Thought I would start this as the cycle should be starting later this month. Good luck everyone!
You’re good, this made me curious so I just counted and I have 43 lolI opened it last year but this is my first time filling it out. Aaahhh! I already feel like I've messed up (33 experiences seems like too many but they say to put down everything, right?)
That's such a relief to hear cause I just realized I have more to add. This is silly!You’re good, this made me curious so I just counted and I have 43 lol
So much for being willing to give you a couch to surf onIf something in it is wrong, blame her; if something in it is the most brilliant advice you've ever seen, obviously I get all the credit
Truly follow this advice, every year there are applicants asking if they can get waivers for a sub 3.0 gpa. The answer is no, they will not make an exception.6. GPA cut offs are a thing. If you submit below a published GPA cut off, you just made a donation to the school.
Call them. This will be state and MA state law specific.In the citizenship information, it asks for legal state of residence. I live, work, and go to school in Texas. I have my license here and file taxes here. However, my parents and my permanent address are in Massachusetts, and I'm fairly sure I would be "in state" in MA since they claim me as a dependent. Do I put MA in this section?
Please for the love of god do not skip this step. I made this mistake the first time I applied and wasted almost $500 on applications the schools wouldn't even accept. Does it show up on your high school transcript? Does it show up on your college transcript? Doesn't matter. If it's a college class, report it as a separate institution.8. You need to submit a transcript from every higher education institution you attended. Community college while also in high school? Add to VMCAS and submit. Junior college 3 years ago before a gap year? Submit. 7 colleges cause you had to move a bunch? Submit.
Purdue does, I know that. I think that might be it?Are there any vet schools that absolutely require in-person interviews? I'm looking to cross those off of my list if there exist any
Thank you! I assumed most allow for remote, but I wasn't sure :')Purdue does, I know that. I think that might be it?
Mississippi State requires in person interviews.Are there any vet schools that absolutely require in-person interviews? I'm looking to cross those off of my list if there exist any
Honestly PTE is a waste of money. You can knock it out within a weekend if you have some time. But yes you can enter courses BEFORE paying for PTE, and will have to wait until verification is complete to add any other courses.Hi!
If you use the professional transcript entry service, can you add in addl courses taken prior to finalizing your app on your own? I'm considering the PTE as I have a long academic history, but I'm also taking a summer class and will be getting that transcript in at the "last minute."
Thanks
I'd skip the PTE, personally! Waste of money!Hi!
If you use the professional transcript entry service, can you add in addl courses taken prior to finalizing your app on your own? I'm considering the PTE as I have a long academic history, but I'm also taking a summer class and will be getting that transcript in at the "last minute."
Thanks
I know for a fact WSU has in person interviewsPurdue does, I know that. I think that might be it?
I applied last year for c/o 2028 and got waitlisted. Would it be recommended to apply again this cycle? Should I change my application at all, like personal statement? Or should I wait at least til April when students either accept/reject the school?13. No one can tell you the chances of being pulled from the wait-list. It changes every year for every school.
Does your IS school do file reviews? That would be your best indication if you need to address specific areas of your application.I applied last year for c/o 2028 and got waitlisted. Would it be recommended to apply again this cycle? Should I change my application at all, like personal statement? Or should I wait at least til April when students either accept/reject the school?
P.S. I was IS second time applying.
Unless those jobs were really important in some way, you don’t have to enter them.Employment history question: I've been working for nearly 30 years and cannot recall exact dates and such for part time jobs during high school. How important is the accuracy when entering these in VMCAS? Thanks!
@renacuaja Thank you so much!Unless those jobs were really important in some way, you don’t have to enter them.
I had like 10 years of work experience and I didn’t put in a couple jobs because I felt like my application was complete without them.
But if you want, you could maybe look at your tax transcript online (idk how far back they go) or make a rough but reasonable estimate.
It’s not like the school transcripts where if you don’t include it your application gets invalidated.
Sadly I don't believe WSu is doing file reviews to know what to improve on my application.Does your IS school do file reviews? That would be your best indication if you need to address specific areas of your application.
School dependent for pet ownership hours? I have never found any information about this on school websites. Is it necessary to include owning dogs/cats on the VMCAS?I have blatantly, unabashedly, and unapologetically stolen this post from @battie and modified it as I saw fit. If something in it is wrong, blame her; if something in it is the most brilliant advice you've ever seen, obviously I get all the credit
The cycle has opened for the class of 2029 and below is the obligatory unsolicited advice post that is necessary every year. These points are based on the most common questions that seem to roll around every year.
1. Consider yourself rejected until you receive an acceptance. As such, do not stop working on your application after you hit submit. Continue to gain hours, improve or maintain those grades, and do everything you would do before turning it in.
- It is an urban myth most veterinary students take multiple cycles for acceptance. The AAVMC reports that approximately 65-70% of incoming first year veterinary students are first time applicants. Make your application count.
- That being said, if it takes you more than one cycle, you are very much not alone!
2. You don't have to turn in your app right meow. There is no advantage to turning your application in early for the vast majority of schools. So turn it in when it's ready.
3. Updates are school-dependent. So ask them. Be aware you will likely get a generic answer with vague timelines.
4. Personal pets are worth limited hours (again, school-dependent). Be realistic about how many hours you assign for pet ownership.
5. Prerequisites are prerequisites. If a school doesn't require it, don't feel you have to take it. If a school does require, 99% of people will need to take it at 99% of schools 99% of the time. The majority of schools will not forgive/replace a prerequisite for the majority of applicants. The only way you'll know is if you email schools about your specific situation.
- Do not be surprised if you're rejected from a school due to prerequisites not being met if you haven't taken it and have not listed it as planned. How do the schools know you'll have it done otherwise?
6. GPA cut offs are a thing. If you submit below a published GPA cut off, you just made a donation to the school.
7. There will be radio silence for extended periods of time. Mentally prepare yourself to not hear from anyone for months at a time.
- This is a serious point. You will not get updates willy nilly. There are thousands of you and only dozens of admissions committee members per school. Check old threads for basic timelines.
8. You need to submit a transcript from every higher education institution you attended. Community college while also in high school? Add to VMCAS and submit. Junior college 3 years ago before a gap year? Submit. 7 colleges cause you had to move a bunch? Submit.
9. Provisional accreditation doesn't matter for the baby schools. As long as you pass the NAVLE and graduate, the AVMA will recognize your degree and you'll be a veterinarian. Deficient accreditation in the older schools also doesn't really matter. Every school has lapsed in some sort of accreditation standard at some point. They get x amount of time to resolve it and the resolution generally only benefits students.
10. Only apply to schools where you would 1) be willing/able to travel to for interviews and 2) would actually go if accepted. Actually sit down and think about what you would do if you were accepted to every school. As a (common) example, don't apply to the island schools just because of their reputation for being "easier" to get into; actually consider what it would mean to move to an island nation and those pros and cons.
- Every year, a portion of students gain an acceptance and a subsequent level of stress of actually realizing they will have to move to said place. If the coasts, Midwest, cold, hot, rural, big city, whatever difference from where you live that may actually be a challenge for you would be, don't apply to those schools. Don't waste your money/time.
11. Changing residency status by moving states: triple check the rules and get the exact requirements in writing from the university. Not the CVM or SVM. From the actual department at the university that controls residency status. The vet school doesn't determine that at all. Assume the worst: you would have to move a year prior to the *submission* of your application. Cause then, if you in fact don't have to be there until a year before *matriculation*, you're covered.
- You can assume someone has moved to such-and-such state to change residency. It just makes sense with how many people apply and attend vet school. Whether or not they're on SDN is hit or miss because there are really probably <100 active members on with probably 50% changing out year over year as people move on. So assume it's possible, it's been done, and, most importantly, *do the research yourself to find out the rules*. Every state is different and rules can change yearly due to state legislation.
12. No one single minutiae detail is likely to tank your application with exception of potentially legality aspects or an obvious (to the application committee) "red flag" . One C, or even one F, will likely not be the death knell of your application if you're overall well rounded. Only 15 hours of cow experience will not get you tossed in the garbage can.
- Focusing on these minutiae outside of the context of your overall application is not good for your mental health. If you have the thought of "Will X thing hurt my chances?" take a minute to consider the literally over 100,000 veterinarians practicing right now and think of the chances that some of them may have had a similar experience. If the answer is, "I guess this circumstance isn't all that unique to me," then chances are that thing won't tank your application.
13. No one can tell you the chances of being pulled from the wait-list. It changes every year for every school.
14. Have people read your personal statement. Have them give you feedback beyond "this is good." Take advantage of resources online to prepare for interviews - there are loads of resources out there for both MMI and behavioral interviews. Preparation shows and makes the interview go better for both you and the people conducting it.
No. If you do, be highly conservative.School dependent for pet ownership hours? I have never found any information about this on school websites. Is it necessary to include owning dogs/cats on the VMCAS?
School dependentDo classes like calculus/statistics count towards science GPA? Doing my research in the past, I didn't think so but now I'm second guessing myself.
I'd recommend going over it once more with fresh eyes yourself and asking other readers before recycling the same statement. The same goes for how you describe/input experiences. If you can read an experience and say "and?" or "so what?" consider if you've properly conveyed what the experience entailed.Currently waitlisted and preparing to reapply, is it mandatory to rewrite your personal statement or can you use it again? Or would I be able to make very minor changes and keep it mostly the same? I felt like i had a strong statement but my downfall may be a lack of variety in my experiences.
Pet ownership is finicky because accounting for every Fido or Fluffy cared for is nominal compared to other possible experiences. I recommend considering the uniqueness of pet ownership and care. Do you have a unique animal experience that highlights your readiness to tackle vet school? Animals with special conditions, needs, or care would be the only pets I'd consider including a strict interpretation of "is this relevant" in highlighting your strengths as an applicant.School dependent for pet ownership hours? I have never found any information about this on school websites. Is it necessary to include owning dogs/cats on the VMCAS?
I’ve heard from certain schools only add hours where you are in direct care of them such as special needs, show or work pets, medical care other than just observing their vet appointments. I would say just about everyone that goes into vet school has or has had pets and most time with them doesn’t directly correlate to someone being a qualified applicant.School dependent for pet ownership hours? I have never found any information about this on school websites. Is it necessary to include owning dogs/cats on the VMCAS?
My childhood dog had a stage 4/5 heart murmur for the last two years of her life and I spent the last two summers of undergrad working with her veterinarians and cardiologist to best adjust her meds and maintain her quality of life as best as we could. She passed away in October, RIP Summer. Do you feel that this would qualify as a special needs animal, or overall Is worthwhile including on my application? I sure learned a lot about what veterinary cardiologists do, end of life care, and CHF in general, but I don’t want to flood my application with irrelevant experiences. Thank you both @eleanor713 for your helpI'd recommend going over it once more with fresh eyes yourself and asking other readers before recycling the same statement. The same goes for how you describe/input experiences. If you can read an experience and say "and?" or "so what?" consider if you've properly conveyed what the experience entailed.
Pet ownership is finicky because accounting for every Fido or Fluffy cared for is nominal compared to other possible experiences. I recommend considering the uniqueness of pet ownership and care. Do you have a unique animal experience that highlights your readiness to tackle vet school? Animals with special conditions, needs, or care would be the only pets I'd consider including a strict interpretation of "is this relevant" in highlighting your strengths as an applicant.
I'm sorry for your loss but to be honest I wouldn't consider care of a CHF dog as a special needs dog for animal hours. A majority of applicants will have chronically ill pets on medications for example CKD cats and little old dogs with MMVD. I honestly can't think of a "special needs" pet where you could even get animal hours unless maybe you had an animal in a wheelchair or an indwelling feeding tube. You can mention her in your application in other ways for sure but I don't think animal experience hours. Curious to hear what other people might think about this topic it seems to come up every year.My childhood dog had a stage 4/5 heart murmur for the last two years of her life and I spent the last two summers of undergrad working with her veterinarians and cardiologist to best adjust her meds and maintain her quality of life as best as we could. She passed away in October, RIP Summer. Do you feel that this would qualify as a special needs animal, or overall Is worthwhile including on my application? I sure learned a lot about what veterinary cardiologists do, end of life care, and CHF in general, but I don’t want to flood my application with irrelevant experiences. Thank you both @eleanor713 for your help
I wish schools would be up front about this since it is a question ad nauseum. I don't think pet ownership hours should be included at all.Curious to hear what other people might think about this topic it seems to come up every year.
helloHowever, from the PhD side, it may be entirely different because that was managed by a different group of people as well. Paging @supershorty for her perspective
That makes sense! I’m mastering out of my chemistry PhD program so I assumed the ever-present necessity of funding was translated across disciplines. Thank you!hello
With the caveat that I have never been involved with the admissions process for the dual degree program PhD portion, beyond going through it myself, I'll say that attending campus events to "prove interest" is unlikely to have an effect on the decision. What can play a more significant role in PhD admissions is connecting with potential advisors who have the funding for additional graduate students in their labs. In theory, it might sway an outcome if a program knows that there is a funding option available for that student already. That being said, how much power that has is going to vary from program to program and likely ranges from negligible to mild (for dual programs, specifically).
1. Write as it's written on your transcriptPaging VMCAS support pls!
A few questions...
1. Should withdrawal be entered as a "W" or "WD" or whichever is on your transcript?
2. Would an associates in veterinary technology after a BS be considered post-bacc status?
3. If the transcript abbreviates the name of a class (i.e. "Gen" for "general"), should you write it out appropriately or use the abbreviation?
Thank you!