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[sunshinefl]

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I think it's a move Sloth might be trying to capitalize on. Logically, having someone read you village means nothing about the reader's affiliation, but people tend to like to side with those who are reading them village.

Well it was working until everyone started calling it out lol

 

[PhiloslothicalStudent]

Right now, that's what I'm reading that as. Sloth hasn't been on the thread much at all besides to defend their Alley joke vote and then they come out of nowhere with a whole reads list and no reasoning. Feels like a wolf trying to seem like they're contributing, and the contents of the list seem strange as well

These were just my initial impressions from my catch up, I did have way more village reads than usual. I will work on re-categorizing some of the villagers into a possible weak village, re-reading some things now (again) and I am already having some second thoughts. I think I have a solid opinion, and then I re-read the thread and things always end up changing

 

[vetschoolsletmeinplease]

Spoiler: A GIRLFRIEND NO LONGER

 

[vetschoolsletmeinplease]

Spoiler: A GIRLFRIEND NO LONGER

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Accidentally posted this before I finished typing bc I’m shaking I’m very excited but I’ll be on very sporadically today and this is why!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[sunshinefl]

Spoiler: A GIRLFRIEND NO LONGER

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Omg this is amazing!!!!! You were right!!! Congratulations ❤️

 

[PhiloslothicalStudent]

since you don't know what wolf Genny sounds like.

This is a fair point.

 

[sunshinefl]

Accidentally posted this before I finished typing bc I’m shaking I’m very excited but I’ll be on very sporadically today and this is why!!!!!!!!!!!

I was shaking so much when my husband proposed I knocked the ring to the ground lol

 

[Animal Midwife]

These were just my initial impressions from my catch up, I did have way more village reads than usual. I will work on re-categorizing some of the villagers into a possible weak village, re-reading some things now (again) and I am already having some second thoughts. I think I have a solid opinion, and then I re-read the thread and things always end up changing

There's nothing inherently wrong with having several village leans (as the game is mostly villagers), I'd just like to know your thought process behind them to see if you noticed something I missed.

 

[Aprilthearab]

These were just my initial impressions from my catch up, I did have way more village reads than usual. I will work on re-categorizing some of the villagers into a possible weak village, re-reading some things now (again) and I am already having some second thoughts. I think I have a solid opinion, and then I re-read the thread and things always end up changing

There's obviously not a problem with village reading people, I just find it a little more than coincidental that you were very quick to move so many people into village instead of village leans and you also never gave explanations for most of them. Especially those who have barely posted.

 

[vetschoolsletmeinplease]

I'm not sure how I feel about you grouping such a large amount of people into village, and not weak village, so fast, especially without any prior posts indicating why.

I wanted to get this one to keep it in mind as i read sloth's stuff but I also feel like that's just how sloth plays? kinda similar to me (and I could be reading this wrong) but I kinda take an innocent until proven guilty approach and i think sloth might more or less do the same?
the problem i kinda have with it is that anything more than weak reads (wolf or village, to me) is not my favorite right now.

Right now, that's what I'm reading that as. Sloth hasn't been on the thread much at all besides to defend their Alley joke vote and then they come out of nowhere with a whole reads list and no reasoning. Feels like a wolf trying to seem like they're contributing, and the contents of the list seem strange as well

but this interaction is moving april a little more towards village from neutral, bc im reading it wolfhuntingy

What about Dina are you reading as sus?

i also don't understand the dina sus-ing

 

[PhiloslothicalStudent]

but this interaction is moving april a little more towards village from neutral, bc im reading it wolfhuntingy

I’m agreeing with this even though April is somewhat targeting me

 

[Aprilthearab]

I wanted to get this one to keep it in mind as i read sloth's stuff but I also feel like that's just how sloth plays? kinda similar to me (and I could be reading this wrong) but I kinda take an innocent until proven guilty approach and i think sloth might more or less do the same?
the problem i kinda have with it is that anything more than weak reads (wolf or village, to me) is not my favorite right now.

but this interaction is moving april a little more towards village from neutral, bc im reading it wolfhuntingy

i also don't understand the dina sus-ing

You could be right that what I'm analyzing is Sloth's normal gameplay and it is NAI. Personally, my "innocent until proven guilty" involves putting people in neutral as default until I have a reason not to. I feel like putting people into a village pile as default is dangerous because it can affect how others read those people, whether intentionally or unintentionally, and it can keep wolves safely hidden.

Same about Dina, she has barely posted and is square in my neutrals right now.

 

[Animal Midwife]

Unyeet April
Yeet MsP

 

[genny]

This is another one of those remarks where it's technically the truth - asked for 2 reads, gave 2 reads - but it gives me kind of a weird feeling because it's not like there are only 2 players in the game to read. It's almost the opposite of cray having notes on 11 people, and it seems like a weird thing to get defensive about.

Do you have any other reads to share?

Besides the brief ones I posted earlier? Sure.

AM is doing the bare minimum to stay just on the village side of neutral. Cray sounds village. You sound village.

Vis hasn't been as aggressive as I'd expect for village. April's bf says she's wolfy. Dina seems awful lurky, which she has been in the past as a wolf.

Dubz isn't village, but good luck yeeting her if she's a wolf.

 

[genny]

What changed between these two posts to move April into your “yeet” list?

I slept for 12 hours non-consecutively, I had breakfast, and I reread the thread.

 

[vetschoolsletmeinplease]

Unyeet April
Yeet MsP

pressure vote???

 

[Animal Midwife]

Besides the brief ones I posted earlier? Sure.

AM is doing the bare minimum to stay just on the village side of neutral. Cray sounds village. You sound village.

Vis hasn't been as aggressive as I'd expect for village. April's bf says she's wolfy. Dina seems awful lurky, which she has been in the past as a wolf.

Dubz isn't village, but good luck yeeting her if she's a wolf.

Do you have a lean on Ace as of now?

 

[Aprilthearab]

Unyeet April
Yeet MsP

Schools beat me to it, but why? I'd like to know more about her gameplay in general too since she's been completely absent so far

 

[Animal Midwife]

pressure vote???

As always.

 

[vetschoolsletmeinplease]

I don't have anyone who i feel like evidence has been damning enough to call a wolf.
shorty and sloth are on my pay close attention to what they say list but like that's it


I'm gonna yeet MsP for now


I wanna hear more from her to place her + if she does get yeeted tonight, in my opinion we're super likely to lose a villager day 1 and I'd rather lose a quiet villager than a quiet villager (from modkill tomorrow) AND an active one
will likely move off🙂

 

[Aprilthearab]

shorty and sloth are on my pay close attention to what they say list but like that's it

Why shorty? Nothing's hit me as off with her so far

 

[genny]

Do you have a lean on April or Ace as of now?

Ace has barely participated, but I can't imagine wolf!ace + village!april in that situation. it's either v/v or v/w. leaning wolfy rn.

 

[Animal Midwife]

I don't have anyone who i feel like evidence has been damning enough to call a wolf.
shorty and sloth are on my pay close attention to what they say list but like that's it


I'm gonna yeet MsP for now


I wanna hear more from her to place her + if she does get yeeted tonight, in my opinion we're super likely to lose a villager day 1 and I'd rather lose a quiet villager than a quiet villager (from modkill tomorrow) AND an active one
will likely move off🙂

Why do you think we're super likely to lose a villager? Do the wagons not appeal to you?

 

[Animal Midwife]

Schools beat me to it, but why? I'd like to know more about her gameplay in general too since she's been completely absent so far

I'll let you see it for yourself when she comes on, but it does lend itself to needing continual pressure.

 

[vetschoolsletmeinplease]

Why do you think we're super likely to lose a villager? Do the wagons not appeal to you?

my first reasoning is every game i've played we've lost a villager day 1
and then i think the only wagons are genny and visc (?) rn
which i think is interesting but not neccecarily making me lean wolf on genny
and i can't remember who else
I'm gonna go make a tally to see who's where and whatnot. i'll get back to you on this one.

 

[Aprilthearab]

in my opinion we're super likely to lose a villager day 1 and I'd rather lose a quiet villager than a quiet villager (from modkill tomorrow) AND an active one

This is the same logic Enigma had last game and it still kinda makes me twitch

 

[Animal Midwife]

my first reasoning is every game i've played we've lost a villager day 1
and then i think the only wagons are genny and visc (?) rn
which i think is interesting but not neccecarily making me lean wolf on genny
and i can't remember who else
I'm gonna go make a tally to see who's where and whatnot. i'll get back to you on this one.

The wagons are not just genny and Vis. Let me know what you think with a second glance.

 

[Zenge142]

my first reasoning is every game i've played we've lost a villager day 1
and then i think the only wagons are genny and visc (?) rn
which i think is interesting but not neccecarily making me lean wolf on genny
and i can't remember who else
I'm gonna go make a tally to see who's where and whatnot. i'll get back to you on this one.

April is actually the largest wagon.

Edit: Or it was until AM moved her vote a few moments ago.

 

[vetschoolsletmeinplease]

unofficial d1 yeet tally

April (3) - alleycat, Viscernable, Acehunter
AM ()
Dina ()
alleycat ()
DubZ (1) - kras
kras ()
Philosloth ()
MsP (1) - Dina
Viscernable (3) - Crayola, DubZ, genny
supershorty (1) - DrRoRo
genny (2) - Zenge, supershorty
MsP (2)- AM, schools

 

[vetschoolsletmeinplease]

unofficial d1 yeet tally

April (3) - alleycat, Viscernable, Acehunter
AM ()
Dina ()
alleycat ()
DubZ (1) - kras
kras ()
Philosloth ()
MsP (1) - Dina
Viscernable (3) - Crayola, DubZ, genny
supershorty (1) - DrRoRo
genny (2) - Zenge, supershorty
MsP (2)- AM, schools

lol i didn't pay close enough attention last page
ew a tie in a kdubz game, but we're like 6 hours from yeet so it'll resolve
the visc thing i only understand in the context of we don't have much to go off of yet, and the april thing if i can remember is from people not liking her salt vote
so i think both of the wagons have pretty weak bases right now

 

[Aprilthearab]

lol i didn't pay close enough attention last page
ew a tie in a kdubz game, but we're like 6 hours from yeet so it'll resolve
the visc thing i only understand in the context of we don't have much to go off of yet, and the april thing if i can remember is from people not liking her salt vote
so i think both of the wagons have pretty weak bases right now

I think people were voting for Vis on the basis of that first explainy salt vote they made

 

[Animal Midwife]

unofficial d1 yeet tally

April (3) - alleycat, Viscernable, Acehunter
AM ()
Dina ()
alleycat ()
DubZ (1) - kras
kras ()
Philosloth ()
MsP (1) - Dina
Viscernable (3) - Crayola, DubZ, genny
supershorty (1) - DrRoRo
genny (2) - Zenge, supershorty
MsP (2)- AM, schools

Tally's a bit off.

 

[WildZoo]

Besides the brief ones I posted earlier? Sure.

AM is doing the bare minimum to stay just on the village side of neutral. Cray sounds village. You sound village.

Vis hasn't been as aggressive as I'd expect for village. April's bf says she's wolfy. Dina seems awful lurky, which she has been in the past as a wolf.

Dubz isn't village, but good luck yeeting her if she's a wolf.

You're doing a lot of echoing my reads for someone who thinks I'm not village

 

[supershorty]

Dubz isn't village

This is interesting to me just because you sound so confident in it. I'm going to go back and see if I missed something in her posts - I have her squarely as neutral right now.

I'd like to hear more from sloth on how their reads were determined because some things don't add up and I want some clarity on the decisions to put various people in the strong village vs weak village pile.

 

[Aprilthearab]

unofficial d1 yeet tally

April (3) - alleycat, Viscernable, Acehunter
AM ()
Dina ()
alleycat ()
DubZ (1) - kras
kras ()
Philosloth ()
MsP (1) - Dina
Viscernable (3) - Crayola, DubZ, genny
supershorty (1) - DrRoRo
genny (2) - Zenge, supershorty
MsP (2)- AM, schools

The MsP votes should be grouped together, so then there's actually a three way tie at the moment if all is counted correctly

 

[vetschoolsletmeinplease]

Tally's a bit off.

wait what did i miss? i went back and i think i got all the votes since the last one

 

[supershorty]

I wanna hear more from her to place her + if she does get yeeted tonight, in my opinion we're super likely to lose a villager day 1

This attitude gives me a little twinge after all the discussion last game about how D1 absolutely can yeet a wolf and shouldn't be dismissed.

 

[vetschoolsletmeinplease]

The MsP votes should be grouped together, so then there's actually a three way tie at the moment if all is counted correctly

OH oops hold on.

 

[vetschoolsletmeinplease]

corrected unofficial d1 yeet tally

April (3) - alleycat, Viscernable, Acehunter
AM ()
Dina ()
alleycat ()
DubZ (1) - kras
kras ()
Philosloth ()
MsP (3) - Dina, AM, schools
Viscernable (3) - Crayola, DubZ, genny
supershorty (1) - DrRoRo
genny (2) - Zenge, supershorty

 

[vetschoolsletmeinplease]

idk how i did that as a quote

 

[vetschoolsletmeinplease]

This attitude gives me a little twinge after all the discussion last game about how D1 absolutely can yeet a wolf and shouldn't be dismissed.

I never said we can't, i just said it was unlikely and I think that's true

 

[Aprilthearab]

I never said we can't, i just said it was unlikely and I think that's true

I can see where the reasoning comes from, but it's a wasted yeet if the person might be mod killed anyway, and it generates exactly 0 info because the person has no interactions to analyze so it's not a helpful yeet to the village

 

[vetschoolsletmeinplease]

I can see where the reasoning comes from, but it's a wasted yeet if the person might be mod killed anyway, and it generates exactly 0 info because the person has no interactions to analyze so it's not a helpful yeet to the village

true, it doesn't give us basically any info but it does preserve numbers... which i admit i'm weary of after last game

 

[Aprilthearab]

That being said, it could be helpful as a pressure vote, but I don't see it as helpful if the person never shows up and everyone stays on that yeet

 

[Animal Midwife]

That being said, it could be helpful as a pressure vote, but I don't see it as helpful if the person never shows up and everyone stays on that yeet

Is three people everyone?

 

[WildZoo]

Vis vote is because of her weird post and also a distinct lack of her usual wolfhunting effort since

Unless you have stronger reasons for another vote or have a reason to think vis is village @vetschoolsletmeinplease, I'm a little confused by your commentary on it

 

[vetschoolsletmeinplease]

Vis vote is because of her weird post and also a distinct lack of her usual wolfhunting effort since

Unless you have stronger reasons for another vote or have a reason to think vis is village @vetschoolsletmeinplease, I'm a little confused by your commentary on it

my vote is where it is bc i don't have strong reasons for anyone to be anything
i didn't like how much scrutiny some awkward wording had, especially when it was in regards to a salt vote. i don't think there's enough basis to yeet visc yet and i'm gun-shy after last game

 

[vetschoolsletmeinplease]

my vote is where it is bc i don't have strong reasons for anyone to be anything
i didn't like how much scrutiny some awkward wording had, especially when it was in regards to a salt vote. i don't think there's enough basis to yeet visc yet and i'm gun-shy after last game

and probably a little because my own awkward wording has gotten me in trouble before so there's a little bit of personal sympathy there

 

[vetschoolsletmeinplease]

also a distinct lack of her usual wolfhunting effort since

although i do think this is a good point

 

[Aprilthearab]

Is three people everyone?

Obviously not. I feel like you're intentionally missing the point which was regarding yeeting an inactive person, which is very possible if more people jump on that vote and don't back down