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Game of Thrones is amazing, best show on tv. I was a big fan of Spartacus and The Walking Dead before their current seasons which have both been disappointing. I feel like they didn't have enough story for the number of episodes this season in The Walking Dead (aka The Farming Dead). Also, they transformed the majority of the cast into uninteresting *****s. Breaking Bad has been consistently amazing-- I'll be interested to see how the story wraps up in the final season.
 
HiddenG, Apparently the new season of Breaking Bad is really explosive, like even more so than last season. And that says a lot, we shall see.

I never got into Sons of Anarchy. I little too overacted and overdone for my taste...

Glad this thread is getting good attention!

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Saw someone mentioned House up there...

Is anyone on here a badass like House MD? Anyone try any of his antics while at work?

I'm looking forward to breaking bad too!
 
Surprised there isn't more love for The Wire: the dynamics and interests of varying characters is just raw and real.

Walking Dead is intriguing yet you get annoyed at how consistently the team makes so many damn mistakes every episode. So frustrating.

Mad Men- a little slow...half the scenes are irrelevant but still entertaining nonetheless.

Eastbound and Down- first season was epic and just timeless. Second season lacked, third season is slightly better but the antics are just getting out of control.

Dexter: great show, interesting to see where the show goes after the latest episode.

Breaking Bad- brilliant. Parallels Dexter in so many ways, but you just have to love the genius moves, twists, spins, deception, and manipulation.

Workaholics- decent, but a couple of the characters can get really annoying really fast. Episodes are hit or miss.
 
Surprised there isn't more love for The Wire: the dynamics and interests of varying characters is just raw and real.

Walking Dead is intriguing yet you get annoyed at how consistently the team makes so many damn mistakes every episode. So frustrating.

Mad Men- a little slow...half the scenes are irrelevant but still entertaining nonetheless.

Eastbound and Down- first season was epic and just timeless. Second season lacked, third season is slightly better but the antics are just getting out of control.

Dexter: great show, interesting to see where the show goes after the latest episode.

Breaking Bad- brilliant. Parallels Dexter in so many ways, but you just have to love the genius moves, twists, spins, deception, and manipulation.

Workaholics- decent, but a couple of the characters can get really annoying really fast. Episodes are hit or miss.

The Wire is still my all time favorite. It never gets old. The Corner was also worked on by David Simon, really great. Never watched Homicide. Do you watch Treme? Is it good?
 


Holy crap! I had no idea there were this many reality tv shows out there! 😱

Anybody on here miss Scrubs? That show was awesome. I firmly stood by my opinion that it was the most realistic medical show there was... 😎 After it switched networks, and they tried to do the "med school" thing it kinda blew. I'm working on getting all the other seasons on DVD, though.
 
Thats probably 1/2 of the reality shows out there. I don't see a kardashian, Hilton,
Housewife or snooki in that graphic. It only gets worse.
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Thats probably 1/2 of the reality shows out there. I don't see a kardashian, Hilton,
Housewife or snooki in that graphic. It only gets worse.
d712

:eyebrow::barf:

Well, I would say that I don't watch any reality TV... but I guess I kinda ruined that by admitting to Top Shot and Ultimate Fighter. :laugh: At least I watch those shows just for the competition side of things... that makes it ok, right? Right? 🙄

sigh. Back to getting multi-thousand dollar bids to fix my leaking basement. :meanie:
 
The Wire is still my all time favorite. It never gets old. The Corner was also worked on by David Simon, really great. Never watched Homicide. Do you watch Treme? Is it good?

Watched the first four or five EPs of Treme. Very decent show but a different breed than the Wire (less procedural, but still has the same level of slow character buildup and nonexplanatory immersion into a created world)...that being said, I think any David Simon fan would probably like it.
 
:eyebrow::barf:

Well, I would say that I don't watch any reality TV... but I guess I kinda ruined that by admitting to Top Shot and Ultimate Fighter. :laugh: At least I watch those shows just for the competition side of things... that makes it ok, right? Right? 🙄

sigh. Back to getting multi-thousand dollar bids to fix my leaking basement. :meanie:

It makes it somewhat excusable. Somewhat. 😛
 
They need a circle in the diagram for shows about people that have more kids than they should and one for little people. Maybe another one for people who exploit their kids through dance, cheer, or pageants. There is some fascination about those entities.
I never saw the show, but I saw a commercial a couple years ago for "The Little Choclatiers." Little people who ran a chocolate factory. As far as I could tell, Willy Wonka was not involved.
 
Then they also had one about kids running a town (which was in the middle of nowhere) on their "own". Needless to say, that didn't go over to well with the parents' groups...

Anyone watch Showtime's newest series, "House of Lies" yet? First season...

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The League
Modern Family
South Park
Tosh.O
The Soup
random nature shows on PBS
Antiques Roadshow... yeah, I said it, Antiques Roadshow
 
Alright,

I've been watching Newsroom. Absolutely loved the pilot, and that's saying a lot coming from me. Episode #2 great, 3 a little lull but #4 last night was about the best hour of television I have seen in my 39 years. I mean, F-ING brilliant writing and acting, directing, the whole goddamned production was superb.

Sorkin is known in the circles as an A list of A list writers, and nobody will ever argue that he makes a secret of how he feels about a subject, but that's what good writing does: makes you think and debate and wonder and question and disagree etc. Otherwise, there's no real reason to write drama.

Sam Waterston, Jeff Daniels (F U to the casting directors out there who continue to typecast actors - this is the Jeff Daniels from DUMB AND DUMBER) and Emily Mortimer, three impeccable actors, and nobody is better in this show than Waterston, Daniels is up there though.

Haven't seen the Breaking Bad season premier, so no spoilers please. 🙂 Weeds final season has gone right off the tracks, too bad. Writing was once amazing, it's now rushed, trite and on the nose. Exposition is so clunky too. Ick.

If you have NOT seen Newsroom - and you are a fan of excellent television, PLEASE do yourself a favor and catch up on the DVR or whatever. It's on HBO.

I gotta call my agent... 😉

D712

p.s. as a writer, I love that Sorkin RIPPED reality TV a new arse on last night's episode. AMEN.
 
D712,
Is "writing" for "reality" shows a recognized sub specialty of writing? Or is it just called "coaching"?
😀

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“The truth is incontrovertible, malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end; there it is.”

It's called "career ending" 😀

D712
 
Alright,

I've been watching Newsroom. Absolutely loved the pilot, and that's saying a lot coming from me. Episode #2 great, 3 a little lull but #4 last night was about the best hour of television I have seen in my 39 years. I mean, F-ING brilliant writing and acting, directing, the whole goddamned production was superb.

Sorkin is known in the circles as an A list of A list writers, and nobody will ever argue that he makes a secret of how he feels about a subject, but that's what good writing does: makes you think and debate and wonder and question and disagree etc. Otherwise, there's no real reason to write drama.


If you have NOT seen Newsroom - and you are a fan of excellent television, PLEASE do yourself a favor and catch up on the DVR or whatever. It's on HBO.

I gotta call my agent... 😉

For someone who claims to be a fan of Breaking Bad, to say that the last episode of The Newsroom was the best hour of television you've ever seen makes me wonder.

The Newsroom is a smug and pretentious exercise in masturbation by your beloved Aaron Sorkin. The portions I bolded in your post point this out explicitly. I will never deny the man's talent (A Few Good Men alone makes him a legend), but how are we to engage in any sort of debate when the events portrayed on the show already occurred 2 years ago?

Of course it feels good to watch, because we can wish that Will McAvoy had been there in real life to take on idiots that allowed the Gulf oil spill to happen, or bust the Tea Party's balls. But it didn't. In reality, it takes dozens of reporters weeks to piece together stories that this one little newsroom does in a matter of hours. I'm sure the people that worked their asses off unearthing these facts feel great about this.

Also, there is not 1 redeeming female on the show. Every female character is a cheater, dishonest, manipulative, or incapable of maintaining a normal social life despite being incredibly hot and having 2 phD's.
If you'd like to see incredible female character development, watch Mad Men. Those women still get their hands dirty, but you understand why, and can empathize with them.
 
For someone who claims to be a fan of Breaking Bad, to say that the last episode of The Newsroom was the best hour of television you've ever seen makes me wonder.

The Newsroom is a smug and pretentious exercise in masturbation by your beloved Aaron Sorkin. The portions I bolded in your post point this out explicitly. I will never deny the man's talent (A Few Good Men alone makes him a legend), but how are we to engage in any sort of debate when the events portrayed on the show already occurred 2 years ago?

Of course it feels good to watch, because we can wish that Will McAvoy had been there in real life to take on idiots that allowed the Gulf oil spill to happen, or bust the Tea Party's balls. But it didn't. In reality, it takes dozens of reporters weeks to piece together stories that this one little newsroom does in a matter of hours. I'm sure the people that worked their asses off unearthing these facts feel great about this.

Also, there is not 1 redeeming female on the show. Every female character is a cheater, dishonest, manipulative, or incapable of maintaining a normal social life despite being incredibly hot and having 2 phD's.
If you'd like to see incredible female character development, watch Mad Men. Those women still get their hands dirty, but you understand why, and can empathize with them.

Well, everyone is entitled to their opinion. I am a fan of Breaking Bad, and Newsroom, what is the confusion here? Two completely distinct shows. Breaking Bad has its faults, and so does Newsroom. There.

Newsroom isn't smug and pretentious, it's actually full of heart. I understand how Sorkin's writing can intimidate, but between the acting and writing on this show, it will go down as brilliant in the annals of TV history. And it's certainly not an exercise in masturbation, say, like Being John Malkovich or anything else written by Charlie Kauffman.

I bolded the item in your post that to me makes the littlest sense. I've actually never heard that argument, it's just silliness. With respect. Let's see, The Help took place when? Did that not spark thought about how african americans were treated prior to civil rights? How about Schindler's List? Took place during the Reich. Makes you think, right? King's Speech. Munich. The Artist Capote, even movies like Forest Gump and Catch Me if you Can dealt with relevant themes. I could go on but I'm coming up with films off the cuff here. The idea that a television show or movie cannot handle an important theme because that theme does not take place in 2012 or the current time, is totally ludicrous. To put it bluntly. Themes are themes no matter when they take place. Time has nothing to do with it. Especially from a writing standpoint. And further, the device Sorkin uses, who is certainly short of beloved in my mind, rather a wonderfully talented writer, of using news from 2 years ago, to handle topics that were etched in stone, is brilliant.

Oh, we also disagree on Emily Mortimer's character. Her redemption will unfold through the show's arc. It's already begun. Look what she's done with Will's character over 4 episodes. That transition takes a network series 26 episodes to accomplish what I've seen in 4 here. There are also a redeeming and less than redeeming male characters on the show, if you hadn't noticed. 😉

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I was thoroughly entertained by the last ep of Newsroom and I'm a fan of the setting being just a couple years ago, but cmon....Sorkin is self-aggrandizing, preachy, and pretentious as **** and everyone outside of a writers' room knows it. This show is never gonna be another West Wing, but I'll still keep watching as long as they tone it down with all the eyeroll-worthy "bbbut Will McAvoy is a republican and he's making all these factual points!!!11" moments. And for my money, BB is where it's at (barring Anna Gunn's terrible impersonation of the "scared wife").
 
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Well, everyone is entitled to their opinion. I am a fan of Breaking Bad, and Newsroom, what is the confusion here? Two completely distinct shows. Breaking Bad has its faults, and so does Newsroom. There.

Newsroom isn't smug and pretentious, it's actually full of heart. I understand how Sorkin's writing can intimidate, but between the acting and writing on this show, it will go down as brilliant in the annals of TV history. And it's certainly not an exercise in masturbation, say, like Being John Malkovich or anything else written by Charlie Kauffman.

I bolded the item in your post that to me makes the littlest sense. I've actually never heard that argument, it's just silliness. With respect. Let's see, The Help took place when? Did that not spark thought about how african americans were treated prior to civil rights? How about Schindler's List? Took place during the Reich. Makes you think, right? King's Speech. Munich. The Artist Capote, even movies like Forest Gump and Catch Me if you Can dealt with relevant themes. I could go on but I'm coming up with films off the cuff here. The idea that a television show or movie cannot handle an important theme because that theme does not take place in 2012 or the current time, is totally ludicrous. To put it bluntly. Themes are themes no matter when they take place. Time has nothing to do with it. Especially from a writing standpoint. And further, the device Sorkin uses, who is certainly short of beloved in my mind, rather a wonderfully talented writer, of using news from 2 years ago, to handle topics that were etched in stone, is brilliant.

D712

You said that the show "makes you think and debate and wonder and question and disagree etc. Otherwise, there's no real reason to write drama."

There is very little to disagree with. McAvoy's stance on the Gulf oil spill was that it was a failure of regulatory oversight and corportate incompetence. What part of that do you disagree with?

His view on the Tea Party was that they were shifting the views of the Republican party to the right, and many of the members did not know that corporations were funding the movement. Is there any room to disagree with that statement?

This is like having an argument about whether the earth goes around the sun, or vice versa.

You bring up the term "themes." What is the theme of The Newsroom? I'm guessing its that the news being delivered to Americans is often clouded by political and corporate biases. Important things happen in America that don't make it to the nightly news intentionally.

Would any intelligent person disagree with that statement?

Sorkin's writing isn't intimidating. It is (in this instance) smug. He travels back in time and wags his finger at people having the omipotent benefit of 20/20 hindsight. He is the horrible best man who gives a toast detailing every stupid drunken activity and sexual conquest the groom ever had at a reception full of family.

Did The Help or Forrest Gump really enlighten anyone to the fact that African Americans weren't treated well in the 1950's? Does anyone disagree with this?

Did Shindler's List and Munich blow the door off the whole Holocaust scene?

I never said you had to be current to spark debate, but you cannot debate facts. You cannot debate the fact that the regulatory oversight of offshore drilling was inadequate in 2010. You CAN debate that it was the federal government's responsibility, or that it was BP's responsibility etc. The Newsroom did not take a stand.

We have all looked back at times in our life and said to ourselves "I should have said this..." That is why we have an emotional response to this show, because it is a vehicle to do such a thing for the biggest screw ups in the world at that time. At the end of the day, "I told you so" is hollow and meaningless just like this show.
 
I don't know what to tell you about Newsroom, HollywoodA. You don't like it, I'm not here to try and make you love Newsroom. I could answer your questions, but you have very strong opinions about the show. Flip the channel.

Cheers,
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I've been watching Newsroom as well. I'm pretty sure Will McAvoy already exists - he's Keith Olbermann right?

It's decent enough my wife and I have been watching it, but that mainly is because there isn't anything on right now interesting besides Louie (!) and Breaking Bad.
 
What's funny about people who crap on Sorkin is they call him smug, and pretentious and bla bla bla. I don't know the guy, but it's like saying, "Man, Bryan Cranston must be a really crazy human being in real life, what a jerk..." Sorkin is WRITING for characters. He's creating characters, he's creating a world, of "heroes without capes" in his own words. People love villains and heroes if they're donned in frigging Vampire or Zombie costumes.

Enjoy Twilight.

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What about awesome 80s cartoons?

I like MASK and Saber Rider. Remember those? Killer.

As for movies, Galaxy Express 999 and Captain Harlock were awesome too. So is Nausicaa.
 
What's funny about people who crap on Sorkin is they call him smug, and pretentious and bla bla bla. I don't know the guy, but it's like saying, "Man, Bryan Cranston must be a really crazy human being in real life, what a jerk..." Sorkin is WRITING for characters. He's creating characters, he's creating a world, of "heroes without capes" in his own words. People love villains and heroes if they're donned in frigging Vampire or Zombie costumes.

Enjoy Twilight.

D712

While retorting to the claim that Sorkin's writing in The Newsroom is pretentious, you have said the following

"... I understand how Sorkin's writing can intimidate..."

and here you say that anyone that thinks Sorkin's writing is pretentious must be a teeny bopper Twilight fan.

Both of these statements reek of pretentiousness. You are a snake eating its own tail.
 
I never used the terms "teeny" or "bopper". 😀

Intimidating is doing some fancy induction or blind intubation technique or
A CA-1's POV of some fancy smooth as silk wake up and extubation. Or
Incubation as it were. 😉. There's nothing pretentious about it. Get it?
For some audiences, or writers or actors, Sorkins' insanely fast paced dialogue
Is REALLY just...intimidating.

I wouldn't get all riled up over it.

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What's funny about people who crap on Sorkin is they call him smug, and pretentious and bla bla bla. I don't know the guy, but it's like saying, "Man, Bryan Cranston must be a really crazy human being in real life, what a jerk..." Sorkin is WRITING for characters. He's creating characters, he's creating a world, of "heroes without capes" in his own words. People love villains and heroes if they're donned in frigging Vampire or Zombie costumes.

Enjoy Twilight.

D712

You realize that not everyone who disagrees with you is conflating Sorkin's character writing with Sorkin himself, right? No one is (just) calling Will McAvoy's character smug and pretentious, we're simply noting that the overarching tone of the show fits that description as well.

Both of these statements reek of pretentiousness. You are a snake eating its own tail.

Seriously, the irony is about to reach critical mass...
 
You realize that not everyone who disagrees with you is conflating Sorkin's character writing with Sorkin himself, right? No one is (just) calling Will McAvoy's character smug and pretentious, we're simply noting..

I do. I don't think the show itself, thematically, is pretentious at all.
Anyway, gonna watch last nights ep now. 🙂

D712
 
Breaking bad
Walking dead
Sparticus
South Park

Agreed except for South Park. Dexter was a favorite but this past season was pretty terrible, I thought. The one before that, mediocre.

I may just have to check out Homeland given all the great reviews on this thread.

I agree with the other poster about the new Spartacus being a bit of a pansy. Hell, they can't even airbrush some muscle on that dude. He should at least do a cycle or two. Afterall, it's his career....
 
Just discovered The Green Wing on Netflix. British, reminds me of Scrubs a little. Worth checking out.

Also on Netflix and also British and hilarious, The In-Betweeners. Comedy gold. Not unlike 21 minute episodes of Superbad.
 
I'm sort of in a television lull. Newsroom is off until next season, same with Breaking Bad which finishes its season in the summer 2013 I believe, American Horror Story (guilty pleasure) is off until mid January because ratings drop now anyways, Hell on Wheels finished its second season with a GREAT episode, got picked up for a new season, lost its showrunner, got put on hold, hired a new show runner, and now is back on track for more episodes, and lastly, Copper, is also just recently renewed for another season, but is off the air for now. Not even Archer has premiered the new seasons' eps yet. And Homeland finished up their run a couple weeks ago...don't wanna give away any spoilers, but I think our favorite bad guy is off to the sunset.

For me, I'm off to LA in January for an script interview, if I get this script, it'll be the best script for my career to date, hands down. Major network, great director, top of the line exec. producers, a guy we all know is behind this one, really looking forward to it. Trying to crank out my next drama pilot at the same time, my MEDICAL SERIES!!!, and also awaiting news on couple of my other dramas and a sitcom I churned out too.

But still, nothing grabbing my attention on TV at the moment...

When I was in the UK a couple years back, I bought the Green Wing series, and brought it home, couldn't find on TV in US then. Well done series.

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I like Newsroom. It's ridiculous to have a show about unbiased reporting that has nearly 100% left-wing bias, but it's still a good show. The interview of the gay black Santorum supporter is probably the least biased segment on the show, painful to watch but good and not unfair like the misguided Tea Party attacks that are part of every episode.

I also like:
Breaking Bad
Weeds
Game of Thrones
Downton Abbey
Always Sunny
South Park

The best shows ever were:
The Wire
Lost
Arrested Development
 
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The best shows ever were:
The Wire
Lost
Arrested Development

I bought Arrested Develpoment because of comments here and had a hard time finishing season 1; i found it irritating "qui pro quo" all over the place...
 
I also like:
Breaking Bad
Weeds
Game of Thrones
Downton Abbey
Always Sunny
South Park

The best shows ever were:
The Wire
Lost
Arrested Development

Some good shows there, Weeds was fantastic television, but the last few seasons it lost its place IMHO. But I'd say seasons 1-3 were just fantastic. The shows' creator has a new series in production, Orange is the New Black, based on the book, I think it's a straight to Netflix series about a woman in Prison. If it's anything like early Weeds, it will be fun to watch. Justin Kirk's (Andy) early Weeds work was brilliant. I've never seen Downton Abbey, but I'm debating getting into it. Can't go wrong with South Park, and if you're a fan of irreverence, google, "Rick and Steve the Happiest Gay Couple in the World" and you will see animation funnier than South Park.

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I bought Arrested Develpoment because of comments here and had a hard time finishing season 1; i found it irritating "qui pro quo" all over the place...

Anyone want to comment on the finale to Homeland without giving it away. Or maybe put SPOILER ALERT in red above the comments...

I didn't love it, but it certainly sets up next season...

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Homeland S2:

Not as good as S1, still great TV, definitely my favorite current show (though this season of Dexter redeemed the series a ton). Overall I feel like Season 2 was originally supposed to be the end but they reimagined it to continue the series, felt a tad forced at the end in order to continue. But yes, def sets up future season(s)
 
I'm also starting to enjoy Boardwalk Empire, series started a little slow, and has lulls at times mid season but season 2 ended amazingly and I'm currently only a few episodes into S3. I love the series like this where it's mostly about the complicated interplay and deceit between characters, but you have to be invested in the characters for this to work otherwise it just comes off as slow.
 
Homeland S2:

Not as good as S1, still great TV, definitely my favorite current show (though this season of Dexter redeemed the series a ton). Overall I feel like Season 2 was originally supposed to be the end but they reimagined it to continue the series, felt a tad forced at the end in order to continue. But yes, def sets up future season(s)

Just an FYI, season two of Homeland wasn't going to, or wasn't ever intended to, wrap up the series. The last episode of a season like Homeland, is created months and months ahead of when it is even shot, or scripted, in creating the entire arc of the season. It was planned that way well before episode one of season two was ever scripted.

But more to your point, yeah, it was well done, and the ending was personal preference, I didn't love it either. A couple big holes, but such is the case when you are dealing with all these lives and circles and secrets and conceits...

D712
 
Just finished a scene where an Anesthesia M&M conference ends up with the presenting resident in tears, one 80 year old attending quits his position and a Chairman gets planted on his ass.

I await my fate on Hollywood Anesthesia's List of Shamefully unrealistic medical moments.

😀

D712
 
Just finished a scene where an Anesthesia M&M conference ends up with the presenting resident in tears, one 80 year old attending quits his position and a Chairman gets planted on his ass.

I await my fate on Hollywood Anesthesia's List of Shamefully unrealistic medical moments.

😀

D712

Let me guess, the resident was on trauma call and got a gunshot wound case, treated it like a pistol wound but it in fact was an assault weapon :meanie:
 
Let me guess, the resident was on trauma call and got a gunshot wound case, treated it like a pistol wound but it in fact was an assault weapon :meanie:

No. Hilarious. That would be, what we call, "on the nose". 😀

You want the fabricated case I used? Here it is:

It's M&M, 7am, junior resident presenting. Mexican-themed breakfast spread this month, burritos. But there are always bagels. So, burritos and bagels.

The case: 9 y/o male sp T&A returns to hospital with blood tinged sputum, low grade fever, complaining of throat pain. Got triaged and is on his way to the OR for a re-do on a bleeder with ENT. (all being presented by young CA-1 or 2).

Preop by our junior resident: an IV and 1mg Midaz. (remember, I need to have this kid screw up, so this is the first area for debate)
Debate: do you give 1mg Midaz to a kid that might have a difficult airway? if you overdo it, he risks aspirating, yes? BUT, the kid is screaming and crying so the junior dude gave it to calm down that BP and avoid increasing any bleed rate. But, I'm told, it's debatable...

Induction: Ketamine 1.5mg/kg and Rocuronium .6mg/kg. (debate #2: should he have used Roc or Sux, Chairman screams that he should have used Sux because it's on and off faster, giving a better chance to ventilate when the time is right. Jr. Resident, seems to recall a family history of MH. Still Chairman rips him an ass over choice of paralytic.)

On the OR table, Jr. resident is now facing a can't intubate, can't ventilate situation. Bloody airway that is getting bloodier.
Calls for ENT to get a surgical airway!!!

Smash to: ENT is slamming a Nurse in his office.

Jr. Resident decides to do the trach himself, but since the airway is so ferchlempt, he intubates the tissue area, and not the airway or the esophagus btw, not that the later would help.

Hypoxia, CPR, Death. Mom distraught. In for a T&A in the morning, out in a body bag at night. Maybe mom shouldn't have insisted boy get discharged home so fast in order to get her
afternoon of alcohol drinking underway....

All meds and doses confirmed with Peds Anesthesiologist, and the case itself, remember, this is just TV folks!

Coming to a boobtube near you! : )

D712
 
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No. Hilarious. That would be, what we call, "on the nose". 😀

You want the fabricated case I used? Here it is:

It's M&M, 7am, junior resident presenting. Mexican-themed breakfast spread this month, burritos. But there are always bagels. So, burritos and bagels.

The case: 9 y/o male sp T&A returns to hospital with blood tinged sputum, low grade fever, complaining of throat pain. Got triaged and is on his way to the OR for a re-do on a bleeder with ENT. (all being presented by young CA-1 or 2).

Preop by our junior resident: an IV and 1mg Midaz. (remember, I need to have this kid screw up, so this is the first area for debate)
Debate: do you give 1mg Midaz to a kid that might have a difficult airway? if you overdo it, he risks aspirating, yes? BUT, the kid is screaming and crying so the junior dude gave it to calm down that BP and avoid increasing any bleed rate. But, I'm told, it's debatable...

Induction: Ketamine 1.5mg/kg and Rocuronium .6mg/kg. (debate #2: should he have used Roc or Sux, Chairman screams that he should have used Sux because it's on and off faster, giving a better chance to ventilate when the time is right. Jr. Resident, seems to recall a family history of MH. Still Chairman rips him an ass over choice of paralytic.)

On the OR table, Jr. resident is now facing a can't intubate, can't ventilate situation. Bloody airway that is getting bloodier.
Calls for ENT to get a surgical airway!!!

Smash to: ENT is slamming a Nurse in his office.

Jr. Resident decides to do the trach himself, but since the airway is so ferchlempt, he intubates the tissue area, and not the airway or the esophagus btw, not that the later would help.

Hypoxia, CPR, Death. Mom distraught. In for a T&A in the morning, out in a body bag at night. Maybe mom shouldn't have insisted boy get discharged home so fast in order to get her
afternoon of alcohol drinking underway....

All meds and doses confirmed with Peds Anesthesiologist, and the case itself, remember, this is just TV folks!

Coming to a boobtube near you! : )

D712

Sorry, don't like it. Makes us look bad on a national stage. Make it a CRNA. ;-)
 
Sorry, don't like it. Makes us look bad on a national stage. Make it a CRNA. ;-)

or save the kid by a CA-3

BTW the ENT should have been in the OR - scrubbed - ready to go - so I can't really see how the heck could he have been with a nurse in the office.
and if there are Anrsthesia residents doing ENT cases - there should be ENT residents in the room, even if the attending is screwing ( can't avoid that theme guys, can you? you will find out that the main desire in residency is mostly sleep. alone :laugh:
 
Thanks Hoyden and Scud,

The series focuses on amazing and highly competent Anesthesiologists. So, I'm not worried about the balance between them doing good and bad, it's overwhelmingly good. And the way the scene reads, it's really more about the relationships between the docs than what happened in the OR.

Can't paint this rose-colored the entire series, then you guys will call me Sorkin!!! 😀

I debated the ENT thing, with him in the OR or not, and I still may change it to add in an ENT, my consultant/friend on this said the ENT would try the airway anyway, so I needed a reason for him not to be present. Alcoholic, drug user or having sex. It's not decided, but from a story point, I need this CA-1 to be the dude who messes up. Ups the stakes for this episode.

👍
D712
 
Thanks Hoyden and Scud,

The series focuses on amazing and highly competent Anesthesiologists. So, I'm not worried about the balance between them doing good and bad, it's overwhelmingly good. And the way the scene reads, it's really more about the relationships between the docs than what happened in the OR.

Can't paint this rose-colored the entire series, then you guys will call me Sorkin!!! 😀

I debated the ENT thing, with him in the OR or not, and I still may change it to add in an ENT, my consultant/friend on this said the ENT would try the airway anyway, so I needed a reason for him not to be present. Alcoholic, drug user or having sex. It's not decided, but from a story point, I need this CA-1 to be the dude who messes up. Ups the stakes for this episode.

👍
D712


I understand - it's entertainment, after all. Just legally and on oral boards presentation this is a big NO - the absence of the ENT in the room - ready to trach NOW
The other part is - one won't, probably try to perform a trach, but can slide an angiocath through the cricothyroid membrane
 
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