WAMC: URM, cGPA 3.45, sGPA 3.15 513 MCAT

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Academics: I need help with my school list, since my GPA is weak and MCAT is pretty mediocre. I already feel pretty bad having to reflect on these past few years, but might as well rip off the band-aid and move forward. I am an AA male who majored in neuroscience Columbia for undergrad, where I did fine, but was consistently a middle of the pack student. I mostly got “B+”s in my STEM classes, only getting an A in Orgo 1. The semester I took Biology 2 and Biology Lab, we went to P/F because of the pandemic, and I was anticipating an A in Bio Lab and at least another B+ in Biology 2, since I finally got used to my difficult professor’s style. The worst things on my transcript are a W from my freshman year in Calc 3, when I realized I didn’t need it for my major (my advisor thought I did and told me to take it), and during my final semester, I ended up in a Biochem course that I had heard was bad but had no idea how bad the professor was until I took it. Half the class dropped the class after the first exam and few ended up with A’s. I withdrew from my second semester of Orgo Lab (didnt need it to trad but needed biochem) and ended up with a C+. During my time, I was involved in various neuro/premed clubs, had 1 e-board position and was treasurer of another club. I also participated in the Quiz Bowl and various cultural clubs.

MCAT: 513 (C/P: 126, CARS: 132, B/B: 126, P/S: 129)

Clinical/shadowing: Since graduation, I’ve been working as a Clinical Research Coordinator at the local Children’s Hospital and it has reignited my love of medicine. I studied for the MCAT while working here and was hoping to offset my GPA, but that’s just the way life goes. I had severe asthma and allergies as a kid, and the hospital is actually where I spent a lot of my childhood. In fact, I’m working in the pulmonary division, so I am working alongside many doctors who knew me my whole life. I am getting a letter of recommendation from my former pulmonary specialist who mentored/encouraged me my eand am planning on getting one more from another doctor I work with, although I haven’t narrowed down who yet. I’ve been working here for months and have gotten shadowing, clinical and research experience during my duration.

Research: In terms of other research, I worked in a neuro lab during the summer before the last, did data extraction for another neuroscientist for over a year during the pandemic, and was the second author of a telemedicine systematic review in a low-tier journal with some doctors from Weill Cornell.
LORs: My strongest one will probably come from my mentor/pulmonary specialist, who used to work in admissions at the UW. The other doctors I am deciding between could also likely write strong letters bc of our close relationship. I am also getting a letter from the PI from the neuro lab, my orgo professor, one of my humanities professors, and I still haven’t heard back from my bio lab professor but the TA said she wrote positive notes about me to the professor if I ever needed a LOR.

School List: Before everything, I had always had this silly desire for the T20s but after I got my MCAT back and scored 4 points below my FL average, I had to reevaluate things, so this is my list:
UW (I’m a WA resident so this my number one choice), WSU, Einstein, NYMC, Tulane, Brown, Dartmouth, Albany, Temple, Jefferson, Drexel, Georgetown, Emory, Tufts, BU

Extreme Reaches: Mt Sinai, Duke, Columbia (very unlikely, only applying bc I went for undergrad and it’s still my dream school). I originally had hoped to shoot my shot at a few other T20s, knowing it wasn’t likely with my GPA, but now that I got my MCAT back and it’s become even less likely, I’ve accepted it probably isn’t worth the application fees. Sorry if this was hard to read, I just got my MCAT score back and wrote this while fasting. I can elaborate if anyone has any questions and thanks in advance

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Do you have any in person physician shadowing hours ? Do you have any clinical volunteering hours with patient contact ? Do you have any non clinical volunteering hours ?
 
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Do you have any in person physician shadowing hours ? Do you have any clinical volunteering hours with patient contact ? Do you have any non clinical volunteering hours ?
I have about 50 shadowing hours, but it’s ongoing. No clinical volunteer hours but I have patient content every tuesday and every other friday, due to work. I have about 200 hours of volunteering/tutoring at a local community center. They have food drives that I volunteer at. I also helped run a drive to distribute masks to people who lived in local government housing
 
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I have about 200 hours of volunteering/tutoring at a local community center
Every premed has done some tutoring, which does not demonstrate service orientation like food distribution, shelter work, job placement services, or housing rehabilitation. What are you doing at the center that is not tutoring or related to education?
 
Every premed has done some tutoring, which does not demonstrate service orientation like food distribution, shelter work, job placement services, or housing rehabilitation. What are you doing at the center that is not tutoring or related to education?
They have food drives that I volunteer at. I also helped run a drive to distribute masks to people who lived in local government housing
 
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I suggest these schools with your stats:
U Washington
Washington State
Kaiser
UCLA Drew
Tulane
Miami
Emory
Duke
Georgetown
George Washington
Jefferson
Pittsburgh
Einstein
Mount Sinai
Columbia
Cornell
Vermont
Dartmouth
Boston University
Tufts
Brown
Case Western
Cincinnati
U Michigan
Northwestern
U Chicago
 
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I suggest these schools with your stats:
U Washington
Washington State
Kaiser
UCLA Drew
Tulane
Miami
Emory
Duke
Georgetown
George Washington
Jefferson
Pittsburgh
Einstein
Mount Sinai
Columbia
Cornell
Vermont
Dartmouth
Boston University
Tufts
Brown
Case Western
Cincinnati
U Michigan
Northwestern
U Chicago
Thank you so much! This is really helpful
 
I suggest these schools with your stats:
U Washington
Washington State
Kaiser
UCLA Drew
Tulane
Miami
Emory
Duke
Georgetown
George Washington
Jefferson
Pittsburgh
Einstein
Mount Sinai
Columbia
Cornell
Vermont
Dartmouth
Boston University
Tufts
Brown
Case Western
Cincinnati
U Michigan
Northwestern
U Chicago
Do you think Stanford would be too much of a reach? I heard they are more holistic than other T20s
 
You could try Stanford.
Sorry to bother you, but I’m finalizing my school list and I was wondering if you think I could try some of the other UCs? Do you know which ones have a more in-state preference?
 
Where in California did you spend most of your childhood?
Sorry, I should have been more clear, I meant as an out of state applicant, which schools should I avoid applying to due to a strong preference of in-state applicants
 
Sorry to bother you, but I’m finalizing my school list and I was wondering if you think I could try some of the other UCs? Do you know which ones have a more in-state preference?
They all have an instate preference. You already have UCLA Drew on the list. UC Davis, UC Riverside and UC Davis admit fewer than 20 non residents for the 3 schools combined.
 
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@Faha @Mr.Smile12
Sorry to bother you guys, but in light of the recent ruling by the supreme court, I am worried that this school list will now be too “top-heavy” for me? I did apply to a few more “safety” schools (if those even exist in the med school process) but I mostly followed this list and am feeling pretty nervous about it. Thoughts?
 
Which schools did you apply to ?
From your list,
U Washington
Washington State
Kaiser
UCLA Drew
Emory
Duke
Georgetown
George Washington
Jefferson
Pittsburgh
Einstein
Mount Sinai
Columbia
Cornell
Dartmouth
Brown
Case Western
U Michigan
Northwestern
U Chicago
and then Stanford, Oregon, and Morehouse
 
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Some of the top tier schools will be more difficult with the Supreme Court decision. You could add schools such as Miami, Tulane, Jefferson, Tufts, Boston University, St. Louis.
 
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Some of the top tier schools will be more difficult with the Supreme Court decision. You could add schools such as Miami, Tulane, Jefferson, Tufts, Boston University, St. Louis.
Thanks for the advice. It’s a little disappointing but that’s the way life goes.
 
In-state, don't worry about it. Apply for mission fit, not for prestige. I suspect the HBCU medical schools will get more applications from URMs especially from SES backgrounds.

 
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In-state, don't worry about it. Apply for mission fit, not for prestige. I suspect the HBCU medical schools will get more applications from URMs especially from SES backgrounds.

I’m just paranoid now that AdComs will want to avoid the scrutiny and hassle that will come from accepting a black applicant with mediocre stats like mine and am scared they will avoid the legal trouble all together. I’m definitely glad I applied to HBCUs, my goal is to serve underserved communities and I don’t need the Ivies to do that.
 
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I’m just paranoid now that AdComs will want to avoid the scrutiny and hassle that will come from accepting a black applicant with mediocre stats like mine and am scared they will avoid the legal trouble all together. I’m definitely glad I applied to HBCUs, my goal is to serve underserved communities and I don’t need the Ivies to do that. I am also glad to live in Washington state, although I still fear the implications of the federal ban.
You cannot control what the schools do. Legal counsel will advise. I just suspect that since AA was not allowed in Washington that you shouldn't be worried about the federal ban since both schools were public and subject to the state ban.

What you can do is scrutinize the reaction of the programs and whether their talk is backed up by students and alumni at the school. Having a mentor from a similar background who is in medical education will help allay concerns.

Most universities have been risk managing and preparing since the Fisher case hit the lower court dockets. There should not be any earthquakes.
 
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Washington state has had to comply with a state mandate for race-blind admissions. Here's a short video from the Hidden Barriers series. Leila Harrison from WSU Med is featured.
 
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