2012-2013 Panic Thread

[nabilesmail]

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II!!!

WOOHOO! Sent a letter of interest beginning January, was complete September. This is for Jefferson Btw!

 

[physiologist]

II!!!

WOOHOO! Sent a letter of interest beginning January, was complete September. This is for Jefferson Btw!

NIIICE! Any news from Einstein or Hofstra?

 

[nabilesmail]

Thanks!!

not yet, will find out whether I was rejected or waitlisted at Hofstra in 1-2 weeks (I wasn't accepted, but there is HUGE waitlist movement at Hofstra, more than half the class comes from the waitlist. so really hoping for a waitlist there).

My einstein interview is April 12th and my Jefferson is April 3rd. Gonna try and schedule Jefferson to be a bit closer to einstein to save on fares

WOOHOO another chance

 

[Arbor Vitae]

Haha dude...if you read my earlier posts you would realize that I am MORE than ready to be done with this and move on. And, NOTHING makes me think I'll get an II!....nothing at all...quite the contrary...I have no false hope of getting one...I'm not stupid. I'm just trying to see whether or not there's actually a prayer or not, because this last decision is, realistically, the only thing between me and moving on with figuring out my future...but I don't want to jump the gun on that whole moving on and changing the course of my life thing. And I know that 1/3 statistic already. And yes, if I were going to do the medical school applications thing a third time I realize I should already be getting ready, obviously. BUT screw that noise! Time for something new (AKA Grad school) if UVM doesn't give me an II.

Sometimes moving on is what makes the difference. I was waitlisted after 5 interviews the first time I applied. I felt like I waisted so much of my family's money. I was just so burnt out on the process that I completely gave up on medicine. I held a job for a while and went back to school for a master's, and I never really even planned on going back to medicine. It wasn't until during my master's when I realized I could take another swing at it. Taking that break allowed me to just take my mind off it and get refreshed and motivated again. Plus all the time allowed me to mature and gain worldly experience. Moving on with my life developed me into the person that was able to get motivated again, reapply and get accepted. Sometimes a new perspective is what it takes.

 

[NCMED101]

You're going to rock the interview, don't worry. You've got a good attitude.

As for me, I'm getting depressed over a paper about depression...

...and I'm usually a really happy, optimistic, upbeat person. I don't know about you, but I guess I don't like watching my future disintegrate right in front of me 🙁

EDIT: Rejected at Penn State today. My hope is dwindling.

Don't get me wrong, I was fairly upset and depressed from mid December (when I got my post interview rejection from top choice) till mid February. However, I realized that beating myself up about it won't help and I needed to learn from my mistakes and fix them before next cycle.

Look at the positives, you got 4+ interviews after applying late. Therefore there is nothing substantially damaging with your application. Your problem is likely something that can be fixed in a short amount of time (essays/interviewing skills). You may still get in this cycle, but don't beat yourself up if you don't. Look at it this way, you get an extra year off from the craziness of med school/residency and you can make the most of it. I am certainly planning my dream of traveling Europe next year if I don't get in this cycle. Helps with the panic 🙂

 

[physiologist]

Don't get me wrong, I was fairly upset and depressed from mid December (when I got my post interview rejection from top choice) till mid February. However, I realized that beating myself up about it won't help and I needed to learn from my mistakes and fix them before next cycle.

Look at the positives, you got 4+ interviews after applying late. Therefore there is nothing substantially damaging with your application. Your problem is likely something that can be fixed in a short amount of time (essays/interviewing skills). You may still get in this cycle, but don't beat yourself up if you don't. Look at it this way, you get an extra year off from the craziness of med school/residency and you can make the most of it. I am certainly planning my dream of traveling Europe next year if I don't get in this cycle. Helps with the panic 🙂

As much as I want to take a year off, my parents won't let me. They won't fund my medical education if I do because they are strongly against gap years.

I'm going to try for an SMP.

Do you know of any that accept MCAT over GRE? How about MPH programs? Google isn't helping 🙁

 

[NCMED101]

As much as I want to take a year off, my parents won't let me. They won't fund my medical education if I do because they are strongly against gap years.

I'm going to try for an SMP.

Do you know of any that accept MCAT over GRE? How about MPH programs? Google isn't helping 🙁

Huh, I did not know you were in that situation. You have a GPA which isn't spectacular, but is not low enough for SMP. These programs are also expensive, so you have to be aware of that. I think all traditional SMPs take MCAT, but you should check out each program or contact them.

As far as MPH, everything I read about them makes it seem like they are not particularly useful for MD admissions. Unless, of course, you are interested in MPH, then that is a fine alternative. I think some accept MCAT, you will have to look on the school website or contact them to find out.

My advice would be to talk to your parents about the gap year. Maybe they have a misconception about it? It's a great way to earn some money and experience and have enough free time to pursue other interests.

 

[nabilesmail]

As much as I want to take a year off, my parents won't let me. They won't fund my medical education if I do because they are strongly against gap years.

I'm going to try for an SMP.

Do you know of any that accept MCAT over GRE? How about MPH programs? Google isn't helping 🙁

Don't do the SMP, Don't do the MPH if you definitely do not want it. If you have to reapply (I think you have a good chance of not having to with 4 waitlist) then just work during that year off. Explain to your parents that things didn't work out this cycle but your passionate about medicine and will be applying right away in June and in your time off you'd like to make yourself a better candidate for getting a good research position in medical school by doing fulltime research in your year off or some other BS like that 😛

 

[SandsOfTime]

Sometimes moving on is what makes the difference. I was waitlisted after 5 interviews the first time I applied. I felt like I waisted so much of my family's money. I was just so burnt out on the process that I completely gave up on medicine. I held a job for a while and went back to school for a master's, and I never really even planned on going back to medicine. It wasn't until during my master's when I realized I could take another swing at it. Taking that break allowed me to just take my mind off it and get refreshed and motivated again. Plus all the time allowed me to mature and gain worldly experience. Moving on with my life developed me into the person that was able to get motivated again, reapply and get accepted. Sometimes a new perspective is what it takes.

Yeah...I know exactly what you're saying. The other thing I forgot to mention, though, is that when I first applied during fall of my senior year in college, I got about 99.9% of the way through the first part of the process (AMCAS was done, had my LORs, and all the stuff done for my undergraduate pre-med committee...mock interview, letters, etc), but I never hit submit on my AMCAS application because the pre-med advisors told me I wouldn't be able to get in anywhere, and they were almost definitely right. They said boosting my GPA senior year (which I did, by a bit) and landing a great gap year position (which I also did, although it ended up being two years instead of one) and trying to raise my MCAT score (which I did...though not by as much as I had wanted) would help me get in the next time. And going to medical school right after college had been my ONLY plan...I didn't have a plan B...but I pulled myself up by my bootstraps and figured it out, and ended up having one of the most awesome experiences over the past two years, at the place I currently work. I've attended awesome conferences and gotten involved in and passionate about the field of personalized genetic medicine. So, with all my experience and some improvements to my numbers, I thought I had more of a chance this time around, but clearly that's not going to be the case. C'est la vie. Now, faced with a potentially clean slate ahead of me...for the SECOND time...I'm ready to try going in a different direction. I've had my time already to mature and gain that worldly experience. So now, I'm open to anything, including maybe deciding, like you did, that I do want to apply for medical school again after all...I'm not ruling it out completely, but I'm just saying that I don't necessarily expect it to be what I end up wanting, either, after I've tried something else. The further I've gotten through the past four years, the less I've gotten my heart set on a MD...so whatever the future brings, I guess I'll be as ready as I could ever be!

 

[jlescher]

As much as I want to take a year off, my parents won't let me. They won't fund my medical education if I do because they are strongly against gap years.

I'm going to try for an SMP.

Do you know of any that accept MCAT over GRE? How about MPH programs? Google isn't helping 🙁

Most SMPs accept MCAT scores, that's kind of the point of the programs, to take pre-meds. A guy from my lab failed to get an acceptance three times and did the SMP at George Town this past fall. He dropped out after the first semester because he said it was a joke. Reasons being: the the ridicules tuition costs, you don't actually sit in on the med school classes, and there is no guarantee you will be accepted later. However, all programs are different and I'm not saying it's a bad option. Some programs have better med-school acceptance rates than others. You really need to do the research on each SMP. I'm fairly sure Drexel has SMP students taking class with MS1 and a large percentage (I think about 20 students) of the MS1 class were former SMP students. I guess my point being that your parents should be more worried about throwing money away on a fruitless SMP than taking a productive gap year. I realize that money is a large factor in medical education, but you should probably do what's best for you, not what your parents think you should do. Unless they are adcoms, I'd be willing to bet you know more about this processes than your parents. You are about to embark on a 7-11 year schooling commitment and a subsequent career, make your own decisions. Just my opinion.

If your parents have a problem with gap years they are pretty close minded. It completely depends on what you do for a gap year. Research at a legitimate high productivity lab, peace core, ect are all well worth it. Smoking pot and working at the local grocery store, not so good.

Also most MPH application deadlines were Dec 3. That ship has sailed at most schools I've looked at.

 

[imcanadaian]

As much as I want to take a year off, my parents won't let me. They won't fund my medical education if I do because they are strongly against gap years.

I'm going to try for an SMP.

Do you know of any that accept MCAT over GRE? How about MPH programs? Google isn't helping 🙁

Huh, I did not know you were in that situation. You have a GPA which isn't spectacular, but is not low enough for SMP. These programs are also expensive, so you have to be aware of that. I think all traditional SMPs take MCAT, but you should check out each program or contact them.

As far as MPH, everything I read about them makes it seem like they are not particularly useful for MD admissions. Unless, of course, you are interested in MPH, then that is a fine alternative. I think some accept MCAT, you will have to look on the school website or contact them to find out.

My advice would be to talk to your parents about the gap year. Maybe they have a misconception about it? It's a great way to earn some money and experience and have enough free time to pursue other interests.

May I ask why your parents are so against a gap year? Few years ago, I was in the same boat--feeling not 100% ready to apply to school, but pressured and ultimately forced by my parents to give it a shot. I was ill prepared and honestly wasted a lot of time and money in that initial application. Having gone through multiple cycles, and done the "gap year", the "I'll apply immediately after the cycle", and finally the "take a few years off then apply" I can tell you that the gap year(s) for me were super helpful, and something I truly needed to get me where I am today.

For me, my gap year wasn't used to tangibly raise my stats or anything--I took a few classes here or there, but my GPA was basically static. I also re-took the MCAT, but that's more because my score had expired from the first time I took it 😛 For me, the gap year was a chance for me to take a step away from the craziness that is being a college pre-med, get into the "real" world, and a time where all of a sudden, I had to make conscious decisions and choices to pursue activities and opportunities that helped me pursue med school. Trying to work fulltime, support yourself, AND adding on things like volunteering, classes, shadowing, research--it's HARD. It will test you and I think through this, if you can come out on top, your application will be stronger, but tangibly in your list of accomplishments, but also intangibly in developing your character and perspective on the journey you're going to take to become a doctor. And heck, post-college life working fulltime is great. You can have some disposable income, make some money, and attempt to to save up for applications/school!

 

[physiologist]

May I ask why your parents are so against a gap year? Few years ago, I was in the same boat--feeling not 100% ready to apply to school, but pressured and ultimately forced by my parents to give it a shot. I was ill prepared and honestly wasted a lot of time and money in that initial application. Having gone through multiple cycles, and done the "gap year", the "I'll apply immediately after the cycle", and finally the "take a few years off then apply" I can tell you that the gap year(s) for me were super helpful, and something I truly needed to get me where I am today.

For me, my gap year wasn't used to tangibly raise my stats or anything--I took a few classes here or there, but my GPA was basically static. I also re-took the MCAT, but that's more because my score had expired from the first time I took it 😛 For me, the gap year was a chance for me to take a step away from the craziness that is being a college pre-med, get into the "real" world, and a time where all of a sudden, I had to make conscious decisions and choices to pursue activities and opportunities that helped me pursue med school. Trying to work fulltime, support yourself, AND adding on things like volunteering, classes, shadowing, research--it's HARD. It will test you and I think through this, if you can come out on top, your application will be stronger, but tangibly in your list of accomplishments, but also intangibly in developing your character and perspective on the journey you're going to take to become a doctor. And heck, post-college life working fulltime is great. You can have some disposable income, make some money, and attempt to to save up for applications/school!

For me, the gap year was a chance for me to take a step away from the craziness that is being a college pre-med, get into the "real" world, and a time where all of a sudden, I had to make conscious decisions and choices to pursue activities and opportunities that helped me pursue med school. Trying to work fulltime, support yourself, AND adding on things like volunteering, classes, shadowing, research--it's HARD.

See, this is exactly what I want if I don't get into MD. I'd love to write a novel, and I probably could because my fiancé got a cushy job and we plan to move in together. (Though I really don't want to fall into the Stay At Home Mom trap like my mom did... she regrets it so much). Problem is I'm Canadian. I've always wanted to move to the US, and hoped to for MD. Now that I'm thinking of gap year options I realized that getting a job in the US would be difficult for me as a Canadian citizen.

My fiancé and I plan to have our wedding sooner if I don't get into MD to speed up the process of me becoming a PR. Should I just contact random labs? Do I need to boost my GPA or do you think as a PR I'll have a better shot at MD. Should I retake my 31? I'm actually considering using the SN2ed schedule that I had no idea when I initially took the MCAT. Thoughts?

Also: Re: SMP. My family is very wealthy, so supporting my SMP won't be too much of a problem save for the fact that I just won't aim for the MD/MPH track as I'd initially hoped. I think boosting my sGPA would be a good thing. However, they did say they'd cut me off if I take a gap year!

 

[SandsOfTime]

Just about to post my update letter to UVM's online applicant center...

"We have reviewed your application and regret to inform you that we cannot act favorably on your request for admission during the 2012-2013 admissions cycle.

Each year, the University of Vermont College of Medicine receives many more applications from individuals wanting to attend than we have spaces for in the first year class. The strength of our applicants continues to increase, making the job of final selection a challenging one.

We encourage you to consult with your pre-medical advisor or career counselor for assistance in evaluation of your file and the appropriate next steps.

We appreciate your interest in the University of Vermont College of Medicine and wish you the best in the future."

AND THAT'S ALL SHE WROTE FOLKS! See you in Grad school.

 

[NCMED101]

Just about to post my update letter to UVM's online applicant center...

"We have reviewed your application and regret to inform you that we cannot act favorably on your request for admission during the 2012-2013 admissions cycle.

Each year, the University of Vermont College of Medicine receives many more applications from individuals wanting to attend than we have spaces for in the first year class. The strength of our applicants continues to increase, making the job of final selection a challenging one.

We encourage you to consult with your pre-medical advisor or career counselor for assistance in evaluation of your file and the appropriate next steps.

We appreciate your interest in the University of Vermont College of Medicine and wish you the best in the future."

AND THAT'S ALL SHE WROTE FOLKS! See you in Grad school.

Sorry to hear that. Are you waiting on any post interview decisions or any interviews left?

 

[physiologist]

Just about to post my update letter to UVM's online applicant center...

"We have reviewed your application and regret to inform you that we cannot act favorably on your request for admission during the 2012-2013 admissions cycle.

Each year, the University of Vermont College of Medicine receives many more applications from individuals wanting to attend than we have spaces for in the first year class. The strength of our applicants continues to increase, making the job of final selection a challenging one.

We encourage you to consult with your pre-medical advisor or career counselor for assistance in evaluation of your file and the appropriate next steps.

We appreciate your interest in the University of Vermont College of Medicine and wish you the best in the future."

AND THAT'S ALL SHE WROTE FOLKS! See you in Grad school.

I'm so sorry to hear that. Best of luck!
It's a shame that medicine is so focused on stats when other factors correlate so much stronger with physician aptitude. Some of the best doctors I know barely got into med school, and strove to do well because they were so grateful they got into MD school after several tries.

It's their loss, honestly. It's a tragedy that so much emphasis is placed on stats. It's also a shame that those with high stats who are doing it for the money also seem to be getting in left and right....

And the worst part is, past 26 MCAT and 3.5 gpa, there isn't even a correlation at all between success in med school and stats.

 

[SandsOfTime]

Sorry to hear that. Are you waiting on any post interview decisions or any interviews left?

Haha...nope. I never even got a single II. All that's left is Tufts and SUNY (silences)...but supposedly SUNY's last interview was yesterday, and Tufts interview schedule is full, so the only II's that will go out for them from this point forward will be if people who already are scheduled for interviews give said interviews up. So basically...goodbye kids, and good luck!

 

[SandsOfTime]

I'm so sorry to hear that. Best of luck!
It's a shame that medicine is so focused on stats when other factors correlate so much stronger with physician aptitude. Some of the best doctors I know barely got into med school, and strove to do well because they were so grateful after several tries.

It's their loss, honestly. It's a target that so much emphasis is placed on stats. It's also a shame that those with high stats who are doing it for the money also seem to be getting in left and right....

And the worst part is, past 26 MCAT and 3.5 gpa, there isn't even touch of a correlation at all between success in med school and stats.

OMG. PRRRREEEEACH. Preach it. THANK YOU, SO MUCH...seriously, physiologist, I really, really needed that...for real <3

GOOD LUCK TO YOU! You are going to be great, no matter what happens! Let's collaborate someday? Haha...I do the genetics research...you help me implement it and then use it for your patients...ready, set, GO!

 

[nabilesmail]

OMG. PRRRREEEEACH. Preach it. THANK YOU, SO MUCH...seriously, physiologist, I really, really needed that...for real <3

GOOD LUCK TO YOU! You are going to be great, no matter what happens! Let's collaborate someday? Haha...I do the genetics research...you help me implement it and then use it for your patients...ready, set, GO!

I shadowed a Carribean doctor and it seemed everyone in the hospital respected him the most. Nurses told me he was a great doctor to shadow and was one of the most knowledgable physicians there. Stats aren't everything :]

 

[physiologist]

OMG. PRRRREEEEACH. Preach it. THANK YOU, SO MUCH...seriously, physiologist, I really, really needed that...for real <3

GOOD LUCK TO YOU! You are going to be great, no matter what happens! Let's collaborate someday? Haha...I do the genetics research...you help me implement it and then use it for your patients...ready, set, GO!

Come to think of it, I could use a gap year job... Do you have any US connections?

 

[jorgediaz]

Come to think of it, I could use a gap year job... Do you have any US connections?

I agree with everyone that a gap year is probably your best option. Do some hardcore volunteering/research to beef up your ECs! If you are OK mooching off your BF/family, then it seems like a good option. Being Canadian is fine too if you aren't getting paid. You'll then have the time to study for the MCAT and take it again next January or whenever.

 

[premed2000]

X

 

[SandsOfTime]

Come to think of it, I could use a gap year job... Do you have any US connections?

Perhaps, why don't you send me a private message with your e-mail address and we can talk? I'm located in Boston, MA FYI.

 

[Sea Otter]

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[physiologist]

Perhaps, why don't you send me a private message with your e-mail address and we can talk? I'm located in Boston, MA FYI.

Done! Thank you so much. Sent you an email. Also, Boston is perfect because that's one of the two cities where my fiancé's job has headquarters and I have tons of family there including a brother!

EDIT: another post-interview rejection from UMaryland. That hurt because it was my favorite! Now I'm up to 3 post-interview rejections and completely losing hope for the 4th one. Am I really that terrible an interviewee? Honestly I'm surprised, I've never had such shoddy luck from interviews before!

 

[jlescher]

My guess is that it has less to do with you and more to do with the fact that you are Canadian. No offense, I like Canadians but based on the fact that most of these schools admit 2 or 3 international students a year the cards are stacked against youMy guess is that it has less to do with you and more to do with the fact that you are Canadian. No offense, I like Canadians but based on the fact that most of these schools admit 2 or 3 international students a year the cards are stacked against you.

 

[physiologist]

My guess is that it has less to do with you and more to do with the fact that you are Canadian. No offense, I like Canadians but based on the fact that most of these schools admit 2 or 3 international students a year the cards are stacked against youMy guess is that it has less to do with you and more to do with the fact that you are Canadian. No offense, I like Canadians but based on the fact that most of these schools admit 2 or 3 international students a year the cards are stacked against you.

They said Canadians are seen as OOS. And they wouldn't interview me for a program they didn't want me for....right?

 

[jlescher]

I had two OOS interviews and I've thought about this a lot. The conclusion I came to is that schools probably do want you to some degree but I assume there is a spectrum. Just because they interview you doesn't mean they are ecstatic to have you. Maybe they are, but this would depend on the applicant. Just based on the numbers for Maryland last year, MSAR says they interviewed 11 international students and 1 matriculated. That means that maybe they offered 2 or 3 spots which is much lower than the number of offers they extend to US OOS applicants. You may be viewed as an OOS applicant but that doesn't necessarily mean the adcom isn't subconsciously bias on some level. The stats seem to indicate they are.

A lot of schools base their admissions on a rubric. If you hit a certain number you are admitted. Likewise, if you reach a certain threshold they will interview you. Just because you received an interview, doesn't mean you are on an even playing field with everyone else. I don't mean to be harsh at all, this is just what I've come to realize through my experiences this cycle. At the beginning I figured if I got an interview then the decision would be solely based on my interview but I think that is far from the reality of the situation.

 

[CriticalCond]

Is anyone else getting congratulated on waitlists by friends and family? I don't have the time or energy to panic any more, I just have to keep on moving to the next thing, but I'm never sure what my response should be when I tell people I got waitlisted at all the schools I was waiting to hear from and they (non-sarcastically) say, "congratulations!"

Generally I respond with something along the lines of: thanks, just glad it's not a rejection. But that seems really self-deprecating.

 

[physiologist]

I had two OOS interviews and I've thought about this a lot. The conclusion I came to is that schools probably do want you to some degree but I assume there is a spectrum. Just because they interview you doesn't mean they are ecstatic to have you. Maybe they are, but this would depend on the applicant. Just based on the numbers for Maryland last year, MSAR says they interviewed 11 international students and 1 matriculated. That means that maybe they offered 2 or 3 spots which is much lower than the number of offers they extend to US OOS applicants. You may be viewed as an OOS applicant but that doesn't necessarily mean the adcom isn't subconsciously bias on some level. The stats seem to indicate they are.

A lot of schools base their admissions on a rubric. If you hit a certain number you are admitted. Likewise, if you reach a certain threshold they will interview you. Just because you received an interview, doesn't mean you are on an even playing field with everyone else. I don't mean to be harsh at all, this is just what I've come to realize through my experiences this cycle. At the beginning I figured if I got an interview then the decision would be solely based on my interview but I think that is far from the reality of the situation.

Yeah but they almost always grant wait-lists post interview. If you get an actual rejection, doesn't that mean you REALLY messed up the interview?

 

[jlescher]

Yeah but they almost always grant wait-lists post interview. If you get an actual rejection, doesn't that mean you REALLY messed up the interview?

Yeah, then I'm not sure. I wouldn't beat your self up over it because I would still be willing to bet it had a lot to do with your citizenship.

1: Maybe you didn't screw it up. Maybe they gave you a shot and you didn't blow them out of the water.

2: They probably won't give you the spot over a US applicant so they didn't want to string you along and WL you.

From what I have seen on SDN regarding Canadian applicants, it seems that you are at a disadvantage. It seems like Canadians consistently struggle to matriculate in US MD programs.

 

[theherowedeserv]

waitlisted 2 out of 4 schools.

instate top 1/3.
oos - hold kind of

maybe because i applied and interviewed so late?

ORM

 

[hallowmann]

Yeah but they almost always grant wait-lists post interview. If you get an actual rejection, doesn't that mean you REALLY messed up the interview?

Don't forget that it's late in the cycle, and even waitlists have a limit to the number of applicants that schools put on them. Obviously that varies significantly by school, but I'm sure it has an effect.

If I were you, I would refine my interview skills, but also know they weren't necessarily what the problem was here. Schools accept anywhere between 10% and 35% of there interviewees. I highly doubt that the remaining 65-90% (numbers in the hundreds per school) all bombed their interviews or were placed on waitlists.

 

[Daodejing]

Don't forget that it's late in the cycle, and even waitlists have a limit to the number of applicants that schools put on them. Obviously that varies significantly by school, but I'm sure it has an effect.

If I were you, I would refine my interview skills, but also know they weren't necessarily what the problem was here. Schools accept anywhere between 10% and 35% of there interviewees. I highly doubt that the remaining 65-90% (numbers in the hundreds per school) all bombed their interviews or were placed on waitlists.

10-35% is a rather low approximation..

 

[type12]

Don't forget that it's late in the cycle, and even waitlists have a limit to the number of applicants that schools put on them. Obviously that varies significantly by school, but I'm sure it has an effect.

If I were you, I would refine my interview skills, but also know they weren't necessarily what the problem was here. Schools accept anywhere between 10% and 35% of there interviewees. I highly doubt that the remaining 65-90% (numbers in the hundreds per school) all bombed their interviews or were placed on waitlists.

Think this applies to people who received zero interviews too? Was very late in my application (Oct-Nov).

 

[Sea Otter]

10-35% is a rather low approximation..

I think that approximation is pretty accurate. Most of the schools I've interviewed at accept around 30% of their interviewees and then you have the super-selective schools like Harvard and Wash U that accept less than 10%.

 

[Mako555]

I think that approximation is pretty accurate. Most of the schools I've interviewed at accept around 30% of their interviewees and then you have the super-selective schools like Harvard and Wash U that accept less than 10%.

no, its not accurate. most schools are almost exactly 50%. Harvard is around 15-20%. Definitely not less than 10%.

 

[jorgediaz]

no, its not accurate. most schools are almost exactly 50%. Harvard is around 15-20%. Definitely not less than 10%.

Nope, most schools are around 1 in 3.

 

[jlescher]

no, its not accurate. most schools are almost exactly 50%. Harvard is around 15-20%. Definitely not less than 10%.

True dat!

Most school accept 30-40% initially and after WL acceptances it's around 50%. A lot of schools over-enroll their class by almost twice the class size. Matriculant numbers (i.e. the 10-20% numbers) are only a fraction of those accepted.

 

[jeffreylei]

Most of the school that I interviewed at were approx. 20-50%

 

[xffan624]

I think that approximation is pretty accurate. Most of the schools I've interviewed at accept around 30% of their interviewees and then you have the super-selective schools like Harvard and Wash U that accept less than 10%.

Not universal though, U of Florida said they ultimately accepted 70% of their interviewees either initially or off the waitlist.

 

[sinombre]

17th rejection today

 

[doctorwho101]

17th rejection today

God, I'm there too. I kind of want to stop counting, cause it's such a high number.

 

[jeffreylei]

I am waiting for the last 2 schools with their post-interview decision...This is so painful 🙁

 

[MiracleforMD]

Finally have an acceptance after 2 years and 40+ rejections. Good luck to everyone else. I know how much the process sucks. Taking a break from SDN until maybe Step 1 for studying tips.

Peace.

 

[chillaxbro]

Summary of my cycle
14 secondaries
10 pre-interview rejections
4 II
3 post-interview rejections
Waiting on this last school. My interviewer didn't seem too happy so I'll probably have to reapply next cycle 🙁

 

[physiologist]

Summary of my cycle
14 secondaries
10 pre-interview rejections
4 II
3 post-interview rejections
Waiting on this last school. My interviewer didn't seem too happy so I'll probably have to reapply next cycle 🙁

I'm in exactly the same boat as you right now. It's nice to know I'm not alone. Sometimes being on SDN too much can disillusion you into thinking that post-interview rejections don't exist.

Also, my last 2 schools accept over just over 50% of interviewees outright.

 

[askamsky51]

Accepted today. Panic over.


For those of you who need inspiration: 3ii, 1 hold, 1 priority WL (upgraded from normal WL) and finally one acceptance.

3.44cGPA 31P

 

[physiologist]

Accepted today. Panic over.


For those of you who need inspiration: 3ii, 1 hold, 1 priority WL (upgraded from normal WL) and finally one acceptance.

3.44cGPA 31P

:O

What school?? Also, any advice in how to rock an interview despite a meh gpa?

 

[askamsky51]

OHSU (so it is my state school). I had a life event that dropped my GPA, so the justification helped.

As far as interviewing goes, I am just kind of a talker. I was just honest, and attacked my shortcomings up front (if I could use the topic being discussed as a Segway).

 

[cinamin]

OHSU (so it is my state school). I had a life event that dropped my GPA, so the justification helped.

As far as interviewing goes, I am just kind of a talker. I was just honest, and attacked my shortcomings up front (if I could use the topic being discussed as a Segway).

congrats that is an awesome school and i totally feel for all the underdogs here!!!!!