There Be Basics WW 2021

[supershorty]

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It would've been ace and sloth which makes me less sure of ace being a wolf. Coming in and making the tie and offing two villagers sounds pretty good when you're a wolf

Yeah, that's what I mean. I said something to that effect earlier in this thread and now I'm eating dinner one handed and typing and being lazy with what I repeat lol

 

[sunshinefl]

It would've been ace and sloth which makes me less sure of ace being a wolf. Coming in and making the tie and offing two villagers sounds pretty good when you're a wolf

but, you also risk yourself with KDubs I think

 

[supershorty]

but, you also risk yourself with KDubs I think

You do, but even if a wolf died, that would have been a net loss of 1 villager if Dina and I are right about Ace.

 

[Dinashadow]

Yeah, that's what I mean. I said something to that effect earlier in this thread and now I'm eating dinner one handed and typing and being lazy with what I repeat lol

I'm watching a cardio lecture on one side of my monitor with this on the other, which is probably a really bad idea in hindsight

 

[Dinashadow]

but, you also risk yourself with KDubs I think

You do, but even if a wolf died, that would have been a net loss of 1 villager if Dina and I are right about Ace.

I don't know if MsP knew that she might die with the tie or if she knew she would either get modkilled or yeeted anyways because people were already suspicious of her D1, so she thought it was worth the risk

Or maybe even 1x death avoidance

I might be going off the deep end with that though, this is technically a basics game and it looks like wolves already had one extra kill

 

[supershorty]

Village
-alley

Spoiler: Love me some Backstreet Boys

 

[Aprilthearab]

Sorry guys I keep trying to catch up and then I get distracted after a few posts and now y'all are generating posts faster than I can catch up

 

[kaydubs]

On Day 3, We're Shufflin' Yeet Tally

Acehunter (1) - kras
MsP (3) - April, alley, LaineyLou
LaineyLou (7) - Viscernable, vetschools, Crayola, Acehunter, Dina, supershorty, sunshinefl

11/12

Leading: @LaineyLou

Missing: @Ms Procrastinator

Yeet/Vote closes at 10pm Eastern, TODAY, Wednesday, 2/10/2021 (~85 MINUTES)

 

[Dinashadow]

I went back to see if Lainey mentioned alley at any point and

What about alley?

Also when did I say AM was neutral? I clearly put her in my village reads D1. Also are you saying I voted for april, but I'm in a pack with her? I'm not following

It was just one theory I had. Also I though I put alley in but I didn’t I’ll have to go back to my spreadsheet in a minute here.

She never actually answered. Definitely should have pushed that question again

 

[sunshinefl]

Spoiler: Love me some Backstreet Boys

My favorite TV scene ever:

Spoiler: youtube link

 

[LaineyLou]

Spoiler: Love me some Backstreet Boys

Okay this is great. I still feel suspicious msp from lack of content, lack of posting and last minute posting. Im still a tad concerned on dina after looking back and seeing her post that struck me as odd (my post is 1868 if you wanna look back). And i still think that it would make sense that dina and msp and genny could be in a pack together. RN im more worried about msp due to the lack of posting and such but im seeing they may get mod killed anyway. I could definitely see dina switching votes last minute (she switched from msP to me)

 

[supershorty]

Okay this is great. I still feel suspicious msp from lack of content, lack of posting and last minute posting. Im still a tad concerned on dina after looking back and seeing her post that struck me as odd (my post is 1868 if you wanna look back). And i still think that it would make sense that dina and msp and genny could be in a pack together. RN im more worried about msp due to the lack of posting and such but im seeing they may get mod killed anyway. I could definitely see dina switching votes last minute (she switched from msP to me)

I'M ASKING ABOUT ALLEY

 

[vetschoolsletmeinplease]

Okay this is great. I still feel suspicious msp from lack of content, lack of posting and last minute posting. Im still a tad concerned on dina after looking back and seeing her post that struck me as odd (my post is 1868 if you wanna look back). And i still think that it would make sense that dina and msp and genny could be in a pack together. RN im more worried about msp due to the lack of posting and such but im seeing they may get mod killed anyway. I could definitely see dina switching votes last minute (she switched from msP to me)

as soon as you can, can you repost your reads with a little explanation next to each person?

 

[supershorty]

@LaineyLou why do you keep dodging any questions about alley?

 

[Dinashadow]

I'M ASKING ABOUT ALLEY

rage!shorty appears again

 

[supershorty]

rage!shorty appears again

No, there just seems to be confusion, so I figured big font would help.

 

[sunshinefl]

how many people are left in this game? feels like 5

 

[supershorty]

how many people are left in this game? feels like 5

12

 

[sunshinefl]

12

lol it was rhetorical

 

[supershorty]

lol it was rhetorical

Oops.

 

[supershorty]

I'm now streaming BSB at top volume (#fangirl). I can't tell if this bothers Z less or more than when I was getting dinner and going "beep, beep" under my breath.

TELL ME WHYYYYYYYYYY

 

[LaineyLou]

I'M ASKING ABOUT ALLEY

Oh gosh sorry. Alley isnt suspicious to me. Im going back through in detail and so far i feel like theyre being a good village wolf hunter doing their village duties. i keep trying to find more and sdn kicks me back to the end ***eye twitches***

 

[supershorty]

Oh gosh sorry. Alley isnt suspicious to me. Im going back through in detail and so far i feel like theyre being a good village wolf hunter doing their village duties.

Really? Hmmmm....

 

[LaineyLou]

Really? Hmmmm....

Really what?

 

[kraskadva]

So then what are your reads on the (still living) people who were on his wagon, with that in mind?

(If it helps, his wagon at max vote count was Sloth, Please, myself, Dina, Alley, and MsP)

That's the thing though... Maybe there's a wolf or two bussing in there, but with the way the vote swung yesterday, it could be all village and the wolves just pushed the sloth vote over the edge

Yeah I'm still going back and forth with ace. His reads this cycle made me feel better, but I'm aware that I might be being swayed by a wolf who is trying to hide with village now that suspicion is being thrown around. I do really want to flip MsP today though. I'm worried about how little votes she has right now despite people throwing around sus on her left and right.

I think most people just don't feel its worth voting her since she still might get modkilled tonight. If she sticks around, then worth a closer look. I don't get why nobody wants to follow up with the Ace vote now, when y'all were so gungho for it yesterday

Also, because Kras reminded me when she showed up just now (sorry Kras), I'm taking note of her inactivity in the last game when she was wolfing with me. She was mostly only on the thread when she was dragged onto it by AM and half of her posts were fighting with AM. Now, AM is not here and she is even less active, and since I don't really have much of anything else to use to read Kras/no village points to hand out there, I'm leaning that wolfy because I remembered she was considerably more active in the noob game as a villager. Even if that presence was goofy and not particularly productive, it was still presence. (I'm blanking on all the other games in between so if someone has input about those that would be appreciated)

I was on vacation that week and now I'm doing this teaching elective...so wildly different amounts of free time

 

[supershorty]

Really what?

What significant wolf hunting contributions do you think she has had?

(to be clear, Alley, I'm not trying to pick on you, I know you have life going on - I'm just picking at Lainey's logic)

 

[LaineyLou]

i

@LaineyLou why do you keep dodging any questions about alley?

just answered

 

[kraskadva]

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Sorry y'all, just had to pretend I had hepatitis and an abusive husband on zoom for M1s for 5 hrs. Gotta eat something, then I'll be back to respond to things.
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over dinner, my actual, non-abusive, husband told me that in his zoom calls in the other room, folks could hear me and he kept having to explain that I was having fake conversations and not actually talking about him.... oops!

Spoiler: Awkward

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[LaineyLou]

What significant wolf hunting contributions do you think she has had?

(to be clear, Alley, I'm not trying to pick on you, I know you have life going on - I'm just picking at Lainey's logic)

Im trying to find the exact posts but i have a million notifications and it keeps kicking me to the bottom of the thread. Gimme a mintue

 

[Aprilthearab]

**** I'm so sorry that's happening. I've been there w a crazy roommate and man it f**ks with your very core sense of safety and just f**ks up your whole life for a minute. Hang in there, please reach out if you need to talk 💕 ****

Spoiler: Brief unrelated roommate talk

I'm really glad I've never had a nasty roommate. I nearly walked in on my freshman year roommate banging like the 7th guy of the semester and I had to shove some drunk crowds out once or twice but otherwise quite painless. Seconding that, I am also always available for anyone who needs to talk any time.

I haven't gotten any wolfy vibes from sunshine, for example, but haven't necessarily gotten a ton of things that struck me as being super pro-village either - I think that's why I wasn't putting her as strong village.

I'm kind of surprised by this. I have a pretty strong village read of Sun given her arguments and thread activity, and even stronger when considering her prior village meta.

but my other thought there is she's likely to get modkilled. I think i'll switch my vote to MsP only if she shows up at the end of today and looks like she's gonna make post minimum but from the last day where she's been ???somewhere??? idk if that will happen

My impression is that's exactly what she wants us to think and I'm not liking her just skating by.

Cray has been pretty solidly in my village reads, she's playing as I've seen her play village before, but the one little thought I had that took away a village point during my catch-up is that she is throwing suspicion EVERYWHERE. I know she addressed it in a post early on last night, but that could be addressing it so that no one else can question it later. I dont necessarily think she's wolf at all, and aggro village Cray is normal, but I can't tell who her village reads are at all and that gives me a little bit of pause

Cray said at some point, either in this game or the last, that she doesn't like to advertise her village reads because she thinks it makes it easier for wolves to dismantle the village bloc. There was some kind of minor argument about it between her and another vet.

 

[kaydubs]

On Day 3, We're Shufflin' Yeet Tally

Acehunter (1) - kras
MsP (3) - April, alley, LaineyLou
LaineyLou (7) - Viscernable, vetschools, Crayola, Acehunter, Dina, supershorty, sunshinefl

11/12

Leading: @LaineyLou

Missing: @Ms Procrastinator

Yeet/Vote closes at 10pm Eastern, TODAY, Wednesday, 2/10/2021 (~60 MINUTES)

 

[sunshinefl]

Spoiler: Brief unrelated roommate talk

I'm really glad I've never had a nasty roommate. I nearly walked in on my freshman year roommate banging like the 7th guy of the semester and I had to shove some drunk crowds out once or twice but otherwise quite painless. Seconding that, I am also always available for anyone who needs to talk any time.

I'm kind of surprised by this. I have a pretty strong village read of Sun given her arguments and thread activity, and even stronger when considering her prior village meta.

My impression is that's exactly what she wants us to think and I'm not liking her just skating by.

Cray said at some point, either in this game or the last, that she doesn't like to advertise her village reads because she thinks it makes it easier for wolves to dismantle the village bloc. There was some kind of minor argument about it between her and another vet.

Cray did say that BUT she is also actively throwing shade on almost everyone. That's more than just not advertising her village block.

 

[supershorty]

she is also actively throwing shade on almost everyone. That's more than just not advertising her village block.

That seems to be not uncommon for village!Cray based on other games I've totted.

I don't remember who said it, but I've definitely felt the whiplash of being like "oh, Cray's liking my posts!" and then having her sus me right after a few times in this thread lolol

I can't get that standoff image that Z mentioned out of my head.

 

[kraskadva]

That seems to be not uncommon for village!Cray based on other games I've totted.

I don't remember who said it, but I've definitely felt the whiplash of being like "oh, Cray's liking my posts!" and then having her sus me right after a few times in this thread lolol

I can't get that standoff image that Z mentioned out of my head.

I just treat her likes like read receipts, nothing more

 

[supershorty]

I just treat her likes like read receipts, nothing more

Same with sunshine's hmm reacts.

 

[sunshinefl]

That seems to be not uncommon for village!Cray based on other games I've totted.

I don't remember who said it, but I've definitely felt the whiplash of being like "oh, Cray's liking my posts!" and then having her sus me right after a few times in this thread lolol

I can't get that standoff image that Z mentioned out of my head.

oh I agree... it's just kinda hard to analyze her by her sketch reads when everyone is making her sketch.

 

[vetschoolsletmeinplease]

Same with sunshine's hmm reacts.

im so sad sunshine didn't react hmm to this

 

[supershorty]

im so sad sunshine didn't react hmm to this

Same though.

 

[LaineyLou]

On ALLEY im not avoiding questions...

Post 133 states aprils tone has changed, discusses weird vibes by vis posts... further gives some informations and their reads. I see this as good villager giving some explanations and some theory. Post 328 shows more inquiring and explaining of why they feel april is sketchy. She discusses aprils chamge in play. she then lets us know hshes going to sleep so she doesnt just drop off the face of the planet. Post 664 states her lean for cray being village. Post 777 still contributing..... l

they contribute from what ive see and i just dont find any of their posts odd or sus

 

[sunshinefl]

im so sad sunshine didn't react hmm to this

Same though.

I debated it just to amuse you, but it would go against my react key. Like=agree.

Same with sunshine's hmm reacts.

I didn't just read it, I agree.

 

[LaineyLou]

aw man im gonna be yeeted off the island

 

[supershorty]

On ALLEY im not avoiding questions...

Post 133 states aprils tone has changed, discusses weird vibes by vis posts... further gives some informations and their reads. I see this as good villager giving some explanations and some theory. Post 328 shows more inquiring and explaining of why they feel april is sketchy. She discusses aprils chamge in play. she then lets us know hshes going to sleep so she doesnt just drop off the face of the planet. Post 664 states her lean for cray being village. Post 777 still contributing..... l

they contribute from what ive see and i just dont find any of their posts odd or sus

Why do you have alley as a stronger village read than Vissy?

 

[Aprilthearab]

Cray did say that BUT she is also actively throwing shade on almost everyone. That's more than just not advertising her village block.

I still think that is very typical Cray. Has been discussed before:

Okay. Some people put everyone in the village category and move them into neutral or wolf as they become more sus. Some people start everyone in neutral and move them up or down as the game progresses.

Cray on the other hand assumes everyone is a wolf, and you’ve got to work really hard to prove otherwise. But if you work too hard, thats also sus.

Cray’s meta comes across as a survivalist in a post apocalyptic world, whose stuck in a Mexican standoff, only she’s holding all the guns.

I don’t think it’s wolfy, I think it comes from playing experience, and being stabbed in the back too many times by people she trusted to be village.

But it’s also only my 2nd game (2.5 if you count the speed game), so take my opinion with a grain of salt.

Although I do recognize your argument and I would be willing to re-analyze Cray later in the game if it came down to it.

 

[Dinashadow]

aw man im gonna be yeeted off the island

Want to tell us who your packmates are before you leave?

 

[vetschoolsletmeinplease]

On ALLEY im not avoiding questions...

Post 133 states aprils tone has changed, discusses weird vibes by vis posts... further gives some informations and their reads. I see this as good villager giving some explanations and some theory. Post 328 shows more inquiring and explaining of why they feel april is sketchy. She discusses aprils chamge in play. she then lets us know hshes going to sleep so she doesnt just drop off the face of the planet. Post 664 states her lean for cray being village. Post 777 still contributing..... l

they contribute from what ive see and i just dont find any of their posts odd or sus

what do you think of her interactions with other people, why is she village and not ???

 

[Ms Procrastinator]

this b why people questioning it. when drroro was removed, both of you guys had the same activity level (I think drroro asked to leave)

Maybe he asked to be modkilled or there wasn't a sub. That's the only thing that makes sense

 

[supershorty]

PLOT TWIST

@Dinashadow idk I think I might leave my vote where it is

 

[Aprilthearab]

Oh boy she's here. This is exactly what I thought was going to happen

 

[vetschoolsletmeinplease]

as soon as MsP gets to 5 posts I'm moving my vote.

 

[supershorty]

as soon as MsP gets to 5 posts I'm moving my vote.

We will need 4 votes to switch from Lainey to MsP to change the yeet and NOT tie.

Just FYI.

I will if other people will.