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alisvolatpropri said:
I agree with this. I think you should reconsider if you have the opportunity. You are basically signing your life over to Singapore. Bc it'll be impossible to come back as an attending and impossible for your husband to find faculty unless he double post docs in the us. These singapore programs are a scam to bring Americans over to stay permanently in Singapore and prevent a brain drain of their country.
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Why would it be impossible for me to come back if I take the USMLE and am a US citizen (my fiancé is a U.S. citizen who grew up in Singapore)? A lot of people at that school take the USMLE - why would anyone want to take it without the intention to practice in the US? I dunno, I feel like the world is opening, and it might even be more fair to my in-laws to live in Singapore for these 10 years and then live near my family afterward. Otherwise we would never see my in-laws because my MIL works full-time and can't take off work whereas my parents are self-employed. If anything, globalization will be all the more important in the coming years, and being part of this global initiative that bridges the east and the west can only bring good things.

I dunno, my gut is telling me to do it. I just really hope the one school still pending says yes....that would make my life way easier!

Also, I highly doubt that Duke University would lend its name to a scam. Also, why would Singapore want to bring in Americans when they have countless qualified Singaporeans who perform on par or higher than their American counterparts and would be much more likely to practice for life? I am familiar with the Singapore bond system (I made a lot of friends during my time at NUS who are international and currently on that system) and all have the intention to take advantage of Singapore's world-class education and excellent opportunities for work experience and then come back to their home countries and land high-status jobs. The system has been in place for years - it is simply Singapore's way of getting a return on their investment. I was told that they really don't care what you do once you've paid them back by serving their system. Also, most of the profs there are American so they might be able to help me navigate the system.
 
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physiologist said:
Why would it be impossible for me to come back if I take the USMLE and am a US citizen (my fiancé is a U.S. citizen who grew up in Singapore)? A lot of people at that school take the USMLE - why would anyone want to take it without the intention to practice in the US? I dunno, I feel like the world is opening, and it might even be more fair to my in-laws to live in Singapore for these 10 years and then live near my family afterward. Otherwise we would never see my in-laws because my MIL works full-time and can't take off work whereas my parents are self-employed. If anything, globalization will be all the more important in the coming years, and being part of this global initiative that bridges the east and the west can only bring good things.

I dunno, my gut is telling me to do it. I just really hope the one school still pending says yes....that would make my life way easier!

Also, I highly doubt that Duke University would lend its name to a scam. Also, why would Singapore want to bring in Americans when they have countless qualified Singaporeans who perform on par or higher than their American counterparts and would be much more likely to practice for life? I am familiar with the Singapore bond system (I made a lot of friends during my time at NUS who are international and currently on that system) and all have the intention to take advantage of Singapore's world-class education and excellent opportunities for work experience and then come back to their home countries and land high-status jobs. The system has been in place for years - it is simply Singapore's way of getting a return on their investment. I was told that they really don't care what you do once you've paid them back by serving their system. Also, most of the profs there are American so they might be able to help me navigate the system.
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Since you don't mind doing residency in Singapore, it really doesn't matter. Good luck! You earned it.
 
physiologist said:
Why would it be impossible for me to come back if I take the USMLE and am a US citizen (my fiancé is a U.S. citizen who grew up in Singapore)? A lot of people at that school take the USMLE - why would anyone want to take it without the intention to practice in the US? I dunno, I feel like the world is opening, and it might even be more fair to my in-laws to live in Singapore for these 10 years and then live near my family afterward. Otherwise we would never see my in-laws because my MIL works full-time and can't take off work whereas my parents are self-employed. If anything, globalization will be all the more important in the coming years, and being part of this global initiative that bridges the east and the west can only bring good things.

I dunno, my gut is telling me to do it. I just really hope the one school still pending says yes....that would make my life way easier!

Also, I highly doubt that Duke University would lend its name to a scam. Also, why would Singapore want to bring in Americans when they have countless qualified Singaporeans who perform on par or higher than their American counterparts and would be much more likely to practice for life? I am familiar with the Singapore bond system (I made a lot of friends during my time at NUS who are international and currently on that system) and all have the intention to take advantage of Singapore's world-class education and excellent opportunities for work experience and then come back to their home countries and land high-status jobs. The system has been in place for years - it is simply Singapore's way of getting a return on their investment. I was told that they really don't care what you do once you've paid them back by serving their system. Also, most of the profs there are American so they might be able to help me navigate the system.
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I think these are the reasons why people are not overly enthusiastic about this program:

1. You will be considered an IMG. Duke-NUS is not accredited by LCME so you would technically be the same as IMGs from Caribbean medical schools. IMG's typically have a harder time matching in the U.S. than U.S. medical graduates.

Duke-NUS Medical School is considered an international medical school by the LCME, the accreditation body for medical schools in the US and Canada. The LCME currently does not accredit schools physically located outside the US and Canada. As with other international medical school graduates, Duke-NUS graduates are eligible to enter residency training in the United States subject to fulfilling requirements for international medical graduates.

http://www.duke-nus.edu.sg/admissions/programs/faqs

2. The 5-year service in Singapore sounds like a dicey financial situation despite the full-tuition coverage. It's nice having your debt covered, but you will almost certainly be underpaid in those service years such that it comes out to be just about even.

3. It sounds like a run-of-the-mill foreign medical school with the Duke name slapped on it. The FAQ makes it clear that the program is all NUS, but with a Duke curriculum implementation that may be looked upon favorably by residency directors in the U.S. because they've heard of Duke before. I'm not sure if the curriculum is something that residency directors care about a lot when they evaluate residency applicants, but it doesn't sound very convincing.

But these are just other people's concerns. As long as you think you'll be happy doing this program, don't worry about what others think. Best of luck!
 
lcck said:
2. The 5-year service in Singapore sounds like a dicey financial situation despite the full-tuition coverage. It's nice having your debt covered, but you will almost certainly be underpaid in those service years such that it comes out to be just about even.
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This is the confusing part. They say full-tuition coverage, but you have to pay close to 50k a year anyway.
 
type12 said:
This is the confusing part. They say full-tuition coverage, but you have to pay close to 50k a year anyway.
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It's not full tuition coverage. It is government subsidized to lower its costs, but still comes out to about $48,000SGD (roughly $38,000USD?)/year. Most people take out bursaries/scholarships to pay for the tuition.

I would imagine going from Singapore back to US to practice will be difficult, but not impossible. Probably a lot of extra hoops to jump through. 1) It is not a US school, so its students will be considered as IMG. 2) It's residency program (in Singapore) is not ACGME accredited 3)Plus the bond service that you do not want to break.

It is NOT the best option for someone who wants to practice in the US. BUT it is a viable option, and a pretty good option for someone who wants to practice in Singapore. And maybe if you're lucky the residency program will be accredited by ACGME in the future.

Probably have to look up specifics on individual state licensing to determine really how difficult it will be to go back to the states and practice.
 
alisvolatpropri said:
Singapore is a cool place, but I think that it's a scam and not a good deal because you would have to effectively do 2 residencies in order to practice in the states and go into debt.
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Singapore is not exactly a third world country... I'm not in the mood to do any kind of complex financial analysis, but the statistic I found on the fly suggests she will be able to pay off her debt just as quickly as a US grad who ends up practicing in the US (Due to lower CoA, lower CoL, and the fact that doctors still make a good salary).
 
Singapore is listed quite high as one of the best places to live if I recall. That aside, I don't see much benefit going here over the Caribbean. You are exchanging 6 years for the Duke name. In my job, I interface with leaders in whatever fields they are in (based on the client). Lately, I've seen many with the Duke-NUS degree in Hematology and Oncology cropping up as rising stars. It's considered quite impressive a degree.

I don't like how they advertise it as full tuition covered by Singapore (they use that phrase) but then turn around and charge you an arm and a leg anyway. Coming back to the US concerns me less because of the prestige, but the six years looks like a big price on top of the debt...
 
So I'm waiting on 3 post-interview decisions from Jefferson, Einstein, and Albany (all the 3 interviews happened within the last week)

I'm hoping I get in to atleast one!
 
940 said:
i was lucky to interview at many schools, but there were six schools that i would love to get accepted to. but instead, i have 2 outright rejections (harvard, ucsf), 4 waitlists (columbia, washu, cornell, yale). i only needed one acceptance, but didn't get one. i don't know if i am the most fortunate (to even have the opportunity to interview) or most unfortunate (not one acceptance at a dream school). fml.
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Those are some great schools you got interviewed at. Did you apply to any lower tier schools?
 
SourD21 said:
Those are some great schools you got interviewed at. Did you apply to any lower tier schools?
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x2. Really hoping that's not the entirety of their school list, but it sounds like it is...
 
alisvolatpropri said:
By all means, do what your gut is telling you. I think everyone in the forum is trying to help you make an informed decision and wish you the best. I think it's great to have some years with the in laws but the fact that you would drop this school if you get into a US school seems like you are trying to talk yourself into reasons to go. Singapore is a cool place, but I think that it's a scam and not a good deal because you would have to effectively do 2 residencies in order to practice in the states and go into debt. 5 years in Singapore and then start all over again at the bottom of the totem pole in the US. Excluding family benefits, I think it's more worth it to go to a Caribbean school. I've met IMG residents on my resident team at age 40+, with years of stenting patients as attendings in their prior countries, having to start all over again in internal medicine because they FINALLY got in to a residency here, and it definitely sucks to start all over again as an intern. Also, you say that you want to live with your parents in the future, if you are lucky enough to get a residency, chances are it won't be in the same city as your folks, I've had US citizen friends from Carribean schools that were lucky to get a residency in the states but they're off in the boondocks at low tier residencies (still rocking it though). We are just trying to give you a realistic view of what you are signing into. I say that Singapore's programs are somewhat scams because they basically throw millions of dollars at research universities to form collaborations to gain a bigger name in the asian world and abroad. For example with MIT, HMS, Duke etc, which are basically false alliances just to brand name stamp themselves. They want Americans to come over so that other asian countries see that wow Americans would choose a Singapore school which gives them an element of prestige. They are basically trying to buy out all our big name guys and nobel laurates to start labs and institutes over there, but after a couple of years the Nobel Laureates are starting to come back unsatisfied. With that said, I think Singapore is an amazing country, GREAT food, safety to dream of etc, but I'm not sure I enjoy the false sense of scientific elitism that they brainwash themselves with and others. Just my 2 cents. According to another post, if there are medical students at Duke-NUS that are telling prosepectives not to come here and reapply, that's a red flag. Your app is strong enough to elicit interviews this year, I think you will be successful should you need to reapply.
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Please stop calling the program a scam, i am going there 🙂 They arent trying to trick anyone into going there. The admissions/students have warned me several times about returning to the us. that said, i dont believe its the best option to go to duke nus if u wanna end up in the states later on. If u can get an offer from a US school that beats everything in terms of wanting to be in the US afterwards. On the other hand if u wanna be in singapore, a lot of us med schools arent even recognized by the sg govt, and duke nus would be an awesome option for going to singapore for practice.

As for ur scientific elitism/prestige theory, cool interesting read 🙂
 
ih371990 said:
Please stop calling the program a scam, i am going there 🙂 They arent trying to trick anyone into going there. The admissions/students have warned me several times about returning to the us. that said, i dont believe its the best option to go to duke nus if u wanna end up in the states later on. If u can get an offer from a US school that beats everything in terms of wanting to be in the US afterwards. On the other hand if u wanna be in singapore, a lot of us med schools arent even recognized by the sg govt, and duke nus would be an awesome option for going to singapore for practice.

As for ur scientific elitism/prestige theory, cool interesting read 🙂
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I agree, don't call it a scam. You can express your concerns about the program and explain why it may not be a good fit for you, but don't downgrade it in a general sense.
 
So I'm not sure where the best place is to post this, but the main pre-allo page has too many trolls, the post-bac page doesn't get enough traffic, and you guys are generally way more supportive.

I'm currently waitlisted everywhere and I have a weak uGPA so I'm applying to SMP's. My dilemma is where to apply. I'm nontrad so I can't take out extra loan money to pay for more apps and I went through my savings to pay for med school apps, so I need to be somewhat selective. I'm definitely applying to programs at each of the schools where I am currently on the waitlist where I really want to go, but which others? There are some with really good reputations (and app fees that reflect as such) but they're ALL in locations I have no desire to be in or are tied to med schools I am not interested in attending.

So what do I do?? I want to make sure I have a contingency plan for the fall, but I want to apply wisely and money is a limiting factor. How many SMP applications are enough? How should I be deciding other than the ones that I am eligible for (graduate science, not career change or econ disadvantage) or ones tied to schools I want to attend?
 
CriticalCond said:
So I'm not sure where the best place is to post this, but the main pre-allo page has too many trolls, the post-bac page doesn't get enough traffic, and you guys are generally way more supportive.

I'm currently waitlisted everywhere and I have a weak uGPA so I'm applying to SMP's. My dilemma is where to apply. I'm nontrad so I can't take out extra loan money to pay for more apps and I went through my savings to pay for med school apps, so I need to be somewhat selective. I'm definitely applying to programs at each of the schools where I am currently on the waitlist where I really want to go, but which others? There are some with really good reputations (and app fees that reflect as such) but they're ALL in locations I have no desire to be in or are tied to med schools I am not interested in attending.

So what do I do?? I want to make sure I have a contingency plan for the fall, but I want to apply wisely and money is a limiting factor. How many SMP applications are enough? How should I be deciding other than the ones that I am eligible for (graduate science, not career change or econ disadvantage) or ones tied to schools I want to attend?
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This is a bit off track from want you are asking but you may want to consider where you go in terms of residency for when you apply after your SMP. If you went to an SMP in New York for example, you would have residency for NY and there are a high number of schools there. A similar place is Pennsylvania, lots of med schools. I know Drexel takes a relatively large portion of their med class from the SMP program.
 
ericksonj15 said:
I'm officially unsubscribing guys, just got my first MD acceptance after being a reapplicant and getting only 4 interviews and being waitlisted at all 4. Good luck to everyone else on the waitlists and waiting for post-interview decisions! I know it sucks playing the waiting game, but stay optimistic!
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Congrats!!
 
ericksonj15 said:
I'm officially unsubscribing guys, just got my first MD acceptance after being a reapplicant and getting only 4 interviews and being waitlisted at all 4. Good luck to everyone else on the waitlists and waiting for post-interview decisions! I know it sucks playing the waiting game, but stay optimistic!
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Congratulations!

Hopefully, I can get something from the 4 waitlists that I'm on as well.
 
ericksonj15 said:
I'm officially unsubscribing guys, just got my first MD acceptance after being a reapplicant and getting only 4 interviews and being waitlisted at all 4. Good luck to everyone else on the waitlists and waiting for post-interview decisions! I know it sucks playing the waiting game, but stay optimistic!
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Yay!! Congrats! 🙂 :luck:
 
Just received another waitlist letter. Officially waitlisted everywhere I interviewed. 🙁
 
qiyjia said:
Just received another waitlist letter. Officially waitlisted everywhere I interviewed. 🙁
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Sorry to hear that. I think I'll find out about my last interview tomorrow. How many waitlists do you have?
 
Sigh, I don't even know what to say anymore when people ask me about my cycle. I know they mean well but it stings whenever I have to answer that question.
 
TheShaker said:
Sigh, I don't even know what to say anymore when people ask me about my cycle. I know they mean well but it stings whenever I have to answer that question.
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I try to avoid talking about med school apps altogether. It's tough, because everybody in my master's program applying this year has gotten in; it's been fun to listen in on their discussions on how to choose between their multiple acceptances. Then I go volunteer at a local clinic where some of the volunteers have been accepted to top tier medical schools. Then I enjoy the occasional party where I lie about not being pre-med and considering dentistry--that tends to work well.

It's starting to feel like the whole world revolves around med school, and is divided into three distinct categories: pre-meds, doctors, and everybody else.
 
Hang in there everyone! Financial aid is starting to roll out and people are withdrawing from schools. There will be some waitlist movement soon.
 
SilverCat said:
I try to avoid talking about med school apps altogether. It's tough, because everybody in my master's program applying this year has gotten in; it's been fun to listen in on their discussions on how to choose between their multiple acceptances. Then I go volunteer at a local clinic where some of the volunteers have been accepted to top tier medical schools. Then I enjoy the occasional party where I lie about not being pre-med and considering dentistry--that tends to work well.

It's starting to feel like the whole world revolves around med school, and is divided into three distinct categories: pre-meds, doctors, and everybody else.
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Try distancing yourself from that atmosphere. I work in a lab at my initial top choice (rejected post interview) and people ask me all the time...I just give typical answer about waitlists. After work is where I hang with people who are not associated with the medical field at all. It is very relaxing to be around that kind of atmosphere during the cycle.
 
SilverCat said:
I try to avoid talking about med school apps altogether. It's tough, because everybody in my master's program applying this year has gotten in; it's been fun to listen in on their discussions on how to choose between their multiple acceptances. Then I go volunteer at a local clinic where some of the volunteers have been accepted to top tier medical schools. Then I enjoy the occasional party where I lie about not being pre-med and considering dentistry--that tends to work well.

It's starting to feel like the whole world revolves around med school, and is divided into three distinct categories: pre-meds, doctors, and everybody else.
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So feeling the same way. Feeling dejected makes starting my reapp harder.
 
I am looking for some help in deciding what path to take. At this point I flip-flop every day, if not every hour…

The story in brief
-Bad first half of undergrad, went through tough times.
-UW-Madison, Biochemistry, Graduated May 2011, cGPA: 3.45 sGPA: 3.35
-MCAT: 31(11P, 8V, 12 B)
-Research at 3 labs including 1 at UPenn, 4 pubs, 3 poster, 1 oral abstract
-Strong LORs, vast leadership experience in scouting program, eagle scout, BLS instructor, EMT-Intermediate (>5,000 volunteer on call hours), volunteer at LGBT center, currently an FTE at a hospital as a quality analyst.

Applied late and rejected at all but 1 MD school. Waitlisted at UW and ranked ~5 positions greater than where they made it last year.

Accepted at 2 DOs (DMU and CCOM) and Tulane’s SMP- Masters of Pharmacology.
I have current interests in Critical Care Medicine, Interventional Card, and Cardiac Electrophysiology. I am leaning towards EP and desire to keep that option open.

What would you do? I don’t want to really be out another 1-2years and have to reapply, but don’t want to limit EP or Intentional Card b/c I didn’t get into a competitive enough residency. On the other hand I am excited about the program at Tulane, which seems like an awesome program. I was more excited after this acceptance than the DO acceptances, but I just don’t know anymore…Please help!!! and best of luck to anyone on a waitlist. :luck:

I feel like they should add another risk factor for CAD, that being the number of application cycles a premed goes through
 
Sconniemed said:
I am looking for some help in deciding what path to take. At this point I flip-flop every day, if not every hour…

The story in brief
-Bad first half of undergrad, went through tough times.
-UW-Madison, Biochemistry, Graduated May 2011, cGPA: 3.45 sGPA: 3.35
-MCAT: 31(11P, 8V, 12 B)
-Research at 3 labs including 1 at UPenn, 4 pubs, 3 poster, 1 oral abstract
-Strong LORs, vast leadership experience in scouting program, eagle scout, BLS instructor, EMT-Intermediate (>5,000 volunteer on call hours), volunteer at LGBT center, currently an FTE at a hospital as a quality analyst.

Applied late and rejected at all but 1 MD school. Waitlisted at UW and ranked ~5 positions greater than where they made it last year.

Accepted at 2 DOs (DMU and CCOM) and Tulane's SMP- Masters of Pharmacology.
I have current interests in Critical Care Medicine, Interventional Card, and Cardiac Electrophysiology. I am leaning towards EP and desire to keep that option open.

What would you do? I don't want to really be out another 1-2years and have to reapply, but don't want to limit EP or Intentional Card b/c I didn't get into a competitive enough residency. On the other hand I am excited about the program at Tulane, which seems like an awesome program. I was more excited after this acceptance than the DO acceptances, but I just don't know anymore…Please help!!! and best of luck to anyone on a waitlist. :luck:

I feel like they should add another risk factor for CAD, that being the number of application cycles a premed goes through
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Your interests seem pretty specific. EP and interventional cardiology training will probably be a fellowship. I'm not entirely sure if interventional cardiology would follow a Gen. surgery residency or internal medicine (I'm not that familiar with those specialties) but both residencies are very possible to get into with a DO.

On the flip side, the SMP will probably help a lot. Your science GPA is really low, but your MCAT scores compensate for that. I'm not sure how schools view that scenario. You seem like an extremely qualified applicant but your stat blems might be hurting you coupled with the fact that you applied late.
 
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For Cards, you do an IM residency and then a cards fellowship. I don't know how you sub- specialize in interventional cardiology.

In all honesty, it will be difficult to get into cards as a DO, but not impossible (I just finished reading the blog of a DO student who got into a cards fellowship). It's a very competitive field, for sure (yes, I am a ignorant pre- med, but I've been reading up).

On the other hand, if you do an SMP, you will have to wait until the 2015 cycle to take full advantage of the GPA bump that would come from completing the program (this looks like the major weakness of your app). That means you will have to work very hard to get a near perfect GPA; if you blow it, applying to med school will get ten times harder. Plus, it's expensive, and you will lose one year of an attending's salary for waiting.

Just some things to keep in mind if you're considering reapplying.
 
Looked into it and ICards is cardiology not surgery. So yeah, it would be IM -> cards fellowship-> and then another year of Icards to sub specialise. I agree cards is really competitive but I don't think it matters if you have a DO at that point. If he/she is good enough to get into cards as an MD you can probably pull it off as a DO as well.
 
SilverCat said:
For Cards, you do an IM residency and then a cards fellowship. I don't know how you sub- specialize in interventional cardiology.

In all honesty, it will be difficult to get into cards as a DO, but not impossible (I just finished reading the blog of a DO student who got into a cards fellowship). It's a very competitive field, for sure (yes, I am a ignorant pre- med, but I've been reading up).

On the other hand, if you do an SMP, you will have to wait until the 2015 cycle to take full advantage of the GPA bump that would come from completing the program (this looks like the major weakness of your app). That means you will have to work very hard to get a near perfect GPA; if you blow it, applying to med school will get ten times harder. Plus, it's expensive, and you will lose one year of an attending's salary for waiting.

Just some things to keep in mind if you're considering reapplying.
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jlescher said:
Looked into it and ICards is cardiology not surgery. So yeah, it would be IM -> cards fellowship-> and then another year of Icards to sub specialise. I agree cards is really competitive but I don't think it matters if you have a DO at that point. If he/she is good enough to get into cards as an MD you can probably pull it off as a DO as well.
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Thanks for the input! I have done some more digging as well. I found this report, very useful. http://www.nrmp.org/data/resultsanddatasms2013.pdf
It seems it might be harder, but maybe not impossible. Are there any residents/attendings out there that might know a bit more?
 
Hey guys (and girls),

Non-trad applicant here. I interviewed at my top three choices, was rejected by one and wait listed at two others. I am still trying to figure out where the application process went wrong. I got a 34 on the MCAT and had a 3.9 sGPA (cGPA was under 3.5, but my post-bacc GPA was 4.0).

At every school, I felt like I had one great interview and one so-so interview. I keep racking my brain to try and remember if I said or did anything really dumb in my interviews.

I had good clinical experience, did some research (no pubs or posters though), and had some other good leadership/EC's.

Anyway, I am freaking out about where I will be next fall. Luckily, my landlord and boss have been pretty flexible to accommodate me.

When it comes to having to answer questions about your app status, I know that feel, bro. Two of my professors ask me about my app almost every time I see them, which is often. I have prepared myself for the reality of reapplying, but I am hoping I get some good news before mid-May so I can stop stressing about writing another PS and gathering more LOR's.

Thanks for letting me vent. 😳
 
That sudden sinking feeling you get when you realize that the decision you are holding out hope for is likely a waitlist or rejection...
 
drscholls said:
That sudden sinking feeling you get when you realize that the decision you are holding out hope for is likely a waitlist or rejection...
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I can kind of relate that to where I am now. I'm on 1 waitlist which is the only thing standing between me and reapplication, and I get a nice sinking feeling when I see someone else on SDN on the same waitlist but with a much stronger application, because it's almost certain they come off the waitlist before me.
 
tarheel1408 said:
I can kind of relate that to where I am now. I'm on 1 waitlist which is the only thing standing between me and reapplication, and I get a nice sinking feeling when I see someone else on SDN on the same waitlist but with a much stronger application, because it's almost certain they come off the waitlist before me.
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If it makes you feel any better, I don't think app. strength matters a whole lot at this point. This applies to the whole cycle as well. Once you are in the "pool of consideration" it seems pretty random. The director of admissions at UCSD told me an interesting tid bit the other day that kind of confirms this. He said people who are at the top of the WL some times don't get in and those who are a long shot get in some times, so I wouldn't worry about it too much. Just keep expressing interest.
 
Sconniemed said:
Thanks for the input! I have done some more digging as well. I found this report, very useful. http://www.nrmp.org/data/resultsanddatasms2013.pdf
It seems it might be harder, but maybe not impossible. Are there any residents/attendings out there that might know a bit more?
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It doesn't really seem that competitive 467 MD applied 418 Matched. Those seem like pretty good odds. There were also 33 DOs matched but it doesn't say how many DOs applied.
 
Sconniemed said:
Thanks for the input! I have done some more digging as well. I found this report, very useful. http://www.nrmp.org/data/resultsanddatasms2013.pdf
It seems it might be harder, but maybe not impossible. Are there any residents/attendings out there that might know a bit more?
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Here is a thread I've been following a bit that could have an answer for you. I haven't read all the posts, so I'm not sure if that question is addressed within the thread or not, but the OP seems quite helpful and might be responsive to a PM.
 
LadyPengCat said:
Here is a thread I've been following a bit that could have an answer for you. I haven't read all the posts, so I'm not sure if that question is addressed within the thread or not, but the OP seems quite helpful and might be responsive to a PM.[/QUOTE

Post #24 pretty much covers OP's path to success.
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