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Here is the summarized reads list-
Honestly, a lot of the people that are feeling off to me are "off limits" in a place unknown. I really do wish I could vote for Kc, since during my re-read, she was the one who stood out the most. Beyond that, I'm also interested in m#.
For today, and for a potential lynch vote, I might go emlady. It is weird that she hasn't offered more content, even if she is busy, and a little on the quiet side. My other wolf reads are unfortunately not currently available for lynch, so this is the best I've got...

On that note, why is everyone voting for Coffee? Is it just because of the weird stuff at the end of last night with the waffles?
 
Stagg737 said:
Now that I'm totally caught up:

Unlynch Coffee
Lynch MPM

Because after reading the stuff on the blocking I'm feeling just as comfortable with MPM and that flip will give me more info (on Barks and Miz). I want to go back and iso Coffee a bit more, but right now I'd be okay with a lynch there too.
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Lol what even is this

You're ok with a Coffee lynch, but you're more concerned about MPM, but actually this morning you were most concerned about Barks?
 
mypetmoose said:
Here is the summarized reads list-
Honestly, a lot of the people that are feeling off to me are "off limits" in a place unknown. I really do wish I could vote for Kc, since during my re-read, she was the one who stood out the most. Beyond that, I'm also interested in m#.
For today, and for a potential lynch vote, I might go emlady. It is weird that she hasn't offered more content, even if she is busy, and a little on the quiet side. My other wolf reads are unfortunately not currently available for lynch, so this is the best I've got...

On that note, why is everyone voting for Coffee? Is it just because of the weird stuff at the end of last night with the waffles?
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Does emmy's quietness seem different than normal to you?
 
Animal Midwife said:
Does emmy's quietness seem different than normal to you?
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Eh it's hard to tell. She is always quiet... I also don't know that I've ever seen her wolf. But also, I feel like normally she is just quiet lol and doesn't make excuses for it.
 
Day 3 Unofficial Lynch Tally

koffee (3) - genny, AM, SAR
Stagg (3) - zigjaz, Coffee?, Pippy
miz (2) - lawpy, Barks
SAR (1) - grebes
genny (1) - Mel
Mel () -
mpm (4) - miz, emmy, Stagg, MsP
Barks (1) - dolphin

15/29

Deadline 10pm est (~4 hours)

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(For those doing tallies, not currently at a computer, add a #####Lynch vote to MPM from MsP######)
 
mypetmoose said:
Eh it's hard to tell. She is always quiet... I also don't know that I've ever seen her wolf. But also, I feel like normally she is just quiet lol and doesn't make excuses for it.
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Who were your other suspects that you can't access today?
 
CoffeeQuestionMark said:
But you don't think ZJ is a wolf. So you would've been ok with 2 villagers dying?
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I've been over this at least twice now. I didn't want a tie, but I was most likely to live by creating that tie as Zigs was the closest one to getting lynched other than me and she couldn't put me in the lead. Additionally, I know I'm not a wolf. Ziggy could be even if I'm reading her as village and I'd rather anyone else die other than me.

CoffeeQuestionMark said:
Why would I vote Stagg of everyone voting for me (which he isn't even anymore)?
Did you not follow where I asked "you're OK with two villagers dying?" In reference to the tie and then he ignored the question completely, and changed his vote right off of me?
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Again, I thought I answered this multiple times already. I didn't want two villagers dying but that was the best chance I had at living.

PippyPony said:
Can I get a reads list from you when you get a second? Not paragraph format, a ranked list of village --> wolfy

I feel like you are hedging like woah on your reads today and now you're sheeping my vote.
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I'm not hedging and I'm not sheeping your vote at all. I was still behind and going page by page when I voted Coffee, so I didn't even know you'd voted there. I don't appreciate the shade you're throwing here.

My top wolf picks are MPM and Coffee?, fine with either lynch, then probably Barks (could change significantly depending on how MPM would flip, same with Miz), then Capri, then it kind of drops off a bit. Was feeling Lawpy yesterday, but he's fallen off my sketchdar today, which means I should probably look at him at some point. I'd also like to hear more from EM as her last second vote yesterday and minimal participation (one post with reads) doesn't make me feel comfortable, but it's still early enough that I wouldn't place an actual vote there yet.

More village I have AM, Ziggy, you, and Paws. Dolphin to a lesser extent as well. (all mostly based on feels and not pinging anything).

Anyone else is either neutral or Idk.


PippyPony said:
Lol what even is this

You're ok with a Coffee lynch, but you're more concerned about MPM, but actually this morning you were most concerned about Barks?
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Was this not clear from my posts? I'm okay with Coffee or MPM getting lynched, but MPM would give me more info on other people, including Barks. I never said Barks was the person I was most concerned with. Don't put words in my mouth.
 
Stagg737 said:
I've been over this at least twice now. I didn't want a tie, but I was most likely to live by creating that tie as Zigs was the closest one to getting lynched other than me and she couldn't put me in the lead. Additionally, I know I'm not a wolf. Ziggy could be even if I'm reading her as village and I'd rather anyone else die other than me.



Again, I thought I answered this multiple times already. I didn't want two villagers dying but that was the best chance I had at living.



I'm not hedging and I'm not sheeping your vote at all. I was still behind and going page by page when I voted Coffee, so I didn't even know you'd voted there. I don't appreciate the shade you're throwing here.

My top wolf picks are MPM and Coffee?, fine with either lynch, then probably Barks (could change significantly depending on how MPM would flip, same with Miz), then Capri, then it kind of drops off a bit. Was feeling Lawpy yesterday, but he's fallen off my sketchdar today, which means I should probably look at him at some point. I'd also like to hear more from EM as her last second vote yesterday and minimal participation (one post with reads) doesn't make me feel comfortable, but it's still early enough that I wouldn't place an actual vote there yet.

More village I have AM, Ziggy, you, and Paws. Dolphin to a lesser extent as well. (all mostly based on feels and not pinging anything).

Anyone else is either neutral or Idk.




Was this not clear from my posts? I'm okay with Coffee or MPM getting lynched, but MPM would give me more info on other people, including Barks. I never said Barks was the person I was most concerned with. Don't put words in my mouth.
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In what way? Tie rules state both and all parties die.
 
CoffeeQuestionMark said:
Why would I vote Stagg of everyone voting for me (which he isn't even anymore)?
Did you not follow where I asked "you're OK with two villagers dying?" In reference to the tie and then he ignored the question completely, and changed his vote right off of me?
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I kind of want to change my vote back to you and see if you'd create a tie to self-prez. In fact,

Unlynch MPM
Lynch Coffee
 
CoffeeQuestionMark said:
In what way? Tie rules state both and all parties die.
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This. Has. Been. Ex. Plained.

By creating the tie, all that needed to happen was for someone to waffle onto Zigs or drop off of me. Or someone could have done the same and I'd have gotten lynched. If I hadn't created the tie I very likely would have gotten lynched, which I'm not about to willingly let happen. If you don't understand why villagers should always vote to self-prez then I don't know what to tell you.
 
Day 3 Unofficial Lynch Tally

koffee (4) - genny, AM, SAR, Stagg
Stagg (3) - zigjaz, Coffee?, Pippy
miz (2) - lawpy, Barks
SAR (1) - grebes
genny (1) - Mel
Mel () -
mpm (3) - miz, emmy, MsP
Barks (1) - dolphin

@CoffeeQuestionMark , you're winning.

15/29

Deadline 10pm est (~4 hours)

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Animal Midwife said:
There were three last night.
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What makes you think that?

SARdoghandler said:
Does she usually just drop a vote with no justification and not contribute anything else? I know she's not a crazy active player, but I felt like I've seen her contribute thoughts more often than she did over the past two days? I may be misremembering the games she and I have played together
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She has done very similar things previously, yes.
emlady09 said:
Doggos lynch happened within 5 minutes. I wasn’t trying to make a tie.
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Then you should vote earlier.
mizchiefmanaged said:
I don't believe that the knight getting grievously injured was due to an attack on the knight, and I have reasons for that I'd rather not bring up yet. I'll go back and re-read the first day's summary.
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What makes you think that?

mizchiefmanaged said:
Getting off of this train of thought a little bit, did anyone get attacked the first night? Either in a fire-and-flames way or a blocked way? Nobody was killed the first night.

I was 'blocked' the first night by a dark figure. Did anyone get blocked by a similar figure or someone else?
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Not sure if anyone was attacked with fire but fireballs were mentioned n1.
mypetmoose said:
Well, I actually didn't submit a night action that night... I know this isn't making me look any better. I haven't actually successfully blocked anyone yet...
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Not sure I buy this.
 
dolphin106258 said:
These were your feels yesterday evening-ish when asked but you felt none were strong enough to move off of stagg who was really just an inactivity/less quality posts vote.


Then today you choose to vote Miz based on some of your earlier feelings around the Doggo stuff i believe along with the resistance to Stagg, so the resistance is what pushed the sketchy over the edge to vote for them today as opposed to yesterday? But Stagg is no longer sketchy to you? Because he’s posting more or is the quality better? I’m not saying we shouldn’t try to encourage people to post more I’m just so confused with your logic and you sitting on the Stagg vote yesterday just did not make me feel good.
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In that first post I said that I wasn’t ready to vote for ziggy because I usually find her sketchy and I was mostly sideyeing miz at that time because his posts about doggo didn’t make sense and then he said he got her confused with cubs. And then last night and today she started sketching me out even more. I feel better about Stagg today because the quality of his posts have been better than they were before
 
Stagg737 said:
This. Has. Been. Ex. Plained.

By creating the tie, all that needed to happen was for someone to waffle onto Zigs or drop off of me. Or someone could have done the same and I'd have gotten lynched. If I hadn't created the tie I very likely would have gotten lynched, which I'm not about to willingly let happen. If you don't understand why villagers should always vote to self-prez then I don't know what to tell you.
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1. Basically you're saying to not die, ziggy had to die, and choosing for you to die over ziggy is sketchy? We have no idea if you are village so how is making that decision sketchy? Is not wanting 2 people to die sketchy?
2. When you voted ziggy, doggo had the same number of votes as zigs. You could've voted doggo instead.
 
Stagg737 said:
My top wolf picks are MPM and Coffee?, fine with either lynch, then probably Barks (could change significantly depending on how MPM would flip, same with Miz), then Capri, then it kind of drops off a bit. Was feeling Lawpy yesterday, but he's fallen off my sketchdar today, which means I should probably look at him at some point. I'd also like to hear more from EM as her last second vote yesterday and minimal participation (one post with reads) doesn't make me feel comfortable, but it's still early enough that I wouldn't place an actual vote there yet.
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@PippyPony , reread that you didn't want paragraph.

Wolf reads from most wolfy to least: MPM/Coffee -> Barks ---> Capri ----------> Lawpy/EM
 
CoffeeQuestionMark said:
1. Basically you're saying to not die, ziggy had to die, and choosing for you to die over ziggy is sketchy? We have no idea if you are village so how is making that decision sketchy? Is not wanting 2 people to die sketchy?
2. When you voted ziggy, doggo had the same number of votes as zigs. You could've voted doggo instead.
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1. Jesus H. Christ, NO! I'm saying that it would be stupid to let myself die when I could place a vote that would drastically increase my chance of living. And yes, that is true even if it risks 2 people dying for a brief period of time. For the millionth effing time, I didn't want 2 people to die, but you betting effing believe that I'm going to do everything possible to self-prez unless I have an amazing reason to let someone else live over me. Period. This has nothing to do with what other people thought and everything to do with me wanting to not freaking die. How is this concept so GD hard for people to understand. I feel like I'm taking GD crazy pills.
2. Sure, but I chose Ziggy because I thought I had a better chance of living with a vote there and I didn't have any reason to think Doggo was wolfy. I would have rather Ziggy lived than Doggo as I had/have an actual read (village-y) on her, which is why I switched over to Doggo when it looked like she could take the lead. Again, regardless of how I'm reading the other candidates, I'm going to choose to try and live in almost every circumstance. Period.

I legitimately don't understand how this is such a difficult concept for anyone to understand, and this is doing absolutely nothing to make me feel better about you.
 
Stagg737 said:
@PippyPony , reread that you didn't want paragraph.

Wolf reads from most wolfy to least: MPM/Coffee -> Barks ---> Capri ----------> Lawpy/EM
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Thanks, but I think you are still misunderstanding what I'm looking for here.

If you had to rank everyone lynchable without equivocation, where would each person stand? Where would MPM end up in relation to Coffee? I get the sense from your posts this afternoon that you're no longer so sure who is your top wolf read and why
 
Stagg737 said:
1. Jesus H. Christ, NO! I'm saying that it would be stupid to let myself die when I could place a vote that would drastically increase my chance of living. And yes, that is true even if it risks 2 people dying for a brief period of time. For the millionth effing time, I didn't want 2 people to die, but you betting effing believe that I'm going to do everything possible to self-prez unless I have an amazing reason to let someone else live over me. Period. This has nothing to do with what other people thought and everything to do with me wanting to not freaking die. How is this concept so GD hard for people to understand. I feel like I'm taking GD crazy pills.
2. Sure, but I chose Ziggy because I thought I had a better chance of living with a vote there and I didn't have any reason to think Doggo was wolfy. I would have rather Ziggy lived than Doggo as I had/have an actual read (village-y) on her, which is why I switched over to Doggo when it looked like she could take the lead. Again, regardless of how I'm reading the other candidates, I'm going to choose to try and live in almost every circumstance. Period.

I legitimately don't understand how this is such a difficult concept for anyone to understand, and this is doing absolutely nothing to make me feel better about you.
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Don't you see 1 was mentioned for ME because you claim you don't like my reasons for the vote? So if you agree with what I'm saying how can you simultaneously not like it?
 
Stagg737 said:
This. Has. Been. Ex. Plained.

By creating the tie, all that needed to happen was for someone to waffle onto Zigs or drop off of me. Or someone could have done the same and I'd have gotten lynched. If I hadn't created the tie I very likely would have gotten lynched, which I'm not about to willingly let happen. If you don't understand why villagers should always vote to self-prez then I don't know what to tell you.
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Karabiner13 said:
D2 Official Lynch Tally

dubz () -
mpm (4) - sar, jboo, koffee, stagg
stagg (5) - dubz, zigjaz, barks, capri, mpm
mel (3) - skim, sov, matty
miz () -
doggo (3) - kcough, dina, lawpy
skim (2) - pips, trilt
dolphin (2) - genny, mutts
capri () -
zigjaz (4) - grebes, paws, doggo, MsP
am (1) - dolphin
genny (1) - mel
jboo (1) - jahboi
koffee (1) - am

27/31

@Stagg737 is in the lead

Missing: allie, emmy, pbc, miz

Deadline 10pm est (~10 minutes)
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Karabiner13 said:
D2 Official Lynch Tally

dubz () -
mpm (3) - sar, koffee, stagg
stagg (5) - dubz, zigjaz, barks, capri, mpm
mel (4) - skim, sov, matty, jboo
miz () -
doggo (3) - kcough, dina, lawpy
skim (2) - pips, trilt
dolphin (2) - genny, mutts
capri () -
zigjaz (4) - grebes, paws, doggo, MsP
am (1) - dolphin
genny (1) - mel
jboo (1) - jahboi
koffee (1) - am

27/31

@Stagg737 is in the lead

Missing: allie, emmy, pbc, miz

Deadline 10pm est (~5 minutes)
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Stagg737 said:
No, I'm bitching about people voting for someone who hasn't had time to catch up for the sole reason that they haven't had time to catch up. It's a lazy, garbage way to vote.
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Stagg737 said:
Unlynch MPM
Lynch Zig

Again for self-prez
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So if it was a self prez vote, why did you do it with less than 2 minutes left in Lynch, when you had over 10 minutes to be able to change your vote and tie it? and you had enough time to make another post? I have seen this exact same thing before. And the person was a wolf.
 
ziggyandjazzy said:
So if it was a self prez vote, why did you do it with less than 2 minutes left in Lynch, when you had over 10 minutes to be able to change your vote and tie it? and you had enough time to make another post? I have seen this exact same thing before. And the person was a wolf.
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Because I didn't want you to get lynched since I'm reading you as village and was hoping people would jump back on MPM, which didn't happen. Yes, I realize that it ended up putting you at even higher risk, which I was very unhappy about, but I was backed into a corner and I'm going to do whatever I need to for self-prez if I have to. It had nothing to do with hoping there would be a tie as I obviously didn't want either of us to get lynched.
 
###lynch mpm###
Coffee is pinging my sketch-dar today and I would be fine with this staying a tie
 
CoffeeQuestionMark said:
Don't you see 1 was mentioned for ME because you claim you don't like my reasons for the vote? So if you agree with what I'm saying how can you simultaneously not like it?
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I was saying that choosing me to die over Ziggy was sketchy because you had been village reading me all day. You could have voted Doggo and made it a 3 way tie. Which sounds crazy, but with me and Ziggy voting for each other it would have made it really easy for one of us (or both) to jump over to Doggo for self-prez and then both of use would be less likely to get lynched. I get what you're saying and looking back at the time in which it happened I can understand you breaking the tie. There were other options though including waiting to see if someone else would break the tie as well.

Do you really not understand why I voted for self-prez and why I wouldn't think that was the best option for village?
 
Animal Midwife said:
Why?
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Her behavior has been sketching me out. I’m comparing it to the last time she was a wolf and a villager, and this seems more like her wolf behavior. She’s giving stagg a lot of **** for a self-prez vote which is an extremely normal thing to do. Seems like she’s trying to throw a lot of shade.
 
Stagg737 said:
I was saying that choosing me to die over Ziggy was sketchy because you had been village reading me all day. You could have voted Doggo and made it a 3 way tie. Which sounds crazy, but with me and Ziggy voting for each other it would have made it really easy for one of us (or both) to jump over to Doggo for self-prez and then both of use would be less likely to get lynched. I get what you're saying and looking back at the time in which it happened I can understand you breaking the tie. There were other options though including waiting to see if someone else would break the tie as well.

Do you really not understand why I voted for self-prez and why I wouldn't think that was the best option for village?
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I had been reading ziggy village all day, too, and I explained if it was between 2 village reads I'd pick the one willing to take that risk. With how close it was to lynch close, I was not wanting to play the waiting game. And as you can see, when doggo came up for lynch I switched off of you. I don't get why you're acting like I did something you wouldn't have done.
 
Matthew9Thirtyfive said:
Her behavior has been sketching me out. I’m comparing it to the last time she was a wolf and a villager, and this seems more like her wolf behavior. She’s giving stagg a lot of **** for a self-prez vote which is an extremely normal thing to do. Seems like she’s trying to throw a lot of shade.
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I would say read the entire day's exchange to see why rather than just glimpsing at it :yeahright:
 
CoffeeQuestionMark said:
I had been reading ziggy village all day, too, and I explained if it was between 2 village reads I'd pick the one willing to take that risk. With how close it was to lynch close, I was not wanting to play the waiting game. And as you can see, when doggo came up for lynch I switched off of you. I don't get why you're acting like I did something you wouldn't have done.
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I wouldn't vote to lynch someone I thought was villager if I wasn't up as a lynch candidate. There were 31 people casting votes and I think 17 who could have broken the tie, so I'd let one of them do it. Especially with how many people were on and posting around lynch close. Plenty of people could have broken that tie, there was no reason it had to be you when you were village reading both of us.
 
Matthew9Thirtyfive said:
Don’t have that kind of time. If you can summarize briefly and convincingly I will change my vote.
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The votes on me began early today referencing my waffle last night which I had already explained (the most important thing to realize for this is I voted Stagg after he tied the lynch with only 2 minutes to go). Last night, after my explanation, Stagg made a post before he went to bed stating that he didn't like it, but was going to iso my other posts and wasn't going to go there yet.

So today, a few people voted for me first thing and referenced the same vote waffle. Later Stagg got on and voted me, referenced the waffle, without having iso'd my other posts as he said he wanted to. I pointed out this fact and questioned him about why he started the tie and immediately he switched off me to mpm. Then, switched back on later wanting to see if I'd make it a tie myself.
 
It has taken me all day to catch up on thread. I had been quoting posts as I went, but of course, they are all gone since it took me so long (I started on page 15 this morning). So, I was also attacked last night, though now I'm wondering if "attacked" always means attack with the intent to kill, or just a wolf/antagonist performing the action. I find it super sketch that mpm claims to be a blocker and yet hasn't been successful in blocking for 2 nights, so I'm inclined to vote there. Something mutts said also seemed sketchy, but I'm not even sure I can vote there yet (I haven't checked yet, but wanted to make a note).

Lynch mpm

For now.
 
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