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[Crayola227]

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What games has alley been misyeeted in? I’m sure it’s happened but I can’t remember.

Trying to decide if Visc is whiteknighting Alley or packmate defense. Feels like Visc is taking some issue with my comment about Alley maybe being wolfbait.

 

[Crayola227]

Some thoughts:

April's salt vote doesn't make sense to me - and it gives me a little twinge that she said that AM didn't occur to her, because in the last game, I brought up in dead chat that I thought her fixation on the AM/Lainey thing days after the fact was kind of odd given that both players were dead at that point. I'm not sure if I feel like it's super wolfy, but it doesn't feel quite genuine (that or her outrage about Lainey being killed was manufactured in the last game, but I'm not sure what she was trying to accomplish if that was the case, given that AM was also dead). I don't have strong reads at this point, but there are a few people who I have weak village reads on and April is not one of them at this point.

I'm willing to give ace, Lainey, and RoRo some benefit of the doubt as total noobs for now - RoRo has only made 2 posts on the board in total, so I believe the total noob thing. I don't have reads on them at all yet based on their posts.

kras and AM aren't fighting, which makes me wonder if they're the same affiliation or if kras just hasn't come back from teaching baby doctors how to do physicals.

This reads very hedgy

 

[Crayola227]

I'm actively avoiding kras to see if she holds true to her word about playing to a pro-village meta if allowed the first few moves.

Yeah, the issue is she's playing pro-village *for Kras.* When you read a list of classic scum tells, sadly, well I wonder what AM is saying about Kras in dead chat and if she is very disappointed in us right now.

 

[Crayola227]

You're too smart to give so much benefit of doubt. Feels like too much, like from April last game. Feels like you're trying to buddy up to your fellow noobs.

Wanted to revisit these thoughts on shorty.

 

[Crayola227]

Reading back through the thread to get reads on other people and my own post bothered/pinged me so just want to clarify - I am trying to be somewhat kind to noobs with their first posts, but this post makes it sound like I think I need to be nice to them to avoid being misyeeted on the first day again, and that's not what I meant. I just want to give them a chance to get their feet wet. If I get a wolfy vibe from any of them, I will vote accordingly.

Shorty posted a self correction post. Possibly wolfy.

 

[Crayola227]

I'm going to go ahead and unyeet kras for now because I don't actually have a wolf read on her at the moment

Coming off this vote at this time like this a lil sus.

 

[Crayola227]

This post worries me. I really don’t feel great about players being happy about being unreadable (from a metagame standpoint sure, but in the middle of a game as a villager you would be worried about making sure your fellow villagers can read you correctly). It also feels like a strange way to respond to suspicion if you were a villager. Just sounds kind of like “you can’t read me so don’t even bother being suspicious of anything sketchy I do this game”. What was that you were saying about pre-emptive defensiveness?







I’m puzzled by this exchange. Wasn’t your concern about Dina based on her lurking and taking a while to reply after reacting? If she’s confirming here that she was lurking, why are you backtracking on that concern?







Eh, I think Ace and RoRo’s posts were pretty innocuous. I am very suspicious of players leaning on playing up noobness after wolfing with shorty, but one comment about being new in their first post doesn’t cross that line in my eyes. Cray, reading your post calling out Ace’s post, I get the impression that what initially set off your weirdness sensor was a naked vote being edited plus not recognizing the player, and we now know that the edit was just because he was correcting formatting.

Post to pick at Dubz and defend noobs

 

[Crayola227]

I'm voting MsP because of some residual salt from the last game I played with her where she was a sneaky wolf, so wanted to put a push there early.

So far I'm not feeling the april vote and am neutral as well. I agree with whomever said her tone is different than last game, which could make me lean village, but I think it can be attributed to the number of votes she has because she sounds more defensive. I found her vote on me strange because I had reason for my trigger vote on her last game, and a few people brought up a good point regarding Lainey and putting her vote on AM. However, I might be biased because she's voting for me .

As far as wolfy leans, I'm thinking about Vis for reasons mentioned and Please has given me some wolf feels because she's been participating on the thread, but it's been almost all fluff.

How do you feel about Please and Vis now?

 

[Crayola227]

Ok the thread has slowed down enough for me to collect my thoughts, especially since I'll be largely absent tomorrow (anniversary with partner).

I don't love cray's focus on sloth's vote for the first pageish. my impression of the first half of day one is everyone casts a joke vote and we all change it when something actually happens. other than that sounds like normal village cray to me

some of lainey's posts would ping me a little if she weren't basically a fresh noob. she only got 1 day last game so i don't super count it
alley sounds like village alley
i'ont trust april one bit after last game, so im not sure where to put her posts at all. same goes for WZ. i need to get a better handle on their tones
I also don't like the focus on april's salt vote, i feel like it's too much attention for something minor? although that can be a direct consquence of there just not being too much to go off of yet

i thought this was an interesting post and i wanted to just keep it where i can see it in the context of reading shorty's posts

everyone else i don't have many thoughts on in either direction yet

Can you update your reads on Alley, Lainey, April, and Shorty?

 

[Crayola227]

This bothers me a bit. This post was made with two votes already on Vis, but Genny isn’t voting to yeet Vis herself.

Seems sort of like she’s trying to stoke the flames of the “Vis is sus” narrative in the thread, while standing safely back and not getting her hands dirty.

Also interesting that she seems to have the opposite read on April that most people have, but I don’t know what to make of the April situation at the moment so I’m not touching that.

Side note: I don’t think Cray, or Dubz are sus for having their votes on Vis. I don’t necessarily agree with their votes at this time, but I can see the reason in the arguments supporting it.

But I do think it’s interesting that Genny is stoking those flames without jumping in herself.

It was also posted after this:

Which was initially a joking deflection of Dubz asking what she thought of Vis and April. By first deflecting, and then making a separate post not quoting back to Dubz original question, Genny can simultaneously say she answered the question and make it look like, at a cursory glance if you ISO her posts, that she’s offering those reads unprompted, and doing more “wolf hunting” than she really is.

There’s nothing here that’s a “smoking gun” or anything. But if I’m looking for things to be wrong, which I guess I am since that’s sort of the point, there’s some things here that stand out to me.

We used a associatives and concluded sloth might be genny's packmate and we were wrong, I'm wondering if this should help clear Visc or not.

 

[Crayola227]

Besides moving Zenge to weak village, I have also moved vetschools to weak village since my spreadsheet. She sounds like her usual self.

The way you are clearing people makes me sus. Just gotta say.

 

[Crayola227]

I don't disagree with this assessment, but after the last game, I do want to remind you that there have been D1 wagons that consisted entirely of villagers misyeeting a villager (ask me how I know 😒). I'm keeping that in the back of my mind.

This is kind of a weird defense of those on April.

 

[Crayola227]

Yeet genny

I want to see what she says today with a little bit of pressure applied. I don't have a way to say it better than zenge did, but something feels NQR with the post about Vissy.

Ok, but this was a nice move. Can't remember if Shorty stayed on genny.

 

[Crayola227]

I'd like to see more thoughts from pleasy because other than this post last night, there's just been a lot of fluff posts (and one tally). It's not atypical pleasy to post that way, but it doesn't give me a strong pro-village feeling either.

What do you think about Please now?

 

[Crayola227]

Sunshine sounds like village sunshine to me
Dr roro I don’t have a tonal read yet
Zenge sounds very similar to last game so I’m scootching him on over to the village pile for now
Idk how to spell that
I’m gonna pop in as much as I can and give general impressions but we’re about to start anniversary festivities with walking to our favorite pastry shop🥰

After Shorty's post. Feel like wolfy appease-village attempt.

 

[Aprilthearab]

I know I said before it's so easy for a wolf to make a read list look legit, but I don't see anyone completely flipped from what I would say here. So maybe Kras should get some village cred....

Read lists from wolves never look wildly different than those of villagers unless they're playing really stupid. That would make it just too easy for wolves to be spotted. I don't think this is a reason to give Kras village cred, especially when those reasons for reads are quite minimal.

 

[Crayola227]

I'm headed out the door but wanted to make some notes before I get too busy

Cray sounds like typical village Cray - very involved, taking note of basically everything.
The three noobs (Roro, Ace, Lainey) haven't said enough to give me a feeling in either direction.
I don't think we've heard anything at all from MsP yet (please correct me if I missed her posts) so I'm not sure if she's completely absent or what, but until she shows up I'm thinking that might be a mod kill for inactivity and not where I want to waste my vote.
I still have barely played with Dina at all but what I've heard so far sounds much like what I heard in the last game before she flipped village so I want to move off of that, I'm just not sure where yet.
Schools sounds like typical village schools so far but I'd like to hear more.
The first post Vis made concerned me but otherwise their posts have sounded like the analysis I'm used to village Vis making. I'm hoping to hear more from them too.
Genny and Dubz are always really hard reads for me for whatever reason and that stands true now too.

For now

Unyeet Dina

And when I'm back home I'll find a better wolfy substitute

So weird. Villagers don't have "substitute" votes, because that implies one player can stand in for the next just as well. We have wolf candidates. Wolves have "substitute votes" because at the end of the day one villager vote is as good as the next for them.

 

[Aprilthearab]

Reads like IIoA (Information Instead of Analysis)

Players post updated tallies all the time. Unless you have evidence of IIoA elsewhere, this seems very NAI

 

[Crayola227]

This is another one of those remarks where it's technically the truth - asked for 2 reads, gave 2 reads - but it gives me kind of a weird feeling because it's not like there are only 2 players in the game to read. It's almost the opposite of cray having notes on 11 people, and it seems like a weird thing to get defensive about.

Do you have any other reads to share?

Sorry I was doubting you shorty, you're pressing the attack on genny.

 

[Crayola227]

Players post updated tallies all the time. Unless you have evidence of IIoA elsewhere, this seems very NAI

However I noted it because I realize that I don't feel that I'm seeing the depth from Please. I'm wondering as I go along the reread if IIoA or parroting or other signs of not really wolf hunting but trying to be "active" will emerge or not.

Your point is otherwise taken.

 

[Crayola227]

my first reasoning is every game i've played we've lost a villager day 1
and then i think the only wagons are genny and visc (?) rn
which i think is interesting but not neccecarily making me lean wolf on genny
and i can't remember who else
I'm gonna go make a tally to see who's where and whatnot. i'll get back to you on this one.

More sus

 

[Crayola227]

lol i didn't pay close enough attention last page
ew a tie in a kdubz game, but we're like 6 hours from yeet so it'll resolve
the visc thing i only understand in the context of we don't have much to go off of yet, and the april thing if i can remember is from people not liking her salt vote
so i think both of the wagons have pretty weak bases right now

Just reads that she wants to stay on the sidelines.

 

[Crayola227]

we got this, and it was made on p4 and i don't think he's said much since. we're 6 pages ahead now (and the quote below that dubz found that I had missed)

I'm not sayin he's wolfy, i wanna hear more about his thoughts on april now that there are 6 more pages of content

Moving her vote to where AM was on MsP, then moving to Ace. Just feels hedgy and all over the place.

 

[Crayola227]

This stuck out to me because the ultimate goal is to catch a wolf not to sit on joke votes, so I'm confused why you didn't like it.

Spoiler: Also

CONGRATS ON YOUR ENGAGEMENT

Lol and here I was thinking I was being better about posting more



I feel like I'm playing about the same as I do any game. My impression is that this is only being brought up because I looked at thread yesterday on my phone and reacted to some posts and didn't finish replying until I came back 2-3 hours later.





Basically she'll not come on until almost yeet close and either get people to waffle off of her or nobody will yeet her thinking she's going to be mod killed, but then she pops on to do just enough to not get mod killed. Or at least that's what she did in Back to skewwl.

I'm considering when/if I'll switch off of her. Maybe to Vis or even genny. I'm not great at reading her, but Zenge has brought up some good points. Schools posts have also stuck out to me, so she's leaning slighty wolfy.

In one post I think "that's wolfy, Dina!" And then the next I think it's good. Trying to figure out the Dina ans Schools interactions. The way she says "even genny" makes me wonder if the emphasis was subconscious wolf considering bus. But it maybe depends on how I'm reading Please and the Dina/please interaction

 

[Crayola227]

I agree it does seem a little odd, but I also feel that sometimes people get pushed too hard for reads and then get pushed too hard for explanations of those reads and then get chastised about it all. Which is why I said probing too hard isn't always helpful to the village.

This was the soft defense of genny people noted. Notice I said soft. Just wanted to clarify that.

 

[sunshinefl]

Sunshine has been awfully hedgy this game. Wolf Sunshine was pretty aggressive, so I can't say it fits the limited meta, but not really loving the hedginess as that can be a classic sign of lyncanthropy. Also the only sketch thing I have done/said that I can tell was the genny vote, and I really think it actually does more to support me in the uninformed majority than the other way round, yet Sunshine felt the need to create that foil about me. I'm definitely looking at people picking up that bait.

@sunshinefl can I get updated reads? How do you feel about Viscernable now?

Visc is village. I can’t give the rest of my reads till later because I’m about to walk into the prison and don’t have my laptop. But none of them will be a surprise I put everything on the thread.

The way you are clearing people makes me sus. Just gotta say.

Well we’ve been through this already cray. Just because I assign points differently than you doesn’t mean I’m sus. But hey you can kill me again like the muppets came for being a villager giving village points to a villager.

Read lists from wolves never look wildly different than those of villagers unless they're playing really stupid. That would make it just too easy for wolves to be spotted. I don't think this is a reason to give Kras village cred, especially when those reasons for reads are quite minimal.

Yes April I said that in my own post. But none of hers were too out of place from mine and there isn’t much else to go off with Kras.

 

[Crayola227]

This was the soft defense of genny people noted. Notice I said soft. Just wanted to clarify that.

Nvm, she was saying this about Sloth not genny.

 

[sunshinefl]

This was the soft defense of genny people noted. Notice I said soft. Just wanted to clarify that.

Nope I was referring to Sloth there. Who flipped village btw. But I didn’t ask for village cred for that because my commentary was saying it’s a play style that I don’t agree with and was NAI.

 

[sunshinefl]

Okay now I’m really going in. I’ll be back whenever I get off.

 

[Crayola227]

the bolded was about Genny.

Nevermind, you were soft defending genny.

 

[Crayola227]

Ugh, that exchange was confusing and I can't tell what Sunny intended, but I can understand why some people thought it might be soft defense of genny.

 

[Crayola227]

You can question things. I just don't think its helpful in general to be like "genny, give me all your reads!" "genny how do you have all those reads?" "genny how are you so confident in those reads?" "genny you didn't answer fast enough" "genny you are sus." You're creating a situation that is forcing them to dig in on things prematurely. As I stated it can make them throw out incorrect reads that others absorb, or cause others to read the person incorrectly. It's just a bad cycle.

Ok, unequivocally can see the point about a soft defense. However, I think it can be explained in light of Sunny's vote on genny. Also I think that Sunny is like me in that she will stand by a point (such as don't press people too hard for reads and hold awkwardness against them [although classically great way to catch wolves e.g. genny's weak reads]) even though she argues the point it doesn't always mean she's defending a particular player's alignment.

 

[Crayola227]

Is a vote ever wasted? This feels wolfy



These made me

I kinda agree with this, but also

🤔

I don't like the look of those wagons. While I get the sus of april, an entirely noob(-ish) wagon feels like a misyeet. Conversely, genny/cray/dubz all agreeing on Vis while sussing each other on thread feels like a setup

indeed

or more

sir, I v much enjoy your sass, please carry on.

The only original point Kras made was a supposed setup by me/genny/dubz based on us sussing each other while on Visc.

What she gave April wolf points for feels bogus.

 

[Crayola227]

Tone, what she's choosing to respond to, feelz...
I need to go run errands, but remind me later and I'll try to pull quotes

It doesn't matter now she's dead, but noting this to see if quotes materialized.

 

[Crayola227]

I'm not suspicious of cray, and genny voted after me, which I already called her out for

Aha! Dubz caught it. Genny was sheeping our Visc votes. That was what was off.

 

[Viscernable]

So I’m trying to find most/all of my references and reply.

So I’m a bit confused by this. I think Vis got me confused with someone else. Not only did I vote for Sloth, but I never mentioned anything related to “especially with AM gone” sus on April after the Genny flip? I’m actually feeling a bit better about April right now. I know I pointed out a tone change and I voted for her, but her contribution to wolf hunting has her as a neutral/leaning village for me.

I already addressed the Dubz point to her directly with me getting confused about the breadsticks game. Rip Dubz, your tone was different and now I know she was actually a villager.

I also never said anything about the method of murders in the write up. I said something along the lines of “I just found out AM and Dubz died” because I was behind, but that’s it.

You’re right, I had you confused with ace since you’re by each other in my notes, sorry! The AM thing and murder method speculation were him.

I saw your justification for Dubz and it would be an understandable mistake, but I still feel weird about the post. Overall, though, I feel much better about you now I know those posts were ace.

 

[Crayola227]

This is my first time playing with Sloth, but my impression is while there have been some irregularities in their reads, my immediate reaction is that they're newer to the game and not reading thread as well vs if they were wolfing (especially for the first time) they'd spend a little more time fleshing them out and asking other wolves before posting.

Whiteknighting? Dina doesn't come out looking great D1 so far. Hope to compare with D2 as I go.

 

[Crayola227]

Mostly because you posted this as your original reasoning, now that I am re-reading somethings

But then today better reasoning/explanation was posted, when you explained that they usually don’t come until yeet close.

My question is, if that’s what they usually do, what’s the point of applying pressure if it doesn’t really make a difference?

Sloth calling out Dina

 

[Crayola227]

Mmmm. Noted.


Want to keep this Z/Dubz/genny interaction in mind.





I'm still confused by this exchange. Z, can you express further what feels different about Dina and Sloth's votes? They were made before there was anyone with multiple votes, so I don't see what you're seeing about trying to fly under the radar. I'm particularly interested because I'm not sure how to feel about Sloth and would like to think about his posts from some more angles.


Noting that kras also finds Dubz's enthusiasm noteworthy and maybe hinting it's AI? I don't know why else she would comment on it in this post. Feeling like either kras is trying to back genny up or maybe genny's feeling that Dubz's enthusiasm could be AI isn't as out-there as I thought.

Leaning w/w/v or v/v/w on kras/genny/Dubz

That feeling about kras is weak, just based on this post. I do have a strong feeling that genny and Dubz aren't packmates, though, and I'm suspicious enough of each to think there's a wolf between them. Dubz's response to my post asking about the posts that concerned me makes me feel much better about her, and I'm feeling worse and worse about genny (mainly for the same reasons Z has pointed out and her responses/lack of actual responses to his pushing her), so leaning Dubz village for now.



Thanks for clarifying! I'm going back and forth on whether this post is a good sign about alley's affiliation. On the one hand, she could have kept quiet (especially because I was not asking her directly), not pointed out that 50% of the times she's been yeeted it was correct, and went along with the idea of her being easy misyeet bait. On the other, it feels a bit off that she emphasized that yeeting her won breadsticks for village - part of villaging is avoiding being misyeeted, and this doesn't quite feel in line with that goal, almost like she's encouraging us (at least not discouraging us) to yeet her this game. I could see a wolf eagerly taking the chance to point it out, looking for village points for transparency. I'm going to say NAI for now because I can see reasons why it might be a good or bad strategy as either village or wolf.



This post is raising my eyebrows a bit given how I feel about genny. There were pages of long, analytical posts by this point, and the one you find most notable for raising good points is 30 words including 2 reads without any reasoning, 1 speculation about Dubz being 3p based on enthusiasm (this speculation really doesn't read genuine to me. I've never gotten the impression from Dubz that she would be more enthusiastic if she were 3p - I'm pretty sure she's talked on previous threads about how much fun vanilla/non-factional/basics/mountainous roles and games can be. Cray pointing out that wolf-genny often has role-hunting on the brain makes me like this speculation even less),



And what reasons did I give, exactly? I feel fine about people calling out my joke vote if they feel like I’m overexplaining - that’s subjective and if they’re getting that feeling then they should call it out - but this post feels off. Nowhere in that post am I trying to provide reasons I’m not a wolf; it’s a salt vote. Did you not read the post and just see others calling out an “overexplainy” post, get excited about an opportunity to jump on a misyeet wagon, and sheep on? It feels like you’re less concerned with the actual contents of my post and more with how you can use it.

Feeling worse about DrRoRo. Mentioning you’re new in your first post is one thing and wasn’t bothering me, but continuing to qualify subsequent posts with playing up being new is starting to get worrying. DrRoRo has now hedged both posts in which she said someone was suspicious with "but I'm new so idk".




Already mentioned above, but this exchange is very interesting and I want to bookmark it here.



I don't love a post seemingly pulling reads out of thin air. However, it doesn't feel like it's outside of Sloth's village range and could be explained by busyness. Still, if you're too busy to analyze posts then I don't really get how you're not too busy to get a read on everyone. If you did take the time to fully think these out, why not post a bit of reasoning? If you didn't, why post reads you're not confident of? Feels like maybe being more concerned with how others see you than with actually wolfhunting.

I wrote the above paragraph before I caught up with the thread and saw Sloth posting more reasoning. I have to think more about whether his reasons feel genuine, but I definitely feel better about him than when I wrote this. Still, I can't help but wonder why some people jumped a couple categories without an explanation, and I don't love that his first explanations were only the ones he was pushed on - again, looks like being more concerned with appeasing people than actual reads.






Wow this post is... quite something. Noted.

POE from most to least lupine:
genny
sloth
alley (esp if genny flips w)
DrRoRo
Dubz (weak, only if genny flips v)
kras (weak, if genny flips w/Dubz flips v)

I won't explicitly lay out my village reads yet. Most others are neutral and my few village reads have been read as villagey by others. Last game's dead chat pointed out that having an easy list of reads with a small number of people consistently showing up in village piles makes it easy for wolves to identify and target the most villagey players. I tend to be too candid and I'm trying to work on thinking harder about when info might actually be more helpful to wolves than village before I post.

I like this post.

Visc, can you tell me what you think of Kras now?

 

[kaydubs]

On Day 3, We're Shufflin' Yeet Tally

Acehunter (2) - sunshine, kras
MsP (3) - April, supershorty, Dina
LaineyLou (3) - Viscernable, vetschools, Crayola

8/12

Leading: ---

Missing: will tag next time

Yeet/Vote closes at 10pm Eastern, TODAY, Wednesday, 2/10/2021 (~13.5 HOURS)

 

[Crayola227]

**** I love enchiladas. Now I need Mexican food.

I made mole sauce with added spices that night and ate it on a cheedar and mozarella cheese quesadilla with low carb tortilla topped with red onion, avocado, cilantro, nonfat greek yogurt subbed for sour cream, and chipotles. Yumm.

 

[Crayola227]

I read it is Genny being her usual above it all self, but also it's kind of accurate especially for this game. (the "I just show up and say things" part)

More soft defense of genny lol. It's fine in line with your vote on her

 

[Crayola227]

back from lunch and some craft time and playing catchup, here's page 10-11:

it just felt way too early for me for someone to focus on a joke vote

interested to see how this goes and if she's here yet while i catch up

i don't like that the response to please explain your reads was a fairly similar looking reads list, which also had no explanations. but i'll keep reading and see if that changed.

but (and i could be wrong) i don't remember anyone pushing her to post reads

i think these z/genny interactions are interesting. maybe w/v or v/v

that seems a little complex, i think maybe 2 of them could be wolf but not all 3

this is very good advice WHICH made my little brain itch go remember when you were told to be sus of helpful people so idk if that's something that's applying here, but at least noted. I can't say much bc i try to be helpful to noobs when i can, being a nooblet myself

was cray sus of you? i can't remember

This is a whole lot of not a lot of depth.

 

[Crayola227]

They’re definitely sus

Agreeing with Genny about Visc.

 

[Crayola227]

moving on,

i don't like this vote, it read to me as genuine joke? and it seems a bit close to yeet for this to be a joke vote. if i finish my catchup and april's still on this one is definitely an eyebrow raise

interested to see where this goes. but this paired with the stuff from p4 that i mentioned makes me thing April and ace are not w/w, i don't think bussing that hard is reasonable

that is a very interesting point.

wanted to note this too and keep it in mind

also i wanted to write this here so that i dont forget, but did sloth every explain her wolfy read list side? (by that i mean the difference between ??? and neutral i dont get it) I'll go back and look for it later, but if she didn't i really don't like that she stopped her explanation at who's in village.

Could read a soft defense of genny here.

Also, I feel like school is very "softly" throwing subtle shade at players that so far have been village. Villagers can do that, but I'm not seeing much great Villagey stuff coming from schools direction.

 

[Crayola227]

1

don't you have to unyeet ace first? did i miss that?

Genny caught that Please didn't unyeet first.

Sometimes I think someone forgets to unvote first, because they have that little attachment to the vote. Meaning they're a wolf and there's nk conviction behind it. Iirc this slip has actually found us a wolf before. Not foolproof because villagers make the mistake too. But catching a wolf can be 100 little things all together.

 

[Crayola227]

I acuallu question whether genny and sunshine could be wolves together. It was something about how sunshine defended genny but they may just know genny better. By neutral I just mean not trying too hard or going over the top which gives me chill vibes=village vibes. ??? I meant like I’m suspicious but then not suspicious so I have no clue. Neutral I just don’t have much thoughts on.

Was Lainey coached by genny about how to play things? I feel like Lainey puts sus in weird places.

 

[Crayola227]

I'm only accepting reads that don't get double-back tracked on in the same paragraph. I saw a dubz, genny, and Cray wolf read. Which made little sense then and even less sense now. She may have dropped those reads now, but it's hard to tell given her vote is still parked on dubz.

I'm getting hedgy stuff from her posts and nothing outright villagey.

I think this is a great point about kras ans still true.

 

[Crayola227]

i think this gets the genny vote to 6 (maybe 7) and that's awfully big. definitely some wolves hiding in there. i don't have her strongly in either category, but i think whatever she flips it'll be interesting to see who was on the vote

Defense of genny.

 

[Crayola227]

I'm not gonna hard line call this sus, cuz I think it can go anywhich way with Dubz, esp on D1, but the off again on again pressure she's putting on different folks, the jokes that are #srsnotsrs, and general feelz is just that there's something non-vanilla going on there

Kras feels lined up against Dubz here, and I can totally see Kras knowing that the only hope and prayer should would have to make it to endgame with genny gone, is with Dubz and AM dead.

When I wolf I never let any possible NK plans stop me from openly sussing someone on thread. I could explain, but I like the WIFOM to be there, and I always hope to get lucky that village will off them for me. So this could be a wolf Kras thing.