2020-2021 Pain Fellowship Interview Thread

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some general emails after the interview. generic stuff like we hope you consider strongly, great candidate etc. One phone call to my program director. no personal calls.
 
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You sure you wanna move to baltimore or NYC right now? LOLOL
I’m at a program in NYC and everything here is fine. Procedure load is good too. Lots of stuff got backed up during quarantine so we’ve got plenty to do.
 
Yeah i was asking a specific question though. Are they sure they want to MOVE to baltimore or nyc any time soon. 2 places to live right now which are becoming more unsafe every day
 
I’m at a program in NYC and everything here is fine. Procedure load is good too. Lots of stuff got backed up during quarantine so we’ve got plenty to do.
Also, how can procedure load be “good” when elective surgery volume is down so much in NYC?
 
@Peterluger Let me get you up to speed. It’s an unwritten SDN law that trolling to this degree is to be kept in the pre-med forums. We get it-you don’t think people should want go to NYC for training. But alas, people do and will.
We all appreciate your concern. Enjoy your fellowship...in NYC.

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Also, how can procedure load be “good” when elective surgery volume is down so much in NYC?
Elective surgery volume isn’t down though... if anything it seems even higher than pre-covid because of all the cases that stacked up during quarantine. Do you have evidence to back any of this up or are you just butt hurt that you didn’t match last year and trying to trash NYC programs? As far as the city being unsafe, I don’t know a single person who has felt unsafe living here.
 
For the dude/gal that said Michigan is in his/her top 3 don't do it. I had buddies that just graduated from that program. Were not big fans of it. Very little stim and pump exposure with lots of patient phone calls to deal with.

Also yea, I'd ignore Peterlugar. Don't know what his/her deal is, New York programs are fine. I have buddies that just finished from Cornell, Columbia, and Mount Sinai. Some minor impact with procedural volume but overall were happy with their training and had plenty of numbers even with COVID. Know someone at Cornell right now that is really liking it. It's not just NY. COVID is affecting procedural volume pretty much everywhere but you'll still get your numbers and you don't need a 1000 interlams etc. to be good. Best of luck guys.
 
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Elective surgery volume isn’t down though... if anything it seems even higher than pre-covid because of all the cases that stacked up during quarantine. Do you have evidence to back any of this up or are you just butt hurt that you didn’t match last year and trying to trash NYC programs? As far as the city being unsafe, I don’t know a single person who has felt unsafe living here.
the only person who sounds upset or “butthurt” is you. Im currently a fellow in the NY metropolitan area, and yes, volume is down. I know because I have a reference point from pre-covid. Ask any of the reps you work with regarding how many stims they’re selling. And just because your naive friends from the Midwest who thought it would be “fun” to move to NYC right now weren’t victims of crime, it doesn’t detract from the reality of the situation.
There are some people who actually HAVE options in terms of fellowship and don’t have to go to Baltimore or NYC for fellowship. There are others who really don’t have that option. In either case, one can’t make haphazard decisions, especially based on emotional responses like what you gave them. People lie, data doesn’t.

 
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For the dude/gal that said Michigan is in his/her top 3 don't do it. I had buddies that just graduated from that program. Were not big fans of it. Very little stim and pump exposure with lots of patient phone calls to deal with.

Also yea, I'd ignore Peterlugar. Don't know what his/her deal is, New York programs are fine. I have buddies that just finished from Cornell, Columbia, and Mount Sinai. Some minor impact with procedural volume but overall were happy with their training and had plenty of numbers even with COVID. Know someone at Cornell right now that is really liking it. It's not just NY. COVID is affecting procedural volume pretty much everywhere but you'll still get your numbers and you don't need a 1000 interlams etc. to be good. Best of luck guys.
For what it’s worth, New England volume is down. ESI, MBBs, RFs etc continue, but definitely stims, pumps, advanced stuff is way down. Looking for pain jobs and it is rough. I’d be lying if I said I wasn’t disappointed, at the end of the day, if I can get a pain job ill be happy.
 
the only person who sounds upset or “butthurt” is you. Im currently a fellow in the NY metropolitan area, and yes, volume is down. I know because I have a reference point from pre-covid. Ask any of the reps you work with regarding how many stims they’re selling. And just because your naive friends from the Midwest who thought it would be “fun” to move to NYC right now weren’t victims of crime, it doesn’t detract from the reality of the situation.
There are some people who actually HAVE options in terms of fellowship and don’t have to go to Baltimore or NYC for fellowship. There are others who really don’t have that option. In either case, one can’t make haphazard decisions, especially based on emotional responses like what you gave them. People lie, data doesn’t.

Yeah clearly your responses aren't emotional🤣. Who's more butthurt, the guy that made two posts about his actual experiences, or the guy who didn't match who's made dozens of posts bashing NYC programs for no apparent reason. All I know is at my program the numbers are fine and are picking up if anything. I have plenty of advanced cases under my belt. Also most of the people I know here are from here not the midwest? Also, NYC was a relatively safe city to begin with per capita wise and crime is up all over the country so your statistics about crime being up don't hold any water unless compared per capita to other parts of the country...
 
For what it’s worth, New England volume is down. ESI, MBBs, RFs etc continue, but definitely stims, pumps, advanced stuff is way down. Looking for pain jobs and it is rough. I’d be lying if I said I wasn’t disappointed, at the end of the day, if I can get a pain job ill be happy.
Yea unfortunately volume is down at most/all places cause of Ortho and Neurosurg (being your biggest referral base) having to shut down their elective procedures as well. It's all ramping back up though. In terms of jobs yea it is going to be a longer process this year to find one. If you're set on a certain location may be tougher. If you're flexible in terms of location there are still plenty of job openings. Just have to be more aggressive and pick up the phone and cold call practices if you're set on one location rather than relying on emails, postings, and recruiters.
 
Yeah clearly your responses aren't emotional🤣. Who's more butthurt, the guy that made two posts about his actual experiences, or the guy who didn't match who's made dozens of posts bashing NYC programs for no apparent reason. All I know is at my program the numbers are fine and are picking up if anything. I have plenty of advanced cases under my belt. Also most of the people I know here are from here not the midwest? Also, NYC was a relatively safe city to begin with per capita wise and crime is up all over the country so your statistics about crime being up don't hold any water unless compared per capita to other parts of the country...
Thanks bro. Yea I'm not butt hurt whatsoever lol. Just finished fellowship and in my first pain job and loving it. Don't get the NYC bashing either. Wouldn't listen to that noise.
 
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So in theory are the match results are pretty much in? we are just in a holding pattern for some unclear reason to me for two weeks?

match results were completed probably at 9:00:02 last night. Idk why we have to wait... but at least we just need to wait for 2 weeks i guess.

Do programs and applicants both find out at the same time?
 
I think the two week period is because they compile all the data and create those match results statistics that they release at the same time.
The match itself only takes 1 second to compile. You’d think they could send that out and follow up with the stats and data afterwards.. I think it’s just a power move more than anything.