Why So Many?

[RickCo]

---

Members don't see this ad.

I think the inherent flaw in this argument is that hard work can be, and often is, confused with intelligence. Judging someone's intelligence, especially on the basis of performance in a course, is therefore irrelevant.

 

[Frank22]

I think the inherent flaw in this argument is that hard work can be, and often is, confused with intelligence. Judging someone's intelligence, especially on the basis of performance in a course, is therefore irrelevant.

Please read my last post. 🙂

 

[RickCo]

Please read my last post. 🙂

Oh yeah, that's closer to the truth of it. Sorry, as the thread rapidly degenerated, I started skimming.

Edit: That all said, not to wax too poetic, but aiming high is a trait that I hope I can instill in my own children someday. Better to aim high, in my opinion.

 

[UltimateHombre]

That being said, I would note that although there are factors outside of intelligence that make for a great dentist (manual dexterity, interpersonal intelligence, and et cetera) there is a minimum threshold of intelligence, or more specifically the g-factor, that is necessary for one to be a dentist, just as there is for one to be a mathematician, pianist, banker, priest, CEO, or any other career for that matter. Furthermore, and for all intents and purposes, one does not need to measure the intelligence of a student to know that he or she is not intelligent enough to be a dentist when he or she studies for numerous hours on an extremely rudimentary science test and still cannot pass the exam. Yes, the most accurate measure of intelligence thus far is IQ, or specifically the WAIS-III and WAIS-IV tests, but one is able to tell whether another is intelligent or not by simply looking at his or her oratorical ability, rhetoric, and academic achievements. Finally, there are some students who are very intelligent and still do not do well academically for a plethora of reasons, but this evades the main issue, which is that of a student who studies incessantly and cannot succeed despite his or her most earnest efforts to do so.

Frank, i get what you are attempting to communicate about the intelligence threshold. But the flaw here, is that you are assuming that those that fail classes are unintelligent. You assume that they study for hours for the tests. And you assume there is nothing going on in their lives that could be having adverse effects on their academic performance. Every single one of those assumptions could be wrong and your whole argument/question is off base. Furthermore, you are belittling those who have high aspirations, yet can't handle the coursework. Those that fail those classes, may go on to do great things and have other strengths that are not academic... there is no need to state they are unintelligent.

Maybe you should read the "3.0 and under club" and see just how many people who "failed" college science classes actually made it to be dentists.

Or maybe you should read this thread, about a man's determination to be a dentist, despite failing classes and unbelievable hardships: http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=1023693 Is he unintelligent? Does he pass the threshold? By your small observations at your CC and the opinion you have stated here, you would define him as such.

Lastly, when you make comments like this...

I also had a cousin who wanted to be a doctor but couldn't pass algebra? Amazing!

It is communicated as elitist, arrogant, abrasive, and insensitive. Whether you see it that way or not... that is still the way it comes off.

 

[UCSFx2017]

Where did I force any of the aforementioned accusations upon anyone? I said that someone who couldn't pass an elementary biology course at a CC can't meet the intellectual demands of being a dentist [,at the moment]. I would also say that one who can't pass a course in algebra cannot be a rocket scientist [,at the moment], nor can someone who can't do a pushup be a marine [,at the moment]. That is not being harsh, it is not even realism; it is common sense.

There I fixed it for you. In the classroom setting, there are a few ways that you can predict a child's success in life (work, education, or personal). One of the ways is whether the child sees their academic performance as changeable or unchangeable. For children who see their performance as changeable, their motivation stems from optimism. "People who are optimistic see a failure as due to something that can be changed so that they can succeed next time around, while pessimists take the blame for failure, ascribing it to some lasting characteristic they are helpless to change...People's beliefs about their abilities have a profound effect on those abilities. Ability is not a fixed property; there is a huge variability in how you perform. People who have a sense of self-efficacy bounce back from failure; they approach things in terms of how to handle them rather than worrying about what can go wrong."

So that person who you say cannot possibly become a dentist is partly true. Right now, they, in their current condition cannot become a dentist. But, in the future, they can change and then become qualified to become a dentist.

By the way, I could not pass Algebra in middle school and no one from my high school would have thought that I would get into dental school. I was class clown and a video-game junky.

http://www.ppc.sas.upenn.edu/asq.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Learned_helplessness

http://www.amazon.com/Emotional-Intelligence-Matter-More-Than/dp/055338371X

 

[Frank22]

Frank, i get what you are attempting to communicate about the intelligence threshold. But the flaw here, is that you are assuming that those that fail classes are unintelligent. You assume that they study for hours for the tests. And you assume there is nothing going on in their lives that could be having adverse effects on their academic performance.

I actually went out of my way to help one of those students study for hours, and he failed three exams in a row despite his most earnest efforts. I did not do well my first year in college as well, and have worked hard and maintained a 3.8 the last three semesters to bring my GPA up. It is ridiculous to suggest that I said poor academic performance necessarily correlates with low intelligence. It is not at all "elitist or abrasive" to say a student who has never done well in science courses and abhors the subject should choose a career outside of dentistry (this is especially true when one considers that this person's reasons for choosing dentistry are almost entirely based on vanity). Don't get me wrong; I want to earn a lot of money and be respected by my patients and peers, but I also enjoy science and sculpture, and dentistry provides the paradigm coagulation of the aforementioned subjects.

Every single one of those assumptions could be wrong and your whole argument/question is off base. Furthermore, you are belittling those who have high aspirations, yet can't handle the coursework. Those that fail those classes, may go on to do great things and have other strengths that are not academic... there is no need to state they are unintelligent.

I didn't say they were unintelligent, but rather that they probably aren't intelligent enough to be competitive dental school applicants.

Or maybe you should read this thread, about a man's determination to be a dentist, despite failing classes and unbelievable hardships: http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=1023693 Is he unintelligent? Does he pass the threshold? By your small observations at your CC and the opinion you have stated here, you would define him as such.

And because I never said that poor academic performance necessarily indicates unsatisfactory intelligence, his story is not in any way in contradiction with what I've stated. I would actually recommend reading what I've typed rather than assuming I'm trying to say anyone who has done poorly at some point in school can't be a dentist or anything equivalent. Certainly, if a person has not done well in his or her first year or so but possesses the potential to improve his or her statistics and is passionate about dentistry, by all means I would encourage him or her to follow his or her dreams, and for that person, he or she will ultimately become a dentist.

By the way, I could not pass Algebra in middle school and no one from my high school would have thought that I would get into dental school. I was class clown and a video-game junky.

One of the 20th Century's greatest physicists Richard Feynman was once said to have an IQ of only 127. James Watson, who discovered the structure of DNA along with Francis Crick, was once said to have an IQ of 115. The young Albert Einstein was once said to be poor at math as a child. It's all ridiculous; these lies are promulgated by far leftists who loathe anything that disagree with their egalitarian ideologies. You may have struggled with algebra in middle school (just as an adult may struggle with calculus), but that does not provide any sort of valid analogy to the situation that I outlined nor mean that you're lacking in intelligence in anyway. Moreover, your belief that somehow these students will later develop the aptitude to handle the scientific coursework necessary for the rigors of dental school is extremely ill-founded; Lewis Terman's study of 1,528 gifted children found little fluctuation in overall intelligence from childhood to adulthood. The smart will remain smart, and the not quite so smart will remain not quiet so smart. One can learn, but that is difference from increasing intelligence.

 

[UCSFx2017]

One of the 20th Century's greatest physicists Richard Feynman was once said to have an IQ of only 127. James Watson, who discovered the structure of DNA along with Francis Crick, was once said to have an IQ of 115. The young Albert Einstein was once said to be poor at math as a child. It's all ridiculous; these lies are promulgated by far leftists who loathe anything that disagree with their egalitarian ideologies. You may have struggled with algebra in middle school (just as an adult may struggle with calculus), but that does not provide any sort of valid analogy to the situation that I outlined nor mean that you're lacking in intelligence in anyway.

Wrong, Albert Einstein mastered differential equation at age 16. Every minute fact in your pre-dental courses can be broken down to a simple [subject A] [verb] [object B]. In fact, the concepts are not that bad. It's just the amount of material and the number of hours required to memorize that material that scare people off. Dental school isn't conceptually harder than in undergrad.; it's just a lot more information given in a shorter period of time.

IQ's are irrelevant for the vast majority of people you'll meet. People with IQ's that may be problematic for succeeding in undergrad are about as rare as geniuses.

 

[Dgeorg6]

Bro can you just stop posting on this thread and let it die? It's the dumbest thread on this website right now and it's just a bunch of you bickering at each other over stupid **** while some how at the same time trying to have a dick measuring contest (or in y'alls case, a contest to see who can sound the smartest by using big words).


Just chill. Who cares if a kid from CC failed his classes. He was probably at a CC for a reason. It doesn't affect your life in anyway so who cares.

 

[UCSFx2017]

Moreover, your belief that somehow these students will later develop the aptitude to handle the scientific coursework necessary for the rigors of dental school is extremely ill-founded; Lewis Terman's study of 1,528 gifted children found little fluctuation in overall intelligence from childhood to adulthood. The smart will remain smart, and the not quite so smart will remain not quiet so smart. One can learn, but that is difference from increasing intelligence

Are you saying that I believe all children will ultimately be emotionally intelligent just by happenstance?

What I just provided you was non-causal literature proof that it is possible for children to become emotional intelligent by developing a disposition of (1) hope, (2) self-control, (3) self-efficacy, and (4) impulse-control. The most intelligent person in the world is nothing without these four qualities, which can be developed. The average and below-average Joe's can handle the coursework to get into dental school. It might take them more effort and time, but they can do it. I see one of my friends working out and attending all the social events during the weekend before our gross exam and he still gets higher grades than me. He's obviously more time-efficient, retains info a lot quicker, or has some cool method-of-loci or mnemonic technique that he's hiding from me.

 

[Frank22]

Wrong, Albert Einstein mastered differential equation at age 16. Every minute fact in your pre-dental courses can be broken down to a simple [subject A] [verb] [object B]. In fact, the concepts are not that bad. It's just the amount of material and the number of hours required to memorize that material that scare people off. Dental school isn't conceptually harder than in undergrad.; it's just a lot more information given in a shorter period of time.

Einstein was teaching himself differential and integral calculus at thirteen. The same applies to Feynman. I was pointing out the ridiculousness of these factoids, which aren't disseminated by myself, but individuals who live in a chimerical egalitarian world.

IQ's are irrelevant for the vast majority of people you'll meet. People with IQ's that may be problematic for succeeding in undergrad are about as rare as geniuses.

A person with a high IQ alone can never be a genius, but like dentistry, there is a minimum threshold of the g-factor necessary to produce a genius. The correlation between scholastic achievement and IQ is well authenticated and proven. The minimum IQ of individuals employed as mathematicians lies in the 85th percentile of Americans, and it is extremely unlikely if not impossible to find a person with an IQ of less than 115 holding a Ph.D. in mathematics.

 

[UCSFx2017]

A person with a high IQ alone can never be a genius, but like dentistry, there is a minimum threshold of the g-factor necessary to produce a genius. The correlation between scholastic achievement and IQ is well authenticated and proven. The minimum IQ of individuals employed as mathematicians lies in the 85th percentile of Americans, and it is extremely unlikely if not impossible to find a person with an IQ of less than 115 holding a Ph.D. in mathematics.

Math =/= dentistry.

Let's go back on topic where you deny my and everyone in the 3.0 thread's personal experiences.

 

[gn4]

Frank, so why do you think these people lack the intellectual capacity for dental school? are you basing this on the fact that they were failing bio classes in CC? I was failing a bio course one semester. I was just wise enough to drop the course before it counted. I just don't see how you can judge a person just from your interactions with them in class. You don't know their IQ scores or personal lives, yet you can assume that they don't have the intellectual capacity for dental school just because this person was failing some courses? I really want to understand how you come to that conclusion.


ps. What's with the big words? seems like you are trying to compensate for something. Is this how you will speak to your patients? can you please dumb it down for me? this here Arkansan didn't do no skoolin for these big master words.

 

[Frank22]

Math =/= dentistry.

Completely irrelevant and risible point; there is a minimum amount of g, or IQ, necessary to be a dentist, just as there is a minimum amount of g, or IQ, necessary to be a mathematician, or any other job or career for that matter. The g-factor for some fields is higher or lower than others, but that ignores the main point at hand that there is a necessary level of g for any given career, including that of a dentist.

Let's go back on topic where you deny my and everyone in the 3.0 thread's personal experiences.

I guess you might as well use fictitious ad hominids and red herrings when the evidence is so clear.

Frank, so why do you think these people lack the intellectual capacity for dental school? are you basing this on the fact that they were failing bio classes in CC?

Let's make one thing clear: I do not believe that these people are unintelligent because they failed a rudimentary science course at a CC. I believe that they're not intelligent enough to be competitive dental school applicants because they worked very hard but still failed a rudimentary science course at a CC. If one is already working very hard and still falling far too short, what else can one do?

ps. What's with the big words? seems like you are trying to compensate for something. Is this how you will speak to your patients? can you please dumb it down for me? this here Arkansan didn't do no skoolin for these big master words.

This is the most befuddling accusation I've come across on this thread; I'm simply typing in an educated manner and trying to convey my thoughts. If you feel that I'm using sesquipedalian terminology than I would encourage you to improve your vocabulary because the sort of language you will encounter in dental school is far more comprehensive and technical.

 

[gn4]

Math =/= dentistry.

.

I got a 16 on QR. I definitely won't be getting into dental school with these poor math skills

 

[UCSFx2017]

Completely irrelevant and risible point; there is a minimum amount of g, or IQ, necessary to be a dentist, just as there is a minimum amount of g, or IQ, necessary to be a mathematician, or any other job or career for that matter. The g-factor for some fields is higher or lower than others, but that ignores the main point at hand that there is a necessary level of g for any given career, including that of a dentist.



I guess you might as well use fictitious ad hominids and red herrings when the evidence is so clear.

Oh and I'm sure your sources are flawless. How exactly do you know these people you've met actually have below average IQ? Do you carry an IQ test around with you? Hey how outdated are IQ tests?

When did I attack your personal reputation to discredit an argument? Who brought up Albert Einstein and Math PhDs? This is a social science; you can't expect p-values < 0.01 like you can in real science.

 

[tbond5]

Completely irrelevant and risible point; there is a minimum amount of g, or IQ, necessary to be a dentist, just as there is a minimum amount of g, or IQ, necessary to be a mathematician, or any other job or career for that matter. The g-factor for some fields is higher or lower than others, but that ignores the main point at hand that there is a necessary level of g for any given career, including that of a dentist.



I guess you might as well use fictitious ad hominids and red herrings when the evidence is so clear.



Let's make one thing clear: I do not believe that these people are unintelligent because they failed a rudimentary science course at a CC. I believe that they're not intelligent enough to be competitive dental school applicants because they worked very hard but still failed a rudimentary science course at a CC. If one is already working very hard and still falling far too short, what else can one do?



This is the most befuddling accusation I've come across on this thread; I'm simply typing in an educated manner and trying to convey my thoughts. If you feel that I'm using sesquipedalian terminology than I would encourage you to improve your vocabulary because the sort of language you will encounter in dental school is far more comprehensive and technical.

Get off the high horse and use normal words. I sure hope your personal statement isn't filled with words like sesquipedalian. That's just being pompous and shows you have the ability to use a thesaurus. Congrats! Welcome to the Internet.

 

[Frank22]

Oh and I'm sure your sources are flawless. How exactly do you know these people you've met actually have below average IQ? Do you carry an IQ test around with you? Hey how outdated are IQ tests?

If you need to carry around an IQ test with you to know if someone is intelligent enough to succeed as a dentist, IQ tests would then be meaningless. You can tell if a given person is verbally intelligent by simply having a conversation with him or her; oratorical proficiency and an ability to convey ones thoughts effectively corresponds to a high verbal intelligence (high is a very relative term in intelligence, but you get the picture). As I've said numerous times, I believe that the fact that these students (or at least, a few of them) worked very hard but still fell far too short means that they probably won't be competitive dental school applicants. If the student does not work hard and doesn't do well, he or she may easily possess the aptitude to both become a dentist and succeed in the profession.

When did I attack your personal reputation to discredit an argument? Who brought up Albert Einstein and Math PhDs? This is a social science; you can't expect p-values < 0.01 like you can in real science.

I brought up mathematics and the those other subjects to demonstrate a point that is still valid for dentistry, and which for some reason still alludes you. Your claim that I'm ignoring all of the cases in the "under 3.0 thread" is simply untrue and looks to discredit my character and argumentation; I have done no such thing.

I got a 16 on QR. I definitely won't be getting into dental school with these poor math skills

Great way to completely miss the point.

Get off the high horse and use normal words. I sure hope your personal statement isn't filled with words like sesquipedalian. That's just being pompous and shows you have the ability to use a thesaurus. Congrats! Welcome to the Internet.

What a beautiful example of psychological insecurity; assume that I'm trying to put up a facade of superiority rather than a potential shortcoming you may have.

 

[UCSFx2017]

If you need to carry around an IQ test with you to know if someone is intelligent enough to succeed as a dentist, IQ tests would then be meaningless. You can tell if a given person is verbally intelligent by simply having a conversation with him or her; oratorical proficiency and an ability to convey ones thoughts effectively corresponds to a high verbal intelligence (high is a very relative term in intelligence, but you get the picture). As I've said numerous times, I believe that the fact that these students (or at least, a few of them) worked very hard but still fell far too short means that they probably won't be competitive dental school applicants. If the student does not work hard and doesn't do well, he or she may easily possess the aptitude to both become a dentist and succeed in the profession.



I brought up mathematics and the those other subjects to demonstrate a point that is still valid for dentistry, and which for some reason still alludes you. Your claim that I'm ignoring all of the cases in the "under 3.0 thread" is simply untrue and looks to discredit my character and argumentation; I have done no such thing.

lol...i'm out

thanks for the fun

 

[NMC2010]

I think I'd rather interact with patients on a more personal, understandable level than impress (or confuse) them with my "intellect." Then again, I probably have no idea what I'm talking about - my IQ is way too low for this thread.

Oh, and one more thing:

(Where's the don't feed the troll sign?)

 

[Frank22]

I think I'd rather interact with patients on a more personal, understandable level than impress (or confuse) them with my "intellect." Then again, I probably have no idea what I'm talking about - my IQ is way too low for this thread.

Oh, and one more thing:

(Where's the don't feed the troll sign?)

Good for you; how lame would you be if you tried to look like those snobby, arrogant, egotistical dentists who work so hard to try to look superior because they're so insecure about their limitations like myself. Good thing I have big words, like "sesquipedalian" to hide these insecurities behind. Patients don't want people who pretend to be smart as their dentist. They would rather have down-to-earth, "humble" doctors like yourself. Please, impress me more with your rustic charm.

 

[tbond5]

I think I'd rather interact with patients on a more personal, understandable level than impress (or confuse) them with my "intellect." Then again, I probably have no idea what I'm talking about - my IQ is way too low for this thread.

Oh, and one more thing:

(Where's the don't feed the troll sign?)

 

[Koalafied]

I actually went out of my way to help one of those students study for hours, and he failed three exams in a row despite his most earnest efforts. I did not do well my first year in college as well, and have worked hard and maintained a 3.8 the last three semesters to bring my GPA up. It is ridiculous to suggest that I said poor academic performance necessarily correlates with low intelligence. It is not at all "elitist or abrasive" to say a student who has never done well in science courses and abhors the subject should choose a career outside of dentistry (this is especially true when one considers that this person's reasons for choosing dentistry are almost entirely based on vanity). Don't get me wrong; I want to earn a lot of money and be respected by my patients and peers, but I also enjoy science and sculpture, and dentistry provides the paradigm coagulation of the aforementioned subjects.

I actually went out of my way to help hundreds of students and those students you describe study and learn for hours in "weed-out" classes on top of providing general life advice.

I didn't say they were unintelligent, but rather that they probably aren't intelligent enough to be competitive dental school applicants.

In the end, thus far, it was several of them who displaced me in the heated competition for a seat at my dear state schools. In my opinion, admissions to the TX ds is not much different than playing TX hold 'em. Am I bitter, jaded? Nope. I'm just excited, cheerful, and optimistic that I have a chance to, hopefully, be in that perfect institution next fall. Common sense: In general, you pay for what you get, really, honestly.

And because I never said that poor academic performance necessarily indicates unsatisfactory intelligence, his story is not in any way in contradiction with what I've stated. I would actually recommend reading what I've typed rather than assuming I'm trying to say anyone who has done poorly at some point in school can't be a dentist or anything equivalent. Certainly, if a person has not done well in his or her first year or so but possesses the potential to improve his or her statistics and is passionate about dentistry, by all means I would encourage him or her to follow his or her dreams, and for that person, he or she will ultimately become a dentist.

In light of intelligence, I'm sure my pre-med pals can give you some insight: http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=1026361

Einstein was teaching himself differential and integral calculus at thirteen. The same applies to Feynman. I was pointing out the ridiculousness of these factoids, which aren't disseminated by myself, but individuals who live in a chimerical egalitarian world.

Albert Einstein was also claimed to be have/share-symptoms-of ASD and dyslexia. Does that necessarily mean that he has ASD or dyslexia? Nope. Unless you're Albert Einstein himself, you'd never truly know.

For people with dyslexia:
Is possible to achieve/fulfill your dreams, your passion, your destiny despite such conditions? With a resounding Y-E-S, YES!!!

I definitely believe in these:
"Finns det en vilja finns det en väg"
"&#46907;&#51060; &#51080;&#45716; &#44275;&#50640; &#44600;&#51060; &#51080;&#45796;"

A person with a high IQ alone can never be a genius, but like dentistry, there is a minimum threshold of the g-factor necessary to produce a genius. The correlation between scholastic achievement and IQ is well authenticated and proven. The minimum IQ of individuals employed as mathematicians lies in the 85th percentile of Americans, and it is extremely unlikely if not impossible to find a person with an IQ of less than 115 holding a Ph.D. in mathematics.

Again, consult with my pre-med pals for insight. http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=1026361

You know, your behavior/attitude in this thread is NOT much different than this other pre-dent who happens to share similar views: http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=1029670

 

[Frank22]

I think we should all go back to what is important in life at this point, which is getting into dental school.

 

[tbond5]

Nah. Finding me a fine woman is most important at the moment. I'm done worrying about dental schools. Theres nothing I can do but wait for the interview invites.

 

[gn4]

Great way to completely miss the point.

I know. I just don't have the intellectual capacity to get into dental school.

 

[Frank22]

Nah. Finding me a fine woman is most important at the moment. I'm done worrying about dental schools. Theres nothing I can do but wait for the interview invites.

Your statistics seem fine and I'm sure you'll get in somewhere. Good luck.

 

[AlbinoPolarBear]

What an entertaining thread.

I'm looking forward to another stage in Frank's natural progression a few years from now when he enters a 4-year university, and calls those at CCs intellectually inferior.

 

[Frank22]

I'm looking forward to another stage in Frank's natural progression a few years from now when he enters a 4-year university, and calls those at CCs intellectually inferior.

I am and have been in a 4-year university.

 

[NMC2010]

Good for you; how lame would you be if you tried to look like those snobby, arrogant, egotistical dentists who work so hard to try to look superior because they're so insecure about their limitations like myself. Good thing I have big words, like "sesquipedalian" to hide these insecurities behind. Patients don't want people who pretend to be smart as their dentist. They would rather have down-to-earth, "humble" doctors like yourself. Please, impress me more with your rustic charm.

I realize you're mocking me (and getting rather defensive), but I'd still like to offer an opinion (also realize I never gave you any of those titles, but one might think those things by reading your responses... so be careful with your words). I think what you're failing to take away from our responses is that if you treat patients (or SDN users who could be fellow colleagues) in a denigrating manner, they're going to be driven away. You wouldn't be getting this kind of response if your replies sounded less judicial.

Truthfully, patients would rather have someone they can relate to than someone that is hard to communicate with. Yes, you obviously have to be skilled and have some degree of intelligence. However, as a dentist, if people can't talk to you, feeling more secure from your reassurance, they're less likely to follow up with you - even if you're the most skilled dentist around. They're way more likely to go to a good, not as skilled dentist who has better people skills and is more, "humble," as you put it.

Edit: Thanks for an epic pic Tbond, but unfortunately I have trouble following the advice 😛

I'm done here (I hope)!

 

[Frank22]

I realize you're mocking me (and getting rather defensive), but I'd still like to offer an opinion (also realize I never gave you any of those titles, but one might think those things by reading your responses... so be careful with your words). I think what you're failing to take away from our responses is that if you treat patients (or SDN users who could be fellow colleagues) in a denigrating manner, they're going to be driven away. You wouldn't be getting this kind of response if your replies sounded less judicial.

Truthfully, patients would rather have someone they can relate to than someone that is hard to communicate with. Yes, you obviously have to be skilled and have some degree of intelligence. However, as a dentist, if people can't talk to you, feeling more secure from your reassurance, they're less likely to follow up with you - even if you're the most skilled dentist around. They're way more likely to go to a good, not as skilled dentist who has better people skills and is more, "humble," as you put it.

Edit: Thanks for an epic pic Tbond, but unfortunately I have trouble following the advice 😛

I'm done here (I hope)!

Actually, I replied respectfully throughout this thread and apologized for any inadvertent degrading language. Had you shown more respect in your original post, my response would have been mutual. Don't be so quick to assume the other person is at fault; you initiated the disparagement, so you have no excuse for expecting a reply communicating anything different.

 

[yggdrasila]

Good for you; how lame would you be if you tried to look like those snobby, arrogant, egotistical dentists who work so hard to try to look superior because they're so insecure about their limitations like myself. Good thing I have big words, like "sesquipedalian" to hide these insecurities behind. Patients don't want people who pretend to be smart as their dentist. They would rather have down-to-earth, "humble" doctors like yourself. Please, impress me more with your rustic charm.

I'm feeling the sincerity. At least Frank22 knows his shortcomings. I wish others in this forum would be as self aware as him. 🙂 This would be good material for some of his secondaries or an interview response even.

 

[saintguitar]

Alright folks, I think there are two lessons to be learned here.

Number 1) Never be afraid to speak what is on your mind.

Number 2) Never be afraid to accept other people's ideas to make a better man out of you.

Now let's all go back to being anxious about interviews, acceptances, and rejections.

 

[Frank22]

Alright folks, I think there are two lessons to be learned here.

Number 1) Never be afraid to speak what is on your mind.

Number 2) Never be afraid to accept other people's ideas to make a better man out of you.

Now let's all go back to being anxious about interviews, acceptances, and rejections.

👍 👍 👍 👍 👍 👍 👍 👍

 

[MBlue16]

Alright folks, I think there are two lessons to be learned here.

Number 1) Never be afraid to speak what is on your mind.

Number 2) Never be afraid to accept other people's ideas to make a better man out of you.

Now let's all go back to being anxious about interviews, acceptances, and rejections.

^This

 

[Ferneezy]

thanks to this thread i'm profoundly sensitive of my personal "g" status. i've decided to start rocking fat gold chains and will continue to do so throughout my interviews.

can anyone let me know if i do grillz once i get my license if that will make me a real "G"?

 

[Koalafied]

Alright folks, I think there are two lessons to be learned here.

Number 1) Never be afraid to speak what is on your mind.

Number 2) Never be afraid to accept other people's ideas to make a better man out of you.

Now let's all go back to being anxious chill about interviews, acceptances, and rejections/non-acceptance.

Fixed it.

👍

For an avatar like that, you'd be committing blaspheme if you didn't agree.

thanks to this thread i'm profoundly sensitive of my personal "g" status. i've decided to start rocking fat gold chains and will continue to do so throughout my interviews.

can anyone let me know if i do grillz once i get my license if that will make me a real "G"?

Berb, you alright there?🙂

 

[Ferneezy]

I have no idea what berb means!

That settles it...I'm low g.

 

[saintguitar]

For an avatar like that, you'd be committing blaspheme if you didn't agree.

👍

 

[Luna724]

This is by far the most entertaining thread to follow.

 

[yggdrasila]

Excuse me what is a g. The only thing that comes to mind is a goatherd 😕😕

 

[Frank22]

Excuse me what is a g. The only thing that comes to mind is a goatherd 😕😕

There are a number of factors frequently associated with intelligence; verbal comprehension, perceptual reasoning, processing speed, working memory, and the like. All of these factors are correlated to two other factors; crystallized intelligence and fluid intelligence. It turns out that these two factors are correlated as well to a single factor, called general intelligence or "g" for short by psychologists. The goal of any IQ test is to estimate a person's level of g; if you would like to learn more, I would recommend The g Factor, by Dr. Arthur Jensen.