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friedchickencurry said:
I don't how late you consider late but I submitted secondaries between 9/1-9/19 for TMDSAS
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Same, with some stragglers after that time range. Good to know I’m not alone🙂
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@wysdoc I saw that someone said their family member had pre-matched at Dell recently, but I noticed that the tracker wasn't updated. Are we assuming that person may have just been not telling the truth and that's why it was not included?
 
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TheDeadrok said:
@wysdoc I saw that someone said their family member had pre-matched at Dell recently, but I noticed that the tracker wasn't updated. Are we assuming that person may have just been not telling the truth and that's why it was not included?
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I thought I had added Dell to the list we have but I will go check. I think it was a credible report
 
With the exception of Thanksgiving week, do IIs usually continue at the same pace as they did in October? Or do things begin to slow down around November 1st? Is it true that there are typically big waves after application submission ends?
 
winniedapoop said:
is it worth submitting a letter of interest for tmdsas?
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Before interview? No, unless you have something new and significant to add.
Any letters would go to the individual school, not to TMDSAS in general
 
Question on deferred enrollment: if I decide to request one what time frame should I ask for it? And is it likely that the deferment would be approved as long as I have a good reason?

I have a prematch A from my only II school so far and only waiting to hear back from one other school I applied for II (literally only applied to 2 schools LOL). So school list is pretty much finalized by end of this month. Have a personal situation that may make it better to start a year later. Thanks in advance!
 
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HRC1986 said:
Question on deferred enrollment: if I decide to request one what time frame should I ask for it? And is it likely that the deferment would be approved as long as I have a good reason?

I have a prematch A from my only II school so far and only waiting to hear back from one other school I applied for II (literally only applied to 2 schools LOL). So school list is pretty much finalized by end of this month. Have a personal situation that may make it better to start a year later. Thanks in advance!
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Requests to defer entry to medical school after you have been offered admission are considered on a case-by-case basis. If they approve you to do this, it will be for one year only.
In your case, you will need to write to, or set up a meeting with, an admissions director at your school to explain the rationale for deferring your start by one year.
It's up to you whether you want to do this before Match Day or wait until after - in case you get interviewed by school #2 they are the school you would need to speak with.
When deferring matriculation you will also be committing to them that you will not be using this year to reapply to other medical schools - if you do that, you will lose the spot you deferred.
 
Is the timeline different than Texas residents for OOS TMDSAS applicants who already interviewed at a few Texas medical schools? When (if it is possible to know) should I expect to hear back?
 
Hozier said:
Is the timeline different than Texas residents for OOS TMDSAS applicants who already interviewed at a few Texas medical schools? When (if it is possible to know) should I expect to hear back?
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Different schools have different policies but most schools dont differentiate in giving prematches having separate dates for each group. Baylor seems to be the only one with specific later dates than IS for OOS.
 
Hozier said:
Is the timeline different than Texas residents for OOS TMDSAS applicants who already interviewed at a few Texas medical schools? When (if it is possible to know) should I expect to hear back?
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Even though OOS applicants don’t participate in our TMDSAS Match Day, which gives all Texans an answer one way or another on Feb 14, a couple of our important dates will still apply to you:
a) All TMDSAS school interviews will be over by January 31. If you haven’t interviewed at a school by then, you’re done.
b) you could be told by a TMDSAS school that you’re on a WL. In that case you could be accepted off the WL any time up until the school starts orientation in summer 2025.

Because each TMDSAS school limits OOS enrollment to 10%, how many OOS people can get in from a WL will depend on how many have already committed to that school.
 
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Hello! I have been very fortunate and am very grateful to have received pre-match offers from two schools I interviewed at. One is my top choice (school A) and the other school (school B) is one I really liked as well (but not one I would end up choosing over my top choice). I accepted both prematch offers but didn't realize until today that school B has a non-refundable deposit due in 3 days. The deposit is not super substantial and is an amount I could pay but given that I already have an acceptance to my top choice school A that I would rank above school B, is there any reason to pay the deposit for school B? I was waiting to see if any other schools would offer me scholarships but given that school B didn't offer me anything with my offer, I am most likely thinking the opportunity to apply for scholarships would only come up after the match. Thank you for any advice!
 
vegyaki said:
Hello! I have been very fortunate and am very grateful to have received pre-match offers from two schools I interviewed at. One is my top choice (school A) and the other school (school B) is one I really liked as well (but not one I would end up choosing over my top choice). I accepted both prematch offers but didn't realize until today that school B has a non-refundable deposit due in 3 days. The deposit is not super substantial and is an amount I could pay but given that I already have an acceptance to my top choice school A that I would rank above school B, is there any reason to pay the deposit for school B? I was waiting to see if any other schools would offer me scholarships but given that school B didn't offer me anything with my offer, I am most likely thinking the opportunity to apply for scholarships would only come up after the match. Thank you for any advice!
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It sounds like you wouldn’t go to school B at all. The deposit is to save your seat so if you won’t go to the school, I wouldn’t pay for it.
 
vegyaki said:
Hello! I have been very fortunate and am very grateful to have received pre-match offers from two schools I interviewed at. One is my top choice (school A) and the other school (school B) is one I really liked as well (but not one I would end up choosing over my top choice). I accepted both prematch offers but didn't realize until today that school B has a non-refundable deposit due in 3 days. The deposit is not super substantial and is an amount I could pay but given that I already have an acceptance to my top choice school A that I would rank above school B, is there any reason to pay the deposit for school B? I was waiting to see if any other schools would offer me scholarships but given that school B didn't offer me anything with my offer, I am most likely thinking the opportunity to apply for scholarships would only come up after the match. Thank you for any advice!
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If you want to keep all your options open (including a chance for a scholarship at school B) then pay the small deposit.
If you miss the deposit deadline for school B they can possibly take back their offer, when you don’t follow up.
If you pay the deposit you can hold both schools as possibilities until Match Day.
Think it over carefully
 
I listed a class on my primary application for the fall 2024 semester that I ended up dropping before the semester started. Should I remove that class from my TMDSAS? I wasn't required to take the class to meet any requirements for any schools or for my degree. I couldn't find an answer to this question anywhere else, so asking it here
 
christopherincorporated said:
I listed a class on my primary application for the fall 2024 semester that I ended up dropping before the semester started. Should I remove that class from my TMDSAS? I wasn't required to take the class to meet any requirements for any schools or for my degree. I couldn't find an answer to this question anywhere else, so asking it here
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you can message TMDSAS about how to change it,
Or you can do nothing because schools know that future class plans don’t always work out and may change. As long as it wasn’t a requirement they won’t care, and when you send your final transcript to the school that accepts you, they will see your actual course list
 
One more deadline tomorrow (Nov 15th)
Nov 15 is the deadline for TMDSAS supporting materials.
These include things like letters of evaluation, CASPer scores, and MCAT score reports, and many Secondary essays.

Some of the schools have a slightly later deadline for submission of your Secondary essays:
UTRGV 11/22
Texas Tech Lubbock 11/30
Texas Tech El Paso 12/1
Dell 11/30
U of Houston Fertitta 12/1
TCU 12/15
SHSU 12/19
Check that you have everything turned in!
 
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wysdoc said:
One more deadline tomorrow (Nov 15th)
Nov 15 is the deadline for TMDSAS supporting materials.
These include things like letters of evaluation, CASPer scores, and MCAT score reports, and many Secondary essays.

Some of the schools have a slightly later deadline for submission of your Secondary essays:
Texas Tech El Paso 12/1
Texas Tech Lubbock 11/30
Dell 11/30
U of Houston Fertitta 12/1
TCU 12/15
SHSU 12/19
Check that you have everything turned in!
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UT RGV is also taking secondaries still until 11/22 11:59 CT!
(missed the memo for the 2-week deadline only stated on MSAR - don't come for me, I know I'm behind😭)
 
When should we fill out fafsa after prematching? Is it worth it to still fill out? My pcp insists it’s necessary for medical school.
 
quinonoa said:
When should we fill out fafsa after prematching? Is it worth it to still fill out? My pcp insists it’s necessary for medical school.
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The 2025–26 Free Application for Federal Student Aid (FAFSA®) form will be available to the public on or before Dec. 1, 2024, so i think you aren't late at all! i think your pcp is right ... it is necessary.
 
troy&abedintheAM said:
The 2025–26 Free Application for Federal Student Aid (FAFSA®) form will be available to the public on or before Dec. 1, 2024, so i think you aren't late at all! i think your pcp is right ... it is necessary.
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Filing your FAFSA is necessary, not because they are going to be using your parents income to determine your aid (Graduate federal loans look at you as an adult) but that the med school needs it to help you apply for loans based on the cost of attendance at their school.
 
If I already interviewed at my top choice school, would I be recommended to write a letter of intent with some updates to my application as well? Or should I just wait it out?
 
CYaL8Er01 said:
Of course. However, would writing a LOI help regarding prematches?
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Most schools will accept a letter of intent after you have interviewed.
I don't have a strong sense that these are as important in Texas as for some AMCAS schools.
Do what you feel is best to make this school aware that they are your first choice, why you are a good fit, and what you look forward to participating in at their school.
 
wysdoc said:
Most schools will accept a letter of intent after you have interviewed.
I don't have a strong sense that these are as important in Texas as for some AMCAS schools.
Do what you feel is best to make this school aware that they are your first choice, why you are a good fit, and what you look forward to participating in at their school.
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would it be advisable to send a LOI (no updates) after an interview to a highly ranked school like UTSW or Baylor? or is that, frankly, kinda dumb cause the internal response would probably be, "of course you want to attend here, we're utsw/baylor."
 
THES published a brief summary of the total numbers of applicants over the last 4 years.
There were 6827 med school applicants this year, a 6% increase over last year and 100 more than the highest previous number in 2022.

Read all about it:
www.txhes.com

Counting on the Future: TMDSAS Applications and Texas’s Healthcare Workforce

The Texas Medical and Dental Schools Application Service (TMDSAS) has published its data for the 2025 application cycle, offering a snapshot of the pipeline for future healthcare professionals.
www.txhes.com
 
It's November, y'all 🦃 🍗🥟🌽🥧🍷 and the heck with 🥗🥙🥬🥒

What does that mean for our TMDSAS applicants?

1. The TMDSAS deadline for primary applications was Nov 1, and the deadline for supporting materials was Nov 15. Schools who have been holding off on interview invitations "just to see what else will be coming in with later applicants" now have all their applications for this year.

2. Schools that had classified you as "maybe we'll interview you" could now decide you measure up well and will invite you.
There's nothing to do for now, though, but
-more waiting
-check your email & junk mail daily
-and if you're still in college, be sure to upload those lovely Fall 2024 grades to your TMDSAS portal.

3. We have seen pre-match offers from most schools, but still none from U of Houston Fertitta or UTMB.
Don't feel that you must have a pre-match offer! 6 out of 7 who have interviewed will not receive any pre-matches.
Please feel relief if you are one of the lucky ones with a pre-match, and not more pressure.

4. Regarding #3, applying to medical schools is not like playing Pokémon. You don't have to collect them all. Please try to keep it in perspective and be grateful for the opportunities you get.

5. The toughest challenge you will face next is sitting at your Thanksgiving dinner table with lots of relatives who know nothing about how long the application cycle is asking "Did you get into medical school? Oh. Why not?"
The grilling you got at your interviews was nothing compared to the intense scrutiny here!

Practice your lines: "With medical school applications, I won't know for sure until February. (or April for AMCAS).
I'll be sure to share the news later."
And then change the subject! Or take the last muffin!
 
Would a school ever offer an interview invite through the portal only without sending a corresponding email? Is this valid paranoia or am I just being neurotic?
 
friedchickencurry said:
Would a school ever offer an interview invite through the portal only without sending a corresponding email? Is this valid paranoia or am I just being neurotic?
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Always check spam regularly.

if using gmail, set your mail view to all mail.
 
Now that Thanksgiving has passed and I’ve yet to receive any II, should I start officially planning my gap years? From what I’ve read, it seems that very few II go out between now and January?
 
futureobgyny said:
Now that Thanksgiving has passed and I’ve yet to receive any II, should I start officially planning my gap years? From what I’ve read, it seems that very few II go out between now and January?
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There is still a lot of time. An idea I was thinking is if you are okay going out of state DO, you could try to make a final squeeze to a oos program so you do not become a reapplicant, or try to join one of those masters to medical school programs. Like I said earlier, there is still a good chunk of time.
 
roastbeef02 said:
Anyone else have to explain the match system over a dozen times to family members this weekend lol
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"ok so where are your acceptances"
- "no it doesn't work like that most people have to wait till match day"
"..."
"ok but my aunt's cousin's dog's bicycle's swim teacher's fiduciary's alligator's sister's niece got accepted into medical school in October?" (it was PharmD school)
 
anonymous1234556 said:
There is still a lot of time. An idea I was thinking is if you are okay going out of state DO, you could try to make a final squeeze to a oos program so you do not become a reapplicant, or try to join one of those masters to medical school programs. Like I said earlier, there is still a good chunk of time.
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I would disagree. There really is not that much time left, as there really is only a month left of II's to go out, and many schools are already close to finished if not completely done (UTMB). No one should be expecting an II wave as big as an August or September II wave.
 
Just my .02 but reapping is as much of an emotional process as it is a logistical one. I was a reapp and held onto hope until like Feb. Then I got my **** together (and thankfully have an A now). So honestly the answer is more whenever you’re ready, but probably before March at the latest (including AMCAS)? If you feel prepping to reapp now will help you have that sense of agency we’ve all lost through this process, go for it. But if you feel super laggy about it, defeated, burnt out—take a breather. It’s okay to grieve. Alternatively, being delulu as the solulu.
 
PolarIceLongLastingFlavor said:
I would disagree. There really is not that much time left, as there really is only a month left of II's to go out, and many schools are already close to finished if not completely done (UTMB). No one should be expecting an II wave as big as an August or September II wave.
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I agree. I just was saying there is still a lot of time to pivot off of TMDSAS because I know some DO schools that continue to offer interviews well into march.
 
Would it be a bad look if I didn't submit this Fall 2024 Semester's grades or is it something that I have to do?
 
FlyingJit said:
Would it be a bad look if I didn't submit this Fall 2024 Semester's grades or is it something that I have to do?
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It isn't required but if accepted to a school they will eventually see them
If your grades fell off the cliff to Cs Ds or Fs it could affect you because final enrollment in a med school is contingent on a few things like continued performance in college towards your degree and passing your background check.
 
If I get an interview after being pre-matched, would rejecting the interview invitation affect my chances of being accepted to other schools I've interviewed at (those higher on my list)? Given that TMDSAS schools see what other programs you have interviewed at, would they think you are more competitive if they saw you did more interviews?

(sorry for the overthinking)
 
LWRey said:
If I get an interview after being pre-matched, would rejecting the interview invitation affect my chances of being accepted to other schools I've interviewed at (those higher on my list)? Given that TMDSAS schools see what other programs you have interviewed at, would they think you are more competitive if they saw you did more interviews?

(sorry for the overthinking)
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If you are going to be ranking that school lower on your list than your prematch, it would be better to reject the invitation so that another person can get your spot. No point in interviewing if you know 100% you won't attend that school. To my knowledge this should have 0 impact on how well your application fares at other programs.
 
LWRey said:
If I get an interview after being pre-matched, would rejecting the interview invitation affect my chances of being accepted to other schools I've interviewed at (those higher on my list)? Given that TMDSAS schools see what other programs you have interviewed at, would they think you are more competitive if they saw you did more interviews?

(sorry for the overthinking)
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Id say do not reject the invite if you even have a 1% chance of wanting to attend that school. You can change your mind later, but once the invite is gone, the opportunity is gone.
 
LWRey said:
If I get an interview after being pre-matched, would rejecting the interview invitation affect my chances of being accepted to other schools I've interviewed at (those higher on my list)? Given that TMDSAS schools see what other programs you have interviewed at, would they think you are more competitive if they saw you did more interviews?

(sorry for the overthinking)
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It all depends. There have been people who had a prematch which they would definitely rank higher during match than all the other other schools they have interviewed at or any new interviews they are getting this late in the process, they turned them down.

Usually if you are considered a reach for the school and they are calling you late in the process (eg: you have LM of 77 and school averages 69) they are just trying to see if you would be interested.
 
Does anyone know if there is a legitimate difference between Long and McGovern? I am deciding which to rank higher and although I know Long may technically be ranked higher, from the interview days I could not seem to find significant differences in curriculum or culture. I would rank Long higher if it truly will set me up better for a competitive residency but would greatly prefer to live in Houston due to ties to the area.
 
tmdsaswizard said:
Does anyone know if there is a legitimate difference between Long and McGovern? I am deciding which to rank higher and although I know Long may technically be ranked higher, from the interview days I could not seem to find significant differences in curriculum or culture. I would rank Long higher if it truly will set me up better for a competitive residency but would greatly prefer to live in Houston due to ties to the area.
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You have access to lot more resources in McGovern being part of TMC which is almost the largest medical center in the world. Curriculum, aka classes are mostly irrelevant and its the level of hospitals, research faculty etc who can make the difference.
 
wysdoc said:
It isn't required but if accepted to a school they will eventually see them
If your grades fell off the cliff to Cs Ds or Fs it could affect you because final enrollment in a med school is contingent on a few things like continued performance in college towards your degree and passing your background check.
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I just might end up with a B here or there so nothing crazy. I just wanted to make sure uploading them or not would make a difference for their match ranking.
 
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