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LetItSnow said:
Ok.



I did think that all ex-wolves were good, but a few things since then have made me think we were all re-rolled and that the game is essentially reset (minus some original villagers). I think we've arrived at the same point.



Right. I wouldn't normally want to make the mayor use the veto day one.

Either way (whether people agree with me about removing the lynch at this point, which is pretty much a judgment call, not really a "right" or "wrong" thing), I still think we *HAVE* to investigate you tonight.
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I think the lynch is best removed from the game...
 
StartingoverVet said:
I guess if there is a reassortment, the Group2 wolves can gives us a little more info.

Something to look forward to.
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I see potential for serious-ass confusion going forth about wolf groups. Can we settle on terminology as above? Group1 wolves for the original set. Group2 wolves for the current set. Group3 wolves ... mod forbid....
 
LetItSnow said:
I did think that all ex-wolves were good, but a few things since then have made me think we were all re-rolled and that the game is essentially reset (minus some original villagers). I think we've arrived at the same point.
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I agree with this... not all ex-wolves are automatically cleared in my mind, but I am not going to jump to lynch any of them either, as I had stated earlier. I do think everything was re-rolled and everyone was given a new role.

I think we are back at a Day 1 point but with less villagers now and the same number of wolves, removing the veto is probably a smart idea at this stage given the circumstances.
 
I guess I will jump on the bandwagon though I'm not sure about it.

lynch sov
 
leaving in a few minutes... just curious,

SOV lynch votes: -10 Sov, brow, FFM. FS, abbers, alors, TRH, tucker, DVMD, LIS

LIS -1 Dwin
Swings -1 SnS

Missing 4 votes.

3 waffles... alll by SOV.
 
shortnsweet said:
Do The Creep:

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:laugh: i love this!




just for the sake of having a vote right now lynch SOV
still need to read through the thread but I didn't receive a PM about a role change so I'm guessing I'm still the same
 
leaving in a few minutes... just curious,

SOV lynch votes: -11 Sov, brow, FFM. FS, abbers, alors, TRH, tucker, DVMD, LIS, swings

LIS -1 Dwin
Swings -1 SnS

Missing 3 votes.

3 waffles... alll by SOV.
 
Official Lynch Tally

SOV -11 (Sov, KB, FFM, FS, abbers, alors, TRH, tucker, DVMD, LIS, swings)
LIS -1 (Dwin)
Swings -1 (SnS)

Deadline 7 PM EST (12 AM IT)......


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StartingoverVet said:
I don't really get it. I feel like I am playing naked.... in a different universe...
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StartingoverVet said:
See, this game is fecking with my mind. Is this how y'all feel in one of my games?
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😆
 
lynch SOV

Could the previous wolves tell us something about their role mechanics? (Like how often they get a conversion, etc.) Or is that not allowed?
 
Sorry, but are we assuming we get four new wolves each reshuffle? Because if so why are we playing. We can't win against that. Surely they only replace living wolves. So 2 original living + convert.

Also, why are we lynching SOV? He said he's vetoing. This is a waste. Just freaking reinvestigate him.

#### unlynch LIS ####
#### lynch kbrow ####

Essentially a random that I don't view as a huge loss if a villager.


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And if I incorrect about something in my post cut me some slack. That was a lot of **** to try and catch up on with my phone. -_-


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Dwindlin said:
Sorry, but are we assuming we get four new wolves each reshuffle? Because if so why are we playing. We can't win against that. Surely they only replace living wolves. So 2 original living + convert.
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There were 4 wolves originally. We killed one, They converted 1.
So 3+1=4.

We are assuming those 4 wolf roles were redistributed, but we really don't know. It is possible they only get 3 after the reshuffle. It is also possible that they lost the wolf seer role because LIS was killed, or it was brought back.

All a big mystery.
 
Dwindlin said:
Sorry, but are we assuming we get four new wolves each reshuffle? Because if so why are we playing. We can't win against that. Surely they only replace living wolves. So 2 original living + convert.

Also, why are we lynching SOV? He said he's vetoing. This is a waste. Just freaking reinvestigate him.

#### unlynch LIS ####
#### lynch kbrow ####

Essentially a random that I don't view as a huge loss if a villager.


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Um, at this point every villager lost is a "huge loss" so that is crap. And we have stated over and over again that there are 4 wolves remaining right now. 4 originals, LIS died, then the wolves had a successful conversion brings it back to 4. And no, using the veto is not a waste, it can be a good strategy if we have no idea who to lynch, which we do not and will allow us to not lynch a villager and give us a night of investigation. No, we won't be attempting to catch a wolf, but much better than losing a villager when the odds are heavily stacked against us right now.

This post of yours makes me really want to unlynch SOV and lynch you though.
 
StartingoverVet said:
There were 4 wolves originally. We killed one, They converted 1.
So 3+1=4.

We are assuming those 4 wolf roles were redistributed, but we really don't know. It is possible they only get 3 after the reshuffle. It is also possible that they lost the wolf seer role because LIS was killed, or it was brought back.

All a big mystery.
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No, the wolf seer role was given to FFM. FFM was the wolf seer as of night 4 when the role shuffling occurred, I would think that role is out there somewhere.
 
DVMDream said:
Um, at this point every villager lost is a "huge loss" so that is crap. And we have stated over and over again that there are 4 wolves remaining right now. 4 originals, LIS died, then the wolves had a successful conversion brings it back to 4. And no, using the veto is not a waste, it can be a good strategy if we have no idea who to lynch, which we do not and will allow us to not lynch a villager and give us a night of investigation. No, we won't be attempting to catch a wolf, but much better than losing a villager when the odds are heavily stacked against us right now.

This post of yours makes me really want to unlynch SOV and lynch you though.
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Lynch away buddy. Doesn't change my opinion. I don't know kbrow. I know you, LIS, SOV, etc, etc. I know you all contribute in positive ways as villagers. That is more valuable in my mind. I would RATHER you lynch me than someone like SOV.


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I should specify. Lynch away, but you won't find a wolf. I'm a fecking terrible wolf. SOV can attest. The one game I was a wolf I was found out early, and the only reason I lasted so long was because the villagers couldn't kill me.


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Dwindlin said:
Lynch away buddy. Doesn't change my opinion. I don't know kbrow. I know you, LIS, SOV, etc, etc. I know you all contribute in positive ways as villagers. That is more valuable in my mind. I would RATHER you lynch me than someone like SOV.


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The game isn't "who do you know better". The game is wolves vs. villagers. I don't care if the villager is a noob or not, we need their numbers right now. Yes, I typically prefer the veterans stay in longer as we know each other and can read each other more easily, but a villager is a villager... noob or veteran. So yes I want the numbers. And randomly lynching people at this point is not a good idea. And why would you have me lynch you instead of SOV, really? What proof do you have that SOV is a villager and is so much better than you and worth keeping in the game? That is just a silly comment to make, unless you are the wolf that can avoid lynch. Then it makes sense.
 
Hell. Look at this game. Did anyone really think I had a "source?" Wolves sure as **** weren't fooled since they tried to off me N2. Luckily the protector wasn't buying it either and protected me.


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DVMDream said:
The game isn't "who do you know better". The game is wolves vs. villagers. I don't care if the villager is a noob or not, we need their numbers right now. Yes, I typically prefer the veterans stay in longer as we know each other and can read each other more easily, but a villager is a villager... noob or veteran. So yes I want the numbers. And randomly lynching people at this point is not a good idea. And why would you have me lynch you instead of SOV, really? What proof do you have that SOV is a villager and is so much better than you and worth keeping in the game? That is just a silly comment to make, unless you are the wolf that can avoid lynch. Then it makes sense.
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I'm getting my haircut, but I'll happily respond to this when I get home. Not like it matters because I am clearly out numbered for this lynch.


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Dwindlin said:
Hell. Look at this game. Did anyone really think I had a "source?" Wolves sure as **** weren't fooled since they tried to off me N2. Luckily the protector wasn't buying it either and protected me.


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Yup, I knew you were the source off the bat. I mean, coming out with info right away on Day 2 sure tells us something. Either someone in your group was brave with info or you had some way to get info... I went with the latter. Figured you might be protected, but it was worth a shot. I also figured out the protector quite easily with your post of "allie is a TERRIBLE lynch choice" so yeah, you have to be careful..
 
DVMDream said:
No, the wolf seer role was given to FFM. FFM was the wolf seer as of night 4 when the role shuffling occurred, I would think that role is out there somewhere.
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I am not sure this is true. Ffm was a seer, he became a wolf...I question whether the role lis had really passed on.


Why do you think LIS' role was inherited?
 
StartingoverVet said:
I am not sure this is true. Ffm was a seer, he became a wolf...I question whether the role lis had really passed on.


Why do you think LIS' role was inherited?
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Because the PM from the mods when we converted him said... welcome FFM you are now the wolf seer!

I think that is rather straightforward. I am not thinking it, I am telling you all that it was carried on. The wolf seer role WAS carried on.
 
StartingoverVet said:
I am not sure this is true. Ffm was a seer, he became a wolf...I question whether the role lis had really passed on.


Why do you think LIS' role was inherited?
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Could go either way. The night results PM referred to me as Wolf Seer. Guessing if I was seered, I would come back with Wolf Seer instead of Seer.

Not sure which role, if any, are eliminated. I hope it was the Wolf Seer, unless I end up being a wolf again :meanie:
 
DVMDream said:
Because the PM from the mods when we converted him said... welcome FFM you are now the wolf seer!

I think that is rather straightforward. I am not thinking it, I am telling you all that it was carried on. The wolf seer role WAS carried on.
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Hmmm. Not so straightforward ....I could see that just indicating ffm was now a seer for wolves...you might be right...but hard to say. Hope you are wrong.
 
StartingoverVet said:
Hmmm. Not so straightforward ....I could see that just indicating ffm was now a seer for wolves...you might be right...but hard to say. Hope you are wrong.
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That is really splicing hairs there if you ask me. He was told he is now "the wolf seer" same exact wording as LIS was at the beginning of the game. I mean yes, the technical meaning of "wolf seer" is a seer for the wolves, but it was rather straightforward in the PM from the mods that he was now "THE wolf seer", and I do have this odd feeling that no matter who we had converted would have been given that ability, though I can not say that is for certain. I mean, I did not even know that FFM had been a seer prior until I PMed him after conversion and asked if he had a role.
 
dyachei said:
I thought it was whisky not whiskey
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:uhno:

DVMDream said:
Devyn does not like whisky, only whiskey.
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👍

Yes thank you....

whisky is essentially scotch.... which I do not like... Scotland's version... and usually full of peat....

whiskey is much tastier.... originating in Ireland.... and yummier...... 😍
 
devyn said:
:uhno:



👍

Yes thank you....

whisky is essentially scotch.... which I do not like... Scotland's version... and usually full of peat....

whiskey is much tastier.... originating in Ireland.... and yummier...... 😍
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DVMDream said:
Um, at this point every villager lost is a "huge loss" so that is crap. And we have stated over and over again that there are 4 wolves remaining right now. 4 originals, LIS died, then the wolves had a successful conversion brings it back to 4. And no, using the veto is not a waste, it can be a good strategy if we have no idea who to lynch, which we do not and will allow us to not lynch a villager and give us a night of investigation. No, we won't be attempting to catch a wolf, but much better than losing a villager when the odds are heavily stacked against us right now.

This post of yours makes me really want to unlynch SOV and lynch you though.
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Thanks for this. Sheesh, I fall asleep for an hour come back with a lynch-mob of one because I'm a noob.

Nothing about me changed in the night's change. I'm still a powerless vanilla villager and though that may not be an important 'role' at least it's someone on the villager side. A warm body is a warm body.
 
kbrow47 said:
Thanks for this. Sheesh, I fall asleep for an hour come back with a lynch-mob of one because I'm a noob.

Nothing about me changed in the night's change. I'm still a powerless vanilla villager and though that may not be an important 'role' at least it's someone on the villager side. A warm body is a warm body.
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Easy there. One person doesn't exactly qualify as a lynch mob.

And though the discussion has moved on, just to respond to DVM. You actually kind of "said it yourself" in your last post addressing me. I was made, quickly. I'm not good with subtlety (on here or in life), same goes for slinging bull. I just do not have a talent for it. Most of those I listed off are extremely talented at that stuff. Most of you also catch/make connections that I wouldn't see if it were pointed out to me. Again, not my forte. Honestly I don't consider myself all that good at these games, but they're fun, so I keep playing. That is why I wouldn't for a second think to off myself if I thought it would keep someone who I think is way more valuable to the villagers than myself alive (if I'm a villager of course, if I were a wolf to hell with you all).
 
Ok, I just got in and I'm trying to get caught up. Sorry I missed the lynch, Also, I am still a villager, per my PM.
 
3Dogs3Cats said:
Ok, I just got in and I'm trying to get caught up. Sorry I missed the lynch, Also, I am still a villager, per my PM.
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This makes me suspicious. Myself and one other person on the thread who did not switch roles from villagers did not receive a new PM. So why did you? You either have a role or are now a wolf.
 
Dwindlin said:
Sorry, but are we assuming we get four new wolves each reshuffle? Because if so why are we playing. We can't win against that. Surely they only replace living wolves. So 2 original living + convert.
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In case I missed the correction, it's 3 original living + convert. I think the most reasonable guess right now is the wolves have 4.

My guess is that we'll see another reshuffle in the game. Furthermore, I think that the wolves will get reconstituted with whatever number they happen to have at the time of the lynch, and with whatever roles they have active. I think our job as villagers is to whittle them down as we go, with the 'cleared' and 'known' roles getting reset from time to time.

FFM apparently got my role when he was converted into Wolves1. So I think it's most reasonable to guess that right now Wolves2 consists of four wolves with all the same roles that we had in Wolves1.

dyachei said:
Day closed. SOV vetoes the lynch

I'm not reposting the same roster.

NIGHT DEADLINE 8 AM Eastern

but I can be convinced to close things early.
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At the risk of someone saying "AHA! LIS IS A WOLF!" (I'm not) I just have to say ... I saw this post by Dyachei and my first thought was "Ok, what should we (the wolves) do tonight?" It's really, really weird to go from being a wolf to being a vanilla villager. In spite of being dead a day in between, it's just .... weird to change the frame of reference. It's different than any other role-reassignment I've ever gone through where at least you're still playing for the same team.

Dyachei, I've got a very, very special role coming to you soon. I just have to spend some time devising it. :meanie:
 
NStarz said:
This makes me suspicious. Myself and one other person on the thread who did not switch roles from villagers did not receive a new PM. So why did you? You either have a role or are now a wolf.
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Yeah, that was a weird post. Pending an explanation that makes sense, here's my contingent vote to lynch 3D3C tomorrow.
 
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