Would being a stripper prevent me from getting into med school?

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Hi guys. This is a serious question. Long time lurker on these forums. I have competitive stats, but I need money. I've been offered jobs at bars and strip clubs (not prostitution, literally just dancing and/or selling shots/drinks).

I am hesitant to take any of these offers, because I'm not sure if this can come back to haunt me during med school applications or while in med school.

Would this ever be an issue?

Is there anyone out there who stripped before med school?

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As long as you don't do anything that might end up on a certiphi background check, it should be fine
 
Do you really want to be working these kinds of jobs? If you like stripping and selling drinks, then I don't see why not. But if it's just about money, there's got to be other jobs out there for you.
 
Do you really want to be working these kinds of jobs? If you like stripping and selling drinks, then I don't see why not. But if it's just about money, there's got to be other jobs out there for you.

To be honest. I have sold shots in my bikini at a bar before, but stripping would be a little different. It can be a lot of fun, if you enjoy attention. I do personally enjoy the attention and the money is crazy stupid. Guys are going to be perverted whether I have clothes on or not, so catcalling doesn't really bother me.
 
Probably nothing that'll make as much money, though.
yeah, have you all looked at sugar daddy sites ever? my friend showed me the website she used to land gigs and damn, she made some serious money. all she had to do was keep an old guy company for a day and be his date for lunch and dinner. there's obviously a big risk involved with travelling to a different city to meet a stranger who would pay for a sugar baby (my friend did only a few gigs and decided to delete her account and stop) but the pay is absolutely insane.
 
Keep it on the DL; make yourself unrecognizable with costume / makeup / whatever when compared to everyday wear in case some schmuck takes pics.
if you haven't yet....and you are thinking about med school, starting would make you an idiot.

Right or wrong, too many people have issue with it and medicine takes decorum and reputation seriously
Why does this make them an idiot? If it is done discreetly and kept out of the general public's eye, there is no harm no foul. It's not prostitution.
I know a handful of men who did this to pay college tuition and ultimately went into healthcare and business with a nice chunk of money under their belts. Are they also idiots?
 
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To be honest. I have sold shots in my bikini at a bar before, but stripping would be a little different. It can be a lot of fun, if you enjoy attention. I do personally enjoy the attention and the money is crazy stupid. Guys are going to be perverted whether I have clothes on or not, so catcalling doesn't really bother me.

if you've got the street smarts to handle yourself (strip clubs and those involved can be pretty exploitive and risky) and you can keep all this info under wraps then i personally don't see any issue with it. but that job you had at the bar sounds like it was a sweet deal. what made you leave? if youre not comfortable with stripping, then finding something like that bartender job might work too
 
Ill be someones date for good money! although i dont think id be there type lol. But in seriousness, i could see it as both ways. Yes its good money and should be able to keep it on the DL long as nothing crazy happens, BUT say something does happen it could seriously bite you in the butt.

Could you make enough money just selling shots in bikini as your doing now so you wouldnt feel the need to strip?
 
Why does this make them an idiot? If it is done discreetly and kept out of the general public's eye, there is no harm no foul. It's not prostitution.
I know a handful of men who did this to pay college tuition and ultimately went into healthcare and business with a nice chunk of money under their belts. Are they also idiots?
Risking the chance of sabotaging a career in medicine over a few years stripping would absolutely make someone an idiot.....
 
To be honest. I have sold shots in my bikini at a bar before, but stripping would be a little different. It can be a lot of fun, if you enjoy attention. I do personally enjoy the attention and the money is crazy stupid. Guys are going to be perverted whether I have clothes on or not, so catcalling doesn't really bother me.

Well, it sounds like my ultimate nightmare. But to each her own! Good luck!
 
There was a somewhat similar thread about this several months ago where apparently someone who was involved in pornography in a not so insignificant way was wondering how to go about this. Lizzy M seemed to suggest leaving it off your app might be the best way to go about it. Gonnif countered that this type of stuff is a thing that schools can google and discover about somebody and it would leave a really bad taste to uncover this about somebody that they intentionally left off.

Not exactly the same situation, in this case I'm not sure how anybody would know unless you listed it on your app, but food for thought. The one thought that will go through anybody's mind is there are MANY females who aren't as well off financially as they would hope who apply to medical school every year; most don't resort to these kind of measures to make money. What does it say about you that it you do resort to this? I have no idea and I'm not going to answer it or try to answer it for other people and I'm not going to judge somebody for partaking in something like this, but that is the obvious first question that is going to come across just about anybody's mind who finds out about this along your path to being a physician; be it an ADCOM, be it a residency director, be it an attending who you need a LOR from, be it a medical school professor, be it colleagues etc.

And you say you will only do this type of thing now before medical school, but there are many who will ask the question in response to that, if you are willing to do something like this now, what will prevent you from doing something like this later which some might object due to questionable ethics later on in life when the stakes, stress and pressure is far greater? Again I don't have answers to these questions nor will I pretend to say I know how others who matter will answer them, but these are just two of many relevant questions to ponder
 
Why would this come back to haunt you? Outside somebody on the admissions committee coming to pay you a visit (and maybe for a lap dance?), I'm not sure how this could backfire. Unless you were considering putting this on your app, in which case I would NOT.
 
Being a bartender?
Fine. Even if it's a strip joint. Although it's a toss up, often if they are willing to hire you to sell drinks rather than dance, there's a reason and you won't have to worry about pressure from management to dance. On the other hand, that could very well lead to some intense pressure to dance. Depends.

Yes, you can absolutely get away with it. But there's rules of thumb: better not to dance in a city where there is a medical school or one close by. Plenty of docs and med students and probably even adcom go on occasion. You also never want to run into a patient that knows you from that. A lot of girls consider wigs (I would say a must for you) and costumes that hide identifiable tattoos that are difficult to hide in day to day life (I knew someone who made a point to try to hide their biceps tattoo since that was something she didn't want to cover up in college classes.) Always use a fake name, duh. Most places will photocopy your driver's license for their own record and defense, but I wouldn't recommend dancing in states where you are required to be on a state registered list. Don't ever give out your real phone number. You will be asked 20x a shift.

Speaking of which, you need to be very careful that you don't get caught up in the "lifestyle." Coke and marijuana and any other drugs, after hours parties. Getting involved in bachelor's parties, those always involve "more" even if that's toys or fooling around with another girl. Only go to clean places, some places the other girls are doing prostitution and even if you're not, you could still be involved in a sting taking place in the same private dance area. As far as clean, some places have issues with IVDU and the last thing you want is to get poked by one in the bathroom or girl's locker area. Speaking of which, you also need to be very careful about your stuff being stolen, or the other girls finding out your real identity because cattiness abounds and they may try to out you. Also, careful with lap dances as I knew a girl who felt something go crunch in someone's pocket, they weren't poked thank God but the guy had a glass syringe. You will be offered some sort of drugs almost every shift. Don't pick up smoking cigs.

Be cognizant of any pics being taken with smartphones, a lot of people will also ask you to do private photos, like almost every shift, DON'T.

You will have to drink if you are over 21. As far as the club is concerned, your job is to sell drinks. Anyone buying you a drink will want to watch you drink some of it. You can sneak to the bathroom and discreetly dump some of it the sink/toilet. Which brings me to being very careful about drinking and driving. Cab can be expensive depending how much money you pull in. Anyway, you will end up drinking lots on shift. Someone will try to follow you home, and be very careful about your drinks being drugged.

With the hours and drinking, you will have to be very careful it doesn't effect your grades, and that you are still school full time, job/research part time, all the extracurriculars, that you're still pulling 60-80 hr work weeks on paper for adcom in addition to your dancing shifts. Some girls are really good about studying in the dressing room, but don't count on it. One, it's a way to make enemies at the club, two it's a way to be outed by the other girls, three you'll be missing time off stage when you need to be hustling for private dances (that is where you really make your money), four you need to be selling drinks (getting guys to buy them for you or management will be unhappy cut/change your shifts to ****), five you'll likely be too tipsy/distracted anyway.

You WILL be assaulted in some fashion. A good place the bouncer will bounce someone, but they can't prevent the inappropriate grab/touch, only react after. Be sure to review state laws on what is permissible as far as how close you dance what you wear etc, a good club will enforce rules but they always bend them so you have to know for sure.

Don't underestimate what dancing can do to your self esteem and psychology. It can make you feel attractive, but also a whole host of other yucky feelings.

To make money dancing is more than just getting up on the pole. Also, keep track of your money and see if it's really worth it.

Someone said you are currently selling pics? Big NO NO. The escort thing? Don't even think about it. That could go so wrong so fast you have no idea. Search "how to be an escort" and hopefully that will dissaude you. You will always he asked to do more than the date. Always. Even the escorts who claimed not to have been assualted at any point all have stories of things getting scary at some point.

Say it again, STOP selling pics. They will end up on the internet 99% guaranteed. In fact, a lot of the pics you see online on websites were the result of computer viruses stealing them off a computer to use for free in adverts.

There are tales of girls who did Playboy or other modeling, sex work, or stripping, it coming out somehow, and being kicked out of med school. Not for doing it during, but before. Moral turpitude is what they say. I read on one instance where the girl sued and got back in, but that isn't a guaranteed and Lord knows what the notoriety did for her career long term. Don't escort.

There are a lot of caveats to whether or not you can get away with it. You can be caught and you can be destroyed over this. You could get away with it. You'll have to be very very smart.

And don't put anything besides bartender on your app. NO. Hiding it or not hiding dancing will not do anything good for you, it can only hurt you for this to be found out, so don't offer info that can only hurt you. They will either understand why you left it off and/or hate you, or you tell and they will hate you. If they know this before acceptance, they will not accept you to begin with. Plenty of other applicants to choose from who never did this. If they accept you then find out, it might destroy you, but more likely they will keep you, but they won't like it and might still kick you out, or wait and come up with a reason you can't win a suit over.

And no, you don't have to tell the adcom every ****ing detail of your life. But you also need to make sure there aren't gaps on your app you can't easily account for.
 
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So many bluenoses! As long as it is legal, what's the big deal? You really can't be cited for moral turpitude if you are engaging in a legal activity. Escorts and sex workers are a different story in most jurisdictions.

If anyone on an adcom recognizes you at an interview as someone they've seen at the Bada Bing! (Sopranos reference) it would because they were there! Okay, who on the adcom is going to out themselves as a strip club patron? And if they are a patron, they might just appreciate having some nice dancers in the incoming class (diversity and all that).

Dance but don't do anything illegal. And it need not go in the experience section of your application or on your CV.
 
With a lot of these jobs, as long as it isn't on your resume, it never happened. Make sure you always use a stage name, and never let anyone know your identity.

I've been to strip clubs for bachelor parties and birthday parties. I have made small talk with the strippers, and a couple told me that they commuted to their jobs from a great distance. One told me she was in nursing school, and actually had a couple of the doctors come in to the club! Talk about awkward! Don't be the latter. If you are working, make sure that it is a good distance away from where you live, so you can be discreet and no one will recognize you.

Also, if someone did actually recognize you, I doubt they would ever approach you and ask you if you are a stripper. They might just think you look oddly familiar.
 
I live in Vegas right next to a strip club where I met a nice pre-med girl. She even gave me a free dance.
 
I'm not saying don't do it, but anyone that can't imagine how this would come out is very very very dense.

People love to talk. Make no mistake that a guy, even a doc on adcom, saying he went to a strip club will in no way be taken in the same light as of you having worked in one. Someone on adcom could also come up with anything else to tank your app.

You need to make sure you keep this secret.

I know girls who were seen by their old high school friends, college professors, boyfriend's friends, college classmates, and on and on. Word spreading to neighbors. Friends opening their mouths. Parents finding out.

Never underestimate people spilling beans or enemies or vengeance.

Someone, anyone, could make a point of posting this about you online so it gets googled. Facebook. Emailing anyone. Emailing every med school in the US.

Yes it's legal. Yes I don't see a problem with it personally. Yes you will be judged very harshly by some for this.
 
This can come out at any point, people can recognize you years later.

Also this might be something you never tell a romantic partner about, or something you do, and some guys will be OK with it, and some never will be, whether you're upfront about it or not.
 
To be honest. I have sold shots in my bikini at a bar before, but stripping would be a little different. It can be a lot of fun, if you enjoy attention. I do personally enjoy the attention and the money is crazy stupid. Guys are going to be perverted whether I have clothes on or not, so catcalling doesn't really bother me.

You are going to have to PM me those shots so I can scientifically analyze them and inform you whether or not you should apply.

So many bluenoses! As long as it is legal, what's the big deal? You really can't be cited for moral turpitude if you are engaging in a legal activity. Escorts and sex workers are a different story in most jurisdictions.

If anyone on an adcom recognizes you at an interview as someone they've seen at the Bada Bing! (Sopranos reference) it would because they were there! Okay, who on the adcom is going to out themselves as a strip club patron? And if they are a patron, they might just appreciate having some nice dancers in the incoming class (diversity and all that).

Dance but don't do anything illegal. And it need not go in the experience section of your application or on your CV.

Finally, a reasonable post. Muh strict professional ethics.
 
Yea, um, I think there will be times that you will be asked to do more than just dance, strip, and serve booze. Also, what Crayola said about how it can totally affect your head and self-esteem--allowing yourself to be objectified in such a way. I firmly believe it's unhealthy on a number of levels. I am certain my opinion will get a few sneers, but that doesn't mean it is utterly w/o merit. And basically, it's just a seedy environment, and things also have a way of coming out, even if you do your best to be discreet. Time and opportunity pulls things out in the wash, so to speak.
 
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Because OP should worry what some Joe(or Jane)-schmo thinks about their past, legal endeavors for monetary gain.. :smack:
 
Didn't realize how many prude goody tow shoes SDNers there are. Relax a bit

Prudes or just sound users of common sense and some realistic wisdom? The person, if genuine and not a troll (I can see some trollish guy sitting on the Internet making this up and posting it for kicks.) is going to do what s/he wants to do anyway. Consequences of all sorts can be a b!tch.

Has this thread exploded already @NotASerialKiller?
 
OMG you guys are so wrong on that

So so so naive

My posts were more than reasonable. They were accurate and informative.


Yes, the one thing worse than men endorsing the objectification of women is when women endorse it. But sure. I'm a prude. 🙄
Meanwhile, how many of you would be OK with your daughters doing this? Dear Lord, the possible answers are probably going to scare me; but I will anticipate that most of them are utter BS.
 
Here's why you don't want to go that route. Strip bars attract unsavory characters. Unsavory characters attract police. Pretty soon the place gets raided for drugs and solicitation and nobody is buying that you were just dancing or selling shots -- you get an arrest like everyone else on the premises. Or you realize that the $300 in tips you get dancing or selling drinks could be tripled if you do a bit more, and one thing leads to another and pretty soon you're a prostitute with a baby daddy and a coke habit. Or third, you keep it clean, but some colleague, patient or ex finds out about your history and blabs, and it ruins some career prospects. Google "former stripper" and "fired" and you'll find lots of people who lost jobs over their past indiscretions. And most weren't even in fields with as much focus on professionalism.
 
Here's why you don't want to go that route. Strip bars attract unsavory characters. Unsavory characters attract police. Pretty soon the place gets raided for drugs and solicitation and nobody is buying that you were just dancing or selling shots -- you get an arrest like everyone else on the premises. Or you realize that the $300 in tips you get dancing or selling drinks could be tripled if you do a bit more, and one thing leads to another and pretty soon you're a prostitute with a baby daddy and a coke habit. Or third, you keep it clean, but some colleague, patient or ex finds out about your history and blabs, and it ruins some career prospects. Google "former stripper" and "fired" and you'll find lots of people who lost jobs over their past indiscretions. And most weren't even in fields with as much focus on professionalism.

Can't tell if joke or not... I mean the 2nd one has to be right?
 
I can't wait for this thread to explode. :corny:

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Here's why you don't want to go that route. Strip bars attract unsavory characters. Unsavory characters attract police. Pretty soon the place gets raided for drugs and solicitation and nobody is buying that you were just dancing or selling shots -- you get an arrest like everyone else on the premises. Or you realize that the $300 in tips you get dancing or selling drinks could be tripled if you do a bit more, and one thing leads to another and pretty soon you're a prostitute with a baby daddy and a coke habit. Or third, you keep it clean, but some colleague, patient or ex finds out about your history and blabs, and it ruins some career prospects. Google "former stripper" and "fired" and you'll find lots of people who lost jobs over their past indiscretions. And most weren't even in fields with as much focus on professionalism.
So many bluenoses! As long as it is legal, what's the big deal? You really can't be cited for moral turpitude if you are engaging in a legal activity. Escorts and sex workers are a different story in most jurisdictions.

If anyone on an adcom recognizes you at an interview as someone they've seen at the Bada Bing! (Sopranos reference) it would because they were there! Okay, who on the adcom is going to out themselves as a strip club patron? And if they are a patron, they might just appreciate having some nice dancers in the incoming class (diversity and all that).

Dance but don't do anything illegal. And it need not go in the experience section of your application or on your CV.

So... basically, have fun but don't mark it down in your app?
 
All three have happened. But I didn't list them in the order of likeliness.

The third one is reasonable, the first one I don't know anything about the US legal system so I'll trust someone named Law2Doc, but the second one? Don't be a stripper because other people have stripped and then turned tricks and then started doing cocaine and then got pregnant? Really? Somehow that argument seems a bit less sound than the others...
 
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Bear in mind that getting into med school is less important than how this can impact your career. Schools may shrug off anything "legal", although I don't think Lizzy is speaking for most schools on this topic, frankly. Employers are going to have to be comfortable with how this might look to their patients, reflect on their organization, etc.
 
Hi guys. This is a serious question. Long time lurker on these forums. I have competitive stats, but I need money. I've been offered jobs at bars and strip clubs (not prostitution, literally just dancing and/or selling shots/drinks).

I am hesitant to take any of these offers, because I'm not sure if this can come back to haunt me during med school applications or while in med school.

Would this ever be an issue?

Is there anyone out there who stripped before med school?

Like previous posts, don't include it in application..
 
Yes, a lot of hospitals have gone to testing for cotinine. So, if hospitals don't want people that smoke--if positive for cotinine, no job offer--do you think engaging in high-risk "professions" will be seen as desirable as well? There is more and more emphasis on healthcare personnel being seen as healthy examples to the GP.
 
The third one is reasonable, the first one I don't know anything about the US legal system so I'll trust someone named Law2Doc, but the second one? Don't be a stripper because other people have stripped and then turned tricks and then started doing cocaine and then got pregnant? Really? Somehow that argument seems a bit less sound than the others...

What percentage of strippers go on to have prostitution careers and drug habits as compared to going on to higher education? Theres a pretty natural progression down certain roads, statistically. The stripper who is just doing it to pay for school is mostly a story for the customers who want to pretend it's less seemly, not an actual viable career option.
 
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