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Animal Midwife said:
You said, at the beginning of this cycle, that you already had me and Zen pegged as wolfy, but waited until a couple of other players voted for me so you wouldn't look suspicious by being the first one.
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No you'd be wrong about that. I was on this morning before work. I almost never post lynches early in the day. I hadn't decided between you and Zen at that point...
 
LetItSnow said:
For everyone else who didn't pick up on it - this is BS.

Posting frequency is part of your metagame behavior. So STL's "decreased activity" is changed behavior. What he's really trying to say is that - trust him - his changed behavior isn't wolfy, but my changed behavior somehow is. It's 100% classic STL smoke 'n mirrors.



I know it isn't. I acknowledge it. But part of it is that you're comparing recent play to my true overall metagame. Lately I've come in aggressive, gotten my list together, and actually had statistically really good luck (in 2 of my last 4 games I've voted for a wolf D1). This game I've been meh. I get it. If you want to lynch me out to break the egg, so be it. The reality of what's going on, though, is that I'm just not feeling this game.

In that way, I actually agree with STL - my play has been different from recent games. It's contextually within my metagame, but .... anyway. All to say "I get it."



I'm sketchy for agreeing with you? Jesus that's harsh.



It doesn't matter when you got added to the final roster - this is more STL smoke 'n mirrors.

What matters is whether you were in it when all the roles went out.

I have no idea when they went out, because I didn't get a role PM.

Since you can't (I imagine) prove that you were added after roles went out ....... you don't have a point. The 'final roster' thing is a red herring, because that doesn't equate to when roles went out. Wolves could have been rolled up at any time up to when the role PMs went out.

Since the only people getting roles are villager PRs and wolves ..... obviously nobody is going to want to talk about the timestamps on those PMs. So you don't have any actual point to make here with regard to your "I was added late, therefore I can't be a wolf" argument.



Haaahahahahahaha. Nicely done. 🙂



If Zen is your top pick, and Zen is DVMD's top pick, then let's just vote Zen. It won't clear me in the mind of you and DVMD, but it will at least push you and DVMD over to village in my mind if Zen flips wolf, since you two have both been blunt about it. Then you can lynch me whenever you want, but at least it gets the village back on track. And nobody seems to want to lynch LG (my top pick right now) anyway, so I might as well back-burner that.

unlynch LG
lynch zen
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On the run, I will respond more in depth to this later, but if I recall correctly, trilt claimed all roles were out that night, and added me to the roster at 6:11 am the next morning (per edit stamp).
 
Sorry all, it's Good Friday and my day is much more crazy than I anticipated. I'll try to catch up in a bit.
 
DVMDream said:
I'm not saying you didn't. I'm saying that at that time, you also hadn't posted much. It is odd to call out the couple of players posting less than you as suspicious because of not posting. You have since definitely posted more, but it is still out to call out someone for not posting much when you also weren't. It isn't a matter of..well they had 3 posts and I had 6. It is a matter of everyone else being very active and you being among the least at that time.
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So I went back and counted the number of posts made by everyone on days 1 and 2 because I am ridiculously stubborn and don't have enough to do with my time right now. I present to you probably useless data that DVMD will just dismiss anyway:
# Posts Day 1:
PBC - 4
Pippy - 65
Cheat - 6
STL - 12
CDO - 7
Coop - 21
Snowy - 15
WZ - 5
Kata - 1
LIS - 3
Lyra - 4
3M - 10
Zen - 12
AM - 10
genny - 9
WTF - 7
ny - 6
hmoo - 6
LIS - 11
gwen - 1

# Posts day 2:
STL - 12
snowy - 14
ny - 4
hmoo - 11
LIS - 7
AM - 12
Zen - 7
WZ - 7
WTF - 5
cdo - 4
genny - 10
coop - 3
DVMD - 1
Lyra - 5
kata - 1
PBC - 10
3M - 19
kata - 5
gwen - 0
 
Lynch AM
Animal Midwife said:
It wasn't about you defending Pippy, but rather not doing anything about it when she was clearly going to be lynched.
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this is a really really weird post to me.

Animal Midwife said:
Pushing? I'm not even voting for 3m. I'm merely pointing out what's wrong with her arguments.
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Animal Midwife said:
I already gave you my reasoning on voting for Coop. And I wouldn't have broken a tie, I would have created one. Or are you implying you would've switched had I done it first?

Lynch 3m
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Animal Midwife said:
Waiting to vote for me and completely ignoring my reasoning isn't helping your case.
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Animal Midwife said:
You said, at the beginning of this cycle, that you already had me and Zen pegged as wolfy, but waited until a couple of other players voted for me so you wouldn't look suspicious by being the first one.
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AM seems to be fighting... everyone right now. especially 3M. A lot of AM's comments are really suspicious as well, so that's where I'm voting.
 
cdoconn said:
Lynch AM
this is a really really weird post to me.


AM seems to be fighting... everyone right now. especially 3M. A lot of AM's comments are really suspicious as well, so that's where I'm voting.
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If someone is acing wolfy, I sure am going to fight them. I'm not sure what you mean about me fighting others though.
 
genny said:
So I went back and counted the number of posts made by everyone on days 1 and 2 because I am ridiculously stubborn and don't have enough to do with my time right now. I present to you probably useless data that DVMD will just dismiss anyway:
# Posts per day
Pippy - 65
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🤣
 
Officialish Lynch Tally:

Zen (4) - STL, WZ, DVMD, LIS
WZ (0) -
AM (4) - Coopah, WTF, 3m, Cdo
STL (1) - nyanko
3M (1) - AM
Lyra (0) -
genny (1) - hmoo

11/15 voting - check your votes! Lynch close in just over 2 hours.
 
(I just realized I made it into a tie, but there's still 2 hours and 4 more voters to go. Not to mention waffles 4 dayz. So don't freak out)
 
cdoconn said:
(I just realized I made it into a tie, but there's still 2 hours and 4 more voters to go. Not to mention waffles 4 dayz. So don't freak out)
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Fwiw, I wouldn't be overly upset with this tie. Zen I feel strongly is wolf. AM is in neutral territory, but only because I assume she will be sketchy at the beginning of games.
 
Zen is being oddly (?) vocal.....I've played with her as a wolf at least once, if I am recalling correctly, but I don't remember much about her style as such. I thought I remembered her as somewhat quiet but then again I seem to remember a lot of newbies (same with my question about AM) that way since I took quite the break from WW here in prevet. So far all the people I DO know (LIS, STL, DVMD, etc) are playing within their bounds, except perhaps WZ for being quiet and a tad snippy.
 
I appreciate Zen's explanations for her questioning of 3m and Pippy, but agree her play seems weirdly aggressive. I'm not super familiar with her play style, but I went back and skimmed her posts from the immuno game since it looks like that was the last time she was a villager, and she seemed much more laid-back there.

Lynch Zen for now, although STL and WZ are still sketching me out. I'm not feeling the AM lynch, but she's one of those people that's always hard to read for me.
 
Animal Midwife said:
90 MIN BEFORE LYNCH CLOSE:



30 MIN BEFORE LYNCH CLOSE:



AFTER PIPPY'S LYNCH:
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Animal Midwife said:
Where did I encourage anyone to lynch her?
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Animal Midwife said:
You said, at the beginning of this cycle, that you already had me and Zen pegged as wolfy, but waited until a couple of other players voted for me so you wouldn't look suspicious by being the first one.
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These two things are what's setting off me alarms about AM. I usually view her as pretty village early game which I know is not the normal view. She first points out some fallacies with 3m's arguments but doesn't vote to lynch, then claims to not push the 3m lynch, then casts shade on 3m again because 3m questioned her. This is just such a strange exchange to me. She's still not voting 3m I believe, so why is she poking 3m so much? Is this an attempt to seem helpful? She seems wolfy to me.
 
WhtsThFrequency said:
Zen is being oddly (?) vocal.....I've played with her as a wolf at least once, if I am recalling correctly, but I don't remember much about her style as such. I thought I remembered her as somewhat quiet but then again I seem to remember a lot of newbies (same with my question about AM) that way since I took quite the break from WW here in prevet. So far all the people I DO know (LIS, STL, DVMD, etc) are playing within their bounds, except perhaps WZ for being quiet and a tad snippy.
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LyraGardenia said:
I appreciate Zen's explanations for her questioning of 3m and Pippy, but agree her play seems weirdly aggressive. I'm not super familiar with her play style, but I went back and skimmed her posts from the immuno game since it looks like that was the last time she was a villager, and she seemed much more laid-back there.

Lynch Zen for now, although STL and WZ are still sketching me out. I'm not feeling the AM lynch, but she's one of those people that's always hard to read for me.
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Immuno (and most other games) aren't a good barometer for checking my aggressiveness. I usually do more guessing how the theme relates to the game, explaining about the game's theme, or teaching new players. This is closer to a basics game - if I want to talk, that means launching accusations and seeing what sticks.

If I had another basics game where I was a villager, I'd point you towards that and ask you to check my meta.
 
Coopah said:
I usually view her as pretty village early game which I know is not the normal view.
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I know you do! Especially the recent couple of games where you were a wolf read me as village in the beginning.

She first points out some fallacies with 3m's arguments but doesn't vote to lynch, then claims to not push the 3m lynch, then casts shade on 3m again because 3m questioned her. This is just such a strange exchange to me. She's still not voting 3m I believe, so why is she poking 3m so much? Is this an attempt to seem helpful? She seems wolfy to me.
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I believe I addressed this in a different post, but I don't see anything wrong with calling out sketchy behavior. Ignoring all other players except for the one I'm lynching is tunneling. And yes, I am voting for 3m.
 
genny said:
So I went back and counted the number of posts made by everyone on days 1 and 2 because I am ridiculously stubborn and don't have enough to do with my time right now. I present to you probably useless data that DVMD will just dismiss anyway:
# Posts Day 1:
PBC - 4
Pippy - 65
Cheat - 6
STL - 12
CDO - 7
Coop - 21
Snowy - 15
WZ - 5
Kata - 1
LIS - 3
Lyra - 4
3M - 10
Zen - 12
AM - 10
genny - 9
WTF - 7
ny - 6
hmoo - 6
LIS - 11
gwen - 1

# Posts day 2:
STL - 12
snowy - 14
ny - 4
hmoo - 11
LIS - 7
AM - 12
Zen - 7
WZ - 7
WTF - 5
cdo - 4
genny - 10
coop - 3
DVMD - 1
Lyra - 5
kata - 1
PBC - 10
3M - 19
kata - 5
gwen - 0
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You still aren't understanding my point. And I'm really not going to keep explaining it. You either get that you, at the point of the post I quoted on page 7, were not among the top/active posters or you don't. I can't explain it further and I'm not going to keep beating the subject as I've stated a couple times you've started posting more recently.
 
DVMDream said:
You still aren't understanding my point. And I'm really not going to keep explaining it. You either get that you, at the point of the post I quoted on page 7, were not among the top/active posters or you don't. I can't explain it further and I'm not going to keep beating the subject as I've stated a couple times you've started posting more recently.
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Honestly, I think she's just sassing like Day 1. Doesn't mean I like it - she could at least put that much effort into playing the game for real 😡
 
Zensing said:
Honestly, I think she's just sassing like Day 1. Doesn't mean I like it - she could at least put that much effort into playing the game for real 😡
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I am playing for real :lame:

Just because DVMD didn't find my post count informative, doesn't mean I didn't gain anything from re-reading everyone's posts.
 
Official Lynch Tally:

Zen (5) - STL, WZ, DVMD, LIS, lyra
WZ (0) -
AM (5) - Coopah, WTF, 3m, Cdo, genny
STL (1) - nyanko
3M (1) - AM
Lyra (0) -
genny (1) - hmoo

13/15 voting
Roll call: @Zensing @PrincessButterCup
Lynch close in ~25 minutes.
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lynch AM self-preservation.

Got my eye on Coopah for never answering and genny for the posts. I'm with DVMD; I don't think they're contributing.
 
For self-preservation,

Unlynch 3m
Lynch Zen

If I live, I'm heading back to 3m tomorrow.
 
Zensing said:
lynch AM self-preservation.

Got my eye on Coopah for never answering and genny for the posts. I'm with DVMD; I don't think they're contributing.
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It's also interesting that both of the players you're unsure about are on my lynch.
 
SummerTheLynx said:
On the run, I will respond more in depth to this later, but if I recall correctly, trilt claimed all roles were out that night, and added me to the roster at 6:11 am the next morning (per edit stamp).
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No.

Trilt made an edit to the post with the roster at 6:11am. It could have been any edit.

I'm not saying you're necessarily lying. But I didn't track what edits Trilt made. For all I know Trilt edited you in earlier and made some other change to the post at 6:11am. It definitely would be up your alley to claim that the 6:11am edit was to add you so that you could claim to be mod-vouched as villager.

(Which totally ignores that I'm not completely sold on your math (wolf:villager) argument, anyway.)
 
genny said:
So I went back and counted the number of posts made by everyone on days 1 and 2 because I am ridiculously stubborn and don't have enough to do with my time right now. I present to you probably useless data that DVMD will just dismiss anyway:
# Posts Day 1:
PBC - 4
Pippy - 65
Cheat - 6
STL - 12
CDO - 7
Coop - 21
Snowy - 15
WZ - 5
Kata - 1
LIS - 3
Lyra - 4
3M - 10
Zen - 12
AM - 10
genny - 9
WTF - 7
ny - 6
hmoo - 6
LIS - 11
gwen - 1

# Posts day 2:
STL - 12
snowy - 14
ny - 4
hmoo - 11
LIS - 7
AM - 12
Zen - 7
WZ - 7
WTF - 5
cdo - 4
genny - 10
coop - 3
DVMD - 1
Lyra - 5
kata - 1
PBC - 10
3M - 19
kata - 5
gwen - 0
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Sounds like maybe it's time to get Gwen out of the game. 🙂
 
Zensing said:
Still not happy with 3m, but don't think I have anything more to add that I didn't say last night. As for other discussions...

@genny - I echo cdo. Why are you voting WZ?

@DVMDream - what are your thoughts now that you've read through the thread?

As for me, I'm interested in people who pushed a kata lynch. I thought gwen's day 1 was more suspicious (drop in once a few hours before lynch close and parrots other's reasons) than kata's (random vote at the start where she implied she wanted to come back), so I'm wondering if kata was put up for lynch instead of gwen because people thought kata had a sketchier meta-game reputation (vote more likely to stick).

@Coopah, why did you zero in on Kata's lynch yesterday? @LetItSnow, why did you agree?
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I lynched Kata first I think, because she posted once all game. I asked for more and she didn't give it. So I stayed where I was. She never really gave any useful reads or suspicions besides gwen who was mod killed when she was lynched. I would have been happy to lynch gwen as well, but I as happy with my vote where it was and with the lynch adding up it would have been pointless to switch.
 
LetItSnow said:
Sounds like maybe it's time to get Gwen out of the game. 🙂
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well... Trilt's one step ahead of you in that Gwen was mod killed yesterday.
LetItSnow said:
Personally, I think ties at that point (2+ hours before close) are just fine.
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Oh I completely agree. I just wanted to say it so that way in a couple of days they're not like "omg but Cdo made it into a tie! Obviously a wolf."

(Which, for the record, we are still in a tie.)
 
cdoconn said:
well... Trilt's one step ahead of you in that Gwen was mod killed yesterday.
Oh I completely agree. I just wanted to say it so that way in a couple of days they're not like "omg but Cdo made it into a tie! Obviously a wolf."

(Which, for the record, we are still in a tie.)
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Zen is in the lead, no tie
 
cdoconn said:
well... Trilt's one step ahead of you in that Gwen was mod killed yesterday.
Oh I completely agree. I just wanted to say it so that way in a couple of days they're not like "omg but Cdo made it into a tie! Obviously a wolf."

(Which, for the record, we are still in a tie.)
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Pretty sure LIS was just joking around.
 
Animal Midwife said:
It's also interesting that both of the players you're unsure about are on my lynch.
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That just happens. I try to base my suspicions on people's logic. Not going to fall into pippy and 3m's trap of thinking people voting for them must be the evil, evil wolves :bang:
 
Official Lynch Tally:

Zen (7) - STL, WZ, DVMD, LIS, lyra, AM, PBC
WZ (0) -
AM (6) - Coopah, WTF, 3m, Cdo, genny, Zen
STL (1) - nyanko
3M (0) -
Lyra (0) -
genny (1) - hmoo

15/15 voting. Check your votes before results are posted.
 
Last edited:
Sometimes periods are used wrongl.y, deviate a little, act a little... off. Thankfully, this one got caught off her guard.

Dead is @Zensing, a WOLF period with no abilities.
​
It is now N3. Night will close ASAP if actions are submitted, or 6AM EST at latest.

Roster:
1. @LetItSnow
3. @WildZoo
4. @genny
5. @LyraGardenia
7. @nyanko
8. @cdoconn
11. @Animal Midwife
13. @Coopah
15. @WhtsThFrequency
16. @PrincessButterCup
17. @mmmdreamerz
18. @hazelmoo
19. @SummerTheLynx
20. @DVMDream

Dead
9. @PippyPony - Period
2. @cheathac - Period
10. @Gwenevre - Period
14. @katashark - Period
12. @SnowshoeDog143 - Period
6. @Zensing - Period
 
Woot!

Gonna reread the day with the knowledge that Zen was a wolf. Phone freaked out while I was catching up so no quoted posts but I think I remember who I wanted to respond to...

DVMD - It's fine. If people want to lynch me for being inactive they can. All I'm saying is not to expect it to change. I'm trying out playing a little more laid back so that I can still play without it taking over my life. If that means I get lynched more often so be it.

I think I've gotten snippy every time that's come up in the last...er I don't know feels like every time I've been a villager lately. I enjoy a little sass every now and again :lame:

Ny - I started that post about the kills hoping something would come of it, realized there wasn't much there, but decided to go ahead and post it anyway. I thought I made it clear at the end that it did give me reason to continue to look in lyra's direction (she's top of my list now, though still need to reevaluate with new info).
 
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