WW Child's Play; a noob game

[swiniazycie]

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Good game guys!


haha thannnkkks. I was so sure you were the wolf until you said the thing about your mentor and I was like, oh that makes sense. Sorry I went to you next, swini!

As soon as you attacked me I was like "great. Maybe it's Stb and keetone and they're covering each other. We lost."

 

[swiniazycie]

And I really was hoping I could try to revive you! Swini and her meddlesome horn! 😉

Too much was happening. I needed a night where nothing happened!!

 

[Trilt]

Looking back, I am less sure of who Trilt is... in fact I've noticed some post inconsistencies...





Sounds like at first they were trying to push "modern" stories under the bus... then later claimed to be from a modern story.

Thoughts anyone? @Trilt want to clarify??

I'm still thinking of various events from the game, so I want to add:

You thinking this was suspicious made me SO FRUSTRATED, because my repertoire of characters to pick from was much more limited because of that offhand comment I had made right at the beginning of the game. I needed to be male, and I wanted to be naughty so that if someone else had my character, PP could naughty kill them overnight. I actually really wanted to use Artemis Fowl, but couldn't because of this! So when I almost got called out for it even when picking a character that I thought was consistent, I was all:

 

[WildZoo]

I think it's more fun when they don't. They get to figure all the things out for themselves .... maybe they think of a different way to approach something .... reading the game threads just brings them up to speed too quickly. 🙂

You mean maybe keeps them from being lynched on sight? 😉

I can see your point. But I also enjoyed reading the threads.

 

[KCgophervet]

I'm still thinking of various events from the game, so I want to add:

You thinking this was suspicious made me SO FRUSTRATED, because my repertoire of characters to pick from was much more limited because of that offhand comment I had made right at the beginning of the game. I needed to be male, and I wanted to be naughty so that if someone else had my character, PP could naughty kill them overnight. I actually really wanted to use Artemis Fowl, but couldn't because of this! So when I almost got called out for it even when picking a character that I thought was consistent, I was all:

I'm glad this frustrated you. I felt damn clever for picking up on that and then i felt silly when you had a seemingly logical justification 😛

 

[Filly Bay]

As soon as you attacked me I was like "great. Maybe it's Stb and keetone and they're covering each other. We lost."

haha nope! After I let hazel convince me she was not the wolf I was looking for wolfy-ness where ever I could find it! I almost posted that Either you were the wolf or Hazel was chaos but then the lynch closed early.

 

[hazelmoo]

haha nope! After I let hazel convince me she was not the wolf I was looking for wolfy-ness where ever I could find it! I almost posted that Either you were the wolf or Hazel was chaos but then the lynch closed early.

If I literally wasn't turned in to a wolf on Tuesday, I think it would have been much harder to convince you of my innocence.

 

[hazelmoo]

The first gif MJ sent to me...

Couldn't be more true.

I wactched the movie Hook last night as a memorial for you and @PrincessButterCup.

 

[Trilt]

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🙁

 

[finnickthedog]

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🙁

ME TOO

My plans were shattered by wind + rain

 

[Lupin21]

Just wanted to say thanks to the noobs for playing enthusiastically. Made the game fun. I had originally been gearing this towards a more veteran player list, but you guys did well for the most part... Lots of strategy stuff you will learn should you continue playing.

I also wanted to reiterate what dy said earlier in the game. These can be very addicting, but you cannot ever let it take precedence over your schoolwork. There are a couple people on the forum that could probably say a thing or two about that.

Also, please take some of the things that happened behind the scenes and on the thread as an opportunity to grow. You must learn rules and take criticism in a more open fashion. It has been said many times here that 99.9% of the time, things are said in an effort to help, not belittle. While the advice does not have to be taken, it behooves you to think about what was said to you, whether it came off gruff or not. Try to look at it like you are in a new job, and some experienced co-workers or senior associates are trying to get you up to speed so you can be great. One day you are the noob, and before you know it life makes you the mentor. Perhaps you will understand these words at that point, but if you can, learn early that the more you take in as others give input on the way you are doing things, the faster you learn.

Most of us are constantly learning new things, especially in a medical field, so I believe that bit above to be very important.

Anywho, do with that as you will as well. Hope you guys had a blast and I look forward to playing with you and/or killing you in the near future. 🙂

 

[hazelmoo]

 

[LadyOtheFarm]

Alright, I was moving a farm over the last 3 days, so I finally caught up. For those who are looking for a reason to talk more, I present:

my 2 cents

It drove me crazy to stay out of things since I was killed so early. I knew who the wolves were from reading through the second time that night (well 2 of you... the 3rd I wasn't sure of until a few days past) and it drove me nuts that pp9 lived so long after I warned everyone about her. I thought I was sooo obvious. I tried to use the easiest reason instead of the subtle hints and while Kam got it, nobody else seemed to care.

I apologize for being one of the talking dead. I had started reading some of the old games, but somehow I didn't even think it would be possible to come back into the game and my husband just didn't care what all these great people on line were doing... not an excuse. I was dumb. I sent Lupin21 my version of "The Deadie Promise" after other dead kept posting on the main page and then kept out of it. I wanted to post so many times, but even if it was just cheering, there were times I was afraid that someone would decide it related to the post ahead of it or ... whatever. I tried to be very careful to only like things that had little to nothing to do with the game. There were definitely times I was jumping up and down and yelling at my phone just wishing you guys could hear me. My kids think I'm crazy now. Thanks guys! My goat got milked with one hand a few mornings too because I could not put the phone down. We'll at least until I splashed the phone with milk and it freaked out. 🙄

I loved getting to know you guys! Thank you mods and mentors! I was just thinking that I was going to have to see if I could jump in on one of these games while following along on the grumpy old men thread and BOOM, there was one custom made for me! @Lupin21 and @StartingoverVet thank you for that timing and a masterful job! All love to the mods! (I still think there ought to be a way for the early dead to win... give me a few games and I'll figure one out! Or maybe just, if you can name who killed you before any wolves have been named, you get to come back to life like an eyes in the back of your head rule...)

Anyway, thank you all for the entertainment! Let's play again soon!

 

[hazelmoo]

I miss you guys and our child's play 🙁

 

[katashark]

I miss you guys and our child's play 🙁

I miss it too. I feel like I have friends on SDN now. 🙂

 

[hazelmoo]

I miss it too. I feel like I have friends on SDN now. 🙂

Me too! And I'm addicted to SDN now... Lol. Still compulsively checking it every 30 minutes or so!

 

[Mad Jack]

I feel like I should put together a noob game for you guys next week, because seriously, you guys need another chance to show what you're made of and to bond and make friends. We had three noob games for my batch, and it is 100000% why I'm a regular poster on SDN now.

Let me see what I can do... I can start writing Saturday for a basic game. Let me see if I can come up with a decent theme by then.

 

[LadyOtheFarm]

I feel like I should put together a noob game for you guys next week, because seriously, you guys need another chance to show what you're made of and to bond and make friends. We had three noob games for my batch, and it is 100000% why I'm a regular poster on SDN now.

Let me see what I can do... I can start writing Saturday for a basic game. Let me see if I can come up with a decent theme by then.

I need to like that post 1000 times more! That would be awesome!

 

[hazelmoo]

I feel like I should put together a noob game for you guys next week, because seriously, you guys need another chance to show what you're made of and to bond and make friends. We had three noob games for my batch, and it is 100000% why I'm a regular poster on SDN now.

Let me see what I can do... I can start writing Saturday for a basic game. Let me see if I can come up with a decent theme by then.

😍😍😍

 

[LadyOtheFarm]

80s and 90s kid and teen TV shows: Saved by the Bell, strawberry shortcake, punky brewster, care bears, gummy bears, fraggle rock, ...

 

[hazelmoo]

I'm still mad that I missed the Neopets one...

Has there been a pokemon one??

 

[Mad Jack]

Actually, I think I might use a theme I was experimenting with a while back for a noob game. It's a more... Interesting concept. We'll see.

 

[DVMDream]

Seriously, no more noob games. The real learning doesn't happen until they are swimming with the big kids.

I'm sick of breaking noobs out of bad habits. Create a game, allow all to play. No more hand holding the noobs.

 

[LadyOtheFarm]

 

[Mad Jack]

Seriously, no more noob games. The real learning doesn't happen until they are swimming with the big kids.

I'm sick of breaking noobs out of bad habits. Create a game, allow all to play. No more hand holding the noobs.

I just want them to bond like my group of noobs did. Those games made some srs BFFs forever out of us. This isn't about WW, this is about building community.

 

[DVMDream]

I just want them to bond like my group of noobs did. Those games made some srs BFFs forever out of us. This isn't about WW, this is about building community.

Then build it with everyone.

 

[LadyOtheFarm]

I'm all for more games of any kind. But I do get the impression that the first several mixed games will need this warning sign:

 

[Mad Jack]

I'm all for more games of any kind. But I do get the impression that the first several mixed games will need this warning sign:

Yeah, that's why I wanted to give you guys a few games to bond and get hooked. Because if I'd just jumped into WW with the semi-pros, I'd probably have quit. You need those first few memorable experiences and people to keep you coming back. Getting lynched time and time again doesn't do that.

 

[pp9]

I just can't imagine playing as a villager now. You all must have had some serious anxiety over who the wolves were haha

 

[Devastating]

The noob game was such a learning experience for everyone, I'm sure a second one would be our chance to get one more practice-run within our skill level, without being hampered so much by our previous mistakes and nooby-gameplay (now that we have learned better). Then we could be good to run with the big dogs on our 3rd game 😉

 

[Kam325]

 

[hazelmoo]

Yeah, that's why I wanted to give you guys a few games to bond and get hooked. Because if I'd just jumped into WW with the semi-pros, I'd probably have quit. You need those first few memorable experiences and people to keep you coming back. Getting lynched time and time again doesn't do that.

I know, I feel so bad for @katashark and @alohacat319 who got killed on the first night.. And whoever we lynched for being inactive!

 

[Kam325]

elect MJ, glorious leader, eternal Sun of the Noob Nation

 

[hazelmoo]

https://media.giphy.com/media/tzmPgXtfEzthC/giphy.gif

I feel like this accurately represents our first game.

 

[LadyOtheFarm]

I know, I feel so bad for @katashark and @alohacat319 who got killed on the first night.. And whoever we lynched for being inactive!

And me!

 

[alohacat319]

I know, I feel so bad for @katashark and @alohacat319 who got killed on the first night.. And whoever we lynched for being inactive!

I think it would be fun to play again as noobs. (Mostly because I got basically no practice the first game). Plus it would give us a chance to learn about other roles since some people who were wolves will likely be villagers etc. I'm all for playing with the big kids, but I have to admit, dying early isn't all that much fun and if that were to happen over and over again, I can see why it would be a bit defeating. Just two cents worth. 🙂

 

[alohacat319]

Plus it is fun getting to know the other noobs and making friends like all the pros have done. I definitely feel like I am in a bit more of a community, even though people didn't really get to know me since I could only really stalk 😏 after the first two days. Seeing people I recognize on other threads makes it a lot more enjoyable being on SDN.


Edit- And it would provide perfect distraction from my seven week intro to Islam gen ed that starts this week.

no offense intended to anyone who is Islamic, religious studies just aren't my favorite.

 

[hazelmoo]

And me!

YES!!

 

[SummerTheLynx]

Actually, I think I might use a theme I was experimenting with a while back for a noob game. It's a more... Interesting concept. We'll see.

I've had a couple of cool mechanics I wanted to get out there, just no time to run a game. Let me know if you need any help with ideas

 

[Trilt]

I joked about having a noob game 2.0 in the wolf thread last week, not realizing that multiple noob games was more the norm than not.

I don't really understand the vehement negative response from some people - noobs are going to make noob mistakes (and apparently just be killed first anyway - yeah, that really makes me want to play with you guys!) no matter when we start, so I really can't see a second noob run as something negative.

 

[DVMDream]

The noob game was such a learning experience for everyone, I'm sure a second one would be our chance to get one more practice-run within our skill level, without being hampered so much by our previous mistakes and nooby-gameplay (now that we have learned better). Then we could be good to run with the big dogs on our 3rd game 😉

You guys will still make the same mistakes and new ones. Then when you do go to play with us the mistakes won't be seen as such and you'll be adamant you know what you are doing. And that is what gets noobs killed off early and repeatedly.

That's why I say no more. All it does is instill bad game play deep in.

Remember, there usually aren't mentors the second game around too.

I honestly don't even like initial noob games. Heck, we all signed up with veteran players our first games. I died many a times early, and still do sometimes. It is part of the game. Someone unfortunately has to be the first lynched or first killed. Nothing will change that.

Time to put in the big kid panties and play, so you can actually really learn how to play the game.

And this isn't just directed at you, your post was just the first in a long line of posts this applies to.

And the BS of "bonding". Do you really think many of the veterans are going anywhere anytime soon? Why only choose to "bond" with a small, select group? Why not "bond" with everyone? What's the purpose of limiting that?

 

[Mad Jack]

You guys will still make the same mistakes and new ones. Then when you do go to play with us the mistakes won't be seen as such and you'll be adamant you know what you are doing. And that is what gets noobs killed off early and repeatedly.

That's why I say no more. All it does is instill bad game play deep in.

Remember, there usually aren't mentors the second game around too.

I honestly don't even like initial noob games. Heck, we all signed up with veteran players our first games. I died many a times early, and still do sometimes. It is part of the game. Someone unfortunately has to be the first lynched or first killed. Nothing will change that.

Time to put in the big kid panties and play, so you can actually really learn how to play the game.

And this isn't just directed at you, your post was just the first in a long line of posts this applies to.

And the BS of "bonding". Do you really think many of the veterans are going anywhere anytime soon? Why only choose to "bond" with a small, select group? Why not "bond" with everyone? What's the purpose of limiting that?

You clearly don't understand the psychology behind gaming, and what makes a game accessible. There's a reason most MMOs, for instance, have beginner's areas, something that has been around since the early days of text-based MUDs- if you throw a bunch of new players in with veterans, you won't attract many new players, as they won't see what all the fuss is about when they're being killed over and over again.

So you give them a playground and limit their communication to a small number of channels on which only noobs and admins are. They bond, get a feel for the mechanics, get hooked on their little noobly quests, etc. Then, when they have a feel for things and are hooked on the game, you throw them out into the rest of the world where they die, but they at least know what they're dying for and have some feel for what fun can be had at the end of the day.

It's the same reason games match players against similarly skilled players nowadays. Before skill-matched algorithmic gaming, a new player would log into an FPS or RTS and die or be quickly defeated. Over and over and over again. There would be a select few that persevered, but they were either very talented, very masochistic, or very determined. This was good for having a small community of very talented players, but led to many games having a shelf life of only a year or so before those talented players moved on and their numbers dwindled until they died.

So basically I'm backing noob games for the same reason that gaming companies have decided to make multiplayer gaming accessible- it improves your player base by giving a larger number of people an opportunity to feel like they are succeeding early on, building up their investment in the game and other players, before throwing them up against a real, spirit-breaking challenge. How many noob games is the optimal number is the real question.

 

[pp9]

I think another noob game would be fun! Maybe one a bit more complex (mayor election, whatever else) so we can learn about that. We don't have to have mentors, either, especially since not everyone had equal access to mentors anyways. What works for a few people won't work for the majority, and it's pretty clear another noob game would be fun and beneficial for us. I'd rather learn the game a bit more (especially since I feel like I was just skimming the entire time with classes and whatnot) before playing with the more experienced and losing interest quickly. Plus, I also feel like I was more included in the community for once playing with these guys.

 

[hazelmoo]

I would have never jumped in a game had it not been specifically for noobs! Noob games give a chance for newer people to be involved. I think they're a great idea!

 

[dyachei]

I don't think another noob game is needed. I think we need to include noobs and veterans in games. I also think, based on what I saw in this game that there are many players here that are as good or better than some veterans. I think having 1 noob game is enough. Maybe make it an "easier" game to include everyone. But noob only games are not a good idea in the long run. Have the noobs bond with veterans. Why can't everyone bond?

 

[hazelmoo]

I don't think another noob game is needed. I think we need to include noobs and veterans in games. I also think, based on what I saw in this game that there are many players here that are as good or better than some veterans. I think having 1 noob game is enough. Maybe make it an "easier" game to include everyone. But noob only games are not a good idea in the long run. Have the noobs bond with veterans. Why can't everyone bond?

That's a good idea. Maybe specify *noobs and veterans welcome* in title so newer people aren't scared to join.

 

[Mad Jack]

I don't think another noob game is needed. I think we need to include noobs and veterans in games. I also think, based on what I saw in this game that there are many players here that are as good or better than some veterans. I think having 1 noob game is enough. Maybe make it an "easier" game to include everyone. But noob only games are not a good idea in the long run. Have the noobs bond with veterans. Why can't everyone bond?

There's more of a shared sense of "we're in this together" when everyone else is in the same boat as you. There's also a certain level of openness that noobs have that veterans don't have that leads to them making friends. But hey, that's just my opinion.

 

[dyachei]

There's more of a shared sense of "we're in this together" when everyone else is in the same boat as you. There's also a certain level of openness that noobs have that veterans don't have that leads to them making friends. But hey, that's just my opinion.

Well my point is that everyone can bond, so I don't agree with this. You know how I bonded with several players? Over the course of many games. You know what happened when some people had pre-bonded? Squirrel-gate. A wolf and villager agreed to make it to the end. So the wolf informed the villager of other wolves and almost ruined the game.

 

[pp9]

Well my point is that everyone can bond, so I don't agree with this. You know how I bonded with several players? Over the course of many games. You know what happened when some people had pre-bonded? Squirrel-gate. A wolf and villager agreed to make it to the end. So the wolf informed the villager of other wolves and almost ruined the game.

What game was this?! I wanna read it!

 

[WildZoo]

Well whether or not MJ runs another noob game, Gwen and I should be done with our Golden Compass game by the beginning of next week. 25 roles, we'll be giving first preference to veterans (a day for them to sign up first) and then noobs can sign up too. So that's an option too!