry but splitting the cost of membership between a few people is not a big deal. That dude who started this whole thing was just asking if anyone wanted to go in on it with him lol I don't see the problem
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The only reason it is an issue is that the memberships are priced the way that they are because they are intended to be 1 membership, 1 user. The price point is set where it is because that is the place where the business model that the creators are using says that it is worth their while to produce and distribute the product. If they have to accommodate people who set up their own discounts by having multiple people piling onto one account, that means they have to set that point higher for everyone. If they could be assured that everyone who used it would pay their fair share, they could set a lower price and still make a reasonable profit.

Would you be able to see the problem with it if three or four people came to an appointment, expecting to all receive your services for the same price? It is a fair analogy: Yes, the video content was all made once, and they don't have to recreate it every time for each viewer... but there are some costs, like bandwidth, that do go up with every person who accesses a shared account. Your education was all done at once, and you don't have to redo it for every person who piles onto the exam table. But your bandwidth, your time/attention/cost of providing services does increase with each additional patient who wants to access the care you provide.

If you think about it that way, at least pirated files just steal (or "borrow") from the content producer one time, where account "sharing" makes them bear the costs of multiple users accessing their site.
 
Promethean said:
The only reason it is an issue is that the memberships are priced the way that they are because they are intended to be 1 membership, 1 user. The price point is set where it is because that is the place where the business model that the creators are using says that it is worth their while to produce and distribute the product. If they have to accommodate people who set up their own discounts by having multiple people piling onto one account, that means they have to set that point higher for everyone. If they could be assured that everyone who used it would pay their fair share, they could set a lower price and still make a reasonable profit.

Would you be able to see the problem with it if three or four people came to an appointment, expecting to all receive your services for the same price? It is a fair analogy: Yes, the video content was all made once, and they don't have to recreate it every time for each viewer... but there are some costs, like bandwidth, that do go up with every person who accesses a shared account. Your education was all done at once, and you don't have to redo it for every person who piles onto the exam table. But your bandwidth, your time/attention/cost of providing services does increase with each additional patient who wants to access the care you provide.

If you think about it that way, at least pirated files just steal (or "borrow") from the content producer one time, where account "sharing" makes them bear the costs of multiple users accessing their site.
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I know, and I wouldn't go as far as pirating the videos. But whether or not I am right, I just assumed they would have considered the likelihood of shared accounts. I mean the upgrade to their new drug videos costed $130, that's expensive. And to compare it to our investment in tuition is an absurd line of logic, the fact that we are paying hundreds of thousands of dollars should support economical choices -- instead of the motivator to just "Eh, I'm already paying tons of money I'll just buy ****". That's exactly what NOT to do; and this is referencing someone else's statement earlier. Anyways, it's just challenging to be that righteous when the person sitting right next to you also wants to use sketchy.
 
MedNation907 said:
I know, and I wouldn't go as far as pirating the videos. But whether or not I am right, I just assumed they would have considered the likelihood of shared accounts. I mean the upgrade to their new drug videos costed $130, that's expensive. And to compare it to our investment in tuition is an absurd line of logic, the fact that we are paying hundreds of thousands of dollars should support economical choices -- instead of the motivator to just "Eh, I'm already paying tons of money I'll just buy ****". That's exactly what NOT to do; and this is referencing someone else's statement earlier. Anyways, it's just challenging to be that righteous when the person sitting right next to you also wants to use sketchy.
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I hear you. Like I said, I've also succumbed to the temptation to use "free" ways to access resources when I didn't have the funds at the same time that I needed the resource. I just try to go back and pay for them properly whenever I am able to. I also once let someone borrow one of my accounts for a couple of days to see if he thought it was worth paying for. So, I'm not condemning people who do that sort of thing... just pointing out that just because you can get away with it, and that they know that some people will get away with it, doesn't mean that it is the way you should go about things if you can at all afford to do otherwise.

I'm sure that they do consider the likelihood of shared accounts, and that it does get built into their pricing. Everyone who pays, pays a little more than they would have to if accounts weren't being shared. You can look at that and think, well, then that justifies me splitting the cost with other people... or you can realize that this just makes you part of the problem. Someone has to be willing to pay for Sketchy so that it is worth their while to make it. The more of us who bear the cost, the less it costs everyone... and the more likely the creators are to make more for us to use.

It is challenging to do the right thing. That is usually the case. The wrong thing is wrong because it exploits someone else in order to make things better/easier for you. No one makes the most ethical choices all the time, but we should at least acknowledge what the right thing is, and hopefully do it more often than not.
 
This is why people hate milenials. Sketchy and pathoma are literally free market items. There is no monopoly. There is no market forces making you make a hasty decision because of an emergent need. It is basically a luxury item, like a ring, TV, or surround sound system. They make a price and as a consumer you decide if you want it based on its value to you. Some entitled ass clowns in this thread.
 
MedNation907 said:
instead of the motivator to just "Eh, I'm already paying tons of money I'll just buy ****". That's exactly what NOT to do; and this is referencing someone else's statement earlier.
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I'm going to go ahead and assume you are referencing my statement from earlier in this thread, so I am going to ask you to expand on this thought. You apparently thought learning/training to be a doctor was worth $200-250K dollars in medical school tuition and expenses, so why balk at $100 for a resource that greatly contributes to your education? Because you can screw over sketchy but not your medical school so you might as well?

Obviously would have been a stupid argument for me to say "you're already down 200k, might as well just buy whatever you want and rack up those loans" but that isn't at all what I was saying. I was referring specifically to pirating/sharing educational resources that GREATLY enhance the quality of that education you already decided was worth so much.

Also thanks @Promethean for putting my argument more succinctly and elegantly than I could have.
 
Did not expect this topic to turn into a debate. I use both micro and pharm, it useful no doubt. I just hate the fact that I have to resubscribe another 260 in a year for boards. At least pathoma gives me 2 years for $100. Adding on to the tuition debt idea, ask your class rep to see if the can get you a deal. Ours did for pathoma and firecracker.



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Hangry said:
I'm going to go ahead and assume you are referencing my statement from earlier in this thread, so I am going to ask you to expand on this thought. You apparently thought learning/training to be a doctor was worth $200-250K dollars in medical school tuition and expenses, so why balk at $100 for a resource that greatly contributes to your education? Because you can screw over sketchy but not your medical school so you might as well?

Obviously would have been a stupid argument for me to say "you're already down 200k, might as well just buy whatever you want and rack up those loans" but that isn't at all what I was saying. I was referring specifically to pirating/sharing educational resources that GREATLY enhance the quality of that education you already decided was worth so much.

Also thanks @Promethean for putting my argument more succinctly and elegantly than I could have.
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I will expand, quite simply actually: money saved is money saved. Students aren't going to bring down the Sketchy company by sharing with another person, it's hardly that big of a deal. But I'm sure you'll come back with a snarky comment so I will simply digress. I did not expect this to be such a soft spot in people. And for the record, i'm not referring to pirating - that's different - we're still supporting the company. And also, there's not a single student I know that isn't sharing accounts. Not just sketchy, just various resources are shared all the time. It's just life, sorry it bothers you so much.
 
MedNation907 said:
I will expand, quite simply actually: money saved is money saved. Students aren't going to bring down the Sketchy company by sharing with another person, it's hardly that big of a deal. But I'm sure you'll come back with a snarky comment so I will simply digress. I did not expect this to be such a soft spot in people. And for the record, i'm not referring to pirating - that's different - we're still supporting the company. And also, there's not a single student I know that isn't sharing accounts. Not just sketchy, just various resources are shared all the time. It's just life, sorry it bothers you so much.
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tl;dr mind your own god damn business
 
MedNation907 said:
I will expand, quite simply actually: money saved is money saved. Students aren't going to bring down the Sketchy company by sharing with another person, it's hardly that big of a deal. But I'm sure you'll come back with a snarky comment so I will simply digress. I did not expect this to be such a soft spot in people. And for the record, i'm not referring to pirating - that's different - we're still supporting the company. And also, there's not a single student I know that isn't sharing accounts. Not just sketchy, just various resources are shared all the time. It's just life, sorry it bothers you so much.
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You can call it "supporting the company" but that doesn't change the fact that it is still a form of pirating/theft. The company sets the price point, you can either 1) buy it 2) leave it or 3) haggle for it. I know a lot of people share accounts, that doesn't make it right or negate that fact that it is piracy. It doesn't bother me personally, but I try to support companies that make products that make my life better. It blows my mind how medical students will complain to high heaven about how terrible their lecturers are and how much they wish there were better study resources available and proclaim how amazing Pathoma, sketchy etc and then turn around and pirate the very affordable content from these small companies providing exactly what they wanted.

chillaxbro said:
tl;dr mind your own god damn business
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tl;dr call a spade a spade. You're self image/esteem may not like it, but account sharing is a form of piracy. If you want to be that way, so be it, no skin off my back. But don't rationalize it like you're some noble person "supporting the company". If they thought $50 was worth their product, they would have set the price point there. Next time you fill up with $20 worth of gas, you should throw the attendant a $10 and tell him he's lucky you paid anything at all.
 
Hangry said:
You can call it "supporting the company" but that doesn't change the fact that it is still a form of pirating/theft. The company sets the price point, you can either 1) buy it 2) leave it or 3) haggle for it. I know a lot of people share accounts, that doesn't make it right or negate that fact that it is piracy. It doesn't bother me personally, but I try to support companies that make products that make my life better. It blows my mind how medical students will complain to high heaven about how terrible their lecturers are and how much they wish there were better study resources available and proclaim how amazing Pathoma, sketchy etc and then turn around and pirate the very affordable content from these small companies providing exactly what they wanted.



tl;dr call a spade a spade. You're self image/esteem may not like it, but account sharing is a form of piracy. If you want to be that way, so be it, no skin off my back. But don't rationalize it like you're some noble person "supporting the company". If they thought $50 was worth their product, they would have set the price point there. Next time you fill up with $20 worth of gas, you should throw the attendant a $10 and tell him he's lucky you paid anything at all.
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$100 for 6 months. I only needed it for a week. $50 for 1 week is a lot more than they asked for so you're actually the ahole in this situation
 
chillaxbro said:
$100 for 6 months. I only needed it for a week. $50 for 1 week is a lot more than they asked for so you're actually the ahole in this situation
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I love the smell of rationalization in the morning...
 
Does someone have free videos of sketchy micro pls share with me
 
earf said:
I absolutely loved sketchymicro. It helped me a ton during my micro block in a way that picmonic didn't. While on the wards, I am still thinking back to the pictures in my head of the sketchymicro scenes because they had a way of painting a picture that was vivid enough to stick with me. It's definitely worth the money if you're going to get it.
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can i have the free videos pls
 
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