*^~*~^* The Official 2006-2007 "What Are My Chances/Where to Apply" Thread *^~*~^* part 01

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this isn't WAMC post. i just need advice on the schools to apply to. 😕 i've been told to apply broadly with a 28S and 3.9....i have 22 on the list so far. check out my mdapps for the names. what do you guys think about adding wright state, SUNY Buffalo, someone suggested UMD but i don't know what that stands for. so where else should i apply? for some reason i don't feel like 22 schools is enough with my stats. suggestions/complaints/comments welcome. thanks
 
spospo said:
this isn't WAMC post. i just need advice on the schools to apply to. 😕 i've been told to apply broadly with a 28S and 3.9....i have 22 on the list so far. check out my mdapps for the names. what do you guys think about adding wright state, SUNY Buffalo, someone suggested UMD but i don't know what that stands for. so where else should i apply? for some reason i don't feel like 22 schools is enough with my stats. suggestions/complaints/comments welcome. thanks
I think 22 is enough for those stats...especially for that killer GPA! 🙂 Do the 22 schools include all of your state schools? Use MSAR or a bit of online research to check on any state schools on your list for which you would be an out-of-state (OOS) applicant and see what percentage of OOS applicants they generally accept. If they only accept a small percentage of OOS applicants, then I would consider other options if I were you.

Good :luck: with everything!
 
Haemulon said:
I would apply. 28 is still acceptable to get schools to consider you. I have a 7 PS, 13 VR, 10 BS (30R). So i'm dealing with the "7" issue to. I have received positive feedback and am going for it with the scores that I have. Best of luck! Only re-take if you think your sure of a good chance for improvement (scores can go down in other sections even if you pull up the 7).

This is good to hear, as I had a 7 PS from mis-bubbling, but I'm still considering retaking (29Q). Most schools I've seen take the best score in each section. So if you bring up your PS and everything else goes down, they will put it all together to make your best score. Am I correct in this?
 
I was wondering where I could potentialy applyi

GPA: 3.75 BCPM, 3.76 overall (NYU as a bio major)
MCAT: 29 R
GOod EC"s and LOR's. I was originally hoping for some top tiers, but my MCAT wasn't sufficient

You think if i retook the MCAT, got maybe a 31-33 i'd have a shot at some ivies or other top tier schools, or is it looking grim...
 
I am where i have a good chance of getting into.
Overall GPA 3.7
10 PS, 11 VR, 13 BS, WS: L

Do i have a got shot at John Hopkins or Yale? What about NYU?
 
graduated with 2.77 cumGPA 2.89 sciGPA... 36 hours of post-bacc work at a 4.0 for a 3.05 cumGPA, 3.23 sciGPA... previous MCAT of 30 with even break-down, retaking this August, so far getting mid to high 30s on practice scores. Should I even bother applying this cycle or should I wait until next year when my cumGPA will be above 3.2 and sciGPA will be above 3.4... I'm looking at my state schools especially Wayne St. and Michigan St. ... should I give it a shot this year, and if not will my improvement be great enough next year with more post-bacc work or should I enter an MS program ASAP ? I kind of have an idea of what I want to do, but I need validation of my plans, or someone to cut me down to size.
 
moe_4eva said:
This is good to hear, as I had a 7 PS from mis-bubbling, but I'm still considering retaking (29Q). Most schools I've seen take the best score in each section. So if you bring up your PS and everything else goes down, they will put it all together to make your best score. Am I correct in this?

No, my understanding is that each test is considered separately. Obviously they will be able to see all of your scores, so i'm sure that seeing high scores on different tests may make an impact on some. But each test should really be looked at on its own. If it is as you say, another way to look at it is that the lower scores on one administration would reduce the impact of higher scores on another. See, would cut both ways.
 
Hlam84 said:
I am where i have a good chance of getting into.
Overall GPA 3.7
10 PS, 11 VR, 13 BS, WS: L

Do i have a got shot at John Hopkins or Yale? What about NYU?

Solid numbers. Sure, you have a shot. But what happened with the WS??
 
marcusjones said:
I was wondering where I could potentialy applyi

GPA: 3.75 BCPM, 3.76 overall (NYU as a bio major)
MCAT: 29 R
GOod EC"s and LOR's. I was originally hoping for some top tiers, but my MCAT wasn't sufficient

You think if i retook the MCAT, got maybe a 31-33 i'd have a shot at some ivies or other top tier schools, or is it looking grim...

Unless you are a total gunner it is not a good idea to re-take just to get into an "Ivy". Labels like that arn't alway's as helpful as one may think. From my perspective, your numbers are good and you should be competitive at many schools. Only re-take if: 1.) You are sure that you can improve without dropping other sections and 2.) that the degree to which you improve will offset the handicap of being pushed back later in the application process.
 
you have a good point, but i was consistenly scoring in the 31-34 range on practice tests. I guess my question is, if the rest of my app is in place (EC's, LOR's) if i say can improve to even a 31, do you think i might have an opp to get into some top tier schools? I just dont want it for the name, its just that I want to see if i can open up some more options for myself. any feedback would be appreciated.
 
I think I can get into med school with -
P: 10
V: 13
B: 10
W: N
Undergrad GPA: 3.25; Science GPA: 3.57; Postbacc GPA: 3.89
Additional info at link.

But does anyone think I have a shot at an MSTP program with those kind of stats?
 
coriannegirl said:
I think I can get into med school with -
P: 10
V: 13
B: 10
W: N
Undergrad GPA: 3.25; Science GPA: 3.57; Postbacc GPA: 3.89
Additional info at link.

But does anyone think I have a shot at an MSTP program with those kind of stats?

Looks like you have a shot at it. Your postbacc definitely makes your applicaiton much more competitive. Best of luck to you.
 
coriannegirl said:
I think I can get into med school with -
P: 10
V: 13
B: 10
W: N
Undergrad GPA: 3.25; Science GPA: 3.57; Postbacc GPA: 3.89
Additional info at link.

But does anyone think I have a shot at an MSTP program with those kind of stats?
I think you have a good shot at MST programs with those stats. Your undergrad GPA is a bit on the low side, but your MCAT score is good and your postbacc GPA definitely helps. It seems like your research experience is solid, and that is certainly a key factor in the MSTP application.

You'll probably get more responses from current MSTP or MD/PhD students if you post this in the Physician Scientist forum as well.
 
scentimint said:
I think you have a good shot at MST programs with those stats. Your undergrad GPA is a bit on the low side, but your MCAT score is good and your postbacc GPA definitely helps. It seems like your research experience is solid, and that is certainly a key factor in the MSTP application.

You'll probably get more responses from current MSTP or MD/PhD students if you post this in the Physician Scientist forum as well.

I would, but I'm afraid of them. They usually yell at me when I post.
 
coriannegirl said:
I would, but I'm afraid of them. They usually yell at me when I post.
Seriously? Most of the people who I've talked to in that forum have been very nice.

Anyway, good :luck: whatever you decide to do 🙂
 
marcusjones said:
you have a good point, but i was consistenly scoring in the 31-34 range on practice tests. I guess my question is, if the rest of my app is in place (EC's, LOR's) if i say can improve to even a 31, do you think i might have an opp to get into some top tier schools? I just dont want it for the name, its just that I want to see if i can open up some more options for myself. any feedback would be appreciated.

Hmmmm. Tough choice. Obviously higher scores, other things being equal, will improve your chances. But even a 31 is still below the mean for some of the Ivy schools, so it would by no means make you a shoe-in. On the other hand, the high mean value still indicates that some people with lower scores get in. I honostly don't know. Why not call some of the schools that you are seriously looking at and ask them for advice? They could give you better and more individualized guidance.
 
DoctorNick83 said:
Do you think I can get into a UC?
-I am a CA resident
BCPM: 3.4
Overall: 3.4
MCAT 2004: 31M
MCAT 2006: 38M

See MDapplicants profile below for more information.
http://mdapplicants.com/viewprofile.php?myid=5481
holy impressive improvement in your MCAT score, batman! I'm not an expert on UC schools, but I think they tend to have higher MCAT averages, so you should be good in that category.
 
DoctorNick83 said:
Do you think I can get into a UC?
If you play around with the search function on mdapps, you'll find that a modest amount of people with 3.4s (or even a bit less) got interviews at all of the UCs. So at least it's possible for you to get through the pre-secondary screens at these schools. From there, it's anybody's guess...

(Although on a negative note, you'll also find that it looks like they're raising the bar as the last few years have gone by :scared: )
 
Haemulon said:
Solid numbers. Sure, you have a shot. But what happened with the WS??

I ask myself the same thing. I submitted for a rescore, hopefully there will be some improvement. But do you think the WS would affect me that much?
 
Can anyone comment on my chances of getting into the schools I applied to in my mdprofile? I tried using the MSAR to get a good idea of the amount of OOS they take and whether they were more number driven or holistic, but it'd be nice to have another opinion. Thanks in advance.
 
Finished sophmore year 3.1
overall gpa: 3.47, science gpa 3.47
major: bio/anthro.
Extracurriculars:
started a global health group on campus, volunteered at hospital then quit b/c found it useless, work study in infectious disease, habitat for humanity, college scholars, sorority.

Have traveled to countries in south america and africa and asia because found that my passion is international health. I don't mean to sound so paranoid and competitive but had a horrible year (family/personal problems affected gpa). I guess it depends on my mcat scores but i hate being so number driven especially when all i want to do is help that one women who is has no access to proper treatment. Does it depend that much on mcats, considering my low gpa. have taken physics, ochem, bio all last semester too. so have all my requirements out of the way. I really want to do a MD/MPH at NYU or Boston University or others who have a really good connection to global health. Is there any another universities I should be consdiering? Is there anything I can do to help my chances besides praying that everything goes alright next semester? 🙂

thanks.
 
jsong812 said:
Can anyone comment on my chances of getting into the schools I applied to in my mdprofile? I tried using the MSAR to get a good idea of the amount of OOS they take and whether they were more number driven or holistic, but it'd be nice to have another opinion. Thanks in advance.

Stellar GPA and good MCAT. Good research...could use a little more volunteering. Slightly low on EC's..

Don't know about the specific schools...just make sure you have an even spread of reach and realistic schools.


BTW, there seems to be a lot of take and not enough give in this relationship between asking for advice and giving it. How about every time you post your stats, you give someone advice too? That way people won't get left hanging 👍
 
potatoes said:
Finished sophmore year 3.1
overall gpa: 3.47, science gpa 3.47
major: bio/anthro.
Extracurriculars:
started a global health group on campus, volunteered at hospital then quit b/c found it useless, work study in infectious disease, habitat for humanity, college scholars, sorority.

Have traveled to countries in south america and africa and asia because found that my passion is international health. I don't mean to sound so paranoid and competitive but had a horrible year (family/personal problems affected gpa). I guess it depends on my mcat scores but i hate being so number driven especially when all i want to do is help that one women who is has no access to proper treatment. Does it depend that much on mcats, considering my low gpa. have taken physics, ochem, bio all last semester too. so have all my requirements out of the way. I really want to do a MD/MPH at NYU or Boston University or others who have a really good connection to global health. Is there any another universities I should be consdiering? Is there anything I can do to help my chances besides praying that everything goes alright next semester? 🙂

thanks.


I hate to say it, and your probably already know it, but I think it's going to come down to your MCAT score. You seem to have valid reasons for the drop in your GPA and your extracirricular are very strong. Doing well on the MCAT will show adcoms that you are not only dedicated to this profession but also that you are academically capable of handling the rigors of Med. School.
I am not sure about your chances w/ the MD/PhD program but I, too, am interested in this area. If anyone would be able to comment on the relative competitiveness of these programs and if you are automatically relegated to the regular M.D pool upon rejection, it'd be much appreciated. Thanks
 
I want to know where I should apply? I am a re-applicant. I had one interview this cycle and am still on the waitlist for that school. My GPA is 3.7- my first MCAT: 11-6-L-11 giving me 28L. In April I got 11-7-L-13 giving me 31L.
 
I want to know where I should apply? I am a re-applicant. I had one interview this cycle and am still on the waitlist for that school. My GPA is 3.7- my first MCAT: 11-6-L-11 giving me 28L. In April I got 11-7-L-13 giving me 31L.
My EC- research, shadow, volunteer, job, tutor, awards.
LOR: one from research, one from shadow, two from professors-science, non-science.

I cannot decide where to apply. Some of the schools I applied to last cycle told me that they don't consider applicants with L on WS- this was after the secondary application.
 
mjos22 said:


we have very similar #s. take a look at my mdapps. i know you won't necessarily fit all the schools on my list, but i am "applying broadly." i may also be adding SUNY Buffalo and Penn State (it may be on there already). hope this helps
 
Dr. C. Troy said:
Okay here's my profile in a (rather large) nutshell:

3.96 GPA, Honors Student, Honors Thesis etc. @ a Research 1 University
Member of Phi Beta Kappa
MCAT: 34S; 10 PS 12 VR 12 BS S WS (Yes, my PS sucks compared to the rest, but I hadn't taken physics before I took the MCAT, if I had, it would probably have been a 13, because I rock chemistry)

EC: ~1 Year of Labwork, where I also worked as a supervisor over 2 other students
Volunteering for a Congressperson's campaign
Organic/GC Tutor for 2 years
Kaplan MCAT teacher (currently in training)
Multiple Educational Outreach programs (My extracurriculars almost all focus on helping others learn, and advancing others' educations)
Internship with a local Plastic Surgeon
Over 300+ hours of volunteer work at a hospital in Highschool

Can I get into UCLA even though I'm not a CA resident? What about Stanford?

Those are the two main schools that interest me, and I want to know if it's realistic. Do I have a realistic chance at ED at either school? Stanford would probably be my first choice, just becauase I really like their structure and curriculum (and the name recognition is always nice).

I'm very competent when it comes to current political and medical issues, and am extremely confident about my interviewing abilities. I feel that I can do better than the vast majority of the people out there in an interview-style situation, just due to all the experience I've had with similar high-pressure situations, and the fact that I am a news-junkie, and would love to get ethical questions on things like abortion, euthanasia, or HMOs.

Shameless self-bumpage
 
Dr. C. Troy said:
Shameless self-bumpage

I think you definitely have a chance to score an interview at one/both. Your stats are competitive at both schools. Still it'll be tough. UCLA weighs in-state heavy, and Stanford you often have to have something above and beyond a good gpa/MCAT. Good luck.
 
The reason why I ask this question is because I'm low on funds and I don't want to dish out money for the AMCAS if I don't even have a decent chance. I'd like to apply to Baylor.

PS: 11
VR: 9
BS: 11
GPA: 3.90

My GPA is higher than the average (3.77) but my MCAT is lower (33.96). If you want to see my ECs, go to my link in my sig. I don't think I'm spectacular enough.
 
BlackBantie said:
The reason why I ask this question is because I'm low on funds and I don't want to dish out money for the AMCAS if I don't even have a decent chance. I'd like to apply to Baylor.

PS: 11
VR: 9
BS: 11
GPA: 3.90

My GPA is higher than the average (3.77) but my MCAT is lower (33.96). If you want to see my ECs, go to my link in my sig. I don't think I'm spectacular enough.


I think you should give it a shot, because your mcat isn't at the "will be automatically cut without anybody looking at your application" level, and I think your ECs seem solid, even if you haven't cured cancer. You never know what might catch somebody's eye.
 
Ok, somebody do me, please. 3.45 GPA (4.0+ post-bac), Philosophy degree from an Ivy, 35 MCAT. A few years of work experience at a hospital in an administrative role, as well as a good post-college internship in policy research at a think tank. Good recs from science teachers and bosses. No significant volunteering or research, mostly since I just haven't had time this past year with work and school both, and I wasn't on a pre-med track in college. Some random EC's in college, but nothing that I spent hundreds of hours doing or that won me any awards. I hope to start doing some clinical volunteering work immediately, so at least I can talk about that during interviews. Also, I can write a very good essay, and I interview well.

Any suggestions for what range of schools I should be looking at? I feel like my chances are especially random. My GPA/MCAT/EC's aren't strong enough to make me a good candidate at most top 50 schools, but like other people have said, you never know what might catch one person's eye.
 
I guess this can't hurt.

I have approx. 3.75 cum GPA and 3.79 BCPM from the honors college and 30Q MCAT (11PS, 10VR, 9BS). I've done clinical volunteering, lots of research and tutoring and various on-campus activities. What private schools do you think I could get into? Any chance for CA schools? Ivy League schools? Thanks.
 
You could try Loma Linda. Just claim that you love Jesus more than they do, and you should be in.

Other than that, you'd need some amazing experience to get into a CA school with those (good, yet not great) scores. You should definitely be able to get into med school though. I'd still apply to the Ivy leagues, I just wouldn't get your hopes up too high, though your chances increase with each Ivy League school you apply to.

EDIT: I just realized you were a CA resident. Your chances are reasonably good just about anywhere but UCSF for CA schools.
 
GPA: 3.45 from Texas A&M, Biomedical Science major, did the honors classes, GPA affected by personal medical issues...
MCAT: 31Q (P10, 10V, 11B, Q WS)
Texas Resident
ECs: two shadowing experiences, 3 research projects finished, 1 research project underway currently, camp counselor, honor societies, leadership development organization, 1 year working in organic lab, 1 year working with radioactive materials lab, pre-med society...I think those are the big ones

Submitted AMCAS and TMDSAS apps on 6/15, still waiting to be verified though

Schools:
UT Southwestern (Top Choice)
Baylor (tied with UT Southwestern for Top Choice)
Texas A&M
Texas Tech
UT Houston
UT Galveston
UT San Antonio
University of Washington
Mayo
University of Pittsburgh

(I know UPitt and Mayo for example I probably don't have a good shot at, but I chose them because I was getting mid to high 30s on practice tests.)

Anyone have suggestions as to schools to add? What do you think about my competitiveness for my chosen schools?
 
vmc303 said:
Ok, somebody do me, please. 3.45 GPA (4.0+ post-bac), Philosophy degree from an Ivy, 35 MCAT. A few years of work experience at a hospital in an administrative role, as well as a good post-college internship in policy research at a think tank. Good recs from science teachers and bosses. No significant volunteering or research, mostly since I just haven't had time this past year with work and school both, and I wasn't on a pre-med track in college. Some random EC's in college, but nothing that I spent hundreds of hours doing or that won me any awards. I hope to start doing some clinical volunteering work immediately, so at least I can talk about that during interviews. Also, I can write a very good essay, and I interview well.

Any suggestions for what range of schools I should be looking at? I feel like my chances are especially random. My GPA/MCAT/EC's aren't strong enough to make me a good candidate at most top 50 schools, but like other people have said, you never know what might catch one person's eye.


How is a 35 MCAT not enough to make you a good candidate at a top 50 school? 😕
 
theaggie07 said:
GPA: 3.45 from Texas A&M, Biomedical Science major, did the honors classes, GPA affected by personal medical issues...
MCAT: 31Q (P10, 10V, 11B, Q WS)
Texas Resident
ECs: two shadowing experiences, 3 research projects finished, 1 research project underway currently, camp counselor, honor societies, leadership development organization, 1 year working in organic lab, 1 year working with radioactive materials lab, pre-med society...I think those are the big ones

Submitted AMCAS and TMDSAS apps on 6/15, still waiting to be verified though

Schools:
UT Southwestern (Top Choice)
Baylor (tied with UT Southwestern for Top Choice)
Texas A&M
Texas Tech
UT Houston
UT Galveston
UT San Antonio
University of Washington
Mayo
University of Pittsburgh

(I know UPitt and Mayo for example I probably don't have a good shot at, but I chose them because I was getting mid to high 30s on practice tests.)

Anyone have suggestions as to schools to add? What do you think about my competitiveness for my chosen schools?
Gig'em - Fightin' Aggie class of '04 here.

Look at GW, Temple, Tulane (maybe?), Rosalin Franklin, tell me what you think.

31 & 3.45 are below average at SW and Baylor but you probably stand a good shot at other TX schools. Do you interview well? What other clinical exp do you have besides the shadowing? Was the "leadership development" a FLOW (like Assist or something, I forget the others)?
 
Hey guys, thanks in advance for the advice.

Here Go's:
32Q MCAT (11ps 10 VR 11BS)
3.59 GPA overall 3.63 Science
Honors Program
CA resident
EC's: Reasearch, Clinical work at a hospital, executive leadership team at the hospital for the volunteer program, large amount of community service, various awards and scholarships, work experience (non-clinical)
I am following the advice of peers, friends and counselors and I am casting a wide net, but I would like to know what my chances are at CA med schools. I applied to all of them. I specifically want to know about Stanford, USC, UCI and UCLA. Also what are my chances at Ivey Leagues like Harvard.

Thanks so much for the Help.
 
coco11 said:
How is a 35 MCAT not enough to make you a good candidate at a top 50 school? 😕

Er, you're right of course, what I meant was the GPA/MCAT/EC combo. MCAT's are up there, but GPA and EC's are somewhat lacking.
 
DoctorNick83 said:
Looks like you have a shot at it. Your postbacc definitely makes your applicaiton much more competitive. Best of luck to you.

Has anyone heard from admissions folks how much post-bac work matters?

My post-bac GPA is much higher than my undergrad GPA, and it's all sciences, and it's at an ivy, but I'm still not sure of how it's going to be evaluated.

Does it just effect your overall GPA, or do schools tend to view them separately?

Thanks!
 
Hi,
I will submit my AMCAS application this weekend and I need help to pick out schools. I am an undergrad at a prestigious college (US News top 10), have 3.8 GPA in biology with mostly honors classes and a 40P on the MCAT (12V, 14B, 14P). The verbal is not as high as others because I am an international student who has recently moved to the US for college. I have some academic awards (student marshal, dean's list), small leadership positions, community service, 3 years of volunteering experience in hospital. I have also participitated in a competitive research program in college doing cancer research, but I do not have any publications. I have very strong recommendation letters from my PI's and professors according to my advisors. I'm also on a student visa and do not hold a green card. So what do you guys think are my chances of admission into the following schools?

harvard
johns hopkins
washington st.louis
harvard
yale
stanford
ucsf
columbia
cornell

should i apply anywhere else as a safety school? any comments would be welcome. thanks
 
kelpy said:
Hi,
I will submit my AMCAS application this weekend and I need help to pick out schools. I am an undergrad at a prestigious college (US News top 10), have 3.8 GPA in biology with mostly honors classes and a 40P on the MCAT (12V, 14B, 14P). The verbal is not as high as others because I am an international student who has recently moved to the US for college. I have some academic awards (student marshal, dean's list), small leadership positions, community service, 3 years of volunteering experience in hospital. I have also participitated in a competitive research program in college doing cancer research, but I do not have any publications. I have very strong recommendation letters from my PI's and professors according to my advisors. I'm also on a student visa and do not hold a green card. So what do you guys think are my chances of admission into the following schools?

harvard
johns hopkins
washington st.louis
harvard
yale
stanford
ucsf
columbia
cornell

should i apply anywhere else as a safety school? any comments would be welcome. thanks

I don't think U Chicago is USNEWS top 10 although it's a pretty good school.
Anyways, to be honest your chances of getting into those schools are pretty
slim, if you don't have publication. I know this from being a international student until 2 years ago and seeing my international friends that went thought the process. one of my friend had 3.7 GPA/ 36 MCAT with two publication in a decent impact factor journal but was still rejected from every school he applied. btw I'm also from a pretty good undergrad school.
If you are a Canadian, you have better chances as international than others, but if not, you should apply to many schools, perhaps almost 30 to get in. I know it sounds harsh, but it's the reality
 
Hi guys,
first thanx a lot for taking your time to answer to our such important questions.
I am not sure I am supposed to ask these questions here, but I need answers to them now.
1. I am gonna have B.S in nursing by the time i am applying to med school. I heard that as a nurse I will have a little chance to get in, as that's totally different philosophy and resp. than docs. it didn't make sense for me. what do you think, am I decreasing my chances of getting in by becoming a nurse?
2. Do I still need a clinical experience, although I will have enough expereince as a nurse. What do u suggest for my extracurricular activites?
3. all my premed sciences from com colleges. Is it too bad? may be I sould take some biochem classes from university?
4. GPA: 3.8, I'll try to keep up like that.
5. MCAT: haven't taken yet
 
malika said:
Hi guys,
first thanx a lot for taking your time to answer to our such important questions.
I am not sure I am supposed to ask these questions here, but I need answers to them now.
1. I am gonna have B.S in nursing by the time i am applying to med school. I heard that as a nurse I will have a little chance to get in, as that's totally different philosophy and resp. than docs. it didn't make sense for me. what do you think, am I decreasing my chances of getting in by becoming a nurse?
2. Do I still need a clinical experience, although I will have enough expereince as a nurse. What do u suggest for my extracurricular activites?
3. all my premed sciences from com colleges. Is it too bad? may be I sould take some biochem classes from university?
4. GPA: 3.8, I'll try to keep up like that.
5. MCAT: haven't taken yet
2. Try some shadowing. Show that you know specifically what doctors do as opposed to nurses. There are several nurses who post so I'll let them offer more specfic advice.
 
Anastasis said:
2. Try some shadowing. Show that you know specifically what doctors do as opposed to nurses. There are several nurses who post so I'll let them offer more specfic advice.
how do you guys shadow? hospitals I volunteered don't even let me be close to the patient. Is private offices good for shadowing? thanx
 
malika said:
how do you guys shadow? hospitals I volunteered don't even let me be close to the patient. Is private offices good for shadowing? thanx

private offices are good....experience is experience. you are observing the daily lives of physicians, which is still medicine.
 
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