SUNY upstate, anyone?

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Older dude said:
I would give it another week! Pulling for you
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Thanks dude...I'd like it if all of us on here were classmates 🙂

*clasps hands together and prays even though she's not religious*
 
jessy_erin said:
Thanks dude...I'd like it if all of us on here were classmates 🙂

*clasps hands together and prays even though she's not religious*
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Hey Canadian Friend, who also has a Florida Residency, so she can apply to Florida Schools 😡 ,

I hate to be bearer of bad news but if you didnt get a phone acceptance it isnt good news (especially if you heard ppl who interviewed around your date got it). You either waitlisted or rejected. Trust me I know 🙂

But didnt you get accepted to a Miami? Boy, nothing against Upstate (even though I am a little bitter 😛 ), but Syracuse the city is nothing compared to Miami the city. It's like night versus day.
 
sonyvaio2700 said:
Hey Canadian Friend, who also has a Florida Residency, so she can apply to Florida Schools 😡 ,

I hate to be bearer of bad news but if you didnt get a phone acceptance it isnt good news (especially if you heard ppl who interviewed around your date got it). You either waitlisted or rejected. Trust me I know 🙂

But didnt you get accepted to a Miami? Boy, nothing against Upstate (even though I am a little bitter 😛 ), but Syracuse the city is nothing compared to Miami the city. It's like night versus day.
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Miami - the Boca campus - where population is not all that diverse, it's suburbia and there will be 32 people in the medical class...*sob*

Miami - the main campus gave me a big fat waitlist spot 🙁

Yes, separate adcoms boo hoo!

So at this point, I'm thinking I'd like to save the 80k at Syracuse if I can. I am considering a tertiary care track for my residency and even if I'm not sure what I want to do I don't want to be limited. With SUNY Upstate Medical Center serving 20 counties with their services, and Boca having a more "family medicine" focus, I think SUNY would be a better fit for this urbanite from Montreal/Miami.
 
I am lucky enough to have two acceptances thus far, SUNY Upstate and SUNY Downstate. Therefore, it is likely, assuming no other acceptances, that I will indeed be classmates with any of you who are also going to Upstate. See you in August?!

BTW- Anyone opt for Binghamton campus?
 
NYyanx28 said:
I am lucky enough to have two acceptances thus far, SUNY Upstate and SUNY Downstate. Therefore, it is likely, assuming no other acceptances, that I will indeed be classmates with any of you who are also going to Upstate. See you in August?!

BTW- Anyone opt for Binghamton campus?
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I said, I "prefer" Syracuse...so I might end up at Binghamton if I'm actually waitlisted... But, since we don't even know if I'll be your classmate... 🙁

I'm surprised you didn't choose Downstate over Upstate...you want Family Medicine?
 
Hey,

I just got an interview at SUNY upstate, but its in March. Do I still have a chance. I am also a Canadian.
 
jessy_erin said:
I said, I "prefer" Syracuse...so I might end up at Binghamton if I'm actually waitlisted... But, since we don't even know if I'll be your classmate... 🙁

I'm surprised you didn't choose Downstate over Upstate...you want Family Medicine?
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What do you mean by this? Is Upstate more geared to Family Medicine than Downstate or something? Confused.
 
Hey canadian-

I also got an interview in mid-March. I stressed when I scheduled it that I would take any slot that opens up, and only need two days notice. I then followed up a few days ago with another phone call, and later on that afternoon, I was offered a slot on Monday. So I would recommend doing this!Good Luck!
 
Xibye said:
What do you mean by this? Is Upstate more geared to Family Medicine than Downstate or something? Confused.
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The Binghampton campus is much more focused on long term, primary care training, unlike the Syracuse campus for clinicals.
 
In other Upstate news: the online status page is back up. Mine says nothing new from before. I wonder what it all means.
 
Xibye said:
What do you mean by this? Is Upstate more geared to Family Medicine than Downstate or something? Confused.
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I think the poster choose Upstate over Downstate because Upstate has a Binghamton campus (1st, 2nd year is at Syracuse, 3rd, 4th year at Binghamton). Since the poster is graduating from Binghamton (check the sig) that why the choice was made.

Downstate is higher ranked school...but the statement Upstate produces more FM students is not true at all. There was a student who went into Neuro Surgery last year.
 
sonyvaio2700 said:
I think the poster choose Upstate over Downstate because Upstate has a Binghamton campus (1st, 2nd year is at Syracuse, 3rd, 4th year at Binghamton). Since the poster is graduating from Binghamton (check the sig) that why the choice was made.

Downstate is higher ranked school...but the statement Upstate produces more FM students is not true at all. There was a student who went into Neuro Surgery last year.
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I did not imply it was more family med producing, FELLOW CANADiAN (BWAHAHAHA)...I just meant that at Upstate, you will get a more family med feel/approach to clinical education if you choose the binghamton campus.

Downstate is very urban with the chance to experience a more diverse population and East Flatbush is not the nicest area, so the experience would be different... If you like a more longitudinal approach to your patients Binghamton is the way to go.

AND, I also was thinking that the guy graduating from Binghamton University probably picked Binghamton because he has ties to it. 🙂
 
DblHelix said:
The Bingham-ton campus is much more focused on long term, primary care training, unlike the Syracuse campus for clinicals.
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According to the dean, another benefit of the Binghamton campus is that you get more responsibility than your fellow students on the Syracuse campus. e.g. you get to be first or second assistant during surgeries.
 
Only third year is mandatory at Binghamton. You can transfer back to Syracuse for your 4th year. Transferring your third year, requires a 1-for-1 switch--someone from Syracuse has to transfer to Binghamton.

I was extremely skeptical about Binghamton before my interview, but it seems, if you're really interested in Surgery or FM or Peds, Binghamton may be the place to be, since you actually get to *do* far more there than in Syracuse. Though the main campus has many more interesting cases, I was told all you'll be doing is pulling lab results for the residents and standing in the corner of the OR. But at Binghamton, students often have the opportunity to be the first-assist on surgeries, which is, apparently, unheard of at Syracuse.
 
junebuguf said:
Only third year is mandatory at Binghamton. You can transfer back to Syracuse for your 4th year. Transferring your third year, requires a 1-for-1 switch--someone from Syracuse has to transfer to Binghamton.

I was extremely skeptical about Binghamton before my interview, but it seems, if you're really interested in Surgery or FM or Peds, Binghamton may be the place to be, since you actually get to *do* far more there than in Syracuse. Though the main campus has many more interesting cases, I was told all you'll be doing is pulling lab results for the residents and standing in the corner of the OR. But at Binghamton, students often have the opportunity to be the first-assist on surgeries, which is, apparently, unheard of at Syracuse.
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For FP and surgery, Binghamton may be better but peds is kind of variable. It's really dependent on the order of rotations (few pts. in summer). Oh, and while Upstate has rolling admissions, as far as I know, I'm not interviewing people for positions on the waitlist.
 
sonyvaio2700 said:
Downstate is higher ranked school...but the statement Upstate produces more FM students is not true at all. There was a student who went into Neuro Surgery last year.
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Where is Downstate ranked higher? How much higher is it? Is there a full list somewhere? US News only has the top 50 rankings...
 
I personally don't know how people are saying that Downstate is the better choice. Upstate has far more funding running through it's veins and yes, there may not be gunshot wounds or stabbings, but you will encounter far more "breakthrough" procedures at Upstate. Upstate is also breaking ground on the brand new Children's Hospital, recently completed brand new anatomy labs and has beautiful lecture hall/medical school facilities.

As far as Binghamton(note: no P) vs. Syracuse clinical campus, I was placed into Binghamton because I like the idea of scrubbing in and actually assisting in surgery and the closeness to the doctors. I also like the idea of returning home to beautiful Vestal, NY(Binghamton Univ. is actually not in Binghamton, but 3 minutes outside in a town called Vestal- Amazing shopping/restaurants btw) and coming back to my "roots".

I also met several anesthesiology residents from St. Lukes/Roosevelt Hospital in NYC who were doing their rotations through Columbia Presbyterian/Children's Hospital of New York who went to Upstate and then to Binghamton. They loved it and in all honesty, this will in no way hold anyone back from any residency(screw that, "people who want to do peds/surg/FM go to Binghamton crap)... just kick ass on the boards!
 
NYyanx28 said:
Upstate has far more funding running through it's veins and yes, there may not be gunshot wounds or stabbings,
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We have just been given funding to start a cord-blood stem cell research center, which I find exciting.

Also, if you think we don't see GSW and Stabbings then you need to read www.syracuse.com more often! 😀

Also, to reply to some that have the feeling that you won't 'see as much' at Upstate versus Downstate. . .University Hospital is adjacent to some sketchy neighborhoods, so you get a good share of anything you'd see at downstate. Granted, Syracuse isn't the gotham that NYC is, but it is the 3rd largest city in New York State. To read some posts and interview feedbacks, you'd think Upstate Medical University was out in the middle of a cornfield somewhere. 🙄
 
racerx said:
Upstate Medical University was out in the middle of a cornfield somewhere. 🙄
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Ya, Syracuse isnt that bad of a city. But if you are coming from Cali I think it is still a shock.
 
Ok, I came into this process thinking that Upstate was definitively for me and Downstate was not... I am still leaning that way, but I have started to shift the other direction a bit. Upstate has a lot of perks which have been listed here and, from applying and interviewing there for early assurance two years ago, I can tell you that it seems to be a great community up there. Got a wonderful vibe and I am excited to be interviewing there (albeit not til mid-late March)... In any case, Downstate has its perks too. Granted it is in Brooklyn (and I don't much care for Brooklyn) and a not so good part at that... But, from talking to several physicians I am close with (graduates of Mt. Sinai and Jefferson who now live on Long Island. They've told me that some of the best doctors they know went to Downstate. The simple fact of the matter, according to them, is that Downstate gives students the opportunity to do a lot and be exposed to a lot. Their hospital is the only major academic hospital in Brooklyn and serves over 2 million people (check their website if you don't believe me) and that is bound to give a lot of exposure to a lot of people...

The bottom line is that Upstate is not "better than" Downstate or vice versa. Different people will feel more connected to each and that's a good thing - it'll make more people happier. If given the choice, I'd probably choose Upstate, but I don't know... each has it's advantages. I just hope that I'm fortunate enough to be in that situation, but either one would be great and those accepted to either should feel privaledged.
 
racerx said:
Granted, Syracuse isn't the gotham that NYC is, but it is the 3rd largest city in New York State. To read some posts and interview feedbacks, you'd think Upstate Medical University was out in the middle of a cornfield somewhere. 🙄
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Just to put it in to perspective:
NYC population: 8,143,200
Brooklyn Alone: 2,465,326
Syracuse Population: 146,404


http://www.brooklyn.com/population.html
http://money.cnn.com/magazines/moneymag/bplive/2006/states/NY.html

Comparatively, Syracuse does seem cornfieldish from here 😛
 
remarkal3le said:
Just to put it in to perspective:
NYC population: 8,143,200
Brooklyn Alone: 2,465,326
Syracuse Population: 146,404


http://www.brooklyn.com/population.html
http://money.cnn.com/magazines/moneymag/bplive/2006/states/NY.html

Comparatively, Syracuse does seem cornfieldish from here 😛
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LOL Seriously....

I DON'T see anything wrong with Syracuse - so nobody jump down my throat - but, 3rd largest city in the state of New York doesn't mean much when you consider the size difference 🙂.

I think the thing that means a lot at Syracuse is how they serve a 20 county area and how if someone gets in a car accident that's really bad in Messina, they will be airlifted to Crouse or University 🙂.
 
remarkal3le said:
Just to put it in to perspective:
NYC population: 8,143,200
Brooklyn Alone: 2,465,326
Syracuse Population: 146,404


http://www.brooklyn.com/population.html
http://money.cnn.com/magazines/moneymag/bplive/2006/states/NY.html

Comparatively, Syracuse does seem cornfieldish from here 😛
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Yes, because we all know that culture, things to do, and a broad/diverse patient base only exist if there is a seven digit population. 🙄

As J_E stated, our catchment area spans 20 counties in Central New York, drawing more than enough diverse patients. As far as patient diversity goes, we get the city-based patients (GSW, STD's, stabbings, MVA) as well as rural-based patients (farming accidents, etc). I would opine that this allows for an even greater diversity than one would get in Brooklyn.

I get the feeling that some people's ideas of diversity include only the urban underserved. There are more than a few rural underserved too, remember.

If you all think that you can't live without being in an ultra-high population (I guess you think you're gonna have lots of time to go clubbing and lots of money to eat out), then please choose Downstate. However, if you would like to spend the next four years at a very student-friendly university that is undergoing a large growth in its research and standing, while you're enjoying a great group of fellow students, then welcome!
 
racerx said:
Yes, because we all know that culture, things to do, and a broad/diverse patient base only exist if there is a seven digit population. 🙄

As J_E stated, our catchment area spans 20 counties in Central New York, drawing more than enough diverse patients. As far as patient diversity goes, we get the city-based patients (GSW, STD's, stabbings, MVA) as well as rural-based patients (farming accidents, etc). I would opine that this allows for an even greater diversity than one would get in Brooklyn.

I get the feeling that some people's ideas of diversity include only the urban underserved. There are more than a few rural underserved too, remember.

If you all think that you can't live without being in an ultra-high population (I guess you think you're gonna have lots of time to go clubbing and lots of money to eat out), then please choose Downstate. However, if you would like to spend the next four years at a very student-friendly university that is undergoing a large growth in its research and standing, while you're enjoying a great group of fellow students, then welcome!
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Let me in, Upstate. Let me in!
 
A couple of points about Upstate (and I'm not trying to dissuade anyone from coming here; I love it here): First, we've only got 15 counties that we get patients from, not 20 (though there are only about ten people in each of the other five counties). Second, because of the recommendations of the Berger Commission, pretty much regardless of how things work out, there will be 100-200 fewer beds that Upstate students and residents will have access to. The first point is admittedly nitpicking. The second point probably won't adversely effect anyone since it would come from consolidating Upstate and Crouse, hopefully making things more streamlined. However, as it stands now (and Upstate's fighting this), the Commission would have the hospital become private while the university would remain public (and that's bad).

As I said, these things shouldn't change anyone's decision to come here but they could somewhat alter how things work for your third and fourth years of school.

And let me just sneak one last thing in there: with the holidays, it wouldn't surprise me if the admissions committee became even more backlogged than it was before so if you're 5-6 weeks out, call but realize that not hearing isn't necessarily bad news.
 
Random said:
First, we've only got 15 counties that we get patients from, not 20 (though there are only about ten people in each of the other five counties). Second, because of the recommendations of the Berger Commission, pretty much regardless of how things work out, there will be 100-200 fewer beds that Upstate students and residents will have access to. The first point is admittedly nitpicking. The second point probably won't adversely effect anyone since it would come from consolidating Upstate and Crouse, hopefully making things more streamlined. However, as it stands now (and Upstate's fighting this), the Commission would have the hospital become private while the university would remain public (and that's bad).

As I said, these things shouldn't change anyone's decision to come here but they could somewhat alter how things work for your third and fourth years of school.
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Random, I hate when you're right! :laugh: I looked and got numbers ranging from 15-17 after I agreed with J_E's post. I figured as it was for relative illustrative purposes (plus I'm lazy), so I didn't issue an errata.

If anyone is interested in what could result from the Berger Commission's recommendations, here is a link: http://www.nysut.org/cps/rde/xchg/nysut/hs.xsl/newyorkteacher_5844.htm

As of now, a judge has placed a restraining order on moving forward with the commission's plans. It only holds through January 29,2007. I am sure there will be other legal challenges to it.
 
racerx said:
Random, I hate when you're right! :laugh: I looked and got numbers ranging from 15-17 after I agreed with J_E's post. I figured as it was for relative illustrative purposes (plus I'm lazy), so I didn't issue an errata.

If anyone is interested in what could result from the Berger Commission's recommendations, here is a link: http://www.nysut.org/cps/rde/xchg/nysut/hs.xsl/newyorkteacher_5844.htm

As of now, a judge has placed a restraining order on moving forward with the commission's plans. It only holds through January 29,2007. I am sure there will be other legal challenges to it.
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Yeah...on my interview tour one of the NY residents asked about the commission's suggestion to merge Crouse with University and make it a private hospital. The question was dodged readily by the tour guide. I mean...what could he really say, but it was funny how that worked. :laugh:
 
I would go with "if you think we're getting screwed, look at what some of the hospitals downstate are getting hit with." And RacerX, thanks; I guess this is my time being right for the month.
 
Random said:
A couple of points about Upstate (and I'm not trying to dissuade anyone from coming here; I love it here): First, we've only got 15 counties that we get patients from, not 20 (though there are only about ten people in each of the other five counties). Second, because of the recommendations of the Berger Commission, pretty much regardless of how things work out, there will be 100-200 fewer beds that Upstate students and residents will have access to. The first point is admittedly nitpicking. The second point probably won't adversely effect anyone since it would come from consolidating Upstate and Crouse, hopefully making things more streamlined. However, as it stands now (and Upstate's fighting this), the Commission would have the hospital become private while the university would remain public (and that's bad).

As I said, these things shouldn't change anyone's decision to come here but they could somewhat alter how things work for your third and fourth years of school.

And let me just sneak one last thing in there: with the holidays, it wouldn't surprise me if the admissions committee became even more backlogged than it was before so if you're 5-6 weeks out, call but realize that not hearing isn't necessarily bad news.
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Ugh, Status Page is working and it says that my decision has been made. Waitlist or Rejection...I guess I'm hoping for the Waitlist. I'll keep you all posted...
 
Today is Wednesday... hopefully some acceptances today?
 
Has anyone ever been accepted to Upstate by snail mail or only phone calls?
 
Jesse- did you get in? I am really pulling for you, because you seem to really want to go. I just interviewed on Monday, and loved it. I am really hoping that i get accepted there too!! Now I just have to wait 3 weeks.....
 
I, unfortunately, do not have my interview there til March 21st (sooooo late!!!). I applied there once already (early assurance, 2 years ago) so I've already interviewed there and absolutely loved it. I've already called them to tell them I would take *any* other time on *any* notice for an interview, but haven't gotten anything back. I'm just bummed now because I'm sure by 3/21, they're only going to be interviewing for waitlist. Ah well, a man is entitled to hope.
 
No phone call for me. 🙁

Oh well...argh🙁 🙁
 
My friend just called me and I almost passed out -- but then I saw the number. I'm sooooo frustrated
 
I have my interview coming up next week, am quite nervous. You guys have built up the school so much, so now I'm getting nervous and anxious. Anything I should watch out for as far as interviewing goes, any tips?
Ive been reviewing the SDN interview feedback and other sources as well, was just hoping to hear some other responses as well. GL to all.
 
DrCurious said:
I have my interview coming up next week, am quite nervous. You guys have built up the school so much, so now I'm getting nervous and anxious. Anything I should watch out for as far as interviewing goes, any tips?
Ive been reviewing the SDN interview feedback and other sources as well, was just hoping to hear some other responses as well. GL to all.
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Be prepared to talk about why you want to go into medicine and know your application very well. Both of my interviewers were very friendly and genuinely interested in details on my application - each interview lasted 1.5-2 hours and were very conversational. The interviews were laid-back and no stress. I felt that they really tried to get to know me. A few ethics questions from one of my interviewers, so have personal opinions and understanding of the major issues on some of the major ethical concepts. You will fall in love with the school and its friendly environment, I know it 🙂 Good luck! :luck:
 
by major ethical situations do you mean abortion, physcian assisted suicide etc. Or were u asked something else?
 
DrCurious said:
by major ethical situations do you mean abortion, physcian assisted suicide etc. Or were u asked something else?
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yes, exactly the ones above. An example would be "does a patient have a right to die?" Of course, you may not get any ethical questions at all, but better be prepared and be aware of your own views on these issues.
 
DrCurious said:
I have my interview coming up next week, am quite nervous. You guys have built up the school so much, so now I'm getting nervous and anxious. Anything I should watch out for as far as interviewing goes, any tips?
Ive been reviewing the SDN interview feedback and other sources as well, was just hoping to hear some other responses as well. GL to all.
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Don't worry too much! I had the best interviews there. Everyone there is reallly nice. Just be yourself and good luck!! :luck: :luck: :luck:
 
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