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Thoughts on the new MCCQE1 Requirement for IMGs

Discussion in 'Canada' started by vanmed93, Apr 16, 2018 at 3:24 AM.

  1. vanmed93

    Apr 5, 2016
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    Medical Student (Accepted)
    Hi guys - first post on here. I am a Canadian in my 2nd year of 4 at the Royal College of Surgeons in Ireland. I expect to graduate June 2020, so will apply to CaRMS in Fall 2019. I am originally from BC so goal would be rural family med back in BC somewhere (although as an IMG am open to anywhere of course).

    My match year will be the first where we will not write the MCCEE and instead sit the MCCQE1. I do not know a whole lot about this exam, but I understand from some of my resident/final med friends that to write this in the spring of my third year (which is what would be required in order to have the scores back in time for the Fall 2019 CaRMS application) would be extremely difficult as you have not yet had sufficient clinical training (I would only be 3-4 months into my clinical year).

    I can't image taking a year off between medical school and applying to residency looks great - although I know many people do this - and to be honest I would rather avoid that if I can.

    CaRMS or any of the medical schools haven't released info on how they will assess the scores (i.e. will they compare to applicants of that year only, or compare to the scores of people who have written it previously). Obviously that will dictate what the stronger scores are.

    Just wondering your thoughts and if you have any other info/advice. Greatly appreciated! Feeling very very lost trying to navigate this world. Seems like the Canadian Medical Council and Medical Schools just keep adding roadblocks to make it increasingly difficult for Canadian IMGs to make it back home.
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  3. UBC2014

    Aug 25, 2014
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    Make sure to look directly at UBCs website, you will have to do the Clinical Assessment Program and NAC OSCE.

    Clinical Assessment Program | International Medical Graduate Office

    Honestly havent looked into the new QE1 changes much, will ask around and repost if i get anything.

    If you just want FM, you're better off taking the USMLEs and getting a FM residency in the US. Far bigger gaurantee of getting a spot.

    You say you want a "rural fm spot" back in BC, many of the IMG spots in BC are based out of St pauls. Getting ANY FM spot in BC is extremely difficult and you have a low chance of success. Any FM spot via CaRMS in general for IMGs is tough, you're competing with a vast pool of applicants. Much safer to do the USMLES and secure a residency in the US for FM. Easy route back to Canada, you'll be paid better and get good strong training that is more hospitalist based too.

    Definitely do NOT write QE1 in 3rd year. That would be absurd. If you can take it at the end of your 3rd year, and have sufficient time to prep for it, then maybe? Depends on how long of a summer break you get between m3 and m4..as well what the deadlines for scores would be for the 2020 CARMS match.

    Doesnt seem like there is much info about the new changes etc... Since MCCEE is being phased out, that would mean the UBC CAP program will have some changes too.

    You can avoid all this headache and confusion by taking the USMLES and securing a US FM rez.

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