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Yea the tuition is a little high for sure. I need my W-2 bad so I can file my FAFSA as well. I sent in my application for a scholarship on Dec 1 and still havent heard back yet. It would be nice to get some free cheddar from UM.
 
Yea the tuition is a little high for sure. I need my W-2 bad so I can file my FAFSA as well. I sent in my application for a scholarship on Dec 1 and still havent heard back yet. It would be nice to get some free cheddar from UM.
Mmmm cheddar....aged cheddar... 🙂

Just got my W-2. Am I supposed to estimate on that?
 
I submitted mine w/o my tax info cuz I don't have an income ha! My dad didn't want to give me his info so I left the parent part blank too. I already received some $ from UM so I just need a loan to cover the rest of the tuition/books whatever cuz I'll be living in the lap of luxury at home. 😀
 
I like your signature facewait. It took about a month before I heard anything back for UM about a scholarship. :luck:
 
I submitted mine w/o my tax info cuz I don't have an income ha! My dad didn't want to give me his info so I left the parent part blank too. I already received some $ from UM so I just need a loan to cover the rest of the tuition/books whatever cuz I'll be living in the lap of luxury at home. 😀
You wrote the essay for the diversity scholarship, or they just gave you the money?
 
Hi Everyone,

I was accepted to UM-Miami last fall and am thrilled!! I was wondering about the scholarship form. How many of you that have completed the form have heard back with an award? I am just trying to get a sense if I will hear anything back. Do they base it on diversity or economics? And if its diversity does that just mean your ethnicity or your life experiences as well?

Thanks.
 
It is based for sure on your life experiences, not sure if ethnicity is included or not though. I called them about 2 weeks ago and asked about the scholarship since it was complete for over a month and the office said that they havent had a meeting in a while and probably wont have one for at least a month. I am pretty sure we will hear one way or another, hopefully sooner rather than later.
 
Yeah, thanks for the info guys. Hopefully with my life experiences they will take pity on me and give me some dough.
 
When I give tours at the Boca campus, I explain what kinds of things UM is looking for in its scholarship application. Email me if you need further clarification. I don't want to post my diversity story on this board.
 
The silence is killing me. Talk people, talk. I want to trump those other threads and show everyone how cool we are 🙂
 
So, I have a question...once we submit our fafsa do the individual med schools' financial aid office decide how much $ we can take out in our loan?
 
My FAFSA was just processed and sent to the medical schools (USF and Miami). What is the next step now?
 
What sort of financial aid came we expect from the FAFSA? Will it just be federal loans?
 
I had this same question, and asked an MS1 about this issue through PM. I was told to contact Joyce Biederman about this issue and here is the response I got.

Hi GeauxMD,
I am here to help you find summer research. However, I work with students who are willing to volunteer...in rare cases the research is funded, but most of the time it is on a voluntary basis.
If you would like my help, please provide me with the following:
1) Completed application www.miami.edu/pdcg Do not press the "submit" button at the end of the application. We are having technical difficulties and the application will not reach me...you can either copy and paste and send as an attachment, or fax to me.
2) Current resume
Once I have the 2 documents we can discuss options. If you are seeking a paid summer experience, I am sorry but I will not be able to help you.
Best,
Mrs. B


This really worries me. Every other school I interviewed at mentioned that there was lots of funding for summer research if you are interested. I have tried to contact other faculty members about this issue but have not gotten any replies. Will a current student please speak to this issue and let me know if the above email is truly the policy in Miami.
I don't think you're fully understanding how it works; this has nothing to do with policy. The 'policy' at Miami for students working on research is no different than the policy anywhere else. In every med school in the country, the vast, vast majority of med students who do research do so on a voluntary basis.

No med school's administration is going to finance your buffing of your CV. That said, you can land funded research opportunities as easily at UM as you can anywhere else--in fact, it's easier at UM than it is at most places.

I wonder if the different experiences you two have are due to the fact that you are on different campuses. It seems like there would be many more research opportunities at the main campus.
That's 100% correct.
 
The 'policy' at Miami for students working on research is no different than the policy anywhere else. In every med school in the country, the vast, vast majority of med students who do research do so on a voluntary basis.

I am talking about over the summer. All 11 schools I iterviewed at had summer stipends for doing research, except for Miami. It appears from the email I posted that Miami has the same volunteer policy over the summer.
 
I am talking about over the summer. All 11 schools I iterviewed at had summer stipends for doing research, except for Miami. It appears from the email I posted that Miami has the same volunteer policy over the summer.
I think what you are not getting is that they cannot "GUARANTEE" a summer stipend and so it is listed as volunteer. However, there are tons of grants for you to apply for and most lab directors/supervisors will probably tell you which ones to apply for or already have experience which such things. I think that UMiami has tons of opportunities for their students and that you will definitely get a summer stipend if you apply for them.
 
I think what you are not getting is that they cannot "GUARANTEE" a summer stipend and so it is listed as volunteer. However, there are tons of grants for you to apply for and most lab directors/supervisors will probably tell you which ones to apply for or already have experience which such things. I think that UMiami has tons of opportunities for their students and that you will definitely get a summer stipend if you apply for them.

I understand that they don't guarantee it, but why do all the other schools guarantee it. I really think that Miami would be an excellent place to get an education, but how in the world could you possibly do research over the summer if you weren't getting paid. We will be broke enough as it is, and they don't budget you for 12 months during your first year.
 
I understand that they don't guarantee it, but why do all the other schools guarantee it. I really think that Miami would be an excellent place to get an education, but how in the world could you possibly do research over the summer if you weren't getting paid. We will be broke enough as it is, and they don't budget you for 12 months during your first year.
Look at it this way:

1) I think it's not guaranteed, but basically guaranteed...
2) If you are worried about it, ask Dr. Hinkley to get you in touch with some 2nd and 3rd years, or start a thread calling all 2nd and 3rd years and ask them. They can tell you whether or not it's going to happen.
3) Maybe you'll just have to take a risk...that somehow I have a feeling won't end up being a risk afterall.
 
As usual, Zeke is totally on the ball. It is not guaranteed at Miami but if you look for it you will find it. Miami seems to be pushing really hard to move up the prestige ladder, so I'm sure finding funding will not be an issue.
 
As usual, Zeke is totally on the ball. It is not guaranteed at Miami but if you look for it you will find it. Miami seems to be pushing really hard to move up the prestige ladder, so I'm sure finding funding will not be an issue.
Thanks for the support. 😉

Come on GeauxMD, you know you wanna...
 
I am interested in meeting people who were accepted to UM-Miami Campus. Are you guys definitely going? Are you excited or nervous about medical school? Traditional or non-traditional? Are you all local Floridians? I know I should probably be enjoying this time of not having to study, but I keep thinking about what sort of things I can look forward to in medical school. I am especially excited about doing some medical trips...I think they used to go to Haiti, but I am not sure if they still do. I also have a friend who went to India for a surgery observership.
 
Why work when I can respond to SDN? Id say as of now im about 99% sure Ill be attending UM-Miami. Im a non-trad (been doing research and getting my M.S. in Immunology) from UF and I am looking forward to a change of scenery. Im also a reapp (turned down my only acceptance last yr to stay on UF's waitlist... obvious how that turned out)

Im really excited to go to UM for several reasons. 1. I did an internship there one summer and shadowed the chief of OB and was really impressed with the complex there and amt of cases. 2. Its miami...enough said. 3. Ive been on the Red Cross Medical Disaster Team as an EMT for several yrs (went to MS right after Katrina) and I like the new emphasis on global medicine that UM has and l am looking forward to contributing to that (mission trip type things etc). During my interview I met several CA applicants who applied to UM just bc of their desire for global medicine.
 
Waitlisted at main campus as many of you know, and hoping to get in there over Boca.

I guess I'm somewhere between a non-trad and a trad. I'm 23 and I have a master's from Barry in Biomedical Sciences and a BS from McGill University. I want to go to main campus for a lot of the same reasons listed by facewait 🙂

In particular, I love the independence, the opportunities and the emphasis on Global Healthcare and Health Disparities. I currently live in North Miami Beach and would love to stay in the area and go to UM - main campus 🙂.
 
I am talking about over the summer. All 11 schools I iterviewed at had summer stipends for doing research, except for Miami. It appears from the email I posted that Miami has the same volunteer policy over the summer.
What are those 11 schools?

I'd bet any sum of money that you misunderstood them and that none of them have guaranteed summer research stipends. That's not how it works.

Anywhere you go, you have to apply for these things.

I understand that they don't guarantee it, but why do all the other schools guarantee it.
They don't.
 
I am especially excited about doing some medical trips...I think they used to go to Haiti, but I am not sure if they still do. I also have a friend who went to India for a surgery observership.
Yeah, we're still doing Haiti trips. There are also trips to Nicaragua, India, the Dominican Republic, Jamaica, and Tanzania.

It's ridiculous how many students go on these trips.
 
What are those 11 schools?

I'd bet any sum of money that you misunderstood them and that none of them have guaranteed summer research stipends. That's not how it works.

Anywhere you go, you have to apply for these things.


They don't.

PM me if you really want to know what schools I interviewed at. I might have worded it incorrectly. What I meant, was that they each had funding for summer stipends (by guaranteed I meant that they had a bunch of stipends available, so it was guaranteed that there was funding for summer research even though you were had to compete with classmates.) The email I got back from the Miami Research office stated that they could not help you with paid research. That is what I was complaining about. All the other schools had set programs where you applied to get the summer stipends, even if you were not guaranteed to get it. At Miami, it sounds like the school doesn't give you any support to get funding, but maybe I am just misunderstanding the email.
 
Also, what is the dealio with second look weekend. I interviewed the admissions office about it a couple days ago and didn't get a reply.
 
Also, what is the dealio with second look weekend. I interviewed the admissions office about it a couple days ago and didn't get a reply.
LOL you are in psycho-premed mode... 😉

You emailed the office?
 
PM me if you really want to know what schools I interviewed at. I might have worded it incorrectly. What I meant, was that they each had funding for summer stipends (by guaranteed I meant that they had a bunch of stipends available, so it was guaranteed that there was funding for summer research even though you were had to compete with classmates.) The email I got back from the Miami Research office stated that they could not help you with paid research. That is what I was complaining about. All the other schools had set programs where you applied to get the summer stipends, even if you were not guaranteed to get it. At Miami, it sounds like the school doesn't give you any support to get funding, but maybe I am just misunderstanding the email.

I still don't see what the big deal is. Are you going to make your decision of where to go to medical school based upon the funding of the six weeks during first and second year---when you aren't in class and aren't seeing patients?
 
I still don't see what the big deal is. Are you going to make your decision of where to go to medical school based upon the funding of the six weeks during first and second year---when you aren't in class and aren't seeing patients?

No, I am not basing my decision on that fact alone, but it is a consideration. I might have been brainwashed by the SDN crowd who says that research is necessary for every residency. In fact, I think some of the other experiences at Miami like: diverse population, medical trips, and lots of responsibility as a med student, will make me competitive as well.
 
I am interested in meeting people who were accepted to UM-Miami Campus. Are you guys definitely going? Are you excited or nervous about medical school? Traditional or non-traditional? Are you all local Floridians? I know I should probably be enjoying this time of not having to study, but I keep thinking about what sort of things I can look forward to in medical school. I am especially excited about doing some medical trips...I think they used to go to Haiti, but I am not sure if they still do. I also have a friend who went to India for a surgery observership.

Hey there...

well I guess I'm prob the baby in this thread as I am 21 now but plan on entering 1st yr at 21. I'm in the 7 yr MSP program at UM and have always lived in Miami. Def love it here, and I am excited about med school and meeting all of you!
 
PM me if you really want to know what schools I interviewed at. I might have worded it incorrectly. What I meant, was that they each had funding for summer stipends (by guaranteed I meant that they had a bunch of stipends available, so it was guaranteed that there was funding for summer research even though you were had to compete with classmates.)
Again, I don't think you quite understood what they were telling you. For most of those schools, those aren't school-funded 'stipends' for student initiatives you're competing for. They're outside fellowships. Post a couple of those 11 schools if you'd like me to demonstrate why your info is incorrect. The situation is identical to UM's.

The email I got back from the Miami Research office stated that they could not help you with paid research. That is what I was complaining about. All the other schools had set programs where you applied to get the summer stipends, even if you were not guaranteed to get it. At Miami, it sounds like the school doesn't give you any support to get funding, but maybe I am just misunderstanding the email.
I think you've jumped to way too many conclusions from one line in Biederman's email. The Office of Professional Development & Career Guidance definitely gives you support in finding what you're looking for. Yes, most students who do research do so in a volunteer capacity (at UM and at every one of those 11 schools); everywhere in the country, med students primarily do voluntary research so they can 'join in' on projects at their discretion with certain faculty and can buff their CV within the specialty of their choice.

Ultimately, you get 'funding' for working on projects from your boss and from outside sources (e.g., grants you apply for). It requires initiative, but it's relatively easy if you can make a significant time commitment and you're not picky.

No, I am not basing my decision on that fact alone, but it is a consideration. I might have been brainwashed by the SDN crowd who says that research is necessary for every residency. In fact, I think some of the other experiences at Miami like: diverse population, medical trips, and lots of responsibility as a med student, will make me competitive as well.
This is the silliest thing I've ever read.
 
Again, I don't think you quite understood what they were telling you. For most of those schools, those aren't school-funded 'stipends' for student initiatives you're competing for. They're outside fellowships. Post a couple of those 11 schools if you'd like me to demonstrate why your info is incorrect. The situation is identical to UM's.
I never said anything about the school funding the stipends. Why would I care where it comes from. I'm sure most of the money comes from NIH or outside funding agencies.
From the brochure at my WashU interview:
Summer Research Opportunities involve participation in two to three
months of full-time research in the following programs: Summer Research,
Otolaryngology, Mallinckrodt Institute of Radiology and the Alvin J.
Siteman Cancer Center.

Eligibility: Applicants must be full-time medical students at Washington
University School of Medicine and in good academic standing without
encumbrances.
Funding: Fellowships provide a stipend. Participants must be employed
on the first working day of the month to be on the payroll for that month.
Number of Participants: 60-70 students per year.
Length of Program: Students will work full time on the research project
for two months during the period from late May until classes start in August.
Students interested in the program may request an application or obtain
additional information by contacting:
Koong-Nah Chung, PhD
Assistant Dean for Admissions and Student Affairs

or from the Pitt website:

The UPSOM Summer Research Program is the major source of student stipend support for summer scholarly activity. Co-funded by the Dean and the Children’s Hospital Research fund (for projects in Pediatrics), the SRP is directed by Dr. Allen Humphrey and coordinated through the Office of Student Affairs by Dr. Joan Harvey and Ms. Suzann Beardsley.

To participate in this program, students must first identify a preceptor and a research project and then develop a project proposal. The links below canhelp you find a preceptor who matches your interests, and instructs you on how to write and submit a project proposal. All applications received by the deadline of February 28, 2007 will be reviewed by a central committee of faculty. Funding offers based on the merit of the proposal will be made by the end of March. A stipend of $3000 is provided for the eight-week program.
I think you've jumped to way too many conclusions from one line in Biederman's email. The Office of Professional Development & Career Guidance definitely gives you support in finding what you're looking for. Yes, most students who do research do so in a volunteer capacity (at UM and at every one of those 11 schools); everywhere in the country, med students primarily do voluntary research so they can 'join in' on projects at their discretion with certain faculty and can buff their CV within the specialty of their choice.
Yes this line does bother me: in rare cases the research is funded
Look at the WashU program. They fund 60-70 of their own students each year. Considering that summer research can only be done during first and maybe second years, that is only around 300 total people in the applicant pool. I'm not sure how many would be applying for this, but even if it was everyone I would hardly call 60/300 rare.

My concern is that the summer break at Miami is too short to apply to the outside programs because most I see require an 8 week minimum time committment. Please show me why my info is incorrect and there is a similar program at Miami.
 
haven't been on this thread in a momments notice, however I still notice the same faces.

Zeke~ get into the main campus!!

I'm so excited, my girlfriend is going to interview at miami on feb 20 something. Maybe I will end up there 🙂

otherwise, best of luck with the new semester/quarter all
 
I never said anything about the school funding the stipends. Why would I care where it comes from. I'm sure most of the money comes from NIH or outside funding agencies.

Most of the elite schools have programs like these. I am not really sure why Badenov doesn't think they do, but it doesn't really matter. You cannot compare the summer stipend programs at WashU to Miami, they aren't in the same league. However, that doesn't mean that there aren't plenty of reasons why going to Miami is an excellent choice (clinical, weather, etc.)

While Miami does not appear to have these summer stipend programs, you can just do the same thing that goes on at all of the schools where you try to join up with labs and see if you can get funding from the PI of the individual labs, or you can apply to outside funding agencies like the AFAR program.
 
haven't been on this thread in a momments notice, however I still notice the same faces.

Zeke~ get into the main campus!!

I'm so excited, my girlfriend is going to interview at miami on feb 20 something. Maybe I will end up there 🙂

otherwise, best of luck with the new semester/quarter all
Thanks Dasacohen!! 🙂 I'm going to try to do just that!
 
I never said anything about the school funding the stipends. Why would I care where it comes from. I'm sure most of the money comes from NIH or outside funding agencies.
From the brochure at my WashU interview:
Summer Research Opportunities involve participation in two to three
months of full-time research in the following programs: Summer Research,
Otolaryngology, Mallinckrodt Institute of Radiology and the Alvin J.
Siteman Cancer Center.

Eligibility: Applicants must be full-time medical students at Washington
University School of Medicine and in good academic standing without
encumbrances.
Funding: Fellowships provide a stipend. Participants must be employed
on the first working day of the month to be on the payroll for that month.
Number of Participants: 60-70 students per year.
Length of Program: Students will work full time on the research project
for two months during the period from late May until classes start in August.
Students interested in the program may request an application or obtain
additional information by contacting:
Koong-Nah Chung, PhD
Assistant Dean for Admissions and Student Affairs

or from the Pitt website:

The UPSOM Summer Research Program is the major source of student stipend support for summer scholarly activity. Co-funded by the Dean and the Children’s Hospital Research fund (for projects in Pediatrics), the SRP is directed by Dr. Allen Humphrey and coordinated through the Office of Student Affairs by Dr. Joan Harvey and Ms. Suzann Beardsley.

To participate in this program, students must first identify a preceptor and a research project and then develop a project proposal. The links below canhelp you find a preceptor who matches your interests, and instructs you on how to write and submit a project proposal. All applications received by the deadline of February 28, 2007 will be reviewed by a central committee of faculty. Funding offers based on the merit of the proposal will be made by the end of March. A stipend of $3000 is provided for the eight-week program.

Yes this line does bother me: in rare cases the research is funded
Look at the WashU program. They fund 60-70 of their own students each year. Considering that summer research can only be done during first and maybe second years, that is only around 300 total people in the applicant pool. I'm not sure how many would be applying for this, but even if it was everyone I would hardly call 60/300 rare.

My concern is that the summer break at Miami is too short to apply to the outside programs because most I see require an 8 week minimum time committment. Please show me why my info is incorrect and there is a similar program at Miami.
It sounds to me like you are not just concerned about UMiami's research opportunities and perhaps it's more than just that. If you feel more comfortable somewhere else, and think that ultimately they offer you more as a student, then go elsewhere.

At the same time, I think Miami gives the most bang for your buck considering most out of staters get the in-state tuition and it's a private school. Granted their facilities aren't the nicest for a private school, but I think you'll find research opportunities and funding opportunities most adequate. Unfortunately, they just don't have the little clause you are looking for to promise the $$$.
 
Most of the elite schools have programs like these. I am not really sure why Badenov doesn't think they do, but it doesn't really matter. You cannot compare the summer stipend programs at WashU to Miami, they aren't in the same league. However, that doesn't mean that there aren't plenty of reasons why going to Miami is an excellent choice (clinical, weather, etc.)

While Miami does not appear to have these summer stipend programs, you can just do the same thing that goes on at all of the schools where you try to join up with labs and see if you can get funding from the PI of the individual labs, or you can apply to outside funding agencies like the AFAR program.
Yeah I understand that now. Really it is not that big of a deal, it looks like you might just need a little more initiative to get the funding at Miami.

It sounds to me like you are not just concerned about UMiami's research opportunities and perhaps it's more than just that.
Yeah, I was worried that the post would come off that way. I was just trying to respond to Boris' statement. Actually, I think Miami's research opportunities are probably top notch especially in neuro and rehab. This school is definitely really high on my list, I was just a little concerned about finding funding for the summer. But like I said before, its not a huge deal.
 
Hey there...

well I guess I'm prob the baby in this thread as I am 21 now but plan on entering 1st yr at 21. I'm in the 7 yr MSP program at UM and have always lived in Miami. Def love it here, and I am excited about med school and meeting all of you!


Hey Brian. Where do you recommend students live at UM? It seems like living by the rail system would be a huge bonus because the students I talked with said getting back and forth to class by car is a nightmare.
 
Hey Brian. Where do you recommend students live at UM? It seems like living by the rail system would be a huge bonus because the students I talked with said getting back and forth to class by car is a nightmare.

I think South Beach/Miami Beach or Brickell is a good option, with 20-25 minutes tops travel time during traffic. I don't think it should be too bad at the time that you would be going to class, and if you are a skipper, than you can always go in later when there is no traffic 🙂. I think the metro rail might be a pain in the butt, because at night it's not the nicest place to be.

Also, having a car in South Florida is a must. I asked my tour guide if ppl had cars, and he was like, yeah most of them do even if they aren't always using them (ie: live in dominion or take metro rail) they still have them. I also live in the vicinity 🙂
 
Yeah I understand that now. Really it is not that big of a deal, it looks like you might just need a little more initiative to get the funding at Miami.


Yeah, I was worried that the post would come off that way. I was just trying to respond to Boris' statement. Actually, I think Miami's research opportunities are probably top notch especially in neuro and rehab. This school is definitely really high on my list, I was just a little concerned about finding funding for the summer. But like I said before, its not a huge deal.
I don't think it came off that way tooo much 🙂. I think for the money Miami is your best bet. Some of the other schools may offer more, but they are expensive too. The one thing that I would say, is if you get into a school that is the same price, but cost of living is significantly less, and it's highly ranked, then go there 🙂. Cost of living in Miami is no fun. I've had to call my parents for favours on one too many occasions this year... *sigh*
 
I think South Beach/Miami Beach or Brickell is a good option, with 20-25 minutes tops travel time during traffic. I don't think it should be too bad at the time that you would be going to class, and if you are a skipper, than you can always go in later when there is no traffic 🙂. I think the metro rail might be a pain in the butt, because at night it's not the nicest place to be.

Also, having a car in South Florida is a must. I asked my tour guide if ppl had cars, and he was like, yeah most of them do even if they aren't always using them (ie: live in dominion or take metro rail) they still have them. I also live in the vicinity 🙂

👍 What is the price range like in South Beach/Miami Beach. They only give us $680/month for rent, so it seems like you might need to go 2 to a bedroom to make that work:laugh:
I have seen some relatively cheap places around the undergrad campus, but I don't know what that area is like.
When you say metro rail is not the nicest place to be, do you mean that it would be uncomfortable for a man, or just a woman who is alone?
 
Hey Brian. Where do you recommend students live at UM? It seems like living by the rail system would be a huge bonus because the students I talked with said getting back and forth to class by car is a nightmare.


pretty much agree with Dr. Zeke. South Beach/Brickell is great if you can afford it...

If you want to spend less or don't care about living in a subpar area, Dominion Towers might be a good option as it is REALLY close to campus

I personally plan on taking the metro from Coral Gables as driving in Miami is HORRIFIC...esp early in the morning...can't imagine going all the way to the med campus...hope this helps...
 
👍 What is the price range like in South Beach/Miami Beach. They only give us $680/month for rent, so it seems like you might need to go 2 to a bedroom to make that work:laugh:
I have seen some relatively cheap places around the undergrad campus, but I don't know what that area is like.
When you say metro rail is not the nicest place to be, do you mean that it would be uncomfortable for a man, or just a woman who is alone?

The area around the undergrad campus is where I live, Coral Gables. It's really nice but REALLY expensive...
 
The area around the undergrad campus is where I live, Coral Gables. It's really nice but REALLY expensive...

Great info. How expensive are we talking here?
 
^

depends on what you are looking for. I'm not too familiar w/ the cost of rent down here. If you are looking to buy a house, it could easily cost you a million or more...
 
If you are looking to buy a house, it could easily cost you a million or more...

Hmm . . . I'll have to email the financial aid office and see if they can bump up the student budget a little bit for my house purchase:laugh:
 
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