Are acceptances to DO schools becoming more difficult?

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mmbrink6 said:
As in MD/DO becoming one in the same?
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No, as in have the same standards for opening a medical school, be it DO or MD. Obviously a great idea.


NontradCA said:
I don't get it? Why not look at trends in number of applicants to matriculates and their stats? They're both going up. /thread
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Exactly what I posted... not sure what the rest of the derailed conversation is about. Other than trying to perpetuate a bias
 
JGimpel said:
Caribbean schools take in a bunch of people, get their tuition money for a few semesters, then dismiss them for various reasons.

So it looks like we've got a few DO students [HL, etc.] that think that everything is fine with our educational system.

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I trimmed all the fluff...can you support either of these claims??


What DO school does that? Do you even know attrition rates? You have Never posted them...they are super low. They are like 2%. Then, if you take out leave of absence, and only use dismissals, its 1%!! 1%!! And guess what...heres a source:

Ridiculously low DO school Attrition Rates


And the second claim. Wut? Who ever said I thought our education system is fine? I have actually led a student group to DC for education reform...but what does that have to do with anything here??


You crazy. DO hater gonna hate...but they dont have to be smart about it, I guess.
 
lets compare new/developing MD schools vs DO ones.

MD:
University of SC -Greenville
University of Houston
UC Merced
UC Riverside
California Northstate
Central Michigan University
Western Michigan University
Oakland University
King College
FIU
UCF
FAU
University of Arizona branch
Temple at West Allegheny
UT Austin
Quinnipiac
UNT
Mayo-AZ
Hofstra

DO:
Wisconsin COM
Alabama COM
KCUMB @ MSSU
Marian University
Southern Utah COM
Liberty University
University of the Incarnate Word
Campbell University
Larkin COM
Monmouth COM
upstate new york Touro branch
Southern California COM
Southwestern Pennsylvania COM
University of St. Augustine for Health Science

and last but not least...

Center for Allied Health Nursing Education

This speaks for itself.
 
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user3 said:
lets compare new/developing MD schools vs DO ones.

MD:
University of SC -Greenville
University of Houston
UC Merced
UC Riverside
California Northstate
Central Michigan University
Western Michigan University
Oakland University
King College
FIU
UCF
FAU
University of Arizona br
Temple at West Allegheny
UT Austin
Quinnipiac
UNT
Mayo-AZ
Hofstra

DO:
Wisconsin COM
Alabama COM
KCUMB @ MSSU
Marian University
Southern Utah COM
Liberty University
University of the Incarnate Word
Campbell University
Larkin COM
Monmouth COM
upstate new york Touro branch
Southern California COM
Southwestern Pennsylvania COM
University of St. Augustine for Health Science

and last but not least...

Center for Allied Health Nursing Education

This speaks for itself.
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So what? Nobody ever said that Osteopathic Schools are being established in prominent public/private universities. What's being said is that they have quality in teaching. Lets take Wayne State University MD. Their MD program is good and rigorous as it should be. Does the university as a whole have a good name? Nope. You won't find it in the top 200 of US news, yet they still teach and produce quality physicians. Same can be said of FIU. Everyone I know in Florida laughs at that school because any idiot can sign up to their undergrad or graduate programs. Do I doubt the quality of their medical school? No.

Also, Center for Allied Health Nursing Education has APPLIED to develop a COM. Does this mean that automatically everyone that applies must get their COM approved and developed? No. Anyone can apply. The fact that you don't know this, or at the least fail to acknowledge it, is what speaks for itself.
 
TriagePreMed said:
So what? Nobody ever said that Osteopathic Schools are being established in prominent public/private universities. What's being said is that they have quality in teaching. Lets take Wayne State University MD. Their MD program is good and rigorous as it should be. Does the university as a whole have a good name? Nope. You won't find it in the top 200 of US news, yet they still teach and produce quality physicians. Same can be said of FIU. Everyone I know in Florida laughs at that school because any idiot can sign up to their undergrad or graduate programs. Do I doubt the quality of their medical school? No.

Also, Center for Allied Health Nursing Education has APPLIED to develop a COM. Does this mean that automatically everyone that applies must get their COM approved and developed? No. Anyone can apply. The fact that you don't know this, or at the least fail to acknowledge it, is what speaks for itself.
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This is true. Half truth claims like this is what creates ridiculous SDN rumors. If you are trying to use school names to support your claim at least use it right.
Many on the DO list are not even in pre-accreditation phase, only exploratory or initial request for further study.
 
Anyone with a dog and a pickup can get themselves on that list. It costs nothing and it means nothing. Literally.
 
Darthberghen said:
Anyone with a dog and a pickup can get themselves on that list. It costs nothing and it means nothing. Literally.
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It costs nothing to be considered an applicant school for the LCME? Um, no... Try $25,000 to start the process. How many people with a dog and a pickup do you know with $25,000 in the bank? Or are you speaking in relative terms here? Sometimes it's hard to pickup on the intended meaning of statements made on the Internet.

http://www.lcme.org/newschoolprocess.htm
 
NeuroLAX said:
It costs nothing to be considered an applicant school for the LCME? Um, no... Try $25,000 to start the process. How many people with a dog and a pickup do you know with $25,000 in the bank? Or are you speaking in relative terms here? Sometimes it's hard to pickup on the intended meaning of statements made on the Internet.

http://www.lcme.org/newschoolprocess.htm
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Does COCA have a similar fee?
 
user3 said:
lets compare new/developing MD schools vs DO ones.

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Does it worry you that you have to bend the truth to attempt to support your views?



I bet you are awesome at research! I bet you get your desired outcomes every time!


High five



**edti:

Isnt it always interesting when the main argument of a thread has been undeniably decided, the opposition decide to change the subject. Remember the original topic?
 
Goro said:
I think it depends upon a number of factors. Our own school is getting quite selective; we outperform a number of allopathic schools in terms of avg GPAs and MCATs of our matriculants. Other schools have been showing similar trends.

This is also true if the economy improves. Medicine may look less promising if, say, Finance or Computer Science jobs become more plentiful. Historically we always see a boost in applications when the economy tanks.


However, with more DO programs opening (and all for that matter), the number of qualified applicants might drop. However, this might not be a given. Using MarionCom as an example, they have to compete for ~125 qualified students in the state of IN for the same pool as does the IU schools, which seat something like 300-400 (I can't remember the exact numbers). Now, are there enough good pre-meds in IN and the surrounding state to fill both the IU and Marion seats? Actually, there appear to be. So for a new school, Marion might just end up being quite selective. Time will tell.
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1) Grade replacement
2) Depends on how reported MCAT score is calculated by the school.
 
user3 said:
lets compare new/developing MD schools vs DO ones.

MD:
University of SC -Greenville
University of Houston
UC Merced
UC Riverside
California Northstate
Central Michigan University
Western Michigan University
Oakland University
King College
FIU
UCF
FAU
University of Arizona br
Temple at West Allegheny
UT Austin
Quinnipiac
UNT
Mayo-AZ
Hofstra

DO:
Wisconsin COM
Alabama COM
KCUMB @ MSSU
Marian University
Southern Utah COM
Liberty University
University of the Incarnate Word
Campbell University
Larkin COM
Monmouth COM
upstate new york Touro branch
Southern California COM
Southwestern Pennsylvania COM
University of St. Augustine for Health Science

and last but not least...

Center for Allied Health Nursing Education

This speaks for itself.
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KCUMB @ MSSU was scrapped when they fired Pletz. Not to mention, why does Joplin, Missouri need a medical school? :laugh:
 
user3 said:
lets compare new/developing MD schools vs DO ones.

MD:
University of SC -Greenville
University of Houston
UC Merced
UC Riverside
California Northstate
Central Michigan University
Western Michigan University
Oakland University
King College
FIU
UCF
FAU
University of Arizona br
Temple at West Allegheny
UT Austin
Quinnipiac
UNT
Mayo-AZ
Hofstra

DO:
Wisconsin COM
Alabama COM
KCUMB @ MSSU
Marian University
Southern Utah COM
Liberty University
University of the Incarnate Word
Campbell University
Larkin COM
Monmouth COM
upstate new york Touro branch
Southern California COM
Southwestern Pennsylvania COM
University of St. Augustine for Health Science

and last but not least...

Center for Allied Health Nursing Education

This speaks for itself.
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Is that a joke?
 
I finally remembered why I put HL on my ignore list. The last time we got into it was him talking about computers in medicine when he had no experience in it. Now he's talking about experiences in medical school when he has none to draw from. It's a shame that my consistent reality check doesn't dissuade him from continuing to proffer information he has no experience in.

His main accomplishment in medicine has been doing well on his MCAT and getting accepted into medical school. If my understanding of his academic timeline is correct, he has never been to medical school, may never go to a DO school and will probably never do an AOA/DO residency, especially if the ACGME fully owns those by then. By the way, we've never been given a straight answer as to what level in his education he is in and he's conveniently never addressed this in any other posts I've seen. HL, you're still a pre-med, right?

Many people gauge a professional school's competitiveness by how many applicants there are per actual matriculating student. Another way to look at this is the percentage of applicants actually accepted into a certain school. If you increase the class size by over a third and the applicant pool stays steady, you would have the same amount of applicants for more seats, thus making the percentage accepted go higher, not lower. There are many ways that you could do the math, this just seems to be the current way our hallowed US News & World Report calculates its selectivity rating. Yes, I have a link for that that you don't have to sign up or pay to view:

http://www.usnews.com/education/bes.../2013/04/30/10-most-selective-medical-schools

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JGimpel said:
I finally remembered why I put HL on my ignore list. The last time we got into it was him talking about computers in medicine when he had no experience in it. Now he's talking about experiences in medical school when he has none to draw from. It's a shame that my consistent reality check doesn't dissuade him from continuing to proffer information he has no experience in.

His main accomplishment in medicine has been doing well on his MCAT and getting accepted into medical school. If my understanding of his academic timeline is correct, he has never been to medical school, may never go to a DO school and will probably never do an AOA/DO residency, especially if the ACGME fully owns those by then. By the way, we've never been given a straight answer as to what level in his education he is in and he's conveniently never addressed this in any other posts I've seen. HL, you're still a pre-med, right?

Many people gauge a professional school's competitiveness by how many applicants there are per actual matriculating student. Another way to look at this is the percentage of applicants actually accepted into a certain school. If you increase the class size by over a third and the applicant pool stays steady, you would have the same amount of applicants for more seats, thus making the percentage accepted go higher, not lower. There are many ways that you could do the math, this just seems to be the current way our hallowed US News & World Report calculates its selectivity rating. Yes, I have a link for that that you don't have to sign up or pay to view:

http://www.usnews.com/education/bes.../2013/04/30/10-most-selective-medical-schools

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just stop.
 
JGimpel said:
I finally remembered why I put HL on my ignore list. The last time we got into it was him talking about computers in medicine when he had no experience in it. Now he's talking about experiences in medical school when he has none to draw from. It's a shame that my consistent reality check doesn't dissuade him from continuing to proffer information he has no experience in.

His main accomplishment in medicine has been doing well on his MCAT and getting accepted into medical school. If my understanding of his academic timeline is correct, he has never been to medical school, may never go to a DO school and will probably never do an AOA/DO residency, especially if the ACGME fully owns those by then. By the way, we've never been given a straight answer as to what level in his education he is in and he's conveniently never addressed this in any other posts I've seen. HL, you're still a pre-med, right?

Many people gauge a professional school's competitiveness by how many applicants there are per actual matriculating student. Another way to look at this is the percentage of applicants actually accepted into a certain school. If you increase the class size by over a third and the applicant pool stays steady, you would have the same amount of applicants for more seats, thus making the percentage accepted go higher, not lower. There are many ways that you could do the math, this just seems to be the current way our hallowed US News & World Report calculates its selectivity rating. Yes, I have a link for that that you don't have to sign up or pay to view:

http://www.usnews.com/education/bes.../2013/04/30/10-most-selective-medical-schools
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You know JGimp...Id actually love if you stopped following me around and trying to debate me. Honestly, I think most people think you are just being a jerk, and your arguments either don't hold water or change.

As a bunch of people here actually know (I've met several peeps on interviews), I am a non trad with years of working in computers and technology, and have set up several EMRs and helped schools launch iPad programs. Tech in education, by the way, was the conversation, though I could speak about either. I also grew up with parents in healthcare and working with them. I still think this doesnt really matter online, arguments should hold their own water...again, no one knows if you are resident, and even if you are, it wouldnt really help you know more about these issues. So, I guess that kills that argument again.


So, instead of changing the subject again...I have zero idea why you bring up US News ranking when we are clearly talking about if DO schools are getting more competitive to get into...feel free to address my earlier data that show that matriculation stats are rising for DO schools (just like MD schools). This shows increasing competition. This should have ended your arguments, right?

So, really bud...either counter the real argument, or don't. Don't try to fight me personally again, I have no desire to do that, and it makes you look bad. I will counter any anti-DO stuff you throw out, but I have no desire to make this a personal feud.


So, yeah, as Surge wrote it above...just stop. (or get on topic, and off personal attacks)
 
I love the experience cop out that's used here on SDN. Especially when the poster is an idiot. This forum proves time and time again that professional achievement means nothing in terms of respect and quality life.
 
JGimpel has fallen into the sad and pathetic. Attacking HL as a person. How predictable.

I told my boss, who is head of his department and editor of a major academic/medical journal at a top 10 MD institution, that I was applying to Touro-CA. He said it was a really good school. He says they prepare people really well on basic anatomy as they buy more cadavers than anyone else in the area. He also said many people teaching there have been trained at top universities either as basic scientists or as residents/fellows. But maybe my boss doesn't have any insight to the realities of DO schools compared to JGimpel :laugh:
 
OK folks, a few of you would rather run to the aid of a fellow pre-med who has no experience in medicine than read the facts I finally had to spoon feed you; I get it.
For the record, this clown follows me to threads and tries to antagonize me until I drop the gloves a bit then complains that I've lost my objectivity and am a meanie. Call the Waaaamblance. :poke:
Calling someone out as an idiot seems more harsh than one pointing out an entirely baseless counter to someone's opinion.
Just as my previous posts to this character were met with blind support from what, 1 or 2 other members, I see the same knee jerk responses from a few members in this thread. The waaaambulance is on its way. :highfive:

Let's keep this thread civil and intelligent.

Please post this to confirm your status: "I am a person that has never attended a med school" before you start your comments so that we know where to file the commentary in the future; it's going to help a lot of people reading through your posts.

Selectivity for DO school acceptance continues to go down as the slowly rising number of DO school applicants is matched up to a much higher number of spots for them.
The stats for successful applicants to DO school vary by a point or two for the MCAT, 0.2-0.3 for the GPAs. Even if you haven't attended your first biostats class in med school, you've got to see that the difference from year to year, MSAR to MSAR is not enough to base an entire discussion on. I even lowered myself to the level of quoting US News and World Report; wasn't that enough?
I may have to work this weekend but the 3 amigos defending themselves at all costs should take a break and relax a bit.
I sincerely hope that everyone, including the 3 premeds attached at the hip, get some rest and try to stay out of trouble. I've got no choice, I'm on the clock.
Maybe I'll go to the resident forum on my next break and post what it's like to be a chief; seems like some people like to follow that line of thinking. I may pick up some respect and camaraderie that way.:laugh:
 
You 3 really should back-off, afterall JGimpel's insight and experience is ranked in the top 5 by US News and World.
 
What if I don't feel like practicing in LA, SF, NY, Chicago, etc? Will there still be good opportunities for most physicians in mid sized cities? Like 100k- 1 million? It seems like DO's should be in high demand with the exception of a few specialties, but I could be wrong.
 
TriagePreMed said:
JGimpel has fallen into the sad and pathetic. Attacking HL as a person. How predictable.

I told my boss, who is head of his department and editor of a major academic/medical journal at a top 10 MD institution, that I was applying to Touro-CA. He said it was a really good school. He says they prepare people really well on basic anatomy as they buy more cadavers than anyone else in the area. He also said many people teaching there have been trained at top universities either as basic scientists or as residents/fellows. But maybe my boss doesn't have any insight to the realities of DO schools compared to JGimpel :laugh:
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Same Gimp, diff thread. Oh well...


And by the way, I interview at TouroCA and LOVED their anatomy lab. They are rightfully proud of it too...its on the top level (3rd floor?) and has one of the best ventilation systems around.


WillburCobb said:
You 3 really should back-off, afterall JGimpel's insight and experience is ranked in the top 5 by US News and World.
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I dont know you...but I love you.
 
I got a better idea Gimpel. Why don't you go tell parents how impossible it is to have a family in med school with no experience in it. No one likes you. Go away.
 
NontradCA said:
I love the experience cop out that's used here on SDN. Especially when the poster is an idiot. This forum proves time and time again that professional achievement means nothing in terms of respect and quality life.
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When you enter medical school, you're not allowed to make medical decisions yet; because you lack experience.
When you get to your clerkships you're allowed little decision making in patient care without a large amount of supervision from attendings; because you lack experience.
When you complete medical school, you're allowed a certain amount of decision making in patient care, also with supervision from attendings based on...your demonstrated experience.
When you finish residency, your employer's credentialing department will not give you all of the possible privileges without documentation of your prior training; because you haven't proven that you've got enough experience to qualify for them.

When you post about topics related to medical school or residency as a pre-med, you are a fraud; because you lack that experience.

Looks like a great deal of our training and medical knowledge is learned by experience, why not consider the advice of someone with that experience?

Pre-meds gonna pre-med.
 
NontradCA said:
I got a better idea Gimpel. Why don't you go tell parents how impossible it is to have a family in med school with no experience in it. No one likes you. Go away.
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Agreed.

Go away Gimple. I've never seen a more boring troll.

And by the way, you are the one insulting people here. You are the "resident" following a pre-med around. I looked at HL and a few others post history and they have never even posted in the resident forums.



Go away
 
Right. But even the residents pointed out your inexperience.
Forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=573771
 
NontradCA said:
I got a better idea Gimpel. Why don't you go tell parents how impossible it is to have a family in med school with no experience in it. No one likes you. Go away.
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That's common sense, no need for experience.
 
JGimpel said:
That's common sense, no need for experience.
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Ok so what more experience do you have on the competitiveness of DO schools than a pre-med who's more recently been accepted? This is a genuine question.
 
NontradCA said:
Ok so what more experience do you have on the competitiveness of DO schools than a pre-med who's more recently been accepted? This is a genuine question.
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Genuine answer:
I've been around in medicine long enough and even participated in interviews of candidates to know:
1. What the adcoms at DO schools are really looking for beyond stats in the acceptable range for their recent matriculants.
2. What troubles students may be having with the curriculum at their respective schools.
3. Definitely what issues schools tend to have setting up and maintaining clerkships in the most supportive and professional manner.

There are a few items for your consideration. None of those come with links as they are small talk during a quick coffee break or after noon lectures while we're throwing away our box lunch with the apple nobody eats. I also know what comes first at morning report that lasts 20 minutes. I know these also from experience, but they're mentioned only to prove that you can learn a lot outside of your books when going through the training process. People talk and others are listening and processing this. I would hope that the readers of these posts would do the same.
 
JGimpel said:
Please post this to confirm your status: "I am a person that has never attended a med school" before you start your comments so that we know where to file the commentary in the future; it's going to help a lot of people reading through your posts.

Selectivity for DO school acceptance continues to go down as the slowly rising number of DO school applicants is matched up to a much higher number of spots for them.
The stats for successful applicants to DO school vary by a point or two for the MCAT, 0.2-0.3 for the GPAs. Even if you haven't attended your first biostats class in med school, you've got to see that the difference from year to year, MSAR to MSAR is not enough to base an entire discussion on. I even lowered myself to the level of quoting US News and World Report; wasn't that enough?
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Okay, I am a person that has never attended a med school. Now in your turn say "I have only attended 1 medical school and am making a commentary about dozens of other schools."

It also seems that biostats in medical school didn't help you much at all. The fact is that Osteopathic schools have kept opening more and more colleges each year. Just last year they opened 3. The average GPA/MCAT across all schools remained roughly the same as the previous year. This can only be accomplished by either having equal selectivity among all schools or certain schools being more selective and having newer schools drag down the number. If you see the averages, you'll see that the better schools are progressively becoming more and more competitive to get into with higher GPA/MCAT and applications received.

So while you can say that on average they are not becoming more competitive, the truth is that each individual school is becoming more selective over time.
 
JGimpel said:
Genuine answer:
I've been around in medicine long enough and even participated in interviews of candidates to know:
1. What the adcoms at DO schools are really looking for beyond stats in the acceptable range for their recent matriculants.
2. What troubles students may be having with the curriculum at their respective schools.
3. Definitely what issues schools tend to have setting up and maintaining clerkships in the most supportive and professional manner.

There are a few items for your consideration. None of those come with links as they are small talk during a quick coffee break or after noon lectures while we're throwing away our box lunch with the apple nobody eats. I also know what comes first at morning report that lasts 20 minutes. I know these also from experience, but they're mentioned only to prove that you can learn a lot outside of your books when going through the training process. People talk and others are listening and processing this. I would hope that the readers of these posts would do the same.
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Ok so you have a beef with AZCOM, and from what I see rightfully so. It's still becoming more competitive every year. (Their number of applicants increased over a 1000 last 5 years). Why apply a generalization to every DO school based on AZCOM.
 
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user3 said:
lets compare new/developing MD schools vs DO ones.

MD:
University of SC -Greenville
University of Houston
UC Merced
UC Riverside
California Northstate
Central Michigan University
Western Michigan University
Oakland University
King College
FIU
UCF
FAU
University of Arizona branch
Temple at West Allegheny
UT Austin
Quinnipiac
UNT
Mayo-AZ
Hofstra
PALM BEACH MEDICAL COLLEGE
DO:
Wisconsin COM
Alabama COM
KCUMB @ MSSU
Marian University
Southern Utah COM
Liberty University
University of the Incarnate Word
Campbell University
Larkin COM
Monmouth COM
upstate new york Touro branch
Southern California COM
Southwestern Pennsylvania COM
University of St. Augustine for Health Science

and last but not least...

Center for Allied Health Nursing Education

This speaks for itself.
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Sooner or later DO/MD will be like Pharm school... LOL
 
JGimpel said:
Genuine answer:
I've been around in medicine long enough and even participated in interviews of candidates to know:
1. What the adcoms at DO schools are really looking for beyond stats in the acceptable range for their recent matriculants.
2. What troubles students may be having with the curriculum at their respective schools.
3. Definitely what issues schools tend to have setting up and maintaining clerkships in the most supportive and professional manner.

There are a few items for your consideration. None of those come with links as they are small talk during a quick coffee break or after noon lectures while we're throwing away our box lunch with the apple nobody eats. I also know what comes first at morning report that lasts 20 minutes. I know these also from experience, but they're mentioned only to prove that you can learn a lot outside of your books when going through the training process. People talk and others are listening and processing this. I would hope that the readers of these posts would do the same.
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Genuine Rebuttal:

The question is, are DO schools getting more competitive. You haven't answered it.

You are talking about:

1- a relationship you might have with an adcom or two. Great, we have adcoms on SDN and they all say competition is going up. Irrelevant info for the topic.
2-studnets opinions on their curriculum. This happens at all schools...DO, MD, high... irrelevant to the topic
3-a personal problem with AZCOM. Thats fine, but thats one school who had some trouble recently...and has otherwise been a great school. I hear they are doing fine. Oh, and also...irrelevant to the topic.



I guarantee numerous people read these threads, but I dont see any of them seeing your point. I know this because of the dozen or so messages I have received from lurkers just today saying thanks for trying to shut you down. Im sure some other users here are getting similar messages as well.

You need to build your credibility back up before you are taken seriously on these threads...I say that objectively, though youll take it as an insult. NO ONE is convinced, or impressed, by your "experience"...how many times do I have to say that this is an online forum. I can change my title to attending right now and say that I know all the adcoms in the US.


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JGimpel said:
Please post this to confirm your status: "I am a person that has never attended a med school" before you start your comments so that we know where to file the commentary in the future; it's going to help a lot of people reading through your posts.

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Just have to chime in. I am a pre-med as well with no experience as a medical student or as a resident or a fellow or an attending. But..

What does experience in the medical field have to do with looking up statistics that are available to everyone who uses the internet?

I have talked with many people are on adcoms at schools throughout NY..both MD and DO. The competition is definitely increasing for both programs. It may not be as significant as many people may think but it definitely is.

Here is the thing though, a lot of people out there are just applying to medical schools because they think it is a safe bet compared to other professions. They will have job security and high income. Unfortunately, many of these people have no idea how competitive it is and will apply with awful grades/mcat/ec's. As a result you get a high influx of unqualified people. So on that US News article saying GW got 14.7k applicants, probably half of them have a <27 mcat with subpar GPA. So every year the number of those people probably drastically increase while the number of actually competitive applicants only slightly rises each year.

Same logic can be applied to DO schools. Touro-NY received about 6k applicants this year. Last year it was around 4-5k.
 
HalfListic said:
And by the way, I interview at TouroCA and LOVED their anatomy lab. They are rightfully proud of it too...its on the top level (3rd floor?) and has one of the best ventilation systems around.
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I have been to their Anatomy lab. It's probably the best part of the college. The ventilation is great, but I think they spent so much money on it because of the jewish tradition that the air of the dead cannot mix with that of the living.
 
It looks like we're up to 5 or 6 people that have a problem. There have been enough personal attacks on me, from saying I'm not liked or respected to flat out calling me an idiot; so I guarantee the mods are coming. By the way, I did get asked if I had any kids by a resident once in one of the forums, but that was it.

Before this thread gets locked, the 5 of you have to let the rest of us know why you would spend the last free time you have before you attend medical school attacking someone in so many ways.

I'm a DO and am doing well in my DO residency.
If you've got buyer's remorse about choosing to attend a DO school, you shouldn't. You made a great choice and should stay the course.
If you're feeling slighted because someone may be diminishing the competitiveness of the system you just went through, stop worrying about it. You beat out a huge percent of the applicant pool to be competitive enough to get in. Go celebrate and stop wondering exactly how you did it.

Chase a squirrel, bake a cake or go for a run; you'll feel better about your decision afterwards.

In my opinion, once you go through what looks like an underground set of tunnels right out of The Count of Monte Cristo, the anatomy lab was pretty impressive at Touro NorCal, but the OMM lab looked liked someone would hit the ceiling if they did HVLA on another person. Those slanted low ceilings were scary looking. I would describe the surrounding area as The Walking Dead with asbestos. Can't wait for the next season to start.
 
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