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PippyPony said:
Also, please explain to me what your point is, wolf, because I have voted for you and you do not seem to be interested in doing the same for me, despite inexplicably having me in your "wolfy tinfoil" for 5 days now.
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I’d rather lynch my top wolf read - vmh.
if she flips wolf you or miz are next

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*its gonna be the same gif from now on.
 
Animal Midwife said:
Blocker can be useful if handled with extreme care. Can't just be used randomly like seer or tracker. Once, I blocked a triple kill.
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Once, I blocked the protector and it resulted in my own death
 
PippyPony said:
Please explain why not Cubs, and why me and Miz if vmh flips wolf

What if she flips village
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if she flips village, then my vote is for you or genny
You for everything you’ve done:sendoff:
Miz bc of her defense of vmh is strange
Cubs as PM’er doesnt strike me as wolfy

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muttmanager said:
if she flips village, then my vote is for you or genny
You for everything you’ve done:sendoff:
Miz bc of her defense of vmh is strange
Cubs as PM’er doesnt strike me as wolfy

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Ok, so your wolf read on me is irrespective of whether or not Meats flips village or wolf?

Why aren't you voting for me?
 
muttmanager said:
if she flips village, then my vote is for you or genny
You for everything you’ve done:sendoff:
Miz bc of her defense of vmh is strange
Cubs as PM’er doesnt strike me as wolfy

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What defense of Meats? All I remember saying about her is that if Kras was wolf she was also possibly wolf and that I didn’t want to lynch her before Kras because that didn’t fit my POE.
 
PippyPony said:
Ok, maybe just your interpretation of the movie title. Does it sound like it is mocking you? (taken out of context, obviously)
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I’ve sadly never seen the movie 🙁

The phrasing was helpful, like she was keeping me from getting late fees. The movie could maybe be seen as condescending or mocking? Based on the way the lynches have been going, potentially lol
 
muttmanager said:
How did you come to that conclusion?

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I'm trying to understand
Meats was spinning it wolf, I do not necessarily share that opinion. Would like to know vanillizing timing details from other slimed people because it could suggest the blocker as Meats, and I want the blocker dead.
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It seems like Pip is saying:
1. The blocker didn't block someone on night 2
2. that the slimer turns someone vanilla
3. So whomever was vanilla on night 2 is the blocker

That's why I was trying to understand what the blocker meant. If the blocker is a wolf, then it would seem that we have a good chance of knowing who one of them is. If the blocker is just a villager who is annoying Pip, then its less worth pursuing (even if being blocked twice in a row would suck).
 
holdthemayo said:
I'm trying to understand
It seems like Pip is saying:
1. The blocker didn't block someone on night 2
2. that the slimer turns someone vanilla
3. So whomever was vanilla on night 2 is the blocker

That's why I was trying to understand what the blocker meant. If the blocker is a wolf, then it would seem that we have a good chance of knowing who one of them is.
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That is the logical conclusion that I was trying to suggest, yes.

THAT SAID...

What I do not want this to lead to is a mislynch on vmh solely based on mechanics. There is still a LOT of missing information that could explain that situation, including if anyone feels like owning up to being blocked N2 or being the blocker.

holdthemayo said:
If the blocker is just a villager who is annoying Pip, then its less worth pursuing (even if being blocked twice in a row would suck).
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It is perhaps less worth pursuing for the rest of you, but I am not kidding when I say I want that person dead come hell or high water... unless they take today to examine their crimes and pick better targets.
 
PippyPony said:
right, but if i am a guaranteed wolf, then i should be your top wolf read, not someone who you are unsure enough to need a flip on.
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Bc I may be blinded by your tunnel on me.


mizchiefmanaged said:
What defense of Meats? All I remember saying about her is that if Kras was wolf she was also possibly wolf and that I didn’t want to lynch her before Kras because that didn’t fit my POE.
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This was happening while kras was claiming a PR and detailing she was JoAT with a shot left. Why she had to be lynched first makes no sense.

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mizchiefmanaged said:
Because I didn’t see a wolf doing that on a villager vote. That’s why I was holding off on meats.
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A wolf doing what? Bc a why wouldnt a wolf strongly advocate kras was lying and continue to vote there, maybe we saw 2 different things

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muttmanager said:
A wolf doing what? Bc a why wouldnt a wolf strongly advocate kras was lying and continue to vote there, maybe we saw 2 different things

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I saw her jump on and off and then did the same thing yesterday if I remember correctly. That’s a weird move for a wolf to make to save vill and not another wolf.

Edit: and now you’re making me get defensive to my POE reasoning so now I sound like I’m actually defending her. I don’t see a wolf doing that but she’s not firmly in village category for me. But that’s a weird ass move for a wolf to make.
 
muttmanager said:
A wolf doing what? Bc a why wouldnt a wolf strongly advocate kras was lying and continue to vote there, maybe we saw 2 different things
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mizchiefmanaged said:
I saw her jump on and off and then did the same thing yesterday if I remember correctly. That’s a weird move for a wolf to make to save vill and not another wolf.
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Although, keep in mind that Meats also confessed to being afraid of getting shot lol

in my mind, wolves would be the people most likely to bounce (or stay entirely MIA) last night. ...when someone you know is village starts waving a gun around... wolves are going to disperse right quick so they're out of sight out of mind, or maaaaybe actively defend the player getting lynched.

It's why @mypetmoose is giving ziggy village cred for staying on my lynch, why I gave Mel wolf points for his comment this morning about "i told you not to vote Kras," and why I gave @StartingoverVet wolf points for defending me D1.
 
cubsrule4e said:
have they? I guess I will have to go back, unless you’ve got some examples on hand. I mean I remember some posts but not a lot of much if that makes sense.
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Yes. I don't have any quotes at the moment but there's been a continuous streamline of thoughts even if I don't agree with all conclusions.
 
PippyPony said:
Although, keep in mind that Meats also confessed to being afraid of getting shot lol

in my mind, wolves would be the people most likely to bounce (or stay entirely MIA) last night. ...when someone you know is village starts waving a gun around... wolves are going to disperse right quick so they're out of sight out of mind, or maaaaybe actively defend the player getting lynched.

It's why @mypetmoose is giving ziggy village cred for staying on my lynch, why I gave Mel wolf points for his comment this morning about "i told you not to vote Kras," and why I gave @StartingoverVet wolf points for defending me D1.
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Wait, I thought ziggy moved to kras.
 
PippyPony said:
Since people have been all up in my face about fishing, let's have some results, shall we?

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Cubs is AOL and the blocker night result flavor is fixing a dial up connection; however it is either a dual function role or they are separate roles.

The blocking target list:
- Blocked genny N1
- Blocked ???? N2 --> thought it may have been ZJ and a function of Cub's PMing, since Cubs PMed her D1 and me D2, but she refused to answer ?s
- Blocked me N3
- Blocked me again N4 --> any connection between blocking and PMing goes out the window so they are separate roles

genny likes to have wolves block each other in early game so take that for what you will.

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Slime role is a full cycle vanillizer (unconfirmed, according to Meats) and targets have been:
- Mel D2
- Meats D3
- AM D4
- Mutts D5

Meats was spinning it wolf, I do not necessarily share that opinion. Would like to know vanillizing timing details from other slimed people because it could suggest the blocker as Meats, and I want the blocker dead.

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Mutt's targets that I know of have been:
Barks N2 - clueless
Me N3 - dazed and confused
?? N4 - ? miz?

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Dead confirmed roles (high impact roles in green)
D1 acanth - face, pic sender
N1 Mpm v1- windows screensaver, jailer
D2 Ms P - clippy, vanilla
N2 WZ - 90s journalist, write up editor
D3 Alissa - walkman, vanilla
N3 Sporty - baby sinclair, vanilla
D4 kras - pink power ranger, JOAT (1x seer AM 1x invisible Kras 1x any-time shot not taken)
N4 Barks - neverhood, lynch controller (steal vote or unlynchable - D2 Pippy D3 Nav D4 Cubs)

Known alive roles
Cubs PMer
Mutts sends overdue videos - I have not been able to ascertain any functional ability for the role and it seems to be a mild trolling theme based on the movies selected thus far - wolf lean

Unknown alive roles
Dial up internet Blocker
Slime vanillizer
Clothing/item giver
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I have also received a tube top N1 which appeared to be a useless item that I'm supposed to hang onto for whatever reason. Someone shoved it over my head to make me look more 90s.

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Living players with unconfirmed roles/functions:
Miz
SOV
Mel
genny
mpm/Nav --> although I am going to suggest vanilla there, regardless of affiliation
AM
mayo
afflac
jmoose --> suggest vanilla for same reason
myself (sort of)
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AOL Instant Messenger to be specific
 
Animal Midwife said:
Wait, I thought ziggy moved to kras.
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Do we need a color-coded lynch tracker, perhaps?

(from my PM for my own reference, although I don't usually find this useful especially when it's all green 🙄 )
Oh and before anyone @'s me --- I am green in my own damn lynch tally, and AM is lighter green b/c seered village by village.

FINAL Day 1 Spice Up Your Life Lynch Tally
Check your votes!

hemorroidz (4) - kras, mel, mutts, mayo
genny (1) - cubs
ravioli () -
am (1) - MsP
jboose () -
pipsy (3) - ziggy, alissa, hemorroidz
WZ (1) - sporty
cubs (1) - genny
mel (1) - vmh
mayo (2) - jboose, mpm
alissa (1) - miz
miz (1) - pipsy
sporty (1) - dina
barks (1) - SOV
kras (2) - AM, WZ
mutts (1) - barks

21/23 votes

Missing: 3M/afflac, Nav/mpm

Lynch closed at 6pm PST

Day 2 Pipe Dream *FINAL* Lynch Tally

kras (2) - miz, alissa
AM (1) - kras
SOV (1) - Pippy
MsP (5) - jboose, ziggy, WZ, AM, Sporty
mutts (2) - Barks, AFFLAC
Sporty (4) - vmh, dina, SOV, Mel
vmh ()
AFFLAC (1) - mutts
alissa (1) - mayo
Nav (1) - cubs
cubs (1) - genny

19/21
Missing: @Navilly mpm & @Ms Procrastinator

Day 3 Life's not all just sparkles and rainbows Lynch Tally
ziggy ()
Pippy () -
nav/mpm (1) - alissa
kras (2) - AM, ziggy
vmh (3) - jboose, sporty, mutts
mel (2) - nav, Pippy
Mutts() -
alissa (5) - barks, mayo, miz, cubs, AFFlocky
cubs (3) - SOV, vmh, kras
miz () -
Sov (1) - dina
Dina (1) - Mel

18/19
Missing: @genny

Day 4 Battle of the (Boy) Bands Lynch Tally:
mutts (2) - Pippy, mayo
vmh (2) - jbOOSE, mutts
cubs (-) - SOV
kras (5) - AM, miz, vmh, Dina, ziggy
Pippy (1) - kras
Dina (1) - Mel
sov (1) - cubs
ziggy (1) - barks
mayo (1) - genny

14/17
missing: Nav- @mypetmoose @AccidentFromFlorida @StartingoverVet

Day 5 More Fun Than A Pillow Fight Lynch Tally

ziggy (1) - AM
vmh (1) - mutts
mayo (2) - Mel, ziggy
mutts (4) - cubs, vmh, Dina, genny
genny () -
jboose () -
Mel (6) - Pippy, mayo, mpm, jboo, afflac, miz

14/15 Players Voting
missing: @StartingoverVet
 
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PippyPony said:
@vetmedhead you maybe wanna come on here and defend yourself instead of making other people feel like they should do it?
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sorry I am on treadmill and on phone and this is a lot of posts this PM, so for the moment I am cherry picking posts I see to comment on. Specifically this one, can people fill me in on what I’m missing with the VMH thing?Mutts I can obviously see, kras I could see, Mel I can even see, as far as top potential flips, but I haven’tfelt her to be overly wolfy since she started talking more day 2 (I think pippy even ewwwwd or yucked the post when I leaned her village.) I know sporty was voting for her so you could make the NK connection there but I think that alone is fairly weak to me.
 
PippyPony said:
The next person who says they are "paranoid" about me is getting eyeroll reacts on every single one of their posts. If you're that damn scared, just lynch me.
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don‘t worry, I’m always paranoid about you 😛
PippyPony said:
Since people have been all up in my face about fishing, let's have some results, shall we?

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Cubs is AOL and the blocker night result flavor is fixing a dial up connection; however it is either a dual function role or they are separate roles.

The blocking target list:
- Blocked genny N1
- Blocked ???? N2 --> thought it may have been ZJ and a function of Cub's PMing, since Cubs PMed her D1 and me D2, but she refused to answer ?s
- Blocked me N3
- Blocked me again N4 --> any connection between blocking and PMing goes out the window so they are separate roles

genny likes to have wolves block each other in early game so take that for what you will.

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Slime role is a full cycle vanillizer (unconfirmed, according to Meats) and targets have been:
- Mel D2
- Meats D3
- AM D4
- Mutts D5

Meats was spinning it wolf, I do not necessarily share that opinion. Would like to know vanillizing timing details from other slimed people because it could suggest the blocker as Meats, and I want the blocker dead.

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Mutt's targets that I know of have been:
Barks N2 - clueless
Me N3 - dazed and confused
?? N4 - ? miz?

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Dead confirmed roles (high impact roles in green)
D1 acanth - face, pic sender
N1 Mpm v1- windows screensaver, jailer
D2 Ms P - clippy, vanilla
N2 WZ - 90s journalist, write up editor
D3 Alissa - walkman, vanilla
N3 Sporty - baby sinclair, vanilla
D4 kras - pink power ranger, JOAT (1x seer AM 1x invisible Kras 1x any-time shot not taken)
N4 Barks - neverhood, lynch controller (steal vote or unlynchable - D2 Pippy D3 Nav D4 Cubs)

Known alive roles
Cubs PMer
Mutts sends overdue videos - I have not been able to ascertain any functional ability for the role and it seems to be a mild trolling theme based on the movies selected thus far - wolf lean

Unknown alive roles
Dial up internet Blocker
Slime vanillizer
Clothing/item giver
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I have also received a tube top N1 which appeared to be a useless item that I'm supposed to hang onto for whatever reason. Someone shoved it over my head to make me look more 90s.

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Living players with unconfirmed roles/functions:
Miz
SOV
Mel
genny
mpm/Nav --> although I am going to suggest vanilla there, regardless of affiliation
AM
mayo
afflac
jmoose --> suggest vanilla for same reason
myself (sort of)
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Sporty was blocked N2
 
PippyPony said:
Don't make me move you wolf, jboo -- I had you as strong village and you are just shooting yourself in the foot with this +/- not having any effect on me other than to piss me off if you're the blocker
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dude, slow your roll. Would it help if I told you that the block message mentioned something about not being able to use the internet?
 
PippyPony said:
I'm very interested in where you got this idea that my vote for SOV was a hangover from a previous game.

Because spoiler alert: it is, but I intentionally said literally nothing about that in any of my posts about it during this game up until right now. Specifically, he killed me early in a game a while back after making a post like that one, and later on, I got an apology PM saying it had to be done because I seemed like a power role. Gave me the creeps to see a similar post again.

So I would like to know where you got that idea, because it wasn't from anything that is publicly accessible.
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So I've been searching through the first couple days of thread to try to find some inkling that led me to believe my read on the SOV wagon, and after looking for roughly an hour now, I have absolutely no clue where that came from, but it would seem it was somewhere around my ascending colon: that is to say, waaaaaay up my ass. The fact that it was correct is weird and I'm drawing a blank at this point....

As for yesterday, I may or may not have been the one to tell mpm that lynch was at 10 (oops) and so believed it myself, figuring that I could get a vote in after the several hours of driving I had to do yesterday. I'm sorry.

Now onto the game, thanks for the nice summary post, I had missed the dial-up thing until I saw your post and then went back in thread and tried to find my thought process for the above comment.

It seems to reason that the dial-up role is not village because of the jailer functionality, and I'm now seeing jboo's post, which I would like to see where they got that info from, otherwise I want to put my lynch there.

I am always down for a mutts lynch
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I think I proved that in the first few votes, and it's aggravating that her lynch keeps evaporating despite nothing concrete in her favor, and she keeps having logical fallacies like how she is saying that pippy is a wolf regardless of the meats vote, and has called pippy sus for several days, but doesn't ever put her vote where her mouth is (because she knows pippy is vill?)
Also there's her interaction with cubs and AM on day 1, which I thought was v/v/w when it happend, and now that we know that AM is cleared by seer, it makes me see that interaction as even more likely that the wolf in that mix was mutts.
lynch mutts
Beyond that I have genny and mayo as potentially wolfy, although mayo less so with today's posts. How does @cubsrule4e feel about Mayo, still voting there?
Mpm's sub for nav does make me curious about miz, slight wolf points, no matter how unfair that feels
We still don't have word of whether mpm/nav's role was silenced, so I would like to hear from her about that.
Either pippy is village, or she has me firmly in her nu metal, cargo shorts pocket (super deeeep)
Hope mel's test went well, if it weren't for all of the side comments about his history, I would be concerned, but the wishy-washiness of everybody in thread to all of his posts makes me feel less confident in that assertion.
Zigg's post earlier seemed genuine, even if I don't fully understand it. I do have her slightly more village than I would otherwise for it, if nothing else just to allow her to cool off and enjoy at least some of this game over the next few days.
Dina scares me only because I can't get a solid read on her yet I've found myself agreeing with a lot she has to say.
Meats and cubs are two more I'm having trouble with, but for some reason they scare me less. Maybe because they have more presence on thread? Maybe because I've disagreed with a couple points, I'm not sure, it's something in my amygdala.
SOV I would like to hear from more, if for nothing else than to prove I am a hypocrite, although props for the alissa read. I was pretty unsure of her until the waffle fest started...
I think that's a read for everybody...I've had literally no actions taken on me all game (except for being threatened to be smited by the gods), so I can't provide more than what's in thread already.
Sorry for the lack of content, I'm trying to be better.

Village -> wolfy
Me(duh)
AM
Pippy
mpm
zigg
meats
cubs
mel
SOV
mayo
genny
dina
miz (nav tinfoil)
jboose (pending an explanation of N2 blocking knowledge)
mutts

*edited because I forgot to finish a sentence
 
FYI...

worst case scenario = lylo is the day after tomorrow, possibly even sooner if my dark tinfoil is in play; see below if curious.

  • 23 players @ start
    • Currently at 15 players; Day 5
    • Opening write up gives win conditions for villagers and wolves, so there is unlikely to be a 3rd Party imo
  • Likely 4 wolves plus a convert option; potentially an alpha wolf included there for balance.
    • No indication that a conversion has happened but tbh I have been terrible about reading these write ups for more than just entertainment/flair. Worst case is probably 5 wolves right now.
      • (although I have a terrible tinfoil that I have been trying to squash that whispers to me that the "time machine" and the associated wolves function like a cult, because lawper loves cults...in which case all this lylo math is toast and we're probably already at lylo).
Static wolf # scenario
5:10 today D5
D5 lynch village --> 5:9 tonight
N5 kill village --> 5:8 tomorrow morning
D6 lynch village --> 5:7
N6 kill village --> 5:6
so we have today, tomorrow, then lylo

More plausible scenario
4:11 today D5
D5 lynch village --> 4:10 overnight
N5 kill village --> 4:9 tomorrow morning
D6 lynch village --> 4:7 tomorrow night
N6 kill village --> 4:6
D7 lynch village --> 4:5
and so that is still game, I believe.

And actually, latter scenario could be almost as bad even if we do lynch a wolf somewhere (buys one day):
4:11 today D5
D5 lynch village --> 4:10 overnight
N5 kill village --> 4:9 tomorrow morning
D6 lynch WOLF --> 3:9 tomorrow night --> N6 CONVERT --> 4:8
D7 lynch village --> 4:7
N7 kill village --> 4:6
D8 lynch village --> 4:5
and game
 
I’m starting to get a bit pissy about the Nav tinfoil. This is the third person to bring it up I think. How would him subbing out make ME a wolf? It’s more likely that he’s a wolf and subbed out so he didn’t show me his wolfy in person poker face but I’m not going down that road.
 
I don't know that Lawpy likes converts. I know Coffee? does, but not sure whose game this is.
 
mizchiefmanaged said:
I’m starting to get a bit pissy about the Nav tinfoil. This is the third person to bring it up I think. How would him subbing out make ME a wolf? It’s more likely that he’s a wolf and subbed out so he didn’t show me his wolfy in person poker face but I’m not going down that road.
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because he has subbed out the last few times you have been a wolf.

but regardless, it is stupid and angleshooty crap that I don't think people should be using.

Let mods be mods, folks. It's hard enough.
 
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