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[Teepster87]

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This was from the LIS lynch

I also have doubts about LoTF and BBC. Meh. Cycle is long and ongoing, we have time....

And this was during the 1dog/AB lynch

Uhm.... Wow. Still addled by my migraine. It's a left field vote but Deva and LoTF are on my list of suspicious. And WZ made a good point about rocky too. So, in voting..... Lynch rockatiel

With thanks to whoever did kaydubs voting result list , and how she never seemed to vote for another wolf (with a few remaining unknowns) I really am having second guesses. I've thought that it was possible for STL to have voted for a fellow wolf d1, and others have voiced suspicions of her as well. The whole page 37 back and forth with dvmd read to me like how she was posting in Favourite Things (as a wolf). But now I don't know if lotf always has the same tone and style of posting at all times.

Do I have blinders on here?

 

[WildZoo]

This was from the LIS lynch

And this was during the 1dog/AB lynch



With thanks to whoever did kaydubs voting result list , and how she never seemed to vote for another wolf (with a few remaining unknowns) I really am having second guesses. I've thought that it was possible for STL to have voted for a fellow wolf d1, and others have voiced suspicions of her as well. The whole page 37 back and forth with dvmd read to me like how she was posting in Favourite Things (as a wolf). But now I don't know if lotf always has the same tone and style of posting at all times.

Do I have blinders on here?

I'm now remembering SOV saying something about lotf being a late vote in a wolf lynch that basically decided it (I think this is why I had her lower on my list for a while...and then I forgot about it and moved her up). I think he was referring to the AB lynch? Will double check here in a minute.

 

[dyachei]

official lynch tally:
WZ 1 (sobsob)
jilary 2 (WZ, BBC)
lotf 2 (teep, rojo)
BBC 1 (BSC)

5/12 votes cast
4/12 minimums met

people in danger of being modkilled today: 2/12

 

[WildZoo]

I'm now remembering SOV saying something about lotf being a late vote in a wolf lynch that basically decided it (I think this is why I had her lower on my list for a while...and then I forgot about it and moved her up). I think he was referring to the AB lynch? Will double check here in a minute.

Found it. Ok so this was the final lynch tally, at 10:05am

Official lynch tally:
1dog 4 (BSC, genny, deva, teep)
ab 6 (PBC, dvmd, zen, mq, 1dog, lotf)
LIS 2 (BBC, jilary)
rocky 2 (wz, kdizzle)
BBC 2 (guis, rojo)
guis 2 (LIS, guis)

18/21 votes
6/21 minimums met

Lotf had posted her vote about 5 minutes before that, and then lynch was closed an hour later. So...SOV's point was that without her vote things could have turned the other way and 1dog could have been lynched instead of AB. To that I say, well...maybe. Nobody else voted after her, AB was already in the lead by one vote...so less strong of a case I think. Not to mention there is still a chance 1dog is also a wolf, in which case that vote wouldn't matter at all. Note that kaydubs stayed away from both of those lynches and instead put her vote on a third party.

 

[DVMDream]

Ok at lunch, this will have to be quick, I don't have much time. I'll be much better after tomorrow because I have a 3 day weekend.

Anyway, someone mentioned they aren't suspicious of PBC because she was first vote on AB. That's a good point, but she was an early vote that day and wolves do vote other wolves. I don't recall her returning at all that lynch either but I could be wrong. Anyway, my feelings on her are more just tummy rumblings.

SOV, yeah he just always has me thinking he is a wolf. Mostly his insistence on lynching LIS.

Jilary is most of the same reasons everyone has already mentioned.

Then, LoTF because there have been suspicions for a while. LIS had suspicions very early on too.

Those are my current thoughts.

I haven't had time to comb through the thread like everyone else has, that won't happen until Saturday, so for now my memory and previous analysis is what I'm going off of.

I'll put in an official vote before I head back to work.

 

[TheGirlWithTheFernTattoo]

Now please come tell me if this logic is

This was from the LIS lynch

And this was during the 1dog/AB lynch



With thanks to whoever did kaydubs voting result list , and how she never seemed to vote for another wolf (with a few remaining unknowns) I really am having second guesses. I've thought that it was possible for STL to have voted for a fellow wolf d1, and others have voiced suspicions of her as well. The whole page 37 back and forth with dvmd read to me like how she was posting in Favourite Things (as a wolf). But now I don't know if lotf always has the same tone and style of posting at all times.

Do I have blinders on here?

She hasn't seemed to vote for another wolf so far, but should we automatically clear the last 2 unknowns she voted for? I just can't see an experienced wolf not voting for any other wolves AT ALL (based on what the "norms" are for wolfing).

 

[DVMDream]

I hate to break a tie, but I feel like that's better than a random vote on someone else.

For now, Lynch LoTF

If I get a moment to check in later, I will.

 

[dyachei]

official lynch tally:
WZ 1 (sobsob)
jilary 2 (WZ, BBC)
lotf 3 (teep, rojo, dvmd)
BBC 1 (BSC)

6/12 votes cast
4/12 minimums met

people in danger of being modkilled today: 2/12

 

[kaydubs]

***
Me and STL wrecking this joint. Crazeness.
***

 

[Glammyre]

Now please come tell me if this logic is

She hasn't seemed to vote for another wolf so far, but should we automatically clear the last 2 unknowns she voted for? I just can't see an experienced wolf not voting for any other wolves AT ALL (based on what the "norms" are for wolfing).

But that's just it, they're norms. I think experienced wolves are aware of how people think wolves play, and would try to subvert that to mess with villager interpretation.

Right now, I don't assume kaydubs definitely voted for a wolf. Neither do I assume she never voted for a wolf. Best to just read player's posts, and try not to let prior expectations color interpretations.

 

[1doggeek]

Now please come tell me if this logic is

She hasn't seemed to vote for another wolf so far, but should we automatically clear the last 2 unknowns she voted for? I just can't see an experienced wolf not voting for any other wolves AT ALL (based on what the "norms" are for wolfing).

I don't think we automatically clear anyone. I also don't think kdubs voting for people automatically makes them more suspicious though. It might be a "rule" for wolves, but rules are made to be broken. 😉

 

[1doggeek]

Ninja'D by zen!

I especially agree with letting players posts be where my main suspicions are coming from... Things like if kaydubs voted for them may or may not support those suspicions, but I feel like I can best get an idea whether or not someone is "off" based on reading their posts for weirdness.

 

[1doggeek]

Found it. Ok so this was the final lynch tally, at 10:05am

Lotf had posted her vote about 5 minutes before that, and then lynch was closed an hour later. So...SOV's point was that without her vote things could have turned the other way and 1dog could have been lynched instead of AB. To that I say, well...maybe. Nobody else voted after her, AB was already in the lead by one vote...so less strong of a case I think. Not to mention there is still a chance 1dog is also a wolf, in which case that vote wouldn't matter at all. Note that kaydubs stayed away from both of those lynches and instead put her vote on a third party.

My vote for AB was technically the deciding vote if I remember right. I guess it was close enough yet that LoTF's vote was important to shift the lynch the right direction, but it is a good point that her vote was pretty close to close. Especially if she was the last one to vote that day. There were a lot of people deciding between me and AB who basically said they weren't switching unless there was good evidence to the contrary, which wasn't likely to show up at that point.

 

[Glammyre]

Rereading through the thread, and I found this.

I've quickly read the past few pages, will have to go through again. I didn't expect kaydubs to be a villager.

Emphasis mine.

Um... Teep? Typo? It's really low as a reason for wolfiness, but this reads as possible slip that you feel kaydubs is on your team.

 

[1doggeek]

Rereading through the thread, and I found this.


Emphasis mine.

Um... Teep? Typo? It's really low as a reason for wolfiness, but this reads as possible slip that you feel kaydubs is on your team.

I read this more as "I had suspicions of kaydubs, her being a wolf doesn't surprise me".
Not that it's any less wolfy.

 

[Skimble]

Ok at lunch, this will have to be quick, I don't have much time. I'll be much better after tomorrow because I have a 3 day weekend.

Anyway, someone mentioned they aren't suspicious of PBC because she was first vote on AB. That's a good point, but she was an early vote that day and wolves do vote other wolves. I don't recall her returning at all that lynch either but I could be wrong. Anyway, my feelings on her are more just tummy rumblings.

SOV, yeah he just always has me thinking he is a wolf. Mostly his insistence on lynching LIS.

Jilary is most of the same reasons everyone has already mentioned.

Then, LoTF because there have been suspicions for a while. LIS had suspicions very early on too.

Those are my current thoughts.

I haven't had time to comb through the thread like everyone else has, that won't happen until Saturday, so for now my memory and previous analysis is what I'm going off of.

I'll put in an official vote before I head back to work.

No, I said PBC was the first to mention the weirdness of ABs postings being off and it was the day prior to her lynch. I think that holds some merit.

 

[1doggeek]

No, I said PBC was the first to mention the weirdness of ABs postings being off and it was the day prior to her lynch. I think that holds some merit.

I can see wolves throwing a vote for another wolf... Especially in early days. I think it definitely does hold merit though when someone points out things against players who turn up as wolves. There's a difference between "I have feels so I'm voting for this person" and actually picking out reasons why that person's play is off.
Unless I'm totally wrong and that is a common wolf tactic. 😛

 

[DVMDream]

No, I said PBC was the first to mention the weirdness of ABs postings being off and it was the day prior to her lynch. I think that holds some merit.

Ah, ok. That makes more sense

 

[1doggeek]

Random thought on the rojo suspicions... Didn't AB try and say rojo was a wolf early game? I thought I recalled them commenting that it was suspicious that rojo asked STL to seer and clear him.
Not that he couldn't be a convert, if we have one, but that helps convince me that rojo at least wasn't an original.
(I'm on mobile or I would try and find the post and quote it, will look later when I'm at a computer if that happens before close).

 

[LadyOtheFarm]

***lynch STL***

I don't know that I have 10 relevant things to say in a day...

Genny, who did you speculate about? I can only remember you saying STL was suspicious for his wording and behavior in posts, which I agree with.

I mentioned earlier that I thought RM was having a bad WW day and I think he may currently be an early lynch leader because he made fun of the noobs. 😛 I'm open to changing my lynch vote to someone else.

Unlynch RM, lynch STL, for now.

This appears to me you are trying to really frame how you want people to look for wolves, and it conveniently points away from you. I always have a vendetta against you, I'll admit it. But I get feels about you.

###Lynch stl###

I think you make a lot of sense.

unlynch guis
lynch STL

Sorry if conversation has moved way past this, but I found these quotes at lunch time and hadn't been able to sit and think until now.

The votes for STL went:
MQ: RNG probably
Vetmedhead: for both genny's suspicions and their own
Rojo: framing wolf hunting (something that DVMD and SOV and Rojo had all kinda been doing too.)
Genny: agreeing with Vetmedhead that her own suspicion was worth acting on

From this reading, I am torn between DVMD and Rojo, but also sheltermed was really, really sketch. So maybe WZ?

 

[WildZoo]

Random thought on the rojo suspicions... Didn't AB try and say rojo was a wolf early game? I thought I recalled them commenting that it was suspicious that rojo asked STL to seer and clear him.
Not that he couldn't be a convert, if we have one, but that helps convince me that rojo at least wasn't an original.
(I'm on mobile or I would try and find the post and quote it, will look later when I'm at a computer if that happens before close).

Yeah i mentioned that a day or two ago. She also was all over RM on day 1 at one point which made me thing SOV isn't an original since i doubt a new wolf would do that.

 

[WildZoo]

Sorry if conversation has moved way past this, but I found these quotes at lunch time and hadn't been able to sit and think until now.

The votes for STL went:
MQ: RNG probably
Vetmedhead: for both genny's suspicions and their own
Rojo: framing wolf hunting (something that DVMD and SOV and Rojo had all kinda been doing too.)
Genny: agreeing with Vetmedhead that her own suspicion was worth acting on

From this reading, I am torn between DVMD and Rojo, but also sheltermed was really, really sketch. So maybe WZ?

What exactly was sketch about sheltermed?

I mean i know i said i raised an eyebrow of suspicion before i remebered i had replaced her, but that was also before i realized this was her first game (or second?). With that in mind her posts read like a new player trying to figure out what's going on. You keep bringing me up because of her posts but not really saying anything specific so I'm just wondering. Also kind of sucks that my play isn't being mentioned at all in your thoughts on me.

 

[TheGirlWithTheFernTattoo]

I think we can take ABs actions at face value-based on her comments I did not really see her playing strategically and I'm not sure she would have listened to advice the wolves gave her in chat


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[Teepster87]

Rereading through the thread, and I found this.


Emphasis mine.

Um... Teep? Typo? It's really low as a reason for wolfiness, but this reads as possible slip that you feel kaydubs is on your team.

Whoa, woops. Yes that should have been wolf. I'm going to blame that on the time again. I know I read the results and processed it as wolf (I think some of my later post used reasoning with the results of kaydubs death). I don't know how I wrote villager there

 

[WildZoo]

Whoa, woops. Yes that should have been wolf. I'm going to blame that on the time again. I know I read the results and processed it as wolf (I think some of my later post used reasoning with the results of kaydubs death). I don't know how I wrote villager there

Just going along with your general foot in mouth theme for the game 😉

 

[Teepster87]

Just going along with your general foot in mouth theme for the game 😉

I think I've got alot more than just the foot in there at this point.

 

[LadyOtheFarm]

****
@LadyOtheFarm , you're a riot.
****

I do what I can!

(Please let someone with kids or at least a poorly suppressed inner child know what what this reference is from)

 

[Teepster87]

Just went back to try to reread ABs posts. I'm on mobile and can't key in her name. But went back to the first few pages and say that she's banned, is that why I can't search for her posts? Is there an alternate method to searching for a banned members comments?

 

[WildZoo]

Just went back to try to reread ABs posts. I'm on mobile and can't key in her name. But went back to the first few pages and say that she's banned, is that why I can't search for her posts? Is there an alternate method to searching for a banned members comments?

Yeah search doesn't work for banned members. You can click on her name and then the number next to "messages" to get all of her posts, you'll just have to pick out the ones from the game.

 

[LadyOtheFarm]

I can see wolves throwing a vote for another wolf... Especially in early days. I think it definitely does hold merit though when someone points out things against players who turn up as wolves. There's a difference between "I have feels so I'm voting for this person" and actually picking out reasons why that person's play is off.
Unless I'm totally wrong and that is a common wolf tactic. 😛

The one time I was a wolf, 2 of my fellow wolves pointed out how I was off before the mob pile started. I kinda remember it as they were what pushed the lynch my way... but I was working 14 hour crazy days at the spay/neuter clinic so my stress level was pretty up there too.

 

[1doggeek]

The one time I was a wolf, 2 of my fellow wolves pointed out how I was off before the mob pile started. I kinda remember it as they were what pushed the lynch my way... but I was working 14 hour crazy days at the spay/neuter clinic so my stress level was pretty up there too.

Well I suppose, all's fair in WW 😉 😛

 

[LadyOtheFarm]

I am not a wolf. I am a villager. Please try looking elsewhere if the vote is still on me by the time I catch up.

And yes, I do try to read the same way, wolf or villager. If I sound the same regardless, I don't need to lie or make stuff up... hopefully. We'll see if I can live longer than a few days the next time I'm a wolf.

Note: I have lived many days now as a villager, so obviously there is no part of that last paragraph that references wolf and this game being a thing. Don't even try. You will break my brain.

 

[WildZoo]

I'm a wolf

😱

 

[LadyOtheFarm]

What exactly was sketch about sheltermed?

I mean i know i said i raised an eyebrow of suspicion before i remebered i had replaced her, but that was also before i realized this was her first game (or second?). With that in mind her posts read like a new player trying to figure out what's going on. You keep bringing me up because of her posts but not really saying anything specific so I'm just wondering. Also kind of sucks that my play isn't being mentioned at all in your thoughts on me.

I'm on mobile so seriously it was work to pull up the earlier posts, but the sheltermed thing was somebody brought up the game where everybody was a wolf. Sheltermed said something along the lines of 'wait, could that be what is happening this game?'

I said something like 'Any villager would know that there are villagers in this game so it can't be true in this game.

And either I am a villager or I'm not actually playing in this game since I didn't get a PM '

STL then took my post as an excuse to lynch me saying 'Some people didn't get PMs at all.'
I at first assumed he had just misread my post, but later wondered if he was a wolf trying to help a noob wolf out by distracting away. STL was a wolf, which again makes me question sheltermed and in turn you.

You being subbed in when others were mod killed does bring up the age old rule of "Subs are always wolves."

And yeah, there have been teeny, tiny itty bitty things in your own posts, but you are right, by yourself, without sheltermed, I would totally have you further down on my list. But I can't read you well, so I use context to try.

 

[LadyOtheFarm]

😱

Broken. Puddle of a woman. I has sads.

 

[Teepster87]

I just wasted my nap time trying to slog through ABs old posts. I don't think it was worth all the effort.

 

[1doggeek]

Well. Just remembered 10pm is not 10pm my time, and I won't be home at computer by then. Was hoping to go back on before putting in a vote.

***lynch BBC*** I had suspicions of her earlier in the game and nothing much has happened to change them.
Was feeling an SOV lynch but the point about AB being so against RM is a good one, I had forgotten they were the same.

 

[WildZoo]

I'm on mobile so seriously it was work to pull up the earlier posts, but the sheltermed thing was somebody brought up the game where everybody was a wolf. Sheltermed said something along the lines of 'wait, could that be what is happening this game?'

I said something like 'Any villager would know that there are villagers in this game so it can't be true in this game.

And either I am a villager or I'm not actually playing in this game since I didn't get a PM '

STL then took my post as an excuse to lynch me saying 'Some people didn't get PMs at all.'
I at first assumed he had just misread my post, but later wondered if he was a wolf trying to help a noob wolf out by distracting away. STL was a wolf, which again makes me question sheltermed and in turn you.

You being subbed in when others were mod killed does bring up the age old rule of "Subs are always wolves."

And yeah, there have been teeny, tiny itty bitty things in your own posts, but you are right, by yourself, without sheltermed, I would totally have you further down on my list. But I can't read you well, so I use context to try.

She actually said "wait is that a thing that could happen?" or something along those lines (I'm on mobile too...heh), whatever she said did not specifically reference this game, so I read it as a general question, not speculation on this game in particular. Yes, I realize I am biased, but I know she was a villager so I feel inclined to defend her 😉

To me STL's response looked like an attempt to come up with a good reason to cast a vote, something more substantial than RNG.

There is no rule of subs being wolves. Subs are pretty rare in the first place so I don't even know how there could be a rule. There was only one person left on the sub list, no one else asked to be subbed in, that is why only one person was subbed that day. I imagine the choice of which player was subbed was first come first served. Or maybe RNG. I can tell you that sheltermed did request to be subbed in PM.

If you have things from my own posts that I can address, by all means, let me know.

 

[dyachei]

official lynch tally:
WZ 1 (sobsob)
jilary 2 (WZ, BBC)
lotf 3 (teep, rojo, dvmd)
BBC 2 (BSC, 1dog)

7/12 votes cast
6/12 minimums met

 

[LadyOtheFarm]

There is no rule of subs being wolves. Subs are pretty rare in the first place so I don't even know how there could be a rule. There was only one person left on the sub list, no one else asked to be subbed in, that is why only one person was subbed that day. I imagine the choice of which player was subbed was first come first served. Or maybe RNG. I can tell you that sheltermed did request to be subbed in PM.

It's a joke rule as far as I can tell but has been shown to be correct in a few games I've read and I think one of the ones I played. We even brought it up earlier in this game.

I'm starting to feel bad about my suspicion and often, when I do that, the person ends up a wolf. I need a vote cast anyway soooo

Lynch WZ

Just don't be surprised if I change it because I still am more suspicious of others. You are just on my mind right now.

 

[thedrjojo]

Ugh, I'm gonna give lotf the benefit of the doubt, but I don't like her constantly trying to say I'm a wolf...

##unLynch lotf, Lynch bbc##

 

[Glammyre]

I'm liking Jilary's defense today. LotF, on the other hand... something about the tone of defensiveness sounds weird. Also, earlier you said you had obvious villager tells, and now you're saying you play the same.

lynch lotf

 

[LadyOtheFarm]

I'm liking Jilary's defense today. LotF, on the other hand... something about the tone of defensiveness sounds weird. Also, earlier you said you had obvious villager tells, and now you're saying you play the same.

lynch lotf

Right. I play exactly the same way and do not lie if I can at all help it. Thus, if I flat out say I am a villager, I am a villager. It is a pretty obvious tell.

I am a villager. I am not a wolf.

Clear as mud?

 

[WildZoo]

It's a joke rule as far as I can tell but has been shown to be correct in a few games I've read and I think one of the ones I played. We even brought it up earlier in this game.

I'm starting to feel bad about my suspicion and often, when I do that, the person ends up a wolf. I need a vote cast anyway soooo

Lynch WZ

Just don't be surprised if I change it because I still am more suspicious of others. You are just on my mind right now.

It was brought up earlier by someone who was also subbed into the game...

I just feel like you're really reaching here. Not trying to make you feel bad about your suspicions, I'm trying to address them, but you're not giving me much to work with.

 

[dyachei]

official lynch tally:
WZ 2 (sobsob, lotf)
jilary 2 (WZ, BBC)
lotf 3 (teep, dvmd, zen)
BBC 3 (BSC, 1dog, rojo)

10/12 votes cast
7/12 minimums met

 

[thedrjojo]

official lynch tally:
WZ 2 (sobsob, lotf)
jilary 2 (WZ, BBC)
lotf 3 (teep, dvmd, zen)
BBC 3 (BSC, 1dog, rojo)

10/12 votes cast
7/12 minimums met

What happens with a tie...

 

[Skimble]

So I really hate ties, and I'll break this one for now and check back after my shower.

Lynch bbc

Only because for now I'm not totally feeling the LotF lynch.

 

[LadyOtheFarm]

I don't think I like the BBC vote, but for self preservation and and to break the tie:

Unlynch WZ
Lynch BBC

WZ, please don't be a wolf.

 

[LadyOtheFarm]

Ahhhh friendz!

So I really hate ties, and I'll break this one for now and check back after my shower.

Lynch bbc

Only because for now I'm not totally feeling the LotF lynch.

 

[Skimble]

Someone asked earlier why I had my feels. For DVMD it's mostly that she's been under the radar and really, is there any better way to play as a wolf? She's posted a fair amount but I felt like there hasn't been a ton of content.

SOV - he's hard to read because he's erratic sometimes, even as a villager. He was also part of LIS's list, which may not mean anything.

WZ always guns hard to lynch people whether wolf or villager. I've often assumed she was a wolf because of this and I've often been wrong, but still a feeling I can't shake.

So... tldr.... Yeah, mostly just feels except minor points for DVMD and Rojo that I mentioned earlier.