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This is more exciting than the Oscars this year.
A 222. Wanted to do ENT, I'll be lucky get my MD and match anything now. Actually I don't even deserve to match. I really did give this is my all, I really did. Completed all of Uworld (73% percentile), multiple times I did Pathoma, multiple times I did Sketchy, multiple times I did FA. And for what? A failure. That's all I am in life, a failure. I wish I could give you guys advice on how to study for Step, but you don't want mine. I was a very strong applicant to medical school in every regard, but my low 30s MCAT held me back then. I had to explain myself on every interview. Luckily one good school gave me a chance. In retrospect they shouldn't have. I disgraced my med school, my family, and most of all myself.
I did well the first two years. I have 5 first author publications (real publications, not that case report crap), 7 poster/oral presentations. All that time I spent, all for nothing. Well I take that back, at least I hope it helps the field, the field I'm never going to be a part of. And that's the hardest part, I never will be a part of the field because I just can't take a freaking standardized test to save my life. The best part is that I have an oral presentation on my research at a meeting coming up in a couple of months. I have to figure out how to pull myself together to give this talk to a bunch of academic ENTs, because deep down inside I just feel embarrassed now. Just so embarrassed. I'm even embarrassed to talk to my mentor anymore. The supportive 4th years and residents told me that you aren't your score, but God knows that's just how I (and every residency program) am going to see myself for the next two years. It was the same way with my MCAT score (everything else was good, actually great...but that score defined me and now this score defines me). I purposely never met with my program director here to show interest just in case this happened, and well, it happened.
If I could just give any advice to any 1st or 2nd years reading this (especially if you struggled with standardized tests like I have my whole life), try your hardest. The test is difficult especially if you are stupid like me or aren't a good test taker like me. You don't want to be as broken apart as I am right now. I'm going to keep trying hard on my rotations to honor them and keep writing papers, but I know in my heart that I just ruined my life, plain and simple.
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I would, but my identity would become obvious if I went back and put up those posts. I'm not 100% anonymous here, but I prefer to make people work for that information.
Oh, I don't know that. Let me tell you what I do know. Every day I come by to check on @failedatlife. And I read his old posts and have a few laughs, and it's great. But you know what the best part of my day is? It's for about ten seconds from when I log in to when I search his username. Because I think maybe I'll click on his profile and he won't be there. No goodbye, no see you later, no nothin'. Just left. I don't know much, but I know that.I can only imagine his silence means he matched. If failedatlife didn't match he'd be here immediately to talk about it.
Oh, I don't know that. Let me tell you what I do know. Every day I come by to check on @failedatlife. And I read his old posts and have a few laughs, and it's great. But you know what the best part of my day is? It's for about ten seconds from when I log in to when I search his username. Because I think maybe I'll click on his profile and he won't be there. No goodbye, no see you later, no nothin'. Just left. I don't know much, but I know that.
The best part of your day is the uncertainty of an internet stranger? That's the saddest **** I've ever heard. Get help man.
from failedatlife to lambothrulifeHe probably has to change his username if he matched, so now a new alias!
OK for IM/FM/Gas/EM etc.... Not ok for ENT though.
Eh remember our old pal is from a top school. He has some leeway. Not to mention there were 11 SOAP spots this year. My money is on the fact that he matched and we will never see him again lol
Why are you guys speculating about the outcome of a made-up scenario from a satirical account that was created solely to mock med student jealousy, self-consciousness, and neuroticism?
A 222. Wanted to do ENT, I'll be lucky get my MD and match anything now. Actually I don't even deserve to match. I really did give this is my all, I really did. Completed all of Uworld (73% percentile), multiple times I did Pathoma, multiple times I did Sketchy, multiple times I did FA. And for what? A failure. That's all I am in life, a failure. I wish I could give you guys advice on how to study for Step, but you don't want mine. I was a very strong applicant to medical school in every regard, but my low 30s MCAT held me back then. I had to explain myself on every interview. Luckily one good school gave me a chance. In retrospect they shouldn't have. I disgraced my med school, my family, and most of all myself.
I did well the first two years. I have 5 first author publications (real publications, not that case report crap), 7 poster/oral presentations. All that time I spent, all for nothing. Well I take that back, at least I hope it helps the field, the field I'm never going to be a part of. And that's the hardest part, I never will be a part of the field because I just can't take a freaking standardized test to save my life. The best part is that I have an oral presentation on my research at a meeting coming up in a couple of months. I have to figure out how to pull myself together to give this talk to a bunch of academic ENTs, because deep down inside I just feel embarrassed now. Just so embarrassed. I'm even embarrassed to talk to my mentor anymore. The supportive 4th years and residents told me that you aren't your score, but God knows that's just how I (and every residency program) am going to see myself for the next two years. It was the same way with my MCAT score (everything else was good, actually great...but that score defined me and now this score defines me). I purposely never met with my program director here to show interest just in case this happened, and well, it happened.
If I could just give any advice to any 1st or 2nd years reading this (especially if you struggled with standardized tests like I have my whole life), try your hardest. The test is difficult especially if you are stupid like me or aren't a good test taker like me. You don't want to be as broken apart as I am right now. I'm going to keep trying hard on my rotations to honor them and keep writing papers, but I know in my heart that I just ruined my life, plain and simple.
This is what I’ve hoped he would do because top school + lots of pubs would make this easy even with a (passing! 30-something percentile!) 222, but I’m pretty sure he was ENT or bust.If we're placing bets, I'm going with "Chickened out, applied to IM/FM or Psych and matched."
If it had just been this one melodramatic post I wouldn’t care, but OP kept the act up and now we are invested.Why are you guys speculating about the outcome of a made-up scenario from a satirical account that was created solely to mock med student jealousy, self-consciousness, and neuroticism?
We wont hear from him in a while until he encounters a hot nurse who doesnt care he matched into ENT and he comes to complain about it.
That’s some bull****. He better at least drop in on his way out to say “matched ent” or something. Come on @failedatlife!
I want to give some perspective on this. You might be ruled out for ENT, but ENT is just a job. There are a lot of IMGs who are crying right now because they have gone many cycles without matching. There are even AMGs who have their careers ending in medicine because they cannot match in ANY residency. Not just ENT.
OP, right now you have the oppurtunity to go into a lot of fields that will give you a six figure salary and you are gonna be in the top 5% (1%?) of earners in the United States. You shouldn't be crying just because one door might be shut. There are a lot more that are open.
Boo hoo carib/ foriegn grads can't get jobs wahhhh
Or maybe they should have listened to the boat load (pun intended for Ross students) of advice from numerous sources and not matriculate at a Caribbean school for this exact reason.Feelsbad when people have fallen low enough to make light of other people's suffering. -_-
Or maybe they should have listened to the boat load (pun intended for Ross students) of advice from numerous sources and not matriculate at a Caribbean school for this exact reason.
See, that's the thing though, many of these students don't know how bad of a decision it was until it's too late and there's still a lot of bad advice being given. I know relatively new attending physicians (USMGs) who are still telling pre-meds that the Carib is a good decision and encourage them to take that route. I've also talked to pre-meds and told them it was bad advice, but their thought process is "Who should I believe, a med student or an actual physician?", which is tough to argue with when they believe those attendings know what they're talking about.
See, that's the thing though, many of these students don't know how bad of a decision it was until it's too late and there's still a lot of bad advice being given. I know relatively new attending physicians (USMGs) who are still telling pre-meds that the Carib is a good decision and encourage them to take that route. I've also talked to pre-meds and told them it was bad advice, but their thought process is "Who should I believe, a med student or an actual physician?", which is tough to argue with when they believe those attendings know what they're talking about.
I have encountered this too. Complicated by the attending's son currently going to a big 4 carib school
Eh remember our old pal is from a top school. He has some leeway. Not to mention there were 11 SOAP spots this year. My money is on the fact that he matched and we will never see him again lol
20 years ago I would have said go Caribbean over DO if it's SGU/Ross/AUC. These days though, it is a fool's bargain.This. One of my very favorite attendings is a Ross grad. I don’t know if he’s encouraging them to look at the Caribbean or not— I know he does encourage DO as well as US MD. I do know that he had a very good experience and landed a great IM residency/fellowship coming out of Ross, but that was 15-20 years ago. I never considered Caribbean, but had I been a premed in undergrad, 21-year-old me would have trusted an attending I shadowed more than strangers from the internet, to my detriment.
Come to think of it, I wouldn't... One DO attending I worked with failed COMLEX 1 once and the CE section twice and she told me she was still able to find an AOA approved internship spot off cycle... and that was in 2006.20 years ago I would have said go Caribbean over DO if it's SGU/Ross/AUC. These days though, it is a fool's bargain.
I don't bank on failure though. A student with an average USMLE coming out of SGU had some pretty nice options back in the day.Come to think of it, I wouldn't... One DO attending I worked with failed COMLEX 1 once and the CE section twice and she told me she was still able to find an AOA approved internship spot off cycle... and that was in 2006.
The system is too forgiven to US students....
No one thinks they can fail (classes/step) when they start med school, but it happens though... My risk averse self would make me choose DO in a heart beat over any Carib school... even 20 years ago.I don't bank on failure though. A student with an average USMLE coming out of SGU had some pretty nice options back in the day.
If someone is so risk averse as to believe they would fail their boards outright, they probably shouldn't go to medical school.No one thinks they can fail (classes/step) when they start med school, but it happens though... My risk averse self would make me choose DO in a heart beat over any Carib school... even 20 years ago.
If someone is so risk averse as to believe they would fail their boards outright, they probably shouldn't go to medical school.
They also used to accept a higher caliber of student and had smaller class sizes. Failure was less likely than today. Now though, even students that do well can end up in bad spots, it just isn't worth it.I think he meant since failures happen, why would you go to the school with little to no resources and a business model of kicking students out who are underperforming?
They also used to accept a higher caliber of student and had smaller class sizes. Failure was less likely than today. Now though, even students that do well can end up in bad spots, it just isn't worth it.
A great necrobump somehow devolves into another MD vs DO vs Carib debate....
20 years ago I would have said go Caribbean over DO if it's SGU/Ross/AUC. These days though, it is a fool's bargain.
TBPH, I am someone who don't care about the MD vs. DO BS anyway to the point that I almost gave up my MD acceptance to go to WVSOM because it was a better fit for me. The only thing that held me back was 50k vs. 35k tuition. If tuitions were the same, I would have been a DO now and I would be perfectly ecstatic being a DO--a physician.
I remember they asked me in my DO interview why I want to be a DO... My answer was: 'I want to be a physician; DO/MD will serve me the same purpose for what I want to do with my career'. I did did not use the OMM rant that most DO applicants use.
Every time I see this thread updated I hope he posts. Troll or great life experience of overcoming, complete failure, any way you slice it the ending will be epic! And yet none of us have the answer yet. Come on man, spill the beans!