The Under 3.0 Club part 02

[BecomingDentist]

Hey you guys! I am so glad I found this group because I honestly was about to give up on dental school, which would be super heart breaking because of how in love I am with the profession. I go to UT Austin and my current GPA is a 2.99 and my science GPA is a 2.5 (calculus KILLED me, my professor was new and had us doing complex coding and designing a short cartoon of a roller-coaster??, class average including mine was a D, needless to say he was fired and never heard of again.) I am planning on taking more of my science classes at another easier 4 year university after I graduate from UT (graduating a year early), and I was wondering if those grades would be incorporated in my overall GPA and science GPA. As in, once they open my application, would they firstly see my sub 3,0 GPA and then a complete calculated GPA, or would my UT GPA not show and my entire overall GPA of all classes would be on file? I'm just concerned they will filter me out once they see the 2.5. Sorry if this all sounds confusing, I tend to verbally vomit when I'm anxious

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[BecomingDentist]

@malsmin your DAT is pretty good and you're at least in the 3.0 range, I would definitely apply to a good amount of schools to increase your chances, especially schools accepting lower range GPA's. If the average accepted GPA for a school is around a 3.2-3.4, that means that there's a possibility of half of the class applying with lower GPA's than that! Make really strong personal statements, polish your EC's and Shadowing hours on your application, and you should have a decent chance if you apply to the right/many schools!

 

[malsmin]

@malsmin your DAT is pretty good and you're at least in the 3.0 range, I would definitely apply to a good amount of schools to increase your chances, especially schools accepting lower range GPA's. If the average accepted GPA for a school is around a 3.2-3.4, that means that there's a possibility of half of the class applying with lower GPA's than that! Make really strong personal statements, polish your EC's and Shadowing hours on your application, and you should have a decent chance if you apply to the right/many schools!

Thank you for your encouragement! I did shadowing for 200+ hr (2 years) and 2 months of shadowing from out of country. I got 4 LOC from my science professors, Research, and DDS. I did some volunteers and other ECs. I will apply my application on June when it opens. Do you think is it enough? Also, do you mind if I ask you about what schools accepted the average 3.2-3.4 GPA?

 

[sweetpeeas]

Will always be rooting for the UNDER 3.0 CLUB! We are more than the sum of our mistakes -- we are born to improve and achieve something great!

Completed a formal post-bac, GPA: 4.0
DAT (AA/TS/PAT/Reading/any section below a 17): 21/21/23/19/none

Accepted at Roseman University!
Interview invite: 1/29
Notified of Acceptance: Via call & email on 2/2 (best day of my life )

There is always hope, so please...

Never give up on your dream
No matter how bleak the future may seem
Remain bold, passionate, and sincere
The prize you worked so hard for is near​

(I dabbled into poetry, which immensely helped me throughout this emotional roller coaster of an application season, so I suggest picking up a new hobby to keep yourself sane!)

 

[predent3591]

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[Dent2B_SM]

Interview #3
Tufts University
Notification date: 1/7/16
Method of notification: E-mail
Interview Date: 2/1/16
AADSAS mail-out date: 6/13/15
outcome: waitlisted & deferred acceptance class 2021

Interviews: LECOM, Roseman, Tufts
Acceptances: LECOM
Waitlist: Tufts (class 2020)
Deferred Acceptance: Tufts (class 2021)

always rooting for under 3.0

Congrats ! Did you just find out about Lecom ?

 

[predent3591]

Congrats ! Did you just find out about Lecom ?

nah I got accepted Jan 4th

 

[SableFire]

Interview #3
Tufts University
Notification date: 1/7/16
Method of notification: E-mail
Interview Date: 2/1/16
AADSAS mail-out date: 6/13/15
outcome: waitlisted & deferred acceptance class 2021

Interviews: LECOM, Roseman, Tufts
Acceptances: LECOM
Waitlist: Tufts (class 2020)
Deferred Acceptance: Tufts (class 2021)

always rooting for under 3.0

You can have a deferred acceptance? How does that work?

 

[predent3591]

You can have a deferred acceptance? How does that work?

it means they want to accept me and the class of 2020 is currently full so they have accepted me for the class of 2021 and if there is an opening in the class of 2020 i am on the high priority wait list

 

[SableFire]

it means they want to accept me and the class of 2020 is currently full so they have accepted me for the class of 2021 and if there is an opening in the class of 2020 i am on the high priority wait list

I didn't know that schools do this. I've heard of special circumstances where they do it. Are you going to wait a year and join the class or go to Lecom?

 

[predent3591]

I didn't know that schools do this. I've heard of special circumstances where they do it. Are you going to wait a year and join the class or go to Lecom?

I don't think schools do this it might be an exception at tufts this year that a few of us got this opportunity. not gonna wait a year but hoping a spot opens for 2020 so well see!

 

[Soleus715]

I have a 2.98 sGPA and got in this year. I want to tell my story, even if it's not the most inspirational one in the hopes of motivating even one person who is struggling right now.

I was pretty much lost and stressed out with family/financial situation all throughout undergrad. It's too long/personal of a story to tell, but I'm sure many of you guys are going through some tough times.

During the summer of my graduation, I really thought about my life and the future. I realized that I can have this pity party all day and feel bad for myself, or I can change my life around.
I became curious about dentistry through a friend and decided to test my ability by taking the DAT. I worked extremely hard to save up for a few months to study. I studied for 4 months, sometimes more than 12 hours a day. I ended up with a 23.

Then, I began to shadow a dentist. I initially wanted to shadow once a week, but I liked it so much that I went daily and I was hired and trained to become a dental assistant.
I gained a lot of experience and passion for dentistry over the two years.

I applied to 20+ schools and received only 1 interview. I was waitlisted and then got accepted shortly after. What I had thought impossible had come true.
And here I was about to send my deposit for a masters program that's due in a few weeks. I had pretty much given up about getting in this cycle.

Until you try, you never know what's going to happen. I never thought I would have a shred of chance at dentistry until I snapped out of that mentality and really went at it.
Many people may say that it's mandatory to do post-bac or masters with my GPA. Most people wouldn't apply to 20+ schools with my financial situation.
But I ended up studying hard for the DAT and spending a bit more on my application cycle, and now I can enter one year earlier into dental school.
This is not by any means a guarantee, but my gamble paid off. A gamble on my own ability to change the future.

Even if it didn't work out, I could just do the masters program and reapply again. That's the great thing about this.
We can still control where our future is headed as long as we are determined and diligent about it.

I really hope that you guys won't give up on yourself and your future whether it's dentistry or not. You can definitely do it if you put your mind to it.

 

[taiL]

Hello SDN,

I was wondering if I could get advice on where I should go from here. I applied this cycle to (MN, Creighton, Meharry, Marquette, and MOSDOH) 4 have denied my application and I have yet to hear from Creighton or MN but am preparing myself for rejections. I graduated in 2010 with BS in CompSci and worked in industry for roughly 2 years before deciding to change my career. After completing the pre-reqs to dental school I applied and was rejected by all schools. I finished my one-year Master in BMS last year and as stated applied this cycle (i'm 29yrs old in case you're wondering). Here are my stats:

Undergrad: BCP 3.07, sGPA: 2.52, nsGPA: 3.46, tot: 2.72
Grad: BCP: 3.63, sGPA: 3.63, tot, 3.63
Cum: BCP: 3.25, sGPA:2.7, ns:3.46, tot: 2.84
DAT: AA 19, TS 20

This is my 2nd cycle and I may try again this June but I don't know what can improve my application or if it will help at all.


Thanks

 

[Soleus715]

Hello SDN,

I was wondering if I could get advice on where I should go from here. I applied this cycle to (MN, Creighton, Meharry, Marquette, and MOSDOH) 4 have denied my application and I have yet to hear from Creighton or MN but am preparing myself for rejections. I graduated in 2010 with BS in CompSci and worked in industry for roughly 2 years before deciding to change my career. After completing the pre-reqs to dental school I applied and was rejected by all schools. I finished my one-year Master in BMS last year and as stated applied this cycle (i'm 29yrs old in case you're wondering). Here are my stats:

Undergrad: BCP 3.07, sGPA: 2.52, nsGPA: 3.46, tot: 2.72
Grad: BCP: 3.63, sGPA: 3.63, tot, 3.63
Cum: BCP: 3.25, sGPA:2.7, ns:3.46, tot: 2.84
DAT: AA 19, TS 20

This is my 2nd cycle and I may try again this June but I don't know what can improve my application or if it will help at all.


Thanks

Have you tried calling the schools for advice? I think that should come before any of our comments on SDN...

I think some schools outright rejected me because of my 3.08 gpa even with a 23 DAT, while some still considered me and rejected me later.
Depending on the school, you may need to hit the 3.0 undergrad/ post-bac gpa minimum for consideration.
That being said, doing the masters does show effort to improve if you're reapplying to any of the schools from before.

Your DAT is not bad at all, but it is below average at many schools. It really should be considerably higher to make up for the GPA.
I would personally recommend retaking the DAT and shooting for 21+.

You still have a chance but you have to be realistic. It's going to take a lot of guts and a lot of diligent effort to get there.

 

[taiL]

Have you tried calling the schools for advice? I think that should come before any of our comments on SDN...

I think some schools outright rejected me because of my 3.08 gpa even with a 23 DAT, while some still considered me and rejected me later.
Depending on the school, you may need to hit the 3.0 undergrad/ post-bac gpa minimum for consideration.
That being said, doing the masters does show effort to improve if you're reapplying to any of the schools from before.

Your DAT is not bad at all, but it is below average at many schools. It really should be considerably higher to make up for the GPA.
I would personally recommend retaking the DAT and shooting for 21+.

You still have a chance but you have to be realistic. It's going to take a lot of guts and a lot of diligent effort to get there.

Thanks for the advice. I tried targeting schools that look at applications holistically but that didn't seem to do much. My grad adviser is urging me to retake the DAT also and I most likely will. I am just not sure if getting a higher DAT score will do much as you said I need to be realistic.

 

[Yahyaprotein]

can someone help me please.

I just graduated ucla with BA in anthro. cumulative and major gpa is 2.3 :/
i transferred from a community college with an overall gpa of 3.95

No science courses taken at either. Is overall GPA when i submit the average of the two or the last 90 units (in this case, at ucla).

finally, what are the best options for pre-dental goals? (masters, post bacc - if so which universities) I've done a lot of international work in dentistry and volunteer hours too if that helps..

thanks!

CSUF has a great postbac program... Look into it. Highly encourage u to do so!

 

[omed-hospdent]

I've been around these forums for a while (I know it says I joined in 2014, but I was stalking WAAAY before then) and found encouraging stories here.
To all those that got in, congratulations! To those that didn't, I want to encourage you!!

I graduated from a big University in NC with a BS in Bio, a Second major in Music (equivalent to a BA), with a minor in Chem.
My oGPA was 3.21 (God bless music) and my sGPA was significantly lower (under 3.0).

I knew I had to do a post-bacc if I wanted to apply to dental school, so I ended up at UNCG's informal post-bacc program (if you are anywhere near NC or can afford to move, DO IT. Ask me about this program. 10/10 would recommend).

I took 36 credit hours (2 semesters) of upper level bios and retakes, managed to bump both of my GPAs up (above 3.0 YAHOO).
I didn't want to take the DAT more than once (more of a money thing), so I studied for 3 months (I'd say ~9-12 hours a day) and got 21AA, 21 TS, which was fine by me.

That plus my service/shadowing hours (2000 hours over the course of 5 years/~300 over 3 years), letters of rec (I would say my professor letters were mediocre, but my dentist and extra LoR were almost TOO nice) added in with my personal statement and interview somehow got me IN.

If I were to offer any advice, I would say KEEP GOING. When I was going through my post-bacc studies, I wondered if any of this would pay off. Was spending $XXXX amount of money WORTH going to dental school? Is it even worth going to dental school? If you can get over these times and surround yourself with positive, UPLIFTING people, YOU CAN DO IT. You know what you have to do.

I don't have any advice on money stuff. I did have to pay my post-bacc studies completely out of pocket AKA no financial aid. Thankfully, I was an in-state resident, UNCG's post-bacc program considers you to be a second degree seeking student so you pay undergrad rates (HALLELUJAH). My family also lived in the area so I didn't have to worry about housing/working.

No one in my family/circle of friends understood what going through this kind of stuff is like, so this thread gave me good advice when I got down.
Thanks to all who posted!! Keep it up!

 

[Gymgivitis]

Going all in with a 3.01 cGPA 2.95 sGPA 20AA/22PAT this coming cycle. Wish me luck under 3.0 club. I luh you

 

[Shifff based]

Going all in with a 3.01 cGPA 2.95 sGPA 20AA/22PAT this coming cycle. Wish me luck under 3.0 club. I luh you

I belive in you!!!!

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[JakeSill]

3.0 cGPA 2.7 sGPA here. Junior psych major. Definitely doing informal postbac. Might get second degree in biology during the post bac. Need advice on whether to take physics at cc or my university? The physics at cc will not give me credit towards my second degree bio major.

 

[LaughingGas]

@JakeSill if you want to apply more variety of schools, take physics at uni.

 

[Gymgivitis]

3.0 cGPA 2.7 sGPA here. Junior psych major. Definitely doing informal postbac. Might get second degree in biology during the post bac. Need advice on whether to take physics at cc or my university? The physics at cc will not give me credit towards my second degree bio major.

The only school that said I'd have to retake my physics at a uni was Boston. They still review your app and will give a conditional acceptance even if u did take it at cc. Tufts and Temple both said it's fine when I called but they prefer it at uni. In my opinion, I would take it at CC if u know it's going to affect your GPA if taken at uni.

 

[JakeSill]

The only school that said I'd have to retake my physics at a uni was Boston. They still review your app and will give a conditional acceptance even if u did take it at cc. Tufts and Temple both said it's fine when I called but they prefer it at uni. In my opinion, I would take it at CC if u know it's going to affect your GPA if taken at uni.

Thanks for your reply. Yeah I was thinking bout taking it in CC, but going for second degree in bio in which the cc course won't be counted for my degree so might have to retake it again, but then again I might get in before I complete my second bio degree so wouldn't need to take physics.

 

[JakeSill]

Also, do people go full time or part time in informal post bacc? Will it be looked down upon if I go part time?

 

[CareerNumTwo]

Also, do people go full time or part time in informal post bacc? Will it be looked down upon if I go part time?

Depends on your specific situation...
Positive of full time: You can show the ADCOMs that you can handle a rigorous course load.
Negative of full time: may not be realistic if you're working full time/have a family/any life issues...
Positive of part time: more time to focus and get solid grades while balancing life.
Negative of part time: Schools may question if you could only get awesome grades due to taking minimal credits per semester.

 

[nebuchadnezzar90]

So what kind of position am I in? I know my GPA isn't under 3.0 but it's still low

oGPA : 3.26
sGPA: 3.13
21AA/21TS/21PAT

200+ shadowing/ with non paid dental assistant experience.
~90 hours of dental related volunteering
I'm pretty confident in my personal statement
I'm a TA for microbiology lab (2 semesters)
I know atleast 2/4 LORs are pretty good, others will range from average to good.

Applying to 30 schools, Florida resident (Already submitted application, and has been mailed but DAT hasn't been uploaded to AADSAS yet)

Did you get into Dental school?

 

[sweetpeeas]

Will always be rooting for the UNDER 3.0 CLUB! We are more than the sum of our mistakes -- we are born to improve and achieve something great!

Completed a formal post-bac, GPA: 4.0
DAT (AA/TS/PAT/Reading/any section below a 17): 21/21/23/19/none

Accepted at Roseman University!
Interview invite: 1/29
Notified of Acceptance: Via call & email on 2/2 (best day of my life )

There is always hope, so please...

Never give up on your dream
No matter how bleak the future may seem
Remain bold, passionate, and sincere
The prize you worked so hard for is near​

(I dabbled into poetry, which immensely helped me throughout this emotional roller coaster of an application season, so I suggest picking up a new hobby to keep yourself sane!)

I also got into my dream school (also happens to be a state school) here on the West Coast!

Wanted to update those who think people with less-than-stellar stats are not competitive enough for a state school --it can happen if you put in an immense amount of hard work & commitment towards your future! For those doing post-bacs &/or Master's programs, retaking the DAT, applying more than once, and generally doing everything you can to beef up your app, I BELIEVE THAT YOU CAN & WILL ACHIEVE YOUR DREAM IN BECOMING A DENTIST! Ignore those people who put you down or say you're not good enough.

Oh, and if any of those mean people are reading this: I am not an URM. If I was, I would be proud to state that, because some URMs I've met have incredible stories and hurdles that they have overcome to get to where they want to be.

Please PM if anyone here needs advice! I truly believe we all deserve to be dentists when we put in the hard work & demonstrate that our undergrad GPA truly does not reflect how we will be in dental school or as future dentists & specialists. We all make mistakes, and it's important that we accept that, move on, and improve ourselves as much as we can!

/end rant. Sorry for the long post. I am just sick of people high off their egos/entitlement telling other predents that they are not good enough to get in or telling those with lower stats that the only reason they got in was because of a connection, URM status, or <any other insert dismissive reason here>.

 

[Dentlow]

Just found this thread and am so happy I did! I have strong ECs with great leadership experience. oGPA: 3.19 sGPA: 2.99 BCP: 3.2 non-science: 3.7. Practice DAT b/t 22-25 with strong PAT (except angle ranking ). I am planning on taking a one year master at midwestern to bring up gpa. Should I apply this year to a few select schools or should I wait till i complete my masters?

Btw I show a downward trend in my gap, was going through some personal issues

 

[Soleus715]

Just found this thread and am so happy I did! I have strong ECs with great leadership experience. oGPA: 3.19 sGPA: 2.99 BCP: 3.2 non-science: 3.7. Practice DAT b/t 22-25 with strong PAT (except angle ranking ). I am planning on taking a one year master at midwestern to bring up gpa. Should I apply this year to a few select schools or should I wait till i complete my masters?

Btw I show a downward trend in my gap, was going through some personal issues

When are you planning on taking your DAT? Personally, I wouldn't make a decision to delay another year without knowing my DAT score.
I got in with a lower GPA than yours with little EC and extremely erratic GPA trend.

 

[HelloDental]

Hello Everyone!
I am new here, and hoping to ask for some of your opinions on what is expected of me this upcoming year. I would like to thank everyone in advance; I have been lurking around this forum for a while, and every thread has been a great help.

I currently have a Bachelors of Science from Stony Brook University with a degree in Health Science. Despite what the major sounds like, I actually do not have any of the pre reqs for Dental School. In fact, I didn't know I want to be a dentist during undergrad, which is why I didn't take any pre reqs. Now that I have worked a year at a dental office as an assistant, I decided that this is what I want to do! Unfortunately, I know my current grades aren't the greatest.

My Current situation:
- Current Overall GPA (from my Bachelors degree) is around a 2.9x . (This is without any pre reqs // sciences)

- Currently taking Physics 1 and Chemistry 1 at CUNY Hunter, and am anticipating an A in Chemistry 1 and at least a B- in Physics 1.

- I will be taking Chemistry 2 and Lab over the summer

- I plan on transferring to CUNY City Tech in the Fall to finish the remaining pre reqs. (physics 2, Orgo Chem, Bio, Bio Chem)

-DATs during my last semester of pre reqs (whenever that is!)

So my question is, Do you guys think I have the slightest chance of getting in to Dental school with my current situation? My current GPA is what I am most worried about most. Also, will the fact that I am transferring between two different CUNYs look bad to the admissions committee? The main reason why I am transferring is because they offer smaller classes, and I feel like the professor will get to know me more, and therefore, easier to get a recommendation - and plus, learning in a smaller class is better for me.

What are my next steps? If I ace all my pre reqs, will I be able to make it in any schools? If I don't ACE all of them, will it just be impossible to get into any school? I am looking to apply to all the NY schools such as NYU, SBU, Buffalo, Columbia and NJ Rutgers. Do I need other upper division science classes?

Another question is; If I do horrible in a class, would they consider me if I retake the class and do better?

I know I am asking a lot of questions. I am just very nervous for this journey, but I know this is what I want.

Thank you in advance for any of your help. I look forward to hearing from you guys!

 

[Soleus715]

Realistically speaking, you have a shot but it's not easy. You'll need to aim for straight A's and high DAT score to show improvement in your application.

That being said, many people including me had stats like you and got in.
Now that you know you can make it, it's up to the amount of dedication and effort you put in to make it into dental school.

Transferring won't be an issue as long as you're going to an accredited, 4 year university. Like I mentioned, don't think about getting anything lower than an A. If you get some lower grades, that's fine because you tried your best.
Retakes will not replace your older grades. That being said it may be better to just retake courses you have a C/C- or lower and take upper division courses instead to show you're improving. Many schools look favorably to taking many upper level courses (biochem, microbio, neurobio, orgo 2, etc)

Most 1st year dental students will be enrolled in ~40 credit hours / semester. Try to see it from this perspective and know that you should be able to tackle 18 credit hours much easier than 40.
It's all perception and perspective, imo.

Let me know if you got any questions!

 

[Socolaphile]

@Soleus715

I read your previous posts on how you were able to make it into dental school with below 3.0 gpa and I'm seeking for an advice.

I graduated with a biology major with a 2.35 sGPA. I have been taking informal post-bac courses at a community college due to financial reasons and was able to raise it up to 2.65 sGPA. I am doing another year worth of courses with 10 units/semester while working full-time to get it to 2.95 sGPA. I have not taken my DAT yet.

SMP and formal Post-bac is out of my financial reach.

I need honest insights or whether or not I should I continue this route. I am currently 25 years of age, and if I apply next year, I'll be 26 with no guarantee of getting in.

Thank you for your time.

 

[Soleus715]

@Soleus715

I read your previous posts on how you were able to make it into dental school with below 3.0 gpa and I'm seeking for an advice.

I graduated with a biology major with a 2.35 sGPA. I have been taking informal post-bac courses at a community college due to financial reasons and was able to raise it up to 2.65 sGPA. I am doing another year worth of courses with 10 units/semester while working full-time to get it to 2.95 sGPA. I have not taken my DAT yet.

SMP and formal Post-bac is out of my financial reach.

I need honest insights or whether or not I should I continue this route. I am currently 25 years of age, and if I apply next year, I'll be 26 with no guarantee of getting in.

Thank you for your time.

sent you a pm, lets talk there instead

 

[DentalECU90210]

sent you a pm, lets talk there instead

@Soleus Hi! I apologize for hijacking the post. Could you pm me...I wanted to speak with you regarding my stats. Thank you!.

 

[JakeSill]

nah I got accepted Jan 4th

Was the GPA you posted, the GPA you got with the masters combined or just undergrad?

 

[2th_fairy2016]

@Soleus715

I read your previous posts on how you were able to make it into dental school with below 3.0 gpa and I'm seeking for an advice.

I graduated with a biology major with a 2.35 sGPA. I have been taking informal post-bac courses at a community college due to financial reasons and was able to raise it up to 2.65 sGPA. I am doing another year worth of courses with 10 units/semester while working full-time to get it to 2.95 sGPA. I have not taken my DAT yet.

SMP and formal Post-bac is out of my financial reach.

I need honest insights or whether or not I should I continue this route. I am currently 25 years of age, and if I apply next year, I'll be 26 with no guarantee of getting in.

Thank you for your time.

I always hear people say that they can't afford an SMP or Post-Bacc. Do you think that a majority of people doing these programs pay out of pocket? No. Just like dental school, they take out loans. I know that a lot of dental schools screen out applications <3.0gpa so I highly recommend doing a Masters Program so you will have a separate graduate GPA.
If you decide to gamble and just apply, you will be risking >$2000 that could have gone to your tuition at an SMP. I won't go so far as to say you won't get in, but with your GPA and the upward trend happening after you transfered to CC, your chances are significantly lower.

I'd advise you to talk to an admissions counselor at a dental school and do a Masters or Post-bacc. Thats just my opinion.

 

[Likkriue]

Just dropping in to say goodluck to all of you in this club for the 2017 cycle! Remember it's not about the grades or stats, it's about putting in hard work and having an amazing journey!!!!!!

 

[IndianCurry]

Hello Everyone!
I am new here, and hoping to ask for some of your opinions on what is expected of me this upcoming year. I would like to thank everyone in advance; I have been lurking around this forum for a while, and every thread has been a great help.

I currently have a Bachelors of Science from Stony Brook University with a degree in Health Science. Despite what the major sounds like, I actually do not have any of the pre reqs for Dental School. In fact, I didn't know I want to be a dentist during undergrad, which is why I didn't take any pre reqs. Now that I have worked a year at a dental office as an assistant, I decided that this is what I want to do! Unfortunately, I know my current grades aren't the greatest.

My Current situation:
- Current Overall GPA (from my Bachelors degree) is around a 2.9x . (This is without any pre reqs // sciences)

- Currently taking Physics 1 and Chemistry 1 at CUNY Hunter, and am anticipating an A in Chemistry 1 and at least a B- in Physics 1.

- I will be taking Chemistry 2 and Lab over the summer

- I plan on transferring to CUNY City Tech in the Fall to finish the remaining pre reqs. (physics 2, Orgo Chem, Bio, Bio Chem)

-DATs during my last semester of pre reqs (whenever that is!)

So my question is, Do you guys think I have the slightest chance of getting in to Dental school with my current situation? My current GPA is what I am most worried about most. Also, will the fact that I am transferring between two different CUNYs look bad to the admissions committee? The main reason why I am transferring is because they offer smaller classes, and I feel like the professor will get to know me more, and therefore, easier to get a recommendation - and plus, learning in a smaller class is better for me.

What are my next steps? If I ace all my pre reqs, will I be able to make it in any schools? If I don't ACE all of them, will it just be impossible to get into any school? I am looking to apply to all the NY schools such as NYU, SBU, Buffalo, Columbia and NJ Rutgers. Do I need other upper division science classes?

Another question is; If I do horrible in a class, would they consider me if I retake the class and do better?

I know I am asking a lot of questions. I am just very nervous for this journey, but I know this is what I want.

Thank you in advance for any of your help. I look forward to hearing from you guys!

You'll be fine. Ace your pre-reqs and DAT. It's definitely doable if you put in the time.

 

[Fallenfromgrace]

Hi, I know ADEA AADSAS takes both original grades and retake grades into account for their GPA calculation, but their official printout also says "Many college/universities count only the 'new' grade in the repeated course(s) in GPA computation" in case you do repeat courses. Does anyone have a list or know of any schools that calculate GPA WITH grade replacement?

I had a really poor science GPA in undergrad (skipped a lot of class and really didn't care about school), but 2 years after graduation went back to school and retook gen bios I & II, gen chem I, ochem I, anatomy, and 2 upper division electives and have gotten an A/A- in all of them. Unfortunately, averaged with my undergrad transcript is only putting me at a 2.5. With grade replacement, I'm at least looking at a 3.1. I'm trying to keep positive. For anyone else sort of in the same boat w/ a low science GPA, retaking and doing better is definitely possible. You just have to be patient and give yourself time

 

[Likkriue]

Hi, I know ADEA AADSAS takes both original grades and retake grades into account for their GPA calculation, but their official printout also says "Many college/universities count only the 'new' grade in the repeated course(s) in GPA computation" in case you do repeat courses. Does anyone have a list or know of any schools that calculate GPA WITH grade replacement?

I had a really poor science GPA in undergrad (skipped a lot of class and really didn't care about school), but 2 years after graduation went back to school and retook gen bios I & II, gen chem I, ochem I, anatomy, and 2 upper division electives and have gotten an A/A- in all of them. Unfortunately, averaged with my undergrad transcript is only putting me at a 2.5. With grade replacement, I'm at least looking at a 3.1. I'm trying to keep positive. For anyone else sort of in the same boat w/ a low science GPA, retaking and doing better is definitely possible. You just have to be patient and give yourself time

No dental schools do grade replacement. I would recommend a SMP(specia masters program). Have you taken the dat?

 

[ncide]

No dental schools do grade replacement. I would recommend a SMP(specia masters program). Have you taken the dat?

Texas schools do some sort of grade forgiveness after 5 or 7 years. Dunno much about it though.

 

[LaughingGas]

10 years

https://www.tmdsas.com/medical/texasAcFrshStrt.html

 

[IndianCurry]

I've received a whole bunch of messages on low GPA weighed in at 120+ credits and how it is possible to come back from that scenario. I'll start a thread on this topic soon, but I recommend those of you in this precarious position to seriously contemplating a move to TX. If it is financially viable and whatnot, you will save a major headache, loans, etc. Otherwise, you're going to have to enroll in a LOT of credits - the law of diminishing returns plays a major factor in how much your GPA increases with every new course you start.

I have also done some searching on the medical school forums, and grade replacement is universal with regards to applying to osteopathic medical schools. If you are on the fence between medicine and dentistry with a low GPA, I suggest doing some research on the pre-osteopathic forum. It is absolutely a viable option - perhaps even more realistic for those of you mid 30s+ of age.

Anyway, I'll try to post a thread ASAP on how I executed my plan (which worked out great thankfully). It is not by any means the most efficient way to go about this process, but it is a template.

 

[cacajuate]

I was accepted with 2.98 oGPA with 180ish credits to a Texas school. Graduated from undergrad 2009.


Decided to be a dentist after working for a few years. 3.7 postbacc with 60 credits, 21/21/23 DAT. Applied 3 years, interviewed 3 years, accepted this year.

Persistence pays off, no easy way to do it.

 

[Socolaphile]

I was accepted with 2.98 oGPA with 180ish credits to a Texas school. Graduated from undergrad 2009.


Decided to be a dentist after working for a few years. 3.7 postbacc with 60 credits, 21/21/23 DAT. Applied 3 years, interviewed 3 years, accepted this year.

Persistence pays off, no easy way to do it.

May I know if your post-bac was formal or informal please? Also, is your accepted school in TX?

 

[cacajuate]

May I know if your post-bac was formal or informal please? Also, is your accepted school in TX?

Informal. Yes, accepted to a TX school.

 

[schmoob]

I was accepted with 2.98 oGPA with 180ish credits to a Texas school. Graduated from undergrad 2009.


Decided to be a dentist after working for a few years. 3.7 postbacc with 60 credits, 21/21/23 DAT. Applied 3 years, interviewed 3 years, accepted this year.

Persistence pays off, no easy way to do it.

Congrats!! That's awesome news. San Antonio is cool (not sure if you're from here).
Check out the Pearl on Saturday mornings, it's a cool little spot.


Oh and I'm part of this club too. There is no way of getting around hard work, paitence, and persistance.

 

[cacajuate]

Congrats!! That's awesome news. San Antonio is cool (not sure if you're from here).
Check out the Pearl on Saturday mornings, it's a cool little spot.


Oh and I'm part of this club too. There is no way of getting around hard work, paitence, and persistance.

Ive lived here in San Antonio the past four years. Was super happy to be accepted here, I already own a house so it's saving me a ton of money!

 

[schmoob]

Whaaaaat!! Good for you! You're in a good position. You can continue to make mortgage payments for 4 years while in school? Who could ask for more? And the prices here....

 

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