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LetItSnow said:
In case I missed the correction, it's 3 original living + convert. I think the most reasonable guess right now is the wolves have 4.

My guess is that we'll see another reshuffle in the game. Furthermore, I think that the wolves will get reconstituted with whatever number they happen to have at the time of the lynch, and with whatever roles they have active. I think our job as villagers is to whittle them down as we go, with the 'cleared' and 'known' roles getting reset from time to time.

FFM apparently got my role when he was converted into Wolves1. So I think it's most reasonable to guess that right now Wolves2 consists of four wolves with all the same roles that we had in Wolves1.
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This was my thought, that once a wolf dies their number won't get reshuffled. But reading through the thread it sounded as if we thought the original number of wolves was back (something about there being no red in the grave yard or something). Admittedly I was trying to catch up sitting at SportsClip on my phone, so I'm sure I misread.
 
Originally I was a vanilla villager. With the shuffle, I gained a role which is why I received a PM but my affiliation remained the same. I'm still a villager.
 
Dwindlin said:
This was my thought, that once a wolf dies their number won't get reshuffled. But reading through the thread it sounded as if we thought the original number of wolves was back (something about there being no red in the grave yard or something). Admittedly I was trying to catch up sitting at SportsClip on my phone, so I'm sure I misread.
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We are still saying 4 because even though LIS died, we converted FFM. So when the shuffle happened, there were 4 wolves, had LIS not died, it would have been 5. There was only Night 3 that there were 3 wolves, on that night FFM was converted... Day 4 was immediately back to 4 wolves, most of the game it has been 4 wolves.
 
Dwindlin said:
This was my thought, that once a wolf dies their number won't get reshuffled. But reading through the thread it sounded as if we thought the original number of wolves was back (something about there being no red in the grave yard or something). Admittedly I was trying to catch up sitting at SportsClip on my phone, so I'm sure I misread.
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We do think the original number (4) is back. At least, DVMD and I do. But that's because there was a conversion. So the wolf numbers = 4 originals - 1 death + 1 conversion = 4.
 
LetItSnow said:
We do think the original number (4) is back. At least, DVMD and I do. But that's because there was a conversion. So the wolf numbers = 4 originals - 1 death + 1 conversion = 4.
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Do you feel like a broken record? I feel like a broken record... I just don't see how hard it is to understand 4 - 1 + 1 = 4... 😕
 
3Dogs3Cats said:
Originally I was a vanilla villager. With the shuffle, I gained a role which is why I received a PM but my affiliation remained the same. I'm still a villager.
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DVMDream said:
Do you feel like a broken record? I feel like a broken record... I just don't see how hard it is to understand 4 - 1 + 1 = 4... 😕
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Yeah, a bit. I mean, I think we've ALL arrived at the same place:

o Everyone is an unknown again.
o We most likely have 4 wolves.

.... and that's about all we know. Oh yeah, except that 3D3C just put a massive bullseye on his/her back for death or conversion. Assuming the wolves have just as much lack of data as we do, I think there's a pretty high probability 3D3C dies tonight, unless the villager protector protects him/her.

I think there was a LOT of posting, though, so people are still catching up.
 
LetItSnow said:
We do think the original number (4) is back. At least, DVMD and I do. But that's because there was a conversion. So the wolf numbers = 4 originals - 1 death + 1 conversion = 4.
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DVMDream said:
Do you feel like a broken record? I feel like a broken record... I just don't see how hard it is to understand 4 - 1 + 1 = 4... 😕
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You guys are broken records. I got it the first time. I understand where you got the four. My initial confusion was missing FFM had been converted. But thanks anyways.
 
LetItSnow said:
.... and that's about all we know. Oh yeah, except that 3D3C just put a massive bullseye on his/her back for death or conversion. Assuming the wolves have just as much lack of data as we do, I think there's a pretty high probability 3D3C dies tonight, unless the villager protector protects him/her.
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I mean there were honestly only two options since I received a PM and others did not: 1) I'm a new wolf. 2) I received a role.

You guys asked for clarification or I'd be lynched. It was really just a noob mistake initially to reveal I had received a PM at all, but I wasn't thinking and don't have any experience with this game. SO....now it's in the open and I realize I'm likely to die tonight.
 
LetItSnow said:
Yeah, a bit. I mean, I think we've ALL arrived at the same place:

o Everyone is an unknown again.
o We most likely have 4 wolves.

.... and that's about all we know. Oh yeah, except that 3D3C just put a massive bullseye on his/her back for death or conversion. Assuming the wolves have just as much lack of data as we do, I think there's a pretty high probability 3D3C dies tonight, unless the villager protector protects him/her.

I think there was a LOT of posting, though, so people are still catching up.
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Assuming there is one. Are we assuming roles that died are getting recycled on the villager side?
 
DVMDream said:
Yup, I knew you were the source off the bat. I mean, coming out with info right away on Day 2 sure tells us something. Either someone in your group was brave with info or you had some way to get info... I went with the latter. Figured you might be protected, but it was worth a shot. I also figured out the protector quite easily with your post of "allie is a TERRIBLE lynch choice" so yeah, you have to be careful..
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LetItSnow said:
Dunno. Did the villagers lose their protector before the The Event?

I don't have a working assumption on roles.
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Yup.
 
Dwindlin said:
Assuming there is one. Are we assuming roles that died are getting recycled on the villager side?
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Don't think we will know until next reshuffle. Especially since we don't know about all the villager roles yet.
 
NStarz said:
This makes me suspicious. Myself and one other person on the thread who did not switch roles from villagers did not receive a new PM. So why did you? You either have a role or are now a wolf.
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Yup, didn't receive a new PM either.
 
And missed that there was already another page. I'm behind. I just had a summer woodchuck to drink and some fecking delicious french fries with truffle oil and parmesan. You should all be jealous.
 
I'm not sure whether to believe that catdog made a silly newb mistake or if she really didn't know that villagers didn't receive another PM and is a wolf. Thoughts?
 
Stupid question...are there any items this game? I haven't seen any mentioned on the thread and haven't received any.
 
NStarz said:
I'm not sure whether to believe that catdog made a silly newb mistake or if she really didn't know that villagers didn't receive another PM and is a wolf. Thoughts?
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I can see it either way, so I think she's a good investigation target for the night after tonight. If she lives that long.

I've only got my contingent vote out there in case tomorrow gets away from me and I'm not around to vote.
 
LetItSnow said:
I can see it either way, so I think she's a good investigation target for the night after tonight. If she lives that long.

I've only got my contingent vote out there in case tomorrow gets away from me and I'm not around to vote.
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Investigate away, if I'm still around by then. I am still a villager.
 
3Dogs3Cats said:
Investigate away, if I'm still around by then. I am still a villager.
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The idea of investigating you the night after tonight is in case you get converted tonight... You telling us tonight that you will be a villager tomorrow doesn't make sense, unless this is a game when you can choose to die instead of be converted
 
DVMDream said:
Anyway, wolves can convert every third night, there is a specific wolf who does this. There is also a wolf seer. And the silencing role, belongs to a wolf as well as that was my wolf ability prior. I am curious to see if this role change thing will happen again on Night 8... maybe an every 4th night thing? Or just a one time occurrence... could this have been someone's ability? or just them mods having some fun?
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tuckervet said:
The idea of investigating you the night after tonight is in case you get converted tonight... You telling us tonight that you will be a villager tomorrow doesn't make sense, unless this is a game when you can choose to die instead of be converted
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Assuming this wolf role remained the same, just moved to a different player, I didn't take conversion into account. With tonight being N5 (if I counted correctly), in theory there shouldn't be any conversions tonight. So I will come up as a villager when investigated if I'm still alive then.

Except, if I'm converted N6 and I'm investigated N6, would I come up as a villager or a wolf? I'm not sure how this would work, but in any case, I am currently a villager.
 
3Dogs3Cats said:
Assuming this wolf role remained the same, just moved to a different player, I didn't take conversion into account. With tonight being N5 (if I counted correctly), in theory there shouldn't be any conversions tonight. So I will come up as a villager when investigated if I'm still alive then.

Except, if I'm converted N6 and I'm investigated N6, would I come up as a villager or a wolf? I'm not sure how this would work, but in any case, I am currently a villager.
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I am guessing the conversion would take place N7. I would think the clock resets during the reassignment night.
 
Another night, another murder. Whip cracks were heard throughout the night. But were they torturous? The villagers huddle in the pitiful masses the next morning expecting to see a lashed body but instead find wildcatj, a villager brutally mauled and stabbed.

Official Roster

One
1. allie - villager
2. TRH
3. Alors
4. swings
5. Dwin

Two
1.SnS
2.NStarz
3. nohika - villager
4. DVMD

Three (Men's club)
1.FFM
2.SOV
3. FS
4. The LIS
5. wildcatj - villager

Four
1. abber
2. kbrown47
3. Hedgie - villager
4. Jamr0ckin - Villager

Five
1. tuckervet
2. WS - Villager
3. Wld - villager
4. 3Dogs3Cats

15 players remain.

Lynch Deadline is 8 PM EST

READ ALL MOD PMs BEFORE ANY OTHER PMs[/QUOTE]
 
**************
Well I guess I was getting spoiled making it almost to the end in the last two games.
But still :lame:
And suck it wolfies! You blow a big one.
**************
 
dyachei said:
wildcatj, a villager brutally mauled and stabbed.

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So when I was the killer, and I killed someone they were stabbed. When the wolves killed someone, they were mauled.

It looks to me like wildcat could have been targeted by the wolves and the killer?

Hey killer, you don't have to kill every night.. as I found out....
 
StartingoverVet said:
So when I was the killer, and I killed someone they were stabbed. When the wolves killed someone, they were mauled.

It looks to me like wildcat could have been targeted by the wolves and the killer?

Hey killer, you don't have to kill every night.. as I found out....
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Well, one of those nights I stole the ability from you. 😛
 
that redhead said:
I'd like to wait for more information, but I'm feeling mighty suspicious of 3D3C right about now.
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50/50 I presume.
The question is, do we risk losing a role.

I prefer we wait to investigate than risk losing a villager role that may be permanently removed from the game (depending on the role of course... ).

We don't know if roles are lost or not, but I think given that we know there is still a villager seer, better to wait a night than go right for her.
 
Since we are back to random.....

I am choosing between swings and frozenshades because they are the most infrequent posters left.... I figure in a fracked up game we need the most info and posting as possible for an ultimate win.

lynch swings

mainly because I feel residual guilt from offing FS last game.

If anyone has a better lead I am sure I will manage to check back later.

As I mentioned above, I think lynching 3d3c today is a mistake when she might have a role and can be investigated. Rather not remove roles potentially from the game if we have a choice.
 
StartingoverVet said:
As I mentioned above, I think lynching 3d3c today is a mistake when she might have a role and can be investigated. Rather not remove roles potentially from the game if we have a choice.
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I just don't know why the wolves would leave a potential role out there when they could eliminate one. Not adding up.
 
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