lets have this convo in mid July. it's not over yet
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No. Even top schools will likely have a few changes ahead as CTE deadlines approach. Higher ranked schools typically have less movement and lower ranked schools have more movement. As we get closer to those CTE dates, people are going to finalize their school and more spots will open up elsewhere. I don't know of any schools (probably some though) that require CTE this early. Many are in June and early July.
the only chance is there are still people holding multiple As... AAMC traffic rules are a joke there should be something strictly implanted like if people still holding multiple As after 11:59pm on 4/30 get all of their Acceptances rescinded automatically
No, people get off waitlists at their top schools vacate their spot.
no no no please refer to the post above @babygreenbeans speculates the majority of the school has been in full size, if so, hwo do people get off waitlist at their top schools? everywhere is full unless someone defers
probablyneedassistance
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I don't think they are all full. Both of my state schools just had movement. Some people prioritize IS tuition, location, etc. over rank, so I think it's likely that as lower ranked schools continue to have movement, you'll still see at least some shifting across the board.
Maybe I would upload it to the portal but then just email them saying you wanted to double check that it uploaded to the portal correctly to bring attention to it, that’s what I do at least 😆
What is supposed to happen at 5 PM?
Cocktails.
5pm is end of business hours... or to me, the time that I can stop checking my email every 30 mins, lurking on SDN for WL movement, and start drinking....
personally its frozen margarita time for me but cocktails sounds good too gyngyn
So does a bleach on the rocks
(Half kidding)
How long after 4/30 would you typically wait before pulling the plug? (I assume it's at least 2 weeks! 🙂) -- Why so generous, given how stressful the process is for everyone on a WL, and how inconsiderate it is for anyone to just ignore a deadline and not even reach out, let alone fail to respond to you when asked? In hindsight, does your adcom really still want this person to be in your class?
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There is no compelling reason to act until the depletion of overage is approached.
It wouldn't help waitlisters (or us) to do so.
Well.. it would help deplete the overage by one. 🙂
It really is very generous of you to indulge this person, although I'm sure you are correct and it won't make a bit of difference all the way around. S/he has most likely made plans elsewhere and just doesn't care about your deadline, and since you're not calling from the WL, it makes no difference to you that you haven't received an response.
on the other hand i think DO school is doing a good job, one school that i forgot to withdraw before the deposit deadline rescinded my acceptance right in the morning of the due day
Okay, but that's a little different because DO deposits are significantly higher than MD ones, and they just selfishly didn't want to allow you to tie up a seat since you didn't give them the money they wanted. I'm not sure that qualifies as "doing a good job"! 🙂
think about it from the other way, if they really want that money why wouldn't wait until the other day later for a chance that I would pay? it is not uncommon people pay their due right on that date, but here this school rescinded my acceptance in the morning like 8am on the due day not even after it
How long did you hold the A without paying the deposit before they pulled the plug? I'm sure they did really want the money, but, through years of experience, correctly ascertained that you would not be giving it to them, since you neither paid the deposit nor asked for an extension, so they pulled the plug on you so they could collect a deposit from someone on the WL.
30 days if no more than that and this happened last year in December when the school didn't even extend enough As for the full class so it is not about WL
I was going to start mine tomorrow...as for submitting it I’m not really sure! Amcas said you can start submitting May 28th
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I started rewriting last week, but mainly because I'm 100% sure that my activity descriptions kept me out of this cycle. They sounded like I was reading off my resume... oof.
Started last week re-writing essays and such I was thinking of having everything done to start submitting primaries at the beginning of June
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If I'm applying to all new schools, do they still consider me a reapplicant since it's my second primary app?
Depends on the school. Some ask have you ever applied to their school specifically, others ask if you’ve applied to medical school generally.
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Wonderful! Thanks.
Then it just goes to show that it was all about the Benjamins for them. You didn't send them money and they just moved on.
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that was such a nice email!! Crossing fingers for you!
In general, is waitlist movement a week behind 2019?
It's an interesting thought, however, I would think it would be the opposite. Like if you had no PTE you would basically guarantee going to their school so it would increase their matriculation rate. But then again I am not sure. I have had two schools reach out to me and I am PTEd elsewhere. so it could be either way! I just want all of you without acceptances to ge into one of your choices!!! This process is so brutal and I want everyone to suceed. Crossing my fingers for y'all.
ThePinkLight
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After 6 months on 1 waitlist, I finally got the acceptance email today!!!! Prior to my A, I felt a wide range of emotions from depression to guilt, but I sat down with myself, and decided that I was going to do the necessary to reapply and come back as a stronger applicant. I changed my state of mind, and approached reapplying with a positive attitude. I scheduled for the MCAT and was about to start studying again at the end of the month... All I'm trying to say is stay positive and keep your heads up everyone!! I know this process is hard, stressful, and comes with so many uncertainties, but there is an A for many of you at the end of this long wait. And if you have to reapply again, keep your heads up and don't give up. You'll get your A, and you'll be a physician. As hard as it may be, try to see the best in every situation and keep on going 😍
As a waitlist alum I wanted to share some thoughts. Now that I have graduated medical school I can confidently say that the agonizing waitlist game was the worst part of the entire process. It was worse than studying for Step 1, the hardest clinical rotations, residency interviews, waiting for Black Monday/Match Day, worse than all of it. The point being, if you can get through this, you can get through anything.
At this point exactly four years ago, I was discouraged beyond discouragement. I don't even like to think about that time. I remember there was one day, maybe in late April or early May? I was convinced that one school where I was waitlisted was going to be releasing acceptances. I don't remember why but I had good reasons. Anyway, my roommate and I went back to our original college dorm to say goodbye to college and I thought that if I was going to open an acceptance email it would be a neat "full circle" moment to do it there. Of course, I didn't get in - but I did open my Facebook to see that one of my pre-med acquaintances did. So that was a hit to my confidence, to say the least. At that point, I gave up hope. I made a new school list, confirmed new letters of recommendation, and wrote a new personal statement. I had a gap year job lined up and I reached the point of acceptance. And lo and behold, after working that job for a few weeks and getting everything lined up for a new cycle, one school finally took a chance on me.
I don't want to disparage the people who got acceptances in November or December and act like mine meant more than theirs. But at the same time...well, I think it instills a different kind of drive in you. I went through so many cycles of hopelessness only to be given the tiniest glimmer of hope, only to go back to hopelessness, only to repeat again and again and again. And when I got to medical school, I was desperate to prove that admitting me was not a mistake. It wasn't always smooth sailing, but at the end of the day I graduated in the top 20% of my class, got an award for academic excellence, published a first author research paper, and I couples matched into a competitive specialty at an institution that's probably the most "prestigious" of all the medical schools I applied to (where I had been swiftly rejected without an interview).
I truly hope from the bottom of my heart that all of you hear good news in the next month or so. It gets better. I am pulling for all of you! Remember what Teddy Roosevelt said: “It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat.”
At this point exactly four years ago, I was discouraged beyond discouragement. I don't even like to think about that time. I remember there was one day, maybe in late April or early May? I was convinced that one school where I was waitlisted was going to be releasing acceptances. I don't remember why but I had good reasons. Anyway, my roommate and I went back to our original college dorm to say goodbye to college and I thought that if I was going to open an acceptance email it would be a neat "full circle" moment to do it there. Of course, I didn't get in - but I did open my Facebook to see that one of my pre-med acquaintances did. So that was a hit to my confidence, to say the least. At that point, I gave up hope. I made a new school list, confirmed new letters of recommendation, and wrote a new personal statement. I had a gap year job lined up and I reached the point of acceptance. And lo and behold, after working that job for a few weeks and getting everything lined up for a new cycle, one school finally took a chance on me.
I don't want to disparage the people who got acceptances in November or December and act like mine meant more than theirs. But at the same time...well, I think it instills a different kind of drive in you. I went through so many cycles of hopelessness only to be given the tiniest glimmer of hope, only to go back to hopelessness, only to repeat again and again and again. And when I got to medical school, I was desperate to prove that admitting me was not a mistake. It wasn't always smooth sailing, but at the end of the day I graduated in the top 20% of my class, got an award for academic excellence, published a first author research paper, and I couples matched into a competitive specialty at an institution that's probably the most "prestigious" of all the medical schools I applied to (where I had been swiftly rejected without an interview).
I truly hope from the bottom of my heart that all of you hear good news in the next month or so. It gets better. I am pulling for all of you! Remember what Teddy Roosevelt said: “It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat.”
U the real MVP
Thank you so so much for sharing. This validated the struggle, we aren’t dramatic or exaggerating this is just a hard, miserable, and almost unbearable thing to be going through and your story confirms that. It is nice to know that struggles like this give a certain tenacity. Like u said, anyone who got into med school achieved something great but I KNOW that all of us in this position have one hell of an edge now w having to endure all of this and tbh this probs gave us a mental toughness that we will carry the rest of our lives. Thanks for the inspiration and CONGRATS ON GETTING TO WHERE YOU ARE TODAY
Honestly I have been having an extremely tough time with this entire process but know that your post really helped me. Thank you so much. I feel the same way about those of us on the waitlist having a different drive. As I grow older, and the more years I spend into trying to get into medical school, the more I know I will absolutely prove my worth once I am in.
I think another thing about this process is that I got off the WL at my choice school last week but it seems like most students already have roommate plans and my now confirmed apartment is only available for move in a month after I have to be in the state - we have to quarantine in the states for two weeks before classes start on July 6 in order to be able to start in person - many apartments around the area also only have late July, August, September move in dates as other leases are filled. I can’t imagine people getting in a week before school starts 🙁
minn#4
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Which medical school starts July 6th??
Wake Forest! Our orientation is 3 weeks long!
abgdoctor807
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After 1 ii in March and 1 WL I finally got the A! Hang in there everyone. This process is brutal and I spent the past 2 days overwhelmed with stress and crying when I went on a run, but good things are coming!!! Sending love to everyone in here for their support
Amazing!!!!! Congrats!!!
Thanks for the encouragement, I would hope so but reality is quickly kicking in. In full re-app mode rn but hoping to be pleasantly surprised
Mitochondria=Powerhouse
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Just made an SDN to contribute to this thread as I sit on 8 WL and have exhausted my email refresh button. 😢
cabbagefacts1
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It’s crazy that this happens! I am beyond grateful to have an acceptance but I am on 9 waitlists and have yet to get off one.
I was on 9 WL's beginning of May. Am lucky enough to have gotten of off two but still on 7 WLs lmfaooooo, this process is big whack
