2020 Cycle Waitlist Support Thread

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No. We have contacted them but no response.
so, in this case, why do you or in general the other schools still keep someone like this on the list instead of rescinding his A? isn't this unfair for us waitlisters? i know this also happens to my top choice and even school has the official deadline 4/30 but they don't enforce it
 
so, in this case, why do you or in general the other schools still keep someone like this on the list instead of rescinding his A? isn't this unfair for us waitlisters? i know this also happens to my top choice and even school has the official deadline 4/30 but they don't enforce it
If they don't respond, we do act...and a single individual has no impact on WL movement.
 
so is waitlist movement basically done lol??? cuz thats what it sounds like...
Take five deep breaths. You are experiencing what experts like to call an overreaction to limited information. Don't worry, it's extremely common and happens to everyone occasionally. The recommended therapy is to RICE: relax, isolate (from SDN or other premed forums), call your mom, and exercise.
 
Take five deep breaths. You are experiencing what experts like to call an overreaction to limited information. Don't worry, it's extremely common and happens to everyone occasionally. The recommended therapy is to RICE: relax, isolate (from SDN or other premed forums), call your mom, and exercise.
Low key this is exactly what I needed to hear right now
This thread always keepin' me sane
 
personally i dont understand how there could be more WL movement. if half of a school's A's are PTE and the other half are CTE, the PTE's aren't going anywhere unless another school has a wave of WL movement. the thing is, the other schools probably also have 50% PTE/ 50% CTE, meaning all the PTE's in the country are essentially only PTE'd because they are hoping for WL movement that is most likely not going to happen......i would like someone to tell me im wrong lol...
lets have this convo in mid July. it's not over yet
 
so is waitlist movement basically done lol??? cuz thats what it sounds like...

No. Even top schools will likely have a few changes ahead as CTE deadlines approach. Higher ranked schools typically have less movement and lower ranked schools have more movement. As we get closer to those CTE dates, people are going to finalize their school and more spots will open up elsewhere. I don't know of any schools (probably some though) that require CTE this early. Many are in June and early July.
 
personally i dont understand how there could be more WL movement. if half of a school's A's are PTE and the other half are CTE, the PTE's aren't going anywhere unless another school has a wave of WL movement. the thing is, the other schools probably also have 50% PTE/ 50% CTE, meaning all the PTE's in the country are essentially only PTE'd because they are hoping for WL movement that is most likely not going to happen......i would like someone to tell me im wrong lol...
the only chance is there are still people holding multiple As... AAMC traffic rules are a joke there should be something strictly implanted like if people still holding multiple As after 11:59pm on 4/30 get all of their Acceptances rescinded automatically
 
the only chance is there are still people holding multiple As... AAMC traffic rules are a joke there should be something strictly implanted like if people still holding multiple As after 11:59pm on 4/30 get all of their Acceptances rescinded automatically
No, people get off waitlists at their top schools vacate their spot.
 
no no no please refer to the post above @babygreenbeans speculates the majority of the school has been in full size, if so, hwo do people get off waitlist at their top schools? everywhere is full unless someone defers

I don't think they are all full. Both of my state schools just had movement. Some people prioritize IS tuition, location, etc. over rank, so I think it's likely that as lower ranked schools continue to have movement, you'll still see at least some shifting across the board.
 
If a school accepts updates via portal is it still okay to email them stating my interest or would that be annoying to them?
 
If a school accepts updates via portal is it still okay to email them stating my interest or would that be annoying to them?
Maybe I would upload it to the portal but then just email them saying you wanted to double check that it uploaded to the portal correctly to bring attention to it, that’s what I do at least 😆
 
5pm is end of business hours... or to me, the time that I can stop checking my email every 30 mins, lurking on SDN for WL movement, and start drinking....

personally its frozen margarita time for me but cocktails sounds good too gyngyn
So does a bleach on the rocks
(Half kidding)
 
5pm is end of business hours... or to me, the time that I can stop checking my email every 30 mins, lurking on SDN for WL movement, and start drinking....

personally its frozen margarita time for me but cocktails sounds good too gyngyn

So does a bleach on the rocks
(Half kidding)

suggestion: a few shots of existential crisis
 
No. We have contacted them but no response.
How long after 4/30 would you typically wait before pulling the plug? (I assume it's at least 2 weeks! 🙂) -- Why so generous, given how stressful the process is for everyone on a WL, and how inconsiderate it is for anyone to just ignore a deadline and not even reach out, let alone fail to respond to you when asked? In hindsight, does your adcom really still want this person to be in your class?
 
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How long after 4/30 would you typically wait before pulling the plug? (I assume it's at least 2 weeks! 🙂) -- Why so generous, given how stressful the process is for everyone on a WL, and how inconsiderate it is for anyone to just ignore a deadline and not even reach out, let alone respond to you when asked? In hindsight, does your adcom really still want this person to be in your class?
There is no compelling reason to act until the depletion of overage is approached.
It wouldn't help waitlisters (or us) to do so.
 
There is no compelling reason to act until the depletion of overage is approached.
It wouldn't help waitlisters (or us) to do so.
Well.. it would help deplete the overage by one. 🙂

It really is very generous of you to indulge this person, although I'm sure you are correct and it won't make a bit of difference all the way around. S/he has most likely made plans elsewhere and just doesn't care about your deadline, and since you're not calling from the WL, it makes no difference to you that you haven't received an response.
 
Well.. it would help deplete the overage by one. 🙂

It really is very generous of you to indulge this person, although I'm sure you are correct and it won't make a bit of difference all the way around. S/he has most likely made plans elsewhere and just doesn't care about your deadline, and since you're not calling from the WL, it makes no difference to you that you haven't received an response.
on the other hand i think DO school is doing a good job, one school that i forgot to withdraw before the deposit deadline rescinded my acceptance right in the morning of the due day
 
on the other hand i think DO school is doing a good job, one school that i forgot to withdraw before the deposit deadline rescinded my acceptance right in the morning of the due day
Okay, but that's a little different because DO deposits are significantly higher than MD ones, and they just selfishly didn't want to allow you to tie up a seat since you didn't give them the money they wanted. I'm not sure that qualifies as "doing a good job"! 🙂
 
Okay, but that's a little different because DO deposits are significantly higher than MD ones, and they just selfishly didn't want to allow you to tie up a seat since you didn't give them the money they wanted. I'm not sure that qualifies as "doing a good job"! 🙂
think about it from the other way, if they really want that money why wouldn't wait until the other day later for a chance that I would pay? it is not uncommon people pay their due right on that date, but here this school rescinded my acceptance in the morning like 8am on the due day not even after it
 
think about it from the other way, if they really want that money why wouldn't wait until the other day later for a chance that I would pay? it is not uncommon people pay their due right on that date, but here this school rescinded my acceptance in the morning like 8am on the due day not even after it
How long did you hold the A without paying the deposit before they pulled the plug? I'm sure they did really want the money, but, through years of experience, correctly ascertained that you would not be giving it to them, since you neither paid the deposit nor asked for an extension, so they pulled the plug on you so they could collect a deposit from someone on the WL.
 
How long did you hold the A without paying the deposit before they pulled the plug? I'm sure they did really want the money, but, through years of experience, correctly ascertained that you would not be giving it to them, since you neither paid the deposit nor asked for an extension, so they pulled the plug on you so they could collect a deposit from someone on the WL.
30 days if no more than that and this happened last year in December when the school didn't even extend enough As for the full class so it is not about WL
 
So when are you guys planning on starting on your reapplication? The thought of rewriting everything and getting everything together again makes me feel sick...
I was going to start mine tomorrow...as for submitting it I’m not really sure! Amcas said you can start submitting May 28th
 
So when are you guys planning on starting on your reapplication? The thought of rewriting everything and getting everything together again makes me feel sick...
I started rewriting last week, but mainly because I'm 100% sure that my activity descriptions kept me out of this cycle. They sounded like I was reading off my resume... oof.
 
So when are you guys planning on starting on your reapplication? The thought of rewriting everything and getting everything together again makes me feel sick...
Started last week re-writing essays and such I was thinking of having everything done to start submitting primaries at the beginning of June
 
If I'm applying to all new schools, do they still consider me a reapplicant since it's my second primary app?
 
If I'm applying to all new schools, do they still consider me a reapplicant since it's my second primary app?

Depends on the school. Some ask have you ever applied to their school specifically, others ask if you’ve applied to medical school generally.
 
30 days if no more than that and this happened last year in December when the school didn't even extend enough As for the full class so it is not about WL
Then it just goes to show that it was all about the Benjamins for them. You didn't send them money and they just moved on.
 
Sent a letter of update to a dean last week so this keeping me going tbh
 

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Kind of a neurotic thought, but... does anyone else wonder if having no acceptances make you a less desirable waitlist applicant? Like a school sees your lack of PTEs and thinks, "if no one else wants them at this point, why should I?"
It's an interesting thought, however, I would think it would be the opposite. Like if you had no PTE you would basically guarantee going to their school so it would increase their matriculation rate. But then again I am not sure. I have had two schools reach out to me and I am PTEd elsewhere. so it could be either way! I just want all of you without acceptances to ge into one of your choices!!! This process is so brutal and I want everyone to suceed. Crossing my fingers for y'all.
 
After 6 months on 1 waitlist, I finally got the acceptance email today!!!! Prior to my A, I felt a wide range of emotions from depression to guilt, but I sat down with myself, and decided that I was going to do the necessary to reapply and come back as a stronger applicant. I changed my state of mind, and approached reapplying with a positive attitude. I scheduled for the MCAT and was about to start studying again at the end of the month... All I'm trying to say is stay positive and keep your heads up everyone!! I know this process is hard, stressful, and comes with so many uncertainties, but there is an A for many of you at the end of this long wait. And if you have to reapply again, keep your heads up and don't give up. You'll get your A, and you'll be a physician. As hard as it may be, try to see the best in every situation and keep on going 😍
 
As a waitlist alum I wanted to share some thoughts. Now that I have graduated medical school I can confidently say that the agonizing waitlist game was the worst part of the entire process. It was worse than studying for Step 1, the hardest clinical rotations, residency interviews, waiting for Black Monday/Match Day, worse than all of it. The point being, if you can get through this, you can get through anything.

At this point exactly four years ago, I was discouraged beyond discouragement. I don't even like to think about that time. I remember there was one day, maybe in late April or early May? I was convinced that one school where I was waitlisted was going to be releasing acceptances. I don't remember why but I had good reasons. Anyway, my roommate and I went back to our original college dorm to say goodbye to college and I thought that if I was going to open an acceptance email it would be a neat "full circle" moment to do it there. Of course, I didn't get in - but I did open my Facebook to see that one of my pre-med acquaintances did. So that was a hit to my confidence, to say the least. At that point, I gave up hope. I made a new school list, confirmed new letters of recommendation, and wrote a new personal statement. I had a gap year job lined up and I reached the point of acceptance. And lo and behold, after working that job for a few weeks and getting everything lined up for a new cycle, one school finally took a chance on me.

I don't want to disparage the people who got acceptances in November or December and act like mine meant more than theirs. But at the same time...well, I think it instills a different kind of drive in you. I went through so many cycles of hopelessness only to be given the tiniest glimmer of hope, only to go back to hopelessness, only to repeat again and again and again. And when I got to medical school, I was desperate to prove that admitting me was not a mistake. It wasn't always smooth sailing, but at the end of the day I graduated in the top 20% of my class, got an award for academic excellence, published a first author research paper, and I couples matched into a competitive specialty at an institution that's probably the most "prestigious" of all the medical schools I applied to (where I had been swiftly rejected without an interview).

I truly hope from the bottom of my heart that all of you hear good news in the next month or so. It gets better. I am pulling for all of you! Remember what Teddy Roosevelt said: “It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat.”
 
As a waitlist alum I wanted to share some thoughts. Now that I have graduated medical school I can confidently say that the agonizing waitlist game was the worst part of the entire process. It was worse than studying for Step 1, the hardest clinical rotations, residency interviews, waiting for Black Monday/Match Day, worse than all of it. The point being, if you can get through this, you can get through anything.

At this point exactly four years ago, I was discouraged beyond discouragement. I don't even like to think about that time. I remember there was one day, maybe in late April or early May? I was convinced that one school where I was waitlisted was going to be releasing acceptances. I don't remember why but I had good reasons. Anyway, my roommate and I went back to our original college dorm to say goodbye to college and I thought that if I was going to open an acceptance email it would be a neat "full circle" moment to do it there. Of course, I didn't get in - but I did open my Facebook to see that one of my pre-med acquaintances did. So that was a hit to my confidence, to say the least. At that point, I gave up hope. I made a new school list, confirmed new letters of recommendation, and wrote a new personal statement. I had a gap year job lined up and I reached the point of acceptance. And lo and behold, after working that job for a few weeks and getting everything lined up for a new cycle, one school finally took a chance on me.

I don't want to disparage the people who got acceptances in November or December and act like mine meant more than theirs. But at the same time...well, I think it instills a different kind of drive in you. I went through so many cycles of hopelessness only to be given the tiniest glimmer of hope, only to go back to hopelessness, only to repeat again and again and again. And when I got to medical school, I was desperate to prove that admitting me was not a mistake. It wasn't always smooth sailing, but at the end of the day I graduated in the top 20% of my class, got an award for academic excellence, published a first author research paper, and I couples matched into a competitive specialty at an institution that's probably the most "prestigious" of all the medical schools I applied to (where I had been swiftly rejected without an interview).

I truly hope from the bottom of my heart that all of you hear good news in the next month or so. It gets better. I am pulling for all of you! Remember what Teddy Roosevelt said: “It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat.”
U the real MVP
 
As a waitlist alum I wanted to share some thoughts. Now that I have graduated medical school I can confidently say that the agonizing waitlist game was the worst part of the entire process. It was worse than studying for Step 1, the hardest clinical rotations, residency interviews, waiting for Black Monday/Match Day, worse than all of it. The point being, if you can get through this, you can get through anything.

At this point exactly four years ago, I was discouraged beyond discouragement. I don't even like to think about that time. I remember there was one day, maybe in late April or early May? I was convinced that one school where I was waitlisted was going to be releasing acceptances. I don't remember why but I had good reasons. Anyway, my roommate and I went back to our original college dorm to say goodbye to college and I thought that if I was going to open an acceptance email it would be a neat "full circle" moment to do it there. Of course, I didn't get in - but I did open my Facebook to see that one of my pre-med acquaintances did. So that was a hit to my confidence, to say the least. At that point, I gave up hope. I made a new school list, confirmed new letters of recommendation, and wrote a new personal statement. I had a gap year job lined up and I reached the point of acceptance. And lo and behold, after working that job for a few weeks and getting everything lined up for a new cycle, one school finally took a chance on me.

I don't want to disparage the people who got acceptances in November or December and act like mine meant more than theirs. But at the same time...well, I think it instills a different kind of drive in you. I went through so many cycles of hopelessness only to be given the tiniest glimmer of hope, only to go back to hopelessness, only to repeat again and again and again. And when I got to medical school, I was desperate to prove that admitting me was not a mistake. It wasn't always smooth sailing, but at the end of the day I graduated in the top 20% of my class, got an award for academic excellence, published a first author research paper, and I couples matched into a competitive specialty at an institution that's probably the most "prestigious" of all the medical schools I applied to (where I had been swiftly rejected without an interview).

I truly hope from the bottom of my heart that all of you hear good news in the next month or so. It gets better. I am pulling for all of you! Remember what Teddy Roosevelt said: “It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat.”
Thank you so so much for sharing. This validated the struggle, we aren’t dramatic or exaggerating this is just a hard, miserable, and almost unbearable thing to be going through and your story confirms that. It is nice to know that struggles like this give a certain tenacity. Like u said, anyone who got into med school achieved something great but I KNOW that all of us in this position have one hell of an edge now w having to endure all of this and tbh this probs gave us a mental toughness that we will carry the rest of our lives. Thanks for the inspiration and CONGRATS ON GETTING TO WHERE YOU ARE TODAY
 
As a waitlist alum I wanted to share some thoughts. Now that I have graduated medical school I can confidently say that the agonizing waitlist game was the worst part of the entire process. It was worse than studying for Step 1, the hardest clinical rotations, residency interviews, waiting for Black Monday/Match Day, worse than all of it. The point being, if you can get through this, you can get through anything.

At this point exactly four years ago, I was discouraged beyond discouragement. I don't even like to think about that time. I remember there was one day, maybe in late April or early May? I was convinced that one school where I was waitlisted was going to be releasing acceptances. I don't remember why but I had good reasons. Anyway, my roommate and I went back to our original college dorm to say goodbye to college and I thought that if I was going to open an acceptance email it would be a neat "full circle" moment to do it there. Of course, I didn't get in - but I did open my Facebook to see that one of my pre-med acquaintances did. So that was a hit to my confidence, to say the least. At that point, I gave up hope. I made a new school list, confirmed new letters of recommendation, and wrote a new personal statement. I had a gap year job lined up and I reached the point of acceptance. And lo and behold, after working that job for a few weeks and getting everything lined up for a new cycle, one school finally took a chance on me.

I don't want to disparage the people who got acceptances in November or December and act like mine meant more than theirs. But at the same time...well, I think it instills a different kind of drive in you. I went through so many cycles of hopelessness only to be given the tiniest glimmer of hope, only to go back to hopelessness, only to repeat again and again and again. And when I got to medical school, I was desperate to prove that admitting me was not a mistake. It wasn't always smooth sailing, but at the end of the day I graduated in the top 20% of my class, got an award for academic excellence, published a first author research paper, and I couples matched into a competitive specialty at an institution that's probably the most "prestigious" of all the medical schools I applied to (where I had been swiftly rejected without an interview).

I truly hope from the bottom of my heart that all of you hear good news in the next month or so. It gets better. I am pulling for all of you! Remember what Teddy Roosevelt said: “It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat.”

Honestly I have been having an extremely tough time with this entire process but know that your post really helped me. Thank you so much. I feel the same way about those of us on the waitlist having a different drive. As I grow older, and the more years I spend into trying to get into medical school, the more I know I will absolutely prove my worth once I am in.
 
I think another thing about this process is that I got off the WL at my choice school last week but it seems like most students already have roommate plans and my now confirmed apartment is only available for move in a month after I have to be in the state - we have to quarantine in the states for two weeks before classes start on July 6 in order to be able to start in person - many apartments around the area also only have late July, August, September move in dates as other leases are filled. I can’t imagine people getting in a week before school starts 🙁
 
I think another thing about this process is that I got off the WL at my choice school last week but it seems like most students already have roommate plans and my now confirmed apartment is only available for move in a month after I have to be in the state - we have to quarantine in the states for two weeks before classes start on July 6 in order to be able to start in person - many apartments around the area also only have late July, August, September move in dates as other leases are filled. I can’t imagine people getting in a week before school starts 🙁
Which medical school starts July 6th??
 
After 1 ii in March and 1 WL I finally got the A! Hang in there everyone. This process is brutal and I spent the past 2 days overwhelmed with stress and crying when I went on a run, but good things are coming!!! Sending love to everyone in here for their support
 
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