Anesthesia Redux - A Basics WW Game Sign Ups & Game Thread

[WildZoo]

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Hydra's not in the WW Glossary, @WildZoo . What's it mean again?

Re: SAR night kill, it seems too amateur hour for AM to NK SAR just because she's a threat. Isn't that too easy for others to see? Aren't night kills supposed to be random so you can't read into it?

Hydra = two (or more!) people playing as a single role

 

[Coopah]

Speaking of grammatical errors, let’s revisit one of my favorite WW moments:

Spoiler: AM 404 not found

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But was she a wolf?

 

[Stroganoff]

In response to this. I will switch it up and do this with some frequently just because the consensus is "They are too good to do something like this."

People forget that when someone is self aware, bad play can be good play, as people assume good player on good players.

I haven't played enough with you guys to know who's "good" vs. "bad." Interesting point though.

 

[Stroganoff]

Hydra = two (or more!) people playing as a single role

Oh, duh. I was thinking like if you cut one head off, another 1-2 grow back in its place. So like lynch one hydra PR wolf, and 2 more wolves are converted

 

[Navilly]

Unlynch doggo
Lynch nav

since no one else wants to do it

I am sure I will eventually piss off the right person to get offed, just give it time. I have already gotten a couple of people ticked off.

Sorry all, fever spiked to 104 yesterday and I went to the ER. Still feeling completely out of it, so won’t be able to reasonably catch up. Sorry again, didn’t think I’d be literally dying this week

@WildZoo - to be fair, that's unfortunate circumstances, would appreciate you considering giving him another day or a sub.

Mood

I‘m working on paperwork, tyvm!

Did you know, saying mood is a lynchable offense?

And an info vote is not a reaction-gathering vote. An info vote means I'm perfectly happy with following through on that person being lynched, and in fact advocating for it.

How does my lynch provide more info than doggo?

What would be wrong with a 4-4 tie?

Majority works like majority. When one player hits 7 votes, lynch closes.

See the other option is that it's the tie breaker that gets hurt. Or RNG. Which in this type of game, a basics game, it will likely go to RNG.

I can’t say I have too much to contribute on leans and whatnot right now, other than Nav’s aggressiveness actually has me reading him more village. 😵

Aggression happens either way tbh. I always am humored by the arguments people make for me village or wolf. I do stuff differently every game. There isn't consistency. I intentionally change my tone each game. I have intentionally stayed quiet as wolf before. I have controlled the thread before. I have stayed as a moderate contributor before. Each time intentional. I go from intentionally acting bat ****e, to intentionally acting joking, to intentionally acting frustrated/annoyed, to intentionally acting aggressive and pushy. I do the same stuff as villager, this way you can't trace me one way or the other. The whole point of this game is not one game. It's the meta across games and making it so people can't find a pattern. The 5D chess world that Pippy aspires to be in.

"echoing" them, if you will? 🤔

So now you have it as a Coopah/Nav pack?

 

[Barkley13]

Oohh now that it’s close

unlynch strog
Lynch nav

 

[Animal Midwife]

Slow it down peeps, it L-2 to maj.

 

[mizchiefmanaged]

Did you see my post last night where I asked you what discrepancies you were seeing?

Nope I didn’t ill try to ISO

 

[Stroganoff]

Oohh now that it’s close

unlynch strog
Lynch nav

Why though? (I mean, thank you, but still.) Are you voting for Nav because you think he's a bigger wolf than me or simply because you want to jump on the bandwagon because "it's close"?

My hypothesis is you might be wolfy and Nav is a bigger threat than I am.

 

[WildZoo]

@WildZoo - to be fair, that's unfortunate circumstances, would appreciate you considering giving him another day or a sub.

Don't think I need to be told how to manage these situations dude, been modding for a long time 😉

 

[cubsrule4e]

Slow it down peeps, it L-2 to maj.

Is that another grammatical error?

 

[Animal Midwife]

Is that another grammatical error?

Nah, just ww jargon.

 

[WildZoo]

Is that another grammatical error?

She's speaking in tongues

 

[Barkley13]

But why

Strog - Day 1 weirdness and the continued tunnel on AM (including calling her out for grammar??). He made a comment day 1 too that was something like “in case anyone is watching and thinks this is a fake fight” that doesn’t sit right with me because it seemed a bit overly concerned about how he looked. Then yesterday he mostly contributed fluff for a while followed by what felt like a lot of general statements that didn’t mean anything.
Nav - a lot of his content (which is really just a lot of arguing with AM) hasn’t contributed much to actual wolf hunting and a majority of it has been distracting. The argument originally felt NAI but the repeated returns to it plus some other things he’s said that I can’t think of off the top of my head are putting him wolf for me

... @Barkley13 am I wrong ooooor?

ya you’re wrong🙂

 

[Barkley13]

Why though? (I mean, thank you, but still.) Are you voting for Nav because you think he's a bigger wolf than me or simply because you want to jump on the bandwagon because "it's close"?

My hypothesis is you might be wolfy and Nav is a bigger threat than I am.

Because I have you both as wolf reads and he actually has a chance of getting lynched

 

[genny]

With that said, they are both still in neutral at best for me right now. What has you having them both in pure village territory.

Pippy sounds like Pippy, she doesn't seem pushy enough to be wolfing. I don't know that I'd put her in pure village territory, but she's leaning that way for me.
Coop's reactions prior to BC flipping just sound super village to me. I know what it feels like to be so absolutely sure that a player is going to flip wolf and then be totally wrong - and her posts sound very much like that, and not so much like a gloating wolf.

How in the world do you have Miz on your short list. I read Miz with close to 100% accuracy. Unless you think we are a pack, and then that's fair. But realistically, that's not the droid you are looking for.

Yes, I have considered a Miz/Nav pack. Miz is on my list for pretending to be grossed out that she's voting the same as you, and then doing absolutely nothing about it.

 

[cubsrule4e]

@PippyPony halp! my jokes are falling flat again!

 

[PippyPony]

tally?

 

[Coopah]

Strog - Day 1 weirdness and the continued tunnel on AM (including calling her out for grammar??). He made a comment day 1 too that was something like “in case anyone is watching and thinks this is a fake fight” that doesn’t sit right with me because it seemed a bit overly concerned about how he looked. Then yesterday he mostly contributed fluff for a while followed by what felt like a lot of general statements that didn’t mean anything.
Nav - a lot of his content (which is really just a lot of arguing with AM) hasn’t contributed much to actual wolf hunting and a majority of it has been distracting. The argument originally felt NAI but the repeated returns to it plus some other things he’s said that I can’t think of off the top of my head are putting him wolf for me

ya you’re wrong🙂

Yanno that was an invitation to prove me wrong by you know quoting things. You're not making me feel better about you

 

[Barkley13]

5 today

Wat
Pretty sure I haven’t used it at all today

 

[WildZoo]

Despite actually reading all posts in this game so far, I'm pretty sure I have no clue what the **** you guys are talking about half the time

I'm glad I'm modding on this rotation instead of playing. The brain death is real.

 

[Animal Midwife]

Unofficial Day 2 Was that a MURMUR?? Lynch Tally
dolphin (1) - jboo
Nav (5) - AM, Doggo, Pippy, cubs, Barks
Barks (2) - Coop, Strog
Doggo (3) - dolphin, miz, Nav
Strog () -

@Navilly You are winning!

11/13
lynch close in ~2 hours (10pm EST) or majority (7 votes on one player)
Missing: Stagg, genny

 

[genny]

Also, I don't like how genny is holding her vote in light of the current spread.

Dude, I work. I'm not holding my vote, I'm trying to get caught up. I know majority is in effect today, so I'm not going to park my vote and be a tool for wolves when I'm not around to change it or discuss.

 

[genny]

Girl I think this is three games in a row you’ve tunneled me. I don’t think we read each other well

Yes, I know I can't read you worth beans, which is why you'll probably never be in firm village territory for me.

 

[PippyPony]

Unlynch Nav

 

[PippyPony]

Lynch doggo

 

[WildZoo]

Oooo a tie

 

[PippyPony]

Unofficial Day 2 Was that a MURMUR?? Lynch Tally
dolphin (1) - jboo
Nav (4) - AM, Doggo, cubs, Barks
Barks (2) - Coop, Strog
Doggo (4) - dolphin, miz, Nav, Pippy
Strog () -

@Navilly @Doggo Labs You are winning!

11/13
lynch close in ~2 hours (10pm EST) or majority (7 votes on one player)
Missing: Stagg, genny

 

[PippyPony]

Speaking of grammatical errors, let’s revisit one of my favorite WW moments:

Spoiler: AM 404 not found

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was this in spyro lol

she had a couple good meltdowns in that game. I picture it like a pokemon who gets hit with a major attack and they get whacked backwards in the air & their eyes go all spirally

 

[Animal Midwife]

was this in spyro lol

she had a couple good meltdowns in that game. I picture it like a pokemon who gets hit with a major attack and they get whacked backwards in the air & their eyes go all spirally

tbh I also resonated with this video during that f3; just replace weight with mel being confirmed village

 

[genny]

Ok, caught up.
lynch nav

 

[jaboo]

was this in spyro lol

she had a couple good meltdowns in that game. I picture it like a pokemon who gets hit with a major attack and they get whacked backwards in the air & their eyes go all spirally

No idea what the game was, I just remember laying in bed, knowing that SAR Mel was a convert and quietly cackling so as not to wake up my roommate.

 

[Animal Midwife]

No idea what the game was, I just remember laying in bed, knowing that SAR was a convert and quietly cackling so as not to wake up my roommate.

No no no no that's not what happened or else I would've won

 

[PippyPony]

No idea what the game was, I just remember laying in bed, knowing that SAR was a convert and quietly cackling so as not to wake up my roommate.

oh i think it must have been spyro b/c you were a wolf with miz. But SAR wasn't the convert -- mel was. SAR was a victim lol

 

[Stroganoff]

Nav - a lot of his content (which is really just a lot of arguing with AM) hasn’t contributed much to actual wolf hunting and a majority of it has been distracting.

This is bull****. You're completely being dismissive of Nav's posts. I think they've definitely contributed to actual wolf hunting. You're full of ****, and I don't understand what would make someone dismiss someone's posts so haphazardly.

You did that to me as well:

Then yesterday he mostly contributed fluff for a while followed by what felt like a lot of general statements that didn’t mean anything.

You hypocrite. You dismiss 100% of my posts (without even quoting them and saying why) in one breath, but maybe you don't realize it but this statement is in itself a general statement.

Re: this:

He made a comment day 1 too that was something like “in case anyone is watching and thinks this is a fake fight” that doesn’t sit right with me because it seemed a bit overly concerned about how he looked.

Assuming you have a good memory, you'll remember that I do this as often as possible. I'm concerned about how my posts look and hate being misread or misunderstood, hence why I pre-empt people a lot. It just saves a lot of time and conversation correcting the record after the fact.

Re: AM's grammar, I wasn't sure if she had the same amount of typos and grammatical errors in prior games as she does in this game.

Here's an IF statement if that makes my logic more clear:

If (AnimalMidwife makes grammatical typos as her baseline) {
   then her errors this game are NAI; }
else {
   then her errors this game stand out and are indicative of affiliation; }

Since @johnnaboo chimed in with history of another game with errors, that makes me think that she's not deviating from her baseline. So that makes me understand that AM just makes typos at baseline and not just this game.

(Also, how on earth do you guys remember past games? I see y'all quoting statistics like sports nerds. Are you guys savants and remember every little detail about past games, who wolfed, and percentages of D2 lynches? 😱 )

 

[jaboo]

oh i think it must have been spyro b/c you were a wolf with miz. But SAR wasn't the convert -- mel was. SAR was a victim lol

U right u right

 

[PippyPony]

This is bull****. You're completely being dismissive of Nav's posts. I think they've definitely contributed to actual wolf hunting. You're full of ****, and I don't understand what would make someone dismiss someone's posts so haphazardly.

Um.

What has you so enamored with Nav?

 

[Stroganoff]

Yanno that was an invitation to prove me wrong by you know quoting things. You're not making me feel better about you

Yeah, I'm a little confused why Barks didn't provide any specific quotes and spoke in vague statements while simultaneously accusing others of making vague statements.

I assume people are self-aware of how they come across? A wolf would be self-aware that they are coming across so vague and hypocritical, no? So why then is Barks acting this way?

 

[jaboo]

I will also say that I’m not huge a fan of Strog or cubs right now. But I need more time to digest the freaking 16 pages I read.

 

[genny]

Also, how on earth do you guys remember past games?

idk what you're talking about, i haven't really played before.

 

[genny]

Um.

What has you so enamored with Nav?

i think it's the avatar. makes him look like he might know a thing or two.

 

[PippyPony]

I assume people are self-aware of how they come across?

No... no I'm not sure they are

 

[Stroganoff]

Um.

What has you so enamored with Nav?

Because he's actually made an effort in explaining his thought process, and it happens to corroborate mine. He went *ding ding ding* on my post when I said that the D1 wagon on BigCats was suspicious, and Nav also corroborated a lot of my suspicion on AnimalMidwife.

He's either really good at pocketing me by basically agreeing with me, or I'm onto something and AM is suspect.

I defended Nav in that post because Barkley -- in one or two lines of writing -- basically said that Nav hasn't contributed to this game, but the transcript shows that Nav has absolutely written some lengthy posts this game!

It's gaslighting. I hate hate hate gaslighting in real life, and I hate it just as much in a WW game. Barks is gaslighting us by making us think we are crazy by dismissing Navilly's posts are not contributing to wolf hunting.

Example of post that disproves Barkley's assertion that Nav isn't contributing:

So an aside for a second. I see all of this commentary from strog about the VCA from yesterday, but that would be dependent on the vote that happened yesterday around doggo. Doggo gives us the most info, as that BC wagon formed in response to doggo being at the top of the tally. If Doggo is a wolf, bound to find a wolf or two on the BC wagon.

This is very much a post that contributes to wolf hunting. Among others.

 

[Coopah]

Because he's actually made an effort in explaining his thought process, and it happens to corroborate mine. He went *ding ding ding* on my post when I said that the D1 wagon on BigCats was suspicious, and Nav also corroborated a lot of my suspicion on AnimalMidwife.

He's either really good at pocketing me by basically agreeing with me, or I'm onto something and AM is suspect.

I defended Nav in that post because Barkley -- in one or two lines of writing -- basically said that Nav hasn't contributed to this game, but the transcript shows that Nav has absolutely written some lengthy posts this game!

It's gaslighting. I hate hate hate gaslighting in real life, and I hate it just as much in a WW game. Barks is gaslighting us by making us think we are crazy by dismissing Navilly's posts are not contributing to wolf hunting.

EXAMPLE THAT DISPROVES BARKLEY'S LOGIC:



This is very much a post that contributes to wolf hunting. Among others.

DO NOT GASLIGHT ME. IT PISSES ME OFF.

Have you taken your mood stabilizers today bud? 😵 (this is not in any way intended to be offensive)

 

[Stroganoff]

idk what you're talking about, i haven't really played before.

Sarcasm?

I remember we just played in a speed game last week, and I lynched you D1 and then apologized in dead chat.

Yeah, you must have been sarcastic.

But still, just re-reading the AM-Navilly convo from D1 and they were both arguing statistics like baseball or football nerds just made me go, "Damn guys, how do you keep track of these numbers?"

 

[genny]

DO NOT GASLIGHT ME. IT PISSES ME OFF.

Like 20-25% of WW is gaslighting. Depends on the percentage of wolves + 3rd parties. You're basically signing up for a game where people lie to you (or you to them but that's less frequent).

 

[Coopah]

Sarcasm?

I remember we just played in a speed game last week, and I lynched you D1 and then apologized in dead chat.

Yeah, you must have been sarcastic.

But still, just re-reading the AM-Navilly convo from D1 and they were both arguing statistics like baseball or football nerds just made me go, "Damn guys, how do you keep track of these numbers?"

We don't, we just ask AM for them

 

[PippyPony]

 

[Stroganoff]

Have you taken your mood stabilizers today bud? 😵 (this is not in any way intended to be offensive)

My mood is fine. I do. Not. Like. When. People. Lie. While. Calling. Others. Liars.

It's DARVO. It's gaslighting. When a liar is confronted about their lying, and then they say that other people are imagining it, that's gaslighting. It's bull****. I will always always always call these people out.

It doesn't make sense for Barks to speak in vague statements and completely dismiss Navilly's lengthy posts as "not contributing to wolf hunting," when any one of us can see that they in fact do have substance. Now we can agree or disagree with Navilly's logic, but we can NOT draw the conclusion that he hasn't contributed to this game.

How is that not dismissive behavior?

Even Coopah said:

Yanno that was an invitation to prove me wrong by you know quoting things. You're not making me feel better about you

So I'm not the only one who thinks Barkley's post was really non-specific and dismissive.

 

[Coopah]

My mood is fine. I do. Not. Like. When. People. Lie. While. Calling. Others. Liars.

It's DARVO. It's gaslighting. When a liar is confronted about their lying, and then they say that other people are imaginging it, that's gaslighting. It's bull****. I will always always always call these people out.