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Date of submission: Submitted 2 on July 10 and 2 on Sept 19 after taking DAT sept 4 (didn’t submit more apps because considering applying next cycle)

Overall undergraduate GPA: 3.48
Overall masters GPA: 3.78
Science GPA: 3.59


DAT score (include AA and all sections): 18 AA
20TS
21OCH
20GCH
18BIO
18RCT
19 PAT
13 QRT (due to personal reasons I was only able to really study for about 2 months and couldn’t finish studying for QR)

State of Residence: RI

Undergrad Attended: Rhode Island College
Grad attended: NYU

Major: BS in Biology and BA in Chemistry
Minor: math minor
Minority? Yes
Reapplicant? No
Nontrad? Yes (I think) I did a MS after undergrad

Shadowing Experience:

• 70+ hours in general dentistry and got to shadow/assist in a CE course
• Volunteered as a intern/sterile tech
• Dental assistant (1.5 yrs)

Volunteering Experience:

• Volunteered as a dental intern/sterile tech, Pathfinders SDA Club Staff (also did community service with the members during my time as a staff), Spanish translator in free clinic, volunteer at gallery as event coordinator once a month

Employment:

• 5 years work study as a reference associate at my undergraduate library
• STEM tutor for TRIO program at my school
• Camp Counselor for autistic children (~2week long)
• Dental receptionist (7months)
• Dental assistant (1.5 years)
• Retail
• Zoo staff
• Starting new DA job this week

Research:

• SROP- Research assistant in University of Michigan School of Dentistry- gave a presentation and was acknowledged in 2 Nature publications on bone regeneration (PI was provost of UMich)
• SURF- research assistant - presented at conference- researched S aureus biofilms
• McNair Scholar- research assistant- did research on liver disease (NAFLD)
• Honors in Biology- research assistant- continued NAFLD Research and wrote a 40+ page honors thesis
• NYU MS program- wrote a 40+ page thesis on Silver Diamine Fluoride (literature review)

Other Extracurriculars:

• VP of STEM club, member of Pre Health club in undergrad, member of Pre Dental society in masters, LASO, NHMA College health scholar, virtual UMich PFS Program, HSDA BOLD member
• For dexterity I am a DA, play piano, do my own nails (I even have my own drill and curing light!), drawing, digital art, sculpting, and salsa dancing

Have you volunteered/shadowed/attended events at any dental schools?

• NYU HSDA Conference/ BOLD Pre dental day
• NYU pre dental society events
• Brown Pre dental day

Relevant Honors or Awards:

• Deans list
• Cum laude
• Honors in Biology
• NYU Deans Full tuition scholarship for MS
• 1 Departmental scholarship
• 2 prehealth scholarships
• 3 in-house scholarships

LOR type and strength:

• Strong: PI/CMB professor
• Strong: physical chemistry professor
• Strong: dentist from DA job
• Strong: McNair Scholars Program Coordinator
• If I apply next cycle I have about 5 more LORs that I can use for a committee letter (1 from dentist, 1 from PI, 3 from bio professors)

Misc Info/Things not stated elsewhere/Red Flags:

• Failed 3 classes first semester of college and calc 2, but retook all and passed with As.
• C in genetics
• Upwards trend

School list:
This cycle, I only applied to UCSF, Tufts, UB, and Roseman, but I am now refining my list (based on the ADEA OG Dental School ‘23-‘24 list) since my DAT score was pretty low.

I am looking for schools with AA 5-95th percentile ranges of 18~25, OOS friendly, and no minimum DAT scores/cutoffs.

I would appreciate any suggestions on schools I should apply to with my stats! I did not take Anatomy or Micro so I know that disqualifies me from some target schools I could’ve applied for.

 

[macsak]

please fill out a full WAMC template...

I converted my scores and got a 18AA 20TS (18BIO 20GC 21OC) 19PAT 18RC and 13QR 😭 This is my first time taking DAT. I only had 2 months to really study due to personal reasons (not trying to make excuses) and couldn’t finish studying for QR. But I gave it my best despite my circumstances!

I feel that I have a well rounded application and have been told I’m a strong applicant by my advisors/mentors/professors (well…that was prior to taking the DAT😂). I also have a masters (3.8gpa w/ full tuition scholarship), and 2 undergrad degrees in bio and chem (3.49 gpa bc I had rough 1st semester but retook and got As). I have done 3 research internships (I even contributed to 2 Nature publications!), honors in biology, dental assistant, volunteering, some leadership, lots of shadowing, etc.

I know my score is low and it’s late within the cycle, but I already submitted 2 apps early July and now I’m not sure what to do. I’ve seen people get in with low scores so I know it’s not impossible. But Ive also heard schools can screen you out if you don’t score well in a section? I just feel like something has to give at this point :/

 

[gogogo1230]

please fill out a full WAMC template...

Fixed it 🙂

 

[macsak]

Date of submission: Submitted 2 on July 10 and 2 on Sept 19 after taking DAT sept 4 (didn’t submit more apps because considering applying next cycle)

Overall undergraduate GPA: 3.48
Overall masters GPA: 3.78
Science GPA: 3.59


DAT score (include AA and all sections): 18 AA
20TS
21OCH
20GCH
18BIO
18RCT
19 PAT
13 QRT (due to personal reasons I was only able to really study for about 2 months and couldn’t finish studying for QR)

State of Residence: RI

Undergrad Attended: Rhode Island College
Grad attended: NYU

Major: BS in Biology and BA in Chemistry
Minor: math minor
Minority? Yes
Reapplicant? No
Nontrad? Yes (I think) I did a MS after undergrad

Shadowing Experience:

• 70+ hours in general dentistry and got to shadow/assist in a CE course
• Volunteered as a intern/sterile tech
• Dental assistant (1.5 yrs)

Volunteering Experience:

• Volunteered as a dental intern/sterile tech, Pathfinders SDA Club Staff (also did community service with the members during my time as a staff), Spanish translator in free clinic, volunteer at gallery as event coordinator once a month

Employment:

• 5 years work study as a reference associate at my undergraduate library
• STEM tutor for TRIO program at my school
• Camp Counselor for autistic children (~2week long)
• Dental receptionist (7months)
• Dental assistant (1.5 years)
• Retail
• Zoo staff
• Starting new DA job this week

Research:

• SROP- Research assistant in University of Michigan School of Dentistry- gave a presentation and was acknowledged in 2 Nature publications on bone regeneration (PI was provost of UMich)
• SURF- research assistant - presented at conference- researched S aureus biofilms
• McNair Scholar- research assistant- did research on liver disease (NAFLD)
• Honors in Biology- research assistant- continued NAFLD Research and wrote a 40+ page honors thesis
• NYU MS program- wrote a 40+ page thesis on Silver Diamine Fluoride (literature review)

Other Extracurriculars:

• VP of STEM club, member of Pre Health club in undergrad, member of Pre Dental society in masters, LASO, NHMA College health scholar, virtual UMich PFS Program, HSDA BOLD member
• For dexterity I am a DA, play piano, do my own nails (I even have my own drill and curing light!), drawing, digital art, sculpting, and salsa dancing

Have you volunteered/shadowed/attended events at any dental schools?

• NYU HSDA Conference/ BOLD Pre dental day
• NYU pre dental society events
• Brown Pre dental day

Relevant Honors or Awards:

• Deans list
• Cum laude
• Honors in Biology
• NYU Deans Full tuition scholarship for MS
• 1 Departmental scholarship
• 2 prehealth scholarships
• 3 in-house scholarships

LOR type and strength:

• Strong: PI/CMB professor
• Strong: physical chemistry professor
• Strong: dentist from DA job
• Strong: McNair Scholars Program Coordinator
• If I apply next cycle I have about 5 more LORs that I can use for a committee letter (1 from dentist, 1 from PI, 3 from bio professors)

Misc Info/Things not stated elsewhere/Red Flags:

• Failed 3 classes first semester of college and calc 2, but retook all and passed with As.
• C in genetics
• Upwards trend

School list:
This cycle, I only applied to UCSF, Tufts, UB, and Roseman, but I am now refining my list (based on the ADEA OG Dental School ‘23-‘24 list) since my DAT score was pretty low.

I am looking for schools with AA 5-95th percentile ranges of 18~25, OOS friendly, and no minimum DAT scores/cutoffs.

I would appreciate any suggestions on schools I should apply to with my stats! I did not take Anatomy or Micro so I know that disqualifies me from some target schools I could’ve applied for.

was your MS an SMP?
what did NYU admissions advise you to do?

 

[gogogo1230]

I did a MS in oral biology

I don’t have a prehealth advisor as a MS Student in NYU. My undergrad prehealth advisor/mentors/professors all said I was a strong applicant but that was prior to taking my DAT. I don’t know how they’d feel now and my advisor retired. My previous employer suggested I retake but I would need to be unemployed for another 2-3 months and that just doesn’t feel possible right now.

 

[macsak]

I did a MS in oral biology

I don’t have a prehealth advisor as a MS Student in NYU. My undergrad prehealth advisor/mentors/professors all said I was a strong applicant but that was prior to taking my DAT. I don’t know how they’d feel now and my advisor retired. My previous employer suggested I retake but I would need to be unemployed for another 2-3 months and that just doesn’t feel possible right now.

i'm not asking about advisors or mentors...

 

[macsak]

Date of submission: Submitted 2 on July 10 and 2 on Sept 19 after taking DAT sept 4 (didn’t submit more apps because considering applying next cycle)

Overall undergraduate GPA: 3.48
Overall masters GPA: 3.78
Science GPA: 3.59


DAT score (include AA and all sections): 18 AA
20TS
21OCH
20GCH
18BIO
18RCT
19 PAT
13 QRT (due to personal reasons I was only able to really study for about 2 months and couldn’t finish studying for QR)

State of Residence: RI

Undergrad Attended: Rhode Island College
Grad attended: NYU

Major: BS in Biology and BA in Chemistry
Minor: math minor
Minority? Yes
Reapplicant? No
Nontrad? Yes (I think) I did a MS after undergrad

Shadowing Experience:

• 70+ hours in general dentistry and got to shadow/assist in a CE course
• Volunteered as a intern/sterile tech
• Dental assistant (1.5 yrs)

Volunteering Experience:

• Volunteered as a dental intern/sterile tech, Pathfinders SDA Club Staff (also did community service with the members during my time as a staff), Spanish translator in free clinic, volunteer at gallery as event coordinator once a month

Employment:

• 5 years work study as a reference associate at my undergraduate library
• STEM tutor for TRIO program at my school
• Camp Counselor for autistic children (~2week long)
• Dental receptionist (7months)
• Dental assistant (1.5 years)
• Retail
• Zoo staff
• Starting new DA job this week

Research:

• SROP- Research assistant in University of Michigan School of Dentistry- gave a presentation and was acknowledged in 2 Nature publications on bone regeneration (PI was provost of UMich)
• SURF- research assistant - presented at conference- researched S aureus biofilms
• McNair Scholar- research assistant- did research on liver disease (NAFLD)
• Honors in Biology- research assistant- continued NAFLD Research and wrote a 40+ page honors thesis
• NYU MS program- wrote a 40+ page thesis on Silver Diamine Fluoride (literature review)

Other Extracurriculars:

• VP of STEM club, member of Pre Health club in undergrad, member of Pre Dental society in masters, LASO, NHMA College health scholar, virtual UMich PFS Program, HSDA BOLD member
• For dexterity I am a DA, play piano, do my own nails (I even have my own drill and curing light!), drawing, digital art, sculpting, and salsa dancing

Have you volunteered/shadowed/attended events at any dental schools?

• NYU HSDA Conference/ BOLD Pre dental day
• NYU pre dental society events
• Brown Pre dental day

Relevant Honors or Awards:

• Deans list
• Cum laude
• Honors in Biology
• NYU Deans Full tuition scholarship for MS
• 1 Departmental scholarship
• 2 prehealth scholarships
• 3 in-house scholarships

LOR type and strength:

• Strong: PI/CMB professor
• Strong: physical chemistry professor
• Strong: dentist from DA job
• Strong: McNair Scholars Program Coordinator
• If I apply next cycle I have about 5 more LORs that I can use for a committee letter (1 from dentist, 1 from PI, 3 from bio professors)

Misc Info/Things not stated elsewhere/Red Flags:

• Failed 3 classes first semester of college and calc 2, but retook all and passed with As.
• C in genetics
• Upwards trend

School list:
This cycle, I only applied to UCSF, Tufts, UB, and Roseman, but I am now refining my list (based on the ADEA OG Dental School ‘23-‘24 list) since my DAT score was pretty low.

I am looking for schools with AA 5-95th percentile ranges of 18~25, OOS friendly, and no minimum DAT scores/cutoffs.

I would appreciate any suggestions on schools I should apply to with my stats! I did not take Anatomy or Micro so I know that disqualifies me from some target schools I could’ve applied for.

is "UB" buffalo or boston?
how did you come up with this list?

 

[gogogo1230]

i'm not asking about advisors or mentors...

Oh you asked what did NYU admissions advise…so I thought you meant what my NYU advisors said regarding my apps… I don’t plan on applying to NYU so I didn’t talk to their admissions. Can you clarify what you meant?

 

[gogogo1230]

is "UB" buffalo or boston?
how did you come up with this list?

Buffalo.

I made my list using ADEA OG and looked at stats on their websites.

 

[macsak]

Oh you asked what did NYU admissions advise…so I thought you meant what my NYU advisors said regarding my apps… I don’t plan on applying to NYU so I didn’t talk to their admissions. Can you clarify what you meant?

i meant what i said
"what did NYU admissions advise you to do?"

 

[macsak]

Buffalo.

I made my list using ADEA OG and looked at stats on their websites.

thanks
you get interview invites and acceptances from mission fit
"stats" are not mission fit...

 

[macsak]

thanks
you get interview invites and acceptances from mission fit
"stats" are not mission fit...

have you interacted with the national dental school organization that matches your minority group?

 

[Mr.Smile12]

Welcome to the forums.

Roseman doesn't make sense and probably isn't a great fit with your undergrad metrics. Let's see if they weigh your MS performance better. But it's hard to argue wanting to go all the way out to Utah as an OOS/private school student. UCSF also feels out of range.

Is there a reason you did not apply to PR dental schools like Ponce, UPR, Mendez (new PR school); how about Touro NYMC, Rutgers? Did any of these schools network with you at the HSDA conference?

 

[macsak]

have you interacted with the national dental school organization that matches your minority group?

oops, missed the hsda reference

have you sought advice from people from HSDA?

 

[gogogo1230]

thanks
you get interview invites and acceptances from mission fit
"stats" are not mission fit...

thanks
you get interview invites and acceptances from mission fit
"stats" are not mission fit...

have you interacted with the national dental school organization that matches your minority group?

thanks
you get interview invites and acceptances from mission fit
"stats" are not mission fit...

Yes, but they are essential 🙂 So I first picked my schools based on what I qualified for with what I have, and then refined my list based off of fit. I have a longer list on my laptop that I plan on applying to next cycle.

Yes, I interacted with my mentors who are from the national orgs that match my identity.

 

[gogogo1230]

Welcome to the forums.

Roseman doesn't make sense and probably isn't a great fit with your undergrad metrics. Let's see if they weigh your MS performance better. But it's hard to argue wanting to go all the way out to Utah as an OOS/private school student. UCSF also feels out of range.

Is there a reason you did not apply to PR dental schools like Ponce, UPR, Mendez (new PR school); how about Touro NYMC, Rutgers? Did any of these schools network with you at the HSDA conference?

Hi! I have a longer list and these are just the 4 that I didn’t mind applying to this cycle. I plan on applying again next cycle if no luck this cycle. I chose Roseman because according to ADEA OG they had 81% OOS enrollees, my stats are within range, and I liked the school. UCSF is my dream school so I didn’t mind applying this cycle to see the outcome.

I didn’t apply to schools in PR because they’re not OOS friendly, but I will consider it 🙂

Yes, I have Touro and Rutgers on my list but for next cycle.

 

[drDental_]

FYI Per the latest version of the ADEA Official Guide to Dental Schools, Roseman had an OOS enrollment rate of 69.3%. However, OOS-friendliness does not equate to OOS enrollment rate; instead, OOS-friendliness equals the OOS acceptance rate relative to the OOS applicant pool, which was ~ 7.39%. PHSU (in PR) was actually more OOS-friendly than Roseman, (~ 8.5%).

 

[freezingsneezing]

oops, missed the hsda reference

have you sought advice from people from HSDA

oops, missed the hsda reference

have you sought advice from people from HSDA?

Hey, could you take a look at your private messages? Thanks!

 

[gogogo1230]

Hey, could you take a look at your private messages? Thanks!

Hi I did not receive one