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That has changed now. I got a secondary from LECOM E today, and have not heard anything from B yet.
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That has changed now. I got a secondary from LECOM E today, and have not heard anything from B yet.
dsoz
We were talking about the initial batch of secondary invitations and how people were able to prematurely submit Erie's secondary...
Hey everyone how did you go about deciding which campus is your first choice? (Erie vs. Seton)
I am having trouble finding out the difference between the two and haven't turned in my secondary because I don't wanna make any decisions without good research.
Thanks for the help.
I am having trouble finding out the difference between the two and haven't turned in my secondary because I don't wanna make any decisions without good research.
Thanks for the help.
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I know what PBL and Lecture are. What's the independent study? Is it a mix between PBL and Lecture?
And which campus has what?
Thanks
From a post in a different thread:
"ISP (independent study)=You are given modules of information to study independently outside of the classroom, meeting once a month with your preceptor for reviewing info, questions, etc. Tested based on modules with hundreds of objectives guiding you on what to focus your studies on."
Only the Erie campus has ISP.
ISP now = DSP: Directed Study Pathway.
Just know that it's not as "independent" as it seems. (Still a good pathway). You will be taking anatomy (with cadaver lab, unlike PBL) and neuroanatomy with LDP students with mandatory attendance. You will also have a few other scattered classes with LDP students. It's not as independent as it seems.
So you aren't all alone all the time, you get to study with your peers? I would hate being alone all the time!!!
Which campus do you attend and how did you chose it? Could you give me some details about each if you happen to know about both?
Thanks
For EVERYONE
ERIE:
LDP- ~190 seats. Lecture 8-4 M-F (not always, there will be time when you have off). You will have cadaver lab. Everything else is just like undergrad. Lectures are not recorded. Lecture is mandatory, but as long as your grades are up to par you may get away with missing a few.
PBL- ~ 40 seats. House style. 7/8 students per group. 6-8 cases per exam with 80-120 pages a case. 2-3 exams a semester. Every group is given the same case, but each group chooses their pages and learning objectives. PBL uses anatomy cadaver software and does not have an actual cadaver lab. Each groups exam are tailor made for them.
DSP/ISP ~ 30 seats Learn anatomy and neuroanatomy with LDP. Otherwise you learn one subject at a time. You are given a module with 100-250 learning objectives and then an exam on those objectives.
SETON HILL
PBL only ~100 seats, very similar to Erie PBL with some nuances.
BRADENTON
PBL only ~180? seats.
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Thank-you so much!!!!!!!!!!!!
Where do the PBL's get anat? ...also with LDP?
PBL does not have cadavers. They have anatomy software and learn through their computers. They take the same exam as LDP and ISP, but instead of seeing cadavers, they see the pictures from their software (or random netters cards).
thanks for the info
What are your thoughts on this? Do you think it leaves the PBL students at a bit of a disadvantage when it comes to anatomy?
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I'm going to throw in my two cents.. I'm getting my masters in anatomy so I've already been through a full cadaver lab gross anatomy class with DO/DPM students and I think anatomy is best learned via cadaver lab. You can study Netter all you want and learn how things are supposed to be, but I never fully understood it until I got into lab and dissected things myself. The best part of lab is that you get an appreciation for how different everyone is - how there's no standard of anatomy. Sure, what Netter shows is most common but every body has anomalies and that's the great part of lab - you have access to multiple cadavers so you can compare and contrast them and really get a feel for it.
But since I've already been through a full cadaver class I'd probably be more inclined to go with PBL since I've already had this experience.
Just my two cents😀 Take it or leave it! I know PBL is very appealing for other reasons so you just have to weigh the pros and cons.
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👍 I 100% agree with futchadoc. However, I started the year in LDP and had cadaver lab and then switched into PBL. Personally, if I used only the software I would feel like my anatomy knowledge was lacking, but that's just me. They're are plenty of people who were fine using the software. I would still choose PBL with software over LDP anyday of the week.
Is that masters in anatomy a special masters program where you are taking medical school class equivalents or is it a hard science masters?
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It's a masters program with a teaching emphasis, but we take medical school classes with DO/DPM students (they give one big lecture to students from all programs). We take biochemistry, cell bio, gross anatomy, microbiology, physiology, and neuroanatomy with them in the first year. Then in the second year we TA in the anatomy lab and do some advanced dissection projects and teaching seminars and such. PM me if you want more details.
Would you mind sharing your opinions on how well PBL prepares students for boards? I have read that students decide on their own what they need to read/study after they are given a case. Are the faculty members keeping track of if the PBL students are on "track" to ensure they go through everything needed for boards. My only concern is that there isn't much guidance given to PBL students which leaves the students to just figure out everything on their own.
Just got an interview invite for the 17th of August! I turned in my secondary right around the first of the month. 3.32 sGPA 3.45 cGPA 30O
PBL looks like the bomb, except for the anatomy. I would REALLY prefer to work on cadavers.
PBL looks like the bomb, except for the anatomy. I would REALLY prefer to work on cadavers.
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Did you get an email or was it just updated on their portal? Congrats!!
Hey thanks! I got an email from them this morning. Great way to start a Monday!
CONGRATULATIONS! Imagine being accepted and being done with your app. cycle so early on!🙂
Hey Everyone
One of the science professors that will be submitting an LOR for me just emailed me and needs to know my 10 character document ID to upload a letter to Interfolio - I'm assuming that this is an Interfolio ID?
Also, since I'm going to need to make an Interfolio account, when it makes me choose a plan, there is the $19 for "LOR's and credentials", but then there is the free option for "submit LORS" - are you guys doing the free one or do we need to pay the $19? I know that when you send them you pay money but I'm just not sure how this all works. Anyone who may know, could you please fill me in on how this works? Thank you!!!
One of the science professors that will be submitting an LOR for me just emailed me and needs to know my 10 character document ID to upload a letter to Interfolio - I'm assuming that this is an Interfolio ID?
Also, since I'm going to need to make an Interfolio account, when it makes me choose a plan, there is the $19 for "LOR's and credentials", but then there is the free option for "submit LORS" - are you guys doing the free one or do we need to pay the $19? I know that when you send them you pay money but I'm just not sure how this all works. Anyone who may know, could you please fill me in on how this works? Thank you!!!
Congrats!
Ha ha! That would be a strange feel that's for sure.
Congrats to everyone's upcoming interviews!
I submitted my AACOMAS on July 1st. LECOM is one of my top choices but I haven't got a secondary from them yet. Did I somehow miss it or was I screened? 😕 It seems *everyone* has gotten their secondaries
sGPA: 3.01 (3.8 post-bacc)
cGPA: 3.2
MCAT (Jan 2012): 33Q
Pretty Good ECs.
I submitted my AACOMAS on July 1st. LECOM is one of my top choices but I haven't got a secondary from them yet. Did I somehow miss it or was I screened? 😕 It seems *everyone* has gotten their secondaries
sGPA: 3.01 (3.8 post-bacc)
cGPA: 3.2
MCAT (Jan 2012): 33Q
Pretty Good ECs.
Since you submitted on July 1st, has your app already been verified and released by AACOMAS?
a strangely AMAZING feeling. I know plenty of us would be envious of you if you get done so early. haha. best of luck on your interview.
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Hey guys, I have an August 3rd interview with Lecom, but August 17th is slightly more convinient.
Would you guys recommend that I reschedule? Do your chances of acceptance diminish if you interview two weeks later?
Would you guys recommend that I reschedule? Do your chances of acceptance diminish if you interview two weeks later?
Yes, I was actually preverified in June so they were verified the instant I sent them out in July 1st. I've received secondaries from schools other than LECOM and sent them out.
Hey, so does that mean that when you go for your interview, since LDP has more seats, its easier to secure an admission if you select the LDP pathway rather than the PBL?
There's a previous post on this page or the last that says that they look at which learning pathway to put you on AFTER they've decided to accept you.
See above.
I know this question comes up about 80 times during the app season so hopefully others will see.
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Nope, it just means your letter's in the mail. I got that exact message before I got my acceptance so it doesn't mean anything except the letter's in the mail and that you should begin to bite off all your finger nails from nervousness....like I did. Good luck!
Actually - I haven't even interviewed yet . . . soooo . . . acceptance letter would be awesome but not likely 🙂
I just called admissions - I was actually supposed to get an emailed interview invite, and this was posted by mistake. Jamie said I would get it later today. So if anyone else gets this status, don't freak out like I did!
Oh this is so cruel, I saw I got an email from LECOM, opened it expecting an interview invite...instead got a mini advertisement "I am contacting you because of your interest in entering the medical profession. If you have not yet done so, I encourage you to learn more about Osteopathic Medicine, the only American-born and fastest-growing form of medicine in the country. If you have already applied to LECOM, please disregard this message"
Checked my portal and I still haven't been processed. Congrats to those getting interviews
Checked my portal and I still haven't been processed. Congrats to those getting interviews
I'm still waiting to be processed, too. My stats are well above what they recommend, I submitted my secondary minutes after getting the invite... LECOM, come on already! 🙂
submitted my secondary on 7/2. My app was just marked received in their system TODAY. So there seems to be a major lag going on. But also got notification of interview today.
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Good things come to those who wait? (That's what I tell myself......)
haha fair enough. But when you do see that again after the inteview, see my post above!
did you get the email interview invite yet?
you might want to consider withdrawing your app...looks like LECOM only wants rebels 😎
