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Animal Midwife said:
Voting yourself if you're village hurts the village more than any other move will. Village numbers are extremely important.
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I'm aware self-votes are bad but I didn't want to be a long-term nuisance. Now that I got into the analysis mode, I'll do what I can to help village. I just didn't want to be a burden 🙁
 
Lawper said:
I wasn't a fan of literal last minute switches that basically lynched a villager. And yeah, some are villagers who made a mistake for whatever reason, but the point was to show that counterwagon was incredibly shady and why I don't think they're all village. I clarified and expanded on my comments with several posts.
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Lappy, what are your thoughts on Dolphin? ☕
 
Animal Midwife said:
Please just unvote yourself and don't go back to it.
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I did. I switched my vote to Mel but I won't self-vote 🙁

I'll do it again in case it didn't register:

Unlynch Lawpy
Lynch Mel

I think I responded to the votes on me so I'm going to switch out of the defense mode and respond to some things that I saw D2 + some analysis posts.
 
Lawper said:
The leading lynch candidates were only one vote ahead of my current lynch candidate and I didn't think either of them were wolfier than YK. That's why I didn't change my vote to MJ or WZ. If the difference in votes were significant (say MJ and WZ having 6 votes and YK had 2 including mine), your argument would have merit. 3-2 difference is marginal.
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Not sure you had explained that. If you didn't, would have helped if you had. Otherwise it just seemed like you were doing your best to stay out of their lynches

@dolphin106258 how many games have you read or observed?
 
Miranda Senft said:
Overall, the people I want to hear from more (with ACTUAL content posts) are: Coffee?, Snowy, MJ, FinnSki, Sporty, Dolphin, Allie, Stagg, Katashark, Houston (do you have a problem?), DPMD, and FS.
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So you want to hear from more then half the players left? 😵

Stagg737 said:
Why? You've only made 1 actual comment about me seeming sketch which was an emoji. So I'd like to hear an actual explanation, even if it is short, as to why you'd suddenly drop a vote on me, seemingly without reason. I wasn't really getting wolf vibes from you, and I'm trying not to now even though some other players have said you're not following your usual pattern. I'd like an actual reason to not suspect you though other than my gut doesn't think so.

I wasn't reading wolf from Pippy initially, but looking back I can see where some people are getting those feels. I know she's got the post restriction, but I'd like some explanations from her and more than just 5 word responses (though I sympathize with the restriction, I'd like actual answers).
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Wow retailory suspicions here... You went from pippy is fine to pippy is wolfy.

The tallest building in Colorado is the Republic Plaza at 57 stories high, in Denver.
 
Lawper said:
I wasn't a fan of literal last minute switches that basically lynched a villager. And yeah, some are villagers who made a mistake for whatever reason, but the point was to show that counterwagon was incredibly shady and why I don't think they're all village. I clarified and expanded on my comments with several posts.
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Yeah sorry, I thought I hadn't played much with you, but now when you mentioned it I have played a few games with you and I definitely remember the game you were a wolf and quietly ghosted most of the game (well on thread). And you were pretty talkative in the game before when you were village. Now I'm back on the YK wagon as that comment may have been trying to set you up. I'm guessing either you or YK are wolves. Leaning to a YK lynch vote today.
 
Unofficial D2 lynch tally
Mel (3) - MJ, Sporty, Lawpy
Jayna (1) - Mel
Lawper (4) - YK, AM, SAR, Jboo
Staggs (1) - Pippy
dolphin (1) - Coffee?
10/23
Lynch close ~4.5 hours
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SnowshoeDog143 said:
Yeah sorry, I thought I hadn't played much with you, but now when you mentioned it I have played a few games with you and I definitely remember the game you were a wolf and quietly ghosted most of the game (well on thread). And you were pretty talkative in the game before when you were village. Now I'm back on the YK wagon as that comment may have been trying to set you up. I'm guessing either you or YK are wolves. Leaning to a YK lynch vote today.
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You don't think dolphin is a wolf?
 
Karabiner13 said:
@SportPonies and @youngkal what do you think of dolphin?
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I haven’t gotten much but I feel like coffee maybe have some info. But i don’t really like just using some one else’s thoughts/logic as the only reason to vote.


Also I’m on my way to work so I’ll be off again until like 3-4a EST
 
I don't really get the Jayna votes, she has made a lot of sense and not very sketch to me. I am going back and forth between YK and Lawper, but I'm leaning towards YK because of her comments on lawper's wolf play which don't match up to his actual play (now that I remember it). I don't have thoughts on mel. But he is helpful if he is village so not desperate to lynch him right away. He also pushes lynches hard when he is village or wolf so him pushing dubz is not necessarily sketchy to me. Miranda (is that who moose is?) is repeating other peoples thoughts a lot without much of her own analysis so she goes in my sketch pile. I really like coffee's analysis on dolphin too. No one else has really caught my eye as wolfy, but there are still a lot of people I don't have good reads on because they haven't posted a lot.
 
CoffeeQuestionMark said:
I am doing this on my phone so please excuse the weird quote order.

--Retalitory lynch Jayna
--Comment about trying to stay under the radar.. Doesn't want to be unintentionally sketchy except for strategizing? One, nobody *wants* to be sketchy, 2, I haven't seen any strategizing from her yet
--Quick to get on after my tag
--After getting on, said nothing except wondering why i think she is sketch and saying last night was to confusing to do anything, then saying Mel is sketch w/o reason
--Not to mention, didn't move her retalitory lynch even after saying she would
--Hasn't even denied it
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Tried to explain the under the radar comment already. But alrighty, I said Mel seemed sketchy after the whole waffling thing, but I saw others said that might be their typical MO so I was like I’m not convinced. Just trying to explain my thought process thus far since I hadn’t been talking much. But just to be clear not a wolf. Although pretty sure when people say that everyone thinks they’re a wolf. 🙄
 
Karabiner13 said:
Not sure you had explained that. If you didn't, would have helped if you had. Otherwise it just seemed like you were doing your best to stay out of their lynches

@dolphin106258 how many games have you read or observed?
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I’ve only read one, the last one that was played and I didn’t get through the entire thing.
 
CoffeeQuestionMark said:
You are quick to give Jayna a pass for this.

If you feel historically one wolf was on dubz' lynch, why not look at the other wafflers first?

I know Paws is dead, but you already established that you feel based on past history 1 wolf was on this lynch. Now you're giving both AM and Jayna a pass - totally going back on your statement then? If AM does this kind of waffle as village, do you think she is NOT likely to do it as wolf?

How do you feel about that before the wafflefest, she was questioning several players, but focusing on MJ, who frankly was more active yesterday than in other games D1???

Also, this is the second time you've mentioned Lawper without really hard evidence, other than today following lead based on self-lynch. Do you HAVE another reason to believe he is wolf? If he unlynched himself would you think he is less sketch?
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I'm not giving Jayna a pass, I had to go back and re-analyze. I did, and she's still sketching me out, but Lawpy's self-vote sketched me out more. He has since unlynched himself but I'm still super weirded out by it all.

Counter-point: Why do you think AM isn't village?

Lawper said:
I'm just a derpy vanillager whose mislynch wouldn't significantly hurt village.
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It may not hurt village in the short-term, but it might in the long-term.

Lawper said:
Unlynch Lawpy
Lynch Mel

I'll go back to voting myself before end of D2.
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Digging your own grave I see
 
Just got done with errands and sitting down at a computer for the first time today. Catching up now.
First person I come across that suggests I was ghosting gets my lynch vote for the day 😛
 
SnowshoeDog143 said:
I don't really get the Jayna votes, she has made a lot of sense and not very sketch to me. I am going back and forth between YK and Lawper, but I'm leaning towards YK because of her comments on lawper's wolf play which don't match up to his actual play (now that I remember it). I don't have thoughts on mel. But he is helpful if he is village so not desperate to lynch him right away. He also pushes lynches hard when he is village or wolf so him pushing dubz is not necessarily sketchy to me. Miranda (is that who moose is?) is repeating other peoples thoughts a lot without much of her own analysis so she goes in my sketch pile. I really like coffee's analysis on dolphin too. No one else has really caught my eye as wolfy, but there are still a lot of people I don't have good reads on because they haven't posted a lot.
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I is moose 🙂 and that whole long post I did at 1:30 is original thought! Yes, I would like to hear from the people who are being quiet because the last game we just lynched the quiet ones and they were all village but I don't want that to prevent me from voting them because they could very well be wolfy (especially because of the last game!). And you voting for dolphin based on Coffee?'s questionable 🙂p) analysis is sketch since you're saying I'm sketch for listening to people and agreeing with them.
 
johnnaboo said:
I'm not giving Jayna a pass, I had to go back and re-analyze. I did, and she's still sketching me out, but Lawpy's self-vote sketched me out more. He has since unlynched himself but I'm still super weirded out by it all.

Counter-point: Why do you think AM isn't village?


It may not hurt village in the short-term, but it might in the long-term.


Digging your own grave I see
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I never said AM was wolfy?
 
Miranda Senft said:
I is moose 🙂 and that whole long post I did at 1:30 is original thought! Yes, I would like to hear from the people who are being quiet because the last game we just lynched the quiet ones and they were all village but I don't want that to prevent me from voting them because they could very well be wolfy (especially because of the last game!). And you voting for dolphin based on Coffee?'s questionable 🙂p) analysis is sketch since you're saying I'm sketch for listening to people and agreeing with them.
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What parts of my analysis are questionable?

Do you think I have proof or no?
 
CoffeeQuestionMark said:
What parts of my analysis are questionable?

Do you think I have proof or no?
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I was making a pun 😛 (you have a question mark at the end of your name haha) but I don't know if you have proof or not. I'm not discrediting you as I think you made some very good points (especially about the tagging her and her immediately showing up) but I don't know if I'm on board as she's barely read any games and this is her first one and her comments did sound pretty noobish to me.
 
Karabiner13 said:
and what are your thoughts on kal and sporty?
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Well kal seemed upset at others for getting on their D1 vote choice. Then seemed to just be defending herself, but then I was a little salty when they decided to jump on me just based on other people’s thoughts. Since I tend to take everyone’s thoughts with a grain of salt, especially if it’s coming strictly from reading posts not actual PMs. I can’t eemember the last post I read from sporty tbh, I’ll have to go back and look. I’ve been trying to keep up with everyone :bang:
 
dolphin106258 said:
Well kal seemed upset at others for getting on their D1 vote choice. Then seemed to just be defending herself, but then I was a little salty when they decided to jump on me just based on other people’s thoughts. Since I tend to take everyone’s thoughts with a grain of salt, especially if it’s cominf strictly from reading posts not actual PMs. I can’t eemember the last post I read from sporty tbh, I’ll have to go back and look. I’ve been trying to keep up with everyone :bang:
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so you're not pm'ing with either of them?
 
Stagg737 said:
MJ should probably be "leaning village", but I've interacted with him on the forums for years now and watched him play as wolf in 2 games. Nothing he's done so far really reads wolf to me or seems like he's trying to be deceptive. YK isn't giving me wolfy feels, but the whole D1 thing makes me skeptical. Admittedly, I need to go back and read through D1 more closely to get some more solid impressions which is why I haven't voted yet, but that's where I'm sitting right now. I obviously may change that if given compelling reasons, but responses like Pippy's certainly won't make me change my mind.
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Melchizedek said:
I have a feeling that Paws role revealed to @Animal Midwife and got burned last night...
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Revisited this theory. If wolves knew about Paws' ability, it would have been more profittable to have used today to swing the lynch to Paws and get village to waste a day or two trying to confirm/get rid of what we might have thought was an alpha.

Karabiner13 said:
And you had to bring this up 4 minutes before close rather than earlier why? MJ was the vote that tied kal for the lead 34 minutes before this. Why not bring it up then?
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Thats when it occurred to me. I'm a little slow kay?

PippyPony said:
TIDE:

egalliv os dednuos t'ndah swap hsiw adniK

hsi-won pu gnihctac ;yadretsey deneppah tahw wonk yllaer neve t'nod ,daerht eht no dniheb m'I
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🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Lawper said:
Whoops, i tend to freely self-vote regularly when things get bad.
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He does. Its annoying, but NAI in his case.
RE: Lawper.
I don't think he's a wolf, just overdramatic. He's smarter than to paint a target on his back by pushing me as a lynch knowing he'd come under fire when I flip village.
Or...at least I think he is?
 
Karabiner13 said:
@SportPonies and @youngkal what do you think of dolphin?
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I don't think anything of dolphin but I've been at work all day and am 3+ pages behind.

Unless something major happened, my opinion is probably "noob is a noob". Going to my brother's HS graduation now but if I get the chance to sneak a read of the thread I will.
 
SportPonies said:
I don't think anything of dolphin but I've been at work all day and am 3+ pages behind.

Unless something major happened, my opinion is probably "noob is a noob". Going to my brother's HS graduation now but if I get the chance to sneak a read of the thread I will.
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Why do you say this?
 
Animal Midwife said:
Why do you say this?
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I'm not sure why I'm being asked about dolphin. Like, are they up for lynch? Am I a PM partner with them? Did they say something on thread (the "something major") that was sketchy? Like I said, I haven't read anything since this morning, besides stuff I was tagged or quoted in, so I don't know what's going on right now
 
SportPonies said:
I'm not sure why I'm being asked about dolphin. Like, are they up for lynch? Am I a PM partner with them? Did they say something on thread (the "something major") that was sketchy? Like I said, I haven't read anything since this morning, besides stuff I was tagged or quoted in, so I don't know what's going on right now
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I don't see how those things are relevant to your opinion. Would it any of these occuring change what you thought?
 
JaynaAli said:
Dude...Dolphin has 25 forum posts. If having no SDN posts doesn't scream 'im a noob' idk what does? If they'd played before they would have had more posts.
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Unlynch Jayna - Coloring so mods can find it in the ensuing post.

Karabiner13 said:
have to agree with paws here. Players have been called out for posting strategy in spoilers in the past and I think some have gotten lynched for it
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finnickthedog said:
Certainly possible, but why do you think the wolves would immediately kill an unlynchable villager?
And why do you think Paws would have shared her role?

Also, the voices in my head are compelling me to yell at you for hiding things in spoiler tags. I THINK I'M SUPPOSED TO PUT THINGS IN CAPS IN ORDER TO YELL AT YOU. EXCLAMATION POINT!
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This is not the first time I've spoilered long explanations to save people from eyebleed. I don't remember anyone taking issue with it until now :sorry:

PippyPony said:
si eh esuaceb s'tahT
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dpmd said:
Mel is manipulative whether wolf or village. Not sure if that is long term strategy or just how he is.
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I'm very behind on this thread. I'm gonna try to catch up but I also have an abstract to finish so we'll see how this goes.

Melchizedek said:
This is not the first time I've spoilered long explanations to save people from eyebleed. I don't remember anyone taking issue with it until now :sorry:
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Uh... so did you just decide to not answer my questions then? I'm hurt, Mel.
 
Melchizedek said:
Revisited this theory. If wolves knew about Paws' ability, it would have been more profittable to have used today to swing the lynch to Paws and get village to waste a day or two trying to confirm/get rid of what we might have thought was an alpha.
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WELL NEVERMIND THEN (in regards to ignoring my question... I read the post where I was quoted before I read the rest of thread and I'm just gonna assume this is why you didn't bother responding. Because otherwise you're just rude.).

This is why I asked you in the first place though, for anyone who was giving me a weird look for questioning it... the voices and I thought similarly that immediately killing Paws might not have been the most likely wolf move if they knew her role because she had a relatively non-threatening role, was looking a little suspicious, and could have been used to mislead the village for a day or two.
 
youngkal said:
Oh it will happen lol
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Good lord I didn't realize how deeply I'd scarred you :hilarious:
Lawper said:
I'm not refusing anything, but I'm pointing out and emphasizing the WZ wagon was strange and shouldn't be dismissed. The WZ wagon serves as useful information for tracking down wolves.

There are other weird things going on such as Mel's diversion attempts to genny, you and Jayna that I noticed as well as some recent comments on Mel's ability to persuade people in chats regardless in affiliation. Those points are noted and I'm responding to them. But there are a lot of things for me to respond to now.
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Will admit that in the moment Genny's comment right before lynch close looked a lot like her riding the pine between two lynch candidates, but looking at her overall gameplay she feels village.
CoffeeQuestionMark said:
I am doing this on my phone so please excuse the weird quote order.

--Retalitory lynch Jayna
--Comment about trying to stay under the radar.. Doesn't want to be unintentionally sketchy except for strategizing? One, nobody *wants* to be sketchy, 2, I haven't seen any strategizing from her yet
--Quick to get on after my tag
--After getting on, said nothing except wondering why i think she is sketch and saying last night was to confusing to do anything, then saying Mel is sketch w/o reason
--Not to mention, didn't move her retalitory lynch even after saying she would
--Hasn't even denied it
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How do you feel about Jboo beetlejuicing after I tagged her yesterday? (Like you're pointing out in the above?)
Animal Midwife said:
Mel is ghosting.
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Lynch Animal Midwife.
You thought I was joking 😛

WildZoo said:
*********
Oh I'm still dead? Imagine that
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Kara, another one for your Salt Court!

finnickthedog said:
I'm very behind on this thread. I'm gonna try to catch up but I also have an abstract to finish so we'll see how this goes.



Uh... so did you just decide to not answer my questions then? I'm hurt, Mel.
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If its the question about why I think wolves would kill an unlynchable villager; that was my knee-jerk reaction that if wolves coudln't mislynch Paws they would NK her instead, but see a couple posts above about why I've moved on from that avenue of thought. If its another question, I missed it.

ETA: ninja'd
 
Melchizedek said:
Good lord I didn't realize how deeply I'd scarred you :hilarious:

Will admit that in the moment Genny's comment right before lynch close looked a lot like her riding the pine between two lynch candidates, but looking at her overall gameplay she feels village.

How do you feel about Jboo beetlejuicing after I tagged her yesterday? (Like you're pointing out in the above?)

Lynch Animal Midwife.
You thought I was joking 😛


Kara, another one for your Salt Court!


If its the question about why I think wolves would kill an unlynchable villager; that was my knee-jerk reaction that if wolves coudln't mislynch Paws they would NK her instead, but see a couple posts above about why I've moved on from that avenue of thought. If its another question, I missed it.

ETA: ninja'd
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Beetlejuicing?
 
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