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Shame indeed on the DO doc! By maybe he/she wrote their own letter when they were applying and just give you the bad advice to do it yourself! lol
SHAME SHAME SHAME!!!! ARRRRR!!!
In reality, a lot of people do this. The reason they (sometimes) do it is because they want you to get the letter you want. Do you think if you write something they wouldn't agree with that they will sign it? Nope. I suggest you do write your own letter. I was at a conference at Touro-CA for med students applying to residency. The person speaking said that if a doctor asks you to write your own letter, write it. They said it is also not the time for you to be humble. Make your letter awesome.
I doubt any ADCOM will ask you if you wrote your own letter. In the event they did, just tell them they are the doc's thoughts and he signed them. The moment he signs that paper, they are his.
Awwwwwww...that made me laugh. If a person writes their own letter there is no doubt that the letter would be awesome!
It is true that physicians already have so many things to do in a day- adding a letter of recommendation on might seem daunting for a number of reasons. Maybe they only know you from 3-4 days of shadowing, or maybe they are afraid that their letters won't reflect exactly what you want to convey to the admissions committee.
When I request LoR's, I always provide a copy of my personal statement and resume/CV, and then I would wait to see if they will a) accept my request for a letter and then b) ask me to write it. I would say about 20% of the time, I have been asked to write my own letter. Here are some tips I found helpful in my process:
1. The language at the beginning needs to indicate a very strong recommendation. See this article- http://www.usmletomd.com/tips4match/2007/09/sample-letter-of-recommendation-lor.html
2. It should highlight your strengths, talents, and abilities. You might be diligent, punctual, a strong leader, reliable, enthusiastic, creative, organized, etc. Take a moment to list all of your strengths on paper before you sit down to write the letter.
3. The letter should be professional and personal. Use professional language and indicate to the reader that the letter writer knows you well and supports your aspirations.
4. When you finish, send the letter to your preceptor/DO in electronic format so he/she can edit it as needed. You can provide an envelope and instructions on how to send it in, or just have them print the final version and stick it in a signed/sealed envelope that you can pick up. You will know what you personally wrote, but at the end you may or may not see the final version of the letter.
Feel free to PM me if you have any more questions.
I was asked by two people to essentially write my own letter, and then they would put their own spin/voice on it. Worked out well, I think. Write something goodHeyy guys so the DO i was shadowing said for me to write my OWN letter of recommendation. Does anyone have any samples of any? or any that they also wrote themselves and had the DO just sign off on it??
You'd be surprised how many people have a hard time complimenting themselves.Awwwwwww...that made me laugh. If a person writes their own letter there is no doubt that the letter would be awesome!
1) You send your LORs out when you receive secondaries from schools. You don't send LORs to AACOMAS, you send them through an service like Interfolio, and then you can designate which schools to send it to once you get the secondaries from schools.
2) You'll have to send both scores
It is true that physicians already have so many things to do in a day- adding a letter of recommendation on might seem daunting for a number of reasons. Maybe they only know you from 3-4 days of shadowing, or maybe they are afraid that their letters won't reflect exactly what you want to convey to the admissions committee.
When I request LoR's, I always provide a copy of my personal statement and resume/CV, and then I would wait to see if they will a) accept my request for a letter and then b) ask me to write it. I would say about 20% of the time, I have been asked to write my own letter. Here are some tips I found helpful in my process:
1. The language at the beginning needs to indicate a very strong recommendation. See this article- http://www.usmletomd.com/tips4match/2007/09/sample-letter-of-recommendation-lor.html
2. It should highlight your strengths, talents, and abilities. You might be diligent, punctual, a strong leader, reliable, enthusiastic, creative, organized, etc. Take a moment to list all of your strengths on paper before you sit down to write the letter.
3. The letter should be professional and personal. Use professional language and indicate to the reader that the letter writer knows you well and supports your aspirations.
4. When you finish, send the letter to your preceptor/DO in electronic format so he/she can edit it as needed. You can provide an envelope and instructions on how to send it in, or just have them print the final version and stick it in a signed/sealed envelope that you can pick up. You will know what you personally wrote, but at the end you may or may not see the final version of the letter.
Feel free to PM me if you have any more questions.
So the LOR are part of the secondary app? Is that true for every DO school?
Hey guys, I planned on applying to DO schools early in the app cycle. But I don't have a DO letter yet. I will have to opportunity to shadow a DO in 1st week of August. Should I start applying to schools that don't require a DO LOR? and apply to rest of the schools when I get a LOR from a DO by mid august?
my stats are:
3.51 cGPA, 3.1 sGPA. I am taking my mcats on july 28th.
I have 3 months of research experience in kidney disease which got published in Journal of American Society of Nephrology.
I have 101 volunteer hours at VCU/MCV Hospital. Departments:
1. Surgical Trauma ICU
2. Surgical Services
3. Occupational Therapy
4. Post Anesthesia Care Unit
5. Palliative Care Unit.
I have been a active volunteer for Juvenille Diabetes Research Foundation.
I have 3 LORs:
1. From research mentor who is MD/Ph.D
2. Physics Professor who is Ph.D
3. Pre-med Committee of my University.
Lots of extra-curricular activities
Please give me some feedback.
Thank you
You should start applying now. Your stats are very good. Keep in mind that not all schools require a DO letter. Mine doesn't, but if you come from a DO rich area and don't have one, you're sure to be asked about it in your interviews.
Was your MD LOR a clinical or non clinical one? I have an MD from a non clinical volunteer position. I am not sure if that makes any difference.I think most schools actually DON'T require a DO letter. I had an MD letter and had several acceptances.
You should start applying now. Your stats are very good. Keep in mind that not all schools require a DO letter. Mine doesn't, but if you come from a DO rich area and don't have one, you're sure to be asked about it in your interviews.
Hi all, hope I am not restarting a new thread about this topic for DO.
I am applying to a few schools that require a letter of evaluation from the Dean of my undergraduate college. Is this a letter that is simply asking if I was involved in any disciplinary actions while at school? Or is this similar to any other letter of evaluation?
I have never met my Dean of Students and this requirement confuses me a bit.
Thanks
So, the school I'm applying to requires two LORs and allows (but doesn't really want) one more. I have a professor and DO to write the first couple, and I was wondering whether it would be worth having my former boss do the third? She's an amazing professional with a lot of credentials---in the horse training/competing industry. But I worked closely with her for about 60 hours a week for 6 months, and she knows me really well. She could (and has offered to) write an amazing LOR for me that would highlight a lot of personal characteristics that my professors just don't know me well enough to speak to. But I don't really know anyone who's used a former boss with no connection to the medical/academic field for an LOR. Do you think it's worth it?
Yes...I wouldn't send any LORs to a school until you've received their secondary application (or they been otherwise requested). Depending on when you submit your AACOMAS and how long it takes for it to be verified and transmitted, you might not need your letters until mid-July. However, I wouldn't tell your letter writers that With all but one of my letters, the writer waited until the week before the deadline I gave them and it really cut it close.
Hi all,
I am considering applying to DO school, but the only thing keeping me back is the letter from a physician (DO or MD). I haven't been able to shadow since I need to work full-time in order to sustain myself. So my question is: how important is this letter in the application process? I would only be applying to schools that indicate that a physician letter is not required or is "strongly recommended."
What do you guys think?
Thanks in advance!
You do not want the adcoms to have a right-off-the-bat reason to push your app to the side. This would include not shadowing a physician at all. Some understand that DOs are harder to come by in certain areas and so will accept letters from both MDs or DOs but most always prefer DO. Additionally, shadowing hours will give you something more to talk about during interviews. How do you know you want to be a physician if you've never really observed one carrying out his day-to-day duties? I was lucky enough to shadow a DO for two 4-hour (half day) sessions and he was happy to write a letter for me. The majority of DOs had to do the same thing so they are generally very receptive to students who want to pursue this degree.
Oh wow, I could use that small of an amount of time to shadow? I was thinking I'd need to do 40-some odd hours! I can definitely manage a day or two to shadow if it will yield a letter in the end. Is it really that simple?
I have a good amount of shadowing and clinical experience from when I was training to be an EMT, but that was nearly 6 years ago when I was in high school. Also, I sort of shadow physicians daily at my job when I interview them about their medical practice with a variety of CNS disorders. Do you think these things will work in my favor on the application?
Hi,
I have a recommendation letter from a physician that is signed but with no official letterhead. It has the physician's phone number, address, and the name of the Hospital. For Osteopathic schools, will the fact that the physician LOR does not have a letterhead be a problem? I appreciate all replies greatly! Thanks!
Look at school-specific LOR requirements. I believe most will require a confidential letter that you do not have access to, though. Why don't you set up an Interfolio account and have the physician simply upload the statement there? That would be best especially because many schools do not like LORs that students have access to (leaves room for doubt as to what the physician has to say about you since you can read the letter).