Supernatural: Villains WW Game Thread

[cubsrule4e]

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Lightly suspicious of her take on me but not enough to wolf lean her, just raise an eyebrow

This kind of hedge would get me yeeted in 5 minutes, yet she got 2 Likes on it

Somehow pleasey has managed to make these kind of statements acceptable for her gameplay. Kudos!

 

[bluestoat]

Well, I see no incentive for Cubs to take this view if he's wolfing or otherwise. Seems entirely counter to his self-interest.

He also hasn't changed his mind after a full day cycle. Kinda reminds me of a significantly less drunk version of my conviction that genny was a wolf.

 

[cubsrule4e]

Y'all I am d r a g g i n g this morning

Perk up buttercup!!! Tomorrow is my half day and I took thursday and friday off for beer and basketball!! Youll survive!

 

[bluestoat]

Yeet Samac

I haven't got a better view, it's interesting how out of sync those two (Cubs, Samac) are being, and I really, truly do not think Fluff is a wolf. But I am reminded of how easy she was for wolves to push in Bowwling.

 

[WildZoo]

Perk up buttercup!!! Tomorrow is my half day and I took thursday and friday off for beer and basketball!! Youll survive!

Cubbie pls, I'm tired

 

[Zenge142]

Yeet Samac

I haven't got a better view, it's interesting how out of sync those two (Cubs, Samac) are being, and I really, truly do not think Fluff is a wolf. But I am reminded of how easy she was for wolves to push in Bowwling.

So is your Samac vote based purely on her Fluff push?

 

[samac]

Toppish Fluff (been jiving pretty well with my thought progressions), Ace (feeling ok in PM chat so far based on the content brought up)
Bottomish Samac - I cant remember the last time we were at total odds like this but I dont like it. My two current best feeling players are her worst. That in itself gives me pause since I know Im a villager. There was the lack of any kind of emphatic response to my voting her, the lack of real pushing anyone except an easy noob target (not that shes pushing a noob, but that Ace was kind of the only one with any real pressure), gut feels.... basically the only thing in the entire thread that seemed "normal" samac was the whole page 2 PM discussion, and even that seemed lackluster for her standards. I did like her comeback of "OH MAYBE IF I YELL AT YOU THAT WILL MAKE WE VILLAGE AGAIN" (paraphrasing) in response to me saying she didnt really react to my voting her.

Not caught up on much of the thread today to follow others yet. I doubt MsP has even been around lol. You/kds havent really separated much from my initial potential v/v "argument" yesterday. I dont know what to think of Zenge. The opening post didnt bother me to the extent it did some people, but all he's done is "Hmm" react almost every post Ive made which is kinda weirding me out. InB4 he does it to this post as well.

Me responses were apparently actually in response to stoat. I came in a hour before yeet close because I spent time at the pool with votes on the board, unsure of where they really came from.
Did you bother to read any of the responses to stoator are you just assuming I didn’t react?

I will also not entertain a zenge yeet at this point in time. I don’t like your reads.

 

[samac]

Yeet Samac

I haven't got a better view, it's interesting how out of sync those two (Cubs, Samac) are being, and I really, truly do not think Fluff is a wolf. But I am reminded of how easy she was for wolves to push in Bowwling.

I didn’t push her in bowling.
I pushed her in marvel and I was right. I’ve seen echos of her play here. I don’t understand how she’s such a strong village read.
I feel like I’m living in the damn twilight zone.

 

[cubsrule4e]

I don't think that's why people were voting to yeet her. I personally was voting to yeet her because the way she mischaracterized my play in Bioshock, and trying to link it to this copy pasta felt twisty. Her play in general felt wolfy. The role reveal for me seemed off, in the sense that I felt like a wolf could have eaisly claimed what she did and then "killed" the people she was claiming to vig shoot. Especially not knowing the mechanics behind the cannibal modifier. If that makes kills potentially silent, that's even worse. If she had been a wolf, giving her license to kill, and control over the information of the flips could have been very problematic.

What about it do you feel was anti-village? AM certainly got a lot of mileage out of it, questioning people. It's generated discussion for people to analyze.

See this whole thing of the "Zenge reveal" seems more of a way to drum up sus on players without making it look nefarious. Fluff and please naturally still questioned why/what it means/the ramifications. Alley finds the copypasta thing which I still havent even looked into, but its seeming like this was just a completely meaningless, distracting post, even if it was intended as a joke. But its being USED to push other players for their "reaction" to it, and its making Zenge drop lower for me, regardless of wolf/3P status. Its a game with unusual mechanics, maybe max chaos is what certain players want.

 

[justafluff]

****
Hawaii is amazing and warm!! It’s already 80° here in March! There’s snow on the ground back in KS still 🥶

I would love to go to Alaska during the summer when it’s warmer and has longggg daylight hours. It’s too cold for me during the winter months!
****

Which island did you go to? I’m going to Kauai in July!!

 

[cubsrule4e]

Also theres a sense of Zenge/Samac "buddying" as theyve called it out before with me and zenge. Theyre both definitely after fluff and defending each other against some pushes. Still havent fully caught up but im for sure at least one of them, if not both, are non village.

 

[cubsrule4e]

I don’t think it’s crafty behavior though. There’s nothing there that is playing 4D chess.
She was basically like “I don’t like it”, spent a few posts pushing that narrative, and when it wasn’t working out backed off. That’s just testing the waters.

I mean this is pushing a narrative though. Even your subtle use of language in this one line is pushing a narrative.

“Zenge’s shady post”.

You could have said, Zenge’s post, or Zenge’s Copypasta, or the copypasta, but you specifically put in the word “shady” to color the conversion and the reader’s perspective on the subject, in order to paint things in a specific light, a darker light.

That does, by its nature create and reenforce a narrative.

Theyre even using the exact same language, "the narrative." Its just too much.

 

[Zenge142]

Also theres a sense of Zenge/Samac "buddying" as theyve called it out before with me and zenge. Theyre both definitely after fluff and defending each other against some pushes. Still havent fully caught up but im for sure at least one of them, if not both, are non village.

Can you tell me where you are exactly in your catch up?

 

[bluestoat]

So is your Samac vote based purely on her Fluff push?

Nope, also Cubs' vote. She feels iffy to me too.

 

[bluestoat]

See this whole thing of the "Zenge reveal" seems more of a way to drum up sus on players without making it look nefarious. Fluff and please naturally still questioned why/what it means/the ramifications. Alley finds the copypasta thing which I still havent even looked into, but its seeming like this was just a completely meaningless, distracting post, even if it was intended as a joke. But its being USED to push other players for their "reaction" to it, and its making Zenge drop lower for me, regardless of wolf/3P status. Its a game with unusual mechanics, maybe max chaos is what certain players want.

I like this too

 

[samac]

Theyre even using the exact same language, "the narrative." Its just too much.

2 people use similar language on thread?
Egad!
The horror!
I feel like after modding bowling you should know better.

 

[bluestoat]

I was very close to suggesting that we just stop discussing the Zenge post and outlying rxns because it seems to largely generate confusion and circular arguments, but refrained because... I felt it would get me caught in one of those arguments @cubsrule4e

 

[cubsrule4e]

Are you sure you’re not just giving yourself enough wiggle room to vote for me if a wagon starts without looking too suspicious.

Because it honestly reads more like a wolf covering their bases, giving yourself room to waffle.

This feels so aggressive towards a typically noob-friendly zenge. Maybe Im just starting down a tunnel now but I keep looking at his posts and feeling worse and worse.

 

[cubsrule4e]

2 people use similar language on thread?
Egad!
The horror!
I feel like after modding bowling you should know better.

You know what?

vote samac

 

[samac]

I was very close to suggesting that we just stop discussing the Zenge post and outlying rxns because it seems to largely generate confusion and circular arguments, but refrained because... I felt it would get me caught in one of those arguments @cubsrule4e

Why would we stop talking about something that generated content and reactions even if it was a trolly post?

 

[samac]

You know what?

vote samac

Hubbie, ya got this wrong.

 

[bluestoat]

Why would we stop talking about something that generated content and reactions even if it was a trolly post?

Because right now I think you're my likeliest wolf candidate, and you are using it for almost all of your vote justification?

 

[Zenge142]

Theyre even using the exact same language, "the narrative." Its just too much.

Holy crap. This is some nonsense.

YOU ARE 100% Cherry 🍒 picking this nonsense!

pushing that narrative

pushing a narrative

I mean this is pushing a narrative though

You're right. I guess I was.

1. Samac accuses Fluff of pushing a narrative.
2. Fluff says she’s not pushing a narrative.
3. I explain how Fluff, even if she doesn’t realize, is pushing a narrative the way Samac claims, based on the language she’s using.
4. EVEN FLUFF ADMITTED I WAS RIGHT!!!

For you to claim we’re using the “the same language” in a literal conversation about language, and what “pushing a narrative” means, is some how indicative of us “coordinating as a pack”, is not only absurd, it’s…how did you put it!? “TOO MUCH!!!!”

Yeet Cubs!!!

 

[samac]

Because right now I think you're my likeliest wolf candidate, and you are using it for almost all of your vote justification?

Why should that stop the discussion though?
It’s where my initial thought process started, it’s where I started my wolf read. I have had no reason to feel differently about her. Her last minute voting off any wagon didn’t help.

 

[cubsrule4e]

Cubbie pls, I'm tired

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I woke up at 4am to dripping sounds on my floor. 2 of my ceilings had water leak through during Ida. Got a new roof and was hoping that would fix the issue. Last night was hurricane like rain and while the guest room ceiling was dry as a bone, the living room area that was messed up before was dripping water again. So its clearly an issue with my balcony which the prior owner had enclosed with glass. Im gonna have to spend part of my days off caulking and recaulking every square inch of it. But I made it through today as did you! At least I get to sleep in the next 5 mornings.
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[bluestoat]

@Zenge142 Take a moment please and answer this: why would a wolf Cub push a misyeet on a village Samac, when he could just NK her?

Pushing a misyeet on her doesn't just seem like adding insult to injury... It also seems like something he knows would get him a LOT of pushback

 

[cubsrule4e]

Holy crap. This is some nonsense.

YOU ARE 100% Cherry 🍒 picking this nonsense!




1. Samac accuses Fluff of pushing a narrative.
2. Fluff says she’s not pushing a narrative.
3. I explain how Fluff, even if she doesn’t realize, is pushing a narrative the way Samac claims, based on the language she’s using.
4. EVEN FLUFF ADMITTED I WAS RIGHT!!!

For you to claim we’re using the “the same language” in a literal conversation about language, and what “pushing a narrative” means, is some how indicative of us “coordinating as a pack”, is not only absurd, it’s…how did you put it!? “TOO MUCH!!!!”

Yeet Cubs!!!

 

[cubsrule4e]

Hubbie, ya got this wrong.

We were already heading for divorce, girl. You and Zenge were meant to be.

 

[samac]

@Zenge142 Take a moment please and answer this: why would a wolf Cub push a misyeet on a village Samac, when he could just NK her?

Pushing a misyeet on her doesn't just seem like adding insult to injury... It also seems like something he knows would get him a LOT of pushback

Because I pushed a misyeet on him before, someone had already said I sounded weird on thread, so maybe he saw a payback opportunity?

 

[cubsrule4e]

Im getting out of here for a while before I get that "this is more than a game" feeling. Enjoy your evenings.

 

[samac]

We were already heading for divorce, girl. You and Zenge were meant to be.

😡
Out of curiosity, care to share who you ended up Pming with?

 

[bluestoat]

Because I pushed a misyeet on him before, someone had already said I sounded weird on thread, so maybe he saw a payback opportunity?

Yeah but wasn't that when he was trying to get you correctly yeeted? Idk this doesn't feel like wolfy motivation to me. I'd expect him to try to pocket you or glide under your radar.

 

[samac]

Yeah but wasn't that when he was trying to get you correctly yeeted? Idk this doesn't feel like wolfy motivation to me. I'd expect him to try to pocket you or glide under your radar.

I pushed him long before he ever wolfread me, he had a yeet avoidance. I’d even already got him yeeted once.

 

[cubsrule4e]

😡
Out of curiosity, care to share who you ended up Pming with?

See? Youre not even reading my posts. Village!Samac wouldnt have missed that.

 

[bluestoat]

I pushed him long before he ever wolfread me, he had a yeet avoidance. I’d even already got him yeeted once.

Then it seems even more unlikely for him to think it's wiser to attempt this than to just do an easier nightkill. Haven't you never been successfully misyeeted? And I think the wolfpack as a whole would take that into consideration.

 

[bluestoat]

😡
Out of curiosity, care to share who you ended up Pming with?

Ace I think

 

[samac]

See? Youre not even reading my posts. Village!Samac wouldnt have missed that.

VILLAGE SAMAC MISSES SOFTS ALL THE TIME LIKE WHAT

 

[bluestoat]

VILLAGE SAMAC MISSES SOFTS ALL THE TIME LIKE WHAT

He said it in his reads list tho

 

[cubsrule4e]

VILLAGE SAMAC MISSES SOFTS ALL THE TIME LIKE WHAT

IT WASNT A SOFT. IT WAS LITERALLY IN A READS LIST THAT STOUT ASKED FOR.

 

[samac]

Then it seems even more unlikely for him to think it's wiser to attempt this than to just do an easier nightkill. Haven't you never been successfully misyeeted? And I think the wolfpack as a whole would take that into consideration.

So anytime someone suspects me and puts pressure on me I’m a wolf. Got it.

Just to be clear, I haven’t been misyeeted. But I have been close.

 

[cubsrule4e]

@potentialsheltervet

What is your read on me currently?

 

[samac]

IT WASNT A SOFT. IT WAS LITERALLY IN A READS LIST THAT STOUT ASKED FOR.

I APPARENTLY GOT SO DISTRACTED AT FLUFF SOMEHOW BEING YOUR TOP VILLAGE READ AND MYSELF AT THE BOTTOM THAT I MISSED IT OKAY

 

[justafluff]

We were already heading for divorce, girl. You and Zenge were meant to be.

LOL at shorty's angery!!

 

[potentialsheltervet]

someone with unlimited rezzes to go with Alley's unlimited shots.

Then they would have to be wolfy, wouldn't they?

It’s already 80° here in March!

You would love Texas.

 

[bluestoat]

I'm still reading @Zenge142 as a neutral at worst, but I think he is fully pocketed

 

[potentialsheltervet]

Also theres a sense of Zenge/Samac "buddying" as theyve called it out before with me and zenge. Theyre both definitely after fluff and defending each other against some pushes. Still havent fully caught up but im for sure at least one of them, if not both, are non village.

Having wolfed with the two of them before I seriously doubt they would be this in sync if they were w/w. It would be suicide once one of them flips. I agree that one of them is likely not village but I don't think both of them are.

We were already heading for divorce, girl. You and Zenge were meant to be.

No, pls! Think of the children!

 

[bluestoat]

Having wolfed with the two of them before I seriously doubt they would be this in sync if they were w/w. It would be suicide once one of them flips. I agree that one of them is likely not village but I don't think both of them are.

No, pls! Think of the children!

Hon I think your werewolf!mom is snapping teeth because your village!dad told us they're pointy this game

 

[samac]

@justafluff what's your reads list look like?

 

[potentialsheltervet]

@potentialsheltervet

What is your read on me currently?

I've never seen a wolf!cubs, so take this with a grain of salt: village.

 

[potentialsheltervet]

Hon I think your werewolf!mom is snapping teeth because your village!dad told us they're pointy this game

I think you might be right but there's no need for divorce! One silver bullet later and you're right as rain.