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I'm planning on booster soon. My second Moderna dose reaction was pretty miserable for a day and I'm wondering how folks have been doing with the booster. Better/worse/same than previous doses?
Sore arm and malaise for 24-48hours. Ibuprofen was helpful. Similar to previous moderna experience
Slightly sore arm and fatigue for about 24 hours after vaccine. Moderna booster. Definitely not as bad as second dose of series
My dead friend would beg to differ.If push comes to shove and a third dose becomes mandatory i'll just go get the real virus instead of this pos vaccine.
Serious? Joke?If push comes to shove and a third dose becomes mandatory i'll just go get the real virus instead of this pos vaccine.
Huh. That's an odd choice.If push comes to shove and a third dose becomes mandatory i'll just go get the real virus instead of this pos vaccine.
No idea why they’re boosting without an updated vaccine. We know it doesn’t work well against delta.It makes 0 sense to get a third shot of a vaccine designed against a subtype of the virus that is not circulating anymore.
I don't have the numbers but over here the proportion of patients hospitalized for Covid in vaccinated people is catching up to the proportion of vaccinated people in the population.
Also i'm not fat or old...
Do we know that?No idea why they’re boosting without an updated vaccine. We know it doesn’t work well against delta.
Why do we update the flu vaccine every year after gathering epidemiological data? Isn’t an advantage of mRNA vaccines the ability to update them quickly?Do we know that?
Neither was my friend dude, neither is the young soldier currently on day 82 on ecmo who just had an emergent craniotomy who's prognosis is not good at all. I'll take my chances with a booster shot over covid any day and I believe that you should too.It makes 0 sense to get a third shot of a vaccine designed against a subtype of the virus that is not circulating anymore.
I don't have the numbers but over here the proportion of patients hospitalized for Covid in vaccinated people is catching up to the proportion of vaccinated people in the population.
Also i'm not fat or old...
Interesting the H1N1 part of the flu vaccine was unchanged from 2010 to I think 2017 or so.Why do we update the flu vaccine every year after gathering epidemiological data? Isn’t an advantage of mRNA vaccines the ability to update them quickly?
Well if they both had 2 shots then its proof that the vaccine doesn't work.Neither was my friend dude, neither is the young soldier currently on day 82 on ecmo who just had an emergent craniotomy who's prognosis is not good at all. I'll take my chances with a booster shot over covid any day and I believe that you should too.
One had none and one had one. And I know, I know, I know, that doesn't really tell you much about your specific case of not wanting another booster, but I believe that my point still stands....that it is orders of magnitudes less risky to get a booster than to get covid and risk death or possibly a lifetime of viral damage.Well if they both had 2 shots then its proof that the vaccine doesn't work.
In Belgium between oct 21 and nov 5 64% of hopitalized were 2x vaccinated as were 54% of icu admissions...
Sorry but i don't worry about polio or hepB because those vaccines work.
That is not even remotely representative of the numbers we're seeing. The last 5-6 months, >70% of our inpatients with COVID are unvaccinated. >85% of our ICU patients with COVID are unvaccinated, and >95% of our intubated patients with COVID are unvaccinated. This is what we're seeing all across the USA.Well if they both had 2 shots then its proof that the vaccine doesn't work.
In Belgium between oct 21 and nov 5 64% of hopitalized were 2x vaccinated as were 54% of icu admissions...
Sorry but i don't worry about polio or hepB because those vaccines work.
What kinda nonsense science is this?Well if they both had 2 shots then its proof that the vaccine doesn't work.
It makes 0 sense to get a third shot of a vaccine designed against a subtype of the virus that is not circulating anymore.
I don't have the numbers but over here the proportion of patients hospitalized for Covid in vaccinated people is catching up to the proportion of vaccinated people in the population.
Reinforcing my assertion that the word vaccine is a misnomer for these treatments. They are a prophylactic treatment that likely reduces severity of disease, particularly in select at-risk populations, with unknown long term sequela. Tamiflu for your mRNA anyone?Well if they both had 2 shots then its proof that the vaccine doesn't work.
In Belgium between oct 21 and nov 5 64% of hopitalized were 2x vaccinated as were 54% of icu admissions...
Sorry but i don't worry about polio or hepB because those vaccines work.
No, vaccine is exactly the right term. Same with the flu vaccine and adult pneumonia vaccines. The basic mechanism is the same as the other vaccines: introduce the body to some part of a infectious agent that will not cause an infection to allow your body to build up immunity to that agent.Reinforcing my assertion that the word vaccine is a misnomer for these treatments. They are a prophylactic treatment that likely reduces severity of disease, particularly in select at-risk populations, with unknown long term sequela. Tamiflu for your mRNA anyone?
Reinforcing my belief that the word "vaccine" is a misnomer and these shots are merely a prophylactic treatment shown to likely reduce symptoms, perhaps significantly in at-risk populations. with unproven/unknown long-term effects. Tamiflu anyone?Well if they both had 2 shots then its proof that the vaccine doesn't work.
In Belgium between oct 21 and nov 5 64% of hopitalized were 2x vaccinated as were 54% of icu admissions...
Sorry but i don't worry about polio or hepB because those vaccines work.
Well if stopping the spread is part of the goal, he is right that it is ineffective as a vaccine. Slowing the spread maybe... reducing symptoms..likely. Increasing minimally or asymptomatic carriers... plausibly.No, vaccine is exactly the right term. Same with the flu vaccine and adult pneumonia vaccines. The basic mechanism is the same as the other vaccines: introduce the body to some part of a infectious agent that will not cause an infection to allow your body to build up immunity to that agent.
With the exception that vaccines typically confer long lasting immunity which is clearly not the case here.No, vaccine is exactly the right term. Same with the flu vaccine and adult pneumonia vaccines. The basic mechanism is the same as the other vaccines: introduce the body to some part of a infectious agent that will not cause an infection to allow your body to build up immunity to that agent.
Most vaccines confer long lasting immunity because our bodies do the same with the pathogens in question. I had chicken pox as a kid and am protected still. Makes sense the vaccine would provide similar protection.With the exception that vaccines typically confer long lasting immunity which is clearly not the case here.
The flu vaccine is in no way a proxy or an excuse for the inefficacy of the covid vaccine: the flu shots are prophylactic, covid vaccines should be therapeutic.
Going to leave this up rather than delete it. Basically the post is riddled with misinformation. See abolt18's post for a dose of reality.Well if they both had 2 shots then its proof that the vaccine doesn't work.
In Belgium between oct 21 and nov 5 64% of hopitalized were 2x vaccinated as were 54% of icu admissions...
Sorry but i don't worry about polio or hepB because those vaccines work.
Please show us an official definition that states a vaccine must confer “long lasting immunity.”With the exception that vaccines typically confer long lasting immunity which is clearly not the case here.
The flu vaccine is in no way a proxy or an excuse for the inefficacy of the covid vaccine: the flu shots are prophylactic, covid vaccines should be therapeutic.
The people who were doing the injections at my hospital would anecdotally say people who’d had covid had more side effects from the vaccine.Wow, thread has been derailed. I suggest that we get back to reporting reactions to Moderna booster.
It appears that there is no rhythm or reason to reactions folks have to vaccine or boosters.
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Look at the case count in Fall/Winter 2020. Look at the daily deaths in Fall/Winter 2020.
Look at the case count in Fall 2021. Look at the daily deaths in Fall 2021.
In case you were wondering if vaccines work.
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Look at the case count in Fall/Winter 2020. Look at the daily deaths in Fall/Winter 2020.
Look at the case count in Fall 2021. Look at the daily deaths in Fall 2021.
In case you were wondering if vaccines work.