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You guys suck, the sky is falling, and look at my truck. I just took 10 minutes out of my life to read the strangest thread in the history of SDN. It started with roid rage and ended with an adventure outdoors round table. Just struck me as very bizarre.

It absolutely was a strange thread. Very schizophrenic. But as a participant it was strangely refreshing.... Before censorship.
 
You guys suck, the sky is falling, and look at my truck. I just took 10 minutes out of my life to read the strangest thread in the history of SDN. It started with roid rage and ended with an adventure outdoors round table. Just struck me as very bizarre.

Roid rage!!! :laugh:

Nah man those days are over.

Just trying to give this great site a little kick start.

Learning and education doesn't have to be painful and dry....and this site has been both lately.

Yea I agree with the censorship post.

Arch came in and squashed it...btw Arch that was pretty judgmental, offering your opinion on my little tidbit (which WAS funny btw)! Lighten up EZ E!!

OH SORRY... FORGOT WE WERE IN A LIBRARY....

"SHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!"


Have some fun, dudes.

Life is short.

Interact.

Sans yawns.
 
Anybody have any cheese......?

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😀
 
Frankly, it was one of the more enjoyable threads in a while. Too bad it was closed so early, I like where it was going (I didn't even read it until it was too late to partake). This forum has been kinda dry lately.
 
lol it was pretty entertaining, glad I had a chance to taint the thread with a little cruiser action before it closed. Well, back to the Lib. :laugh:
 
Frankly, it was one of the more enjoyable threads in a while. Too bad it was closed so early,

Yeah Arch.

Your opinion of "this thread is going nowhere so closing..."

Whatever dude.

It was harmless, entertaining, and sparked some interest.

Looks like you've been hanging with your bow tied internist buddies a little too much!

Bad call.

Jet throws flag:

"Personal foul,

number 55,

EZ E,

LIBRARIAN-COLLAR tackle,

fifteen yards,

automatic

first down."
 
Re: censorship

The thread in question was not closed on one person's whim.

Keep in mind that the SDN anesthesia forum does not exist in a vacuum. Though we've long been afforded the freedom to run things in a more laissez faire manner, we are still subject to the site-wide terms of use. Although Arch, I, and cchoukal are the three anesthesia mods, there are other mods and admins with an interest in this forum.


Anyone's free to start a thread iN any funky bold faced font they like about trucks, the wilderness, watches, whiskey, politics, or dressing up like Kenny from South Park.

What one is not free to do is throw old-timer weight around and make blatant attempts to intimidate new users (eg "First and only warning to a dude with TWENTY FOUR posts"). If one reason for closing the thread had to be highlighted, that's it.


Narcotized said:
Where it was going was pickup trucks and wilderness survival. It was so far gone into that that closing the thread seemed a bit after the fact.

Unfortunately yes, it was a bit after the fact. Efforts to avoid knee-jerk moderating mean sometimes we get behind the curve as we consider what to do, or whether we should do anything at all. We were behind the curve on that thread.


They say players win games, coaches lose games, and referees ruin games. I don't know if there's an internet forum corollary to that, but moderators are certainly more akin to referees ...

So we do our best to stay out of the way, but not let things get out of hand.



Executive summary - anyone can be as off-topic or entertaining as they want, but no one person owns this place, the TOS are always there in the background, so don't be a twit and your threads won't be closed. 😉
 
Despite the ruler marks on my backhand, I think the mods have been pretty fair at keeping the peace. I respect each of them in their own way.

That being said, we all need to advocate to prevent double standards. Personally, my idea of a good time (or well spent time) isn't to report TOS violations towards anyone who's ideas I dont' like, or disagree with, or hell, even find offensive. But, not all feel this way, quite obviously.

I'd love to stur up the pot on any variety of issues. But, we've gone a bit over the top with respect to catering to the whiners on this forum. They are the minority of posters whom complain to the mods whenever they don't like a particular topic, subject, or opinion on a matter.

BUT, isn't that what free speech is all about?? Don't debates which challenge us all, cause us to reflect on perhaps long held opinions or belief systems, making us challenge them, and thus we grow in the process?? I've always thought so.

Clearly we need to abide by the laws of the land here. But, let's not go the OTHER way with respect to thought provoking, uncomfortable, controversial subject matter. Clinical or otherwise.

OR, we can all sit around and agree on matters of clinical practice, finance, geopolitics, religion, or whatever is the flavor of the day. But, I'm not so sure that's what users are looking for when they come here, and take time out of their day in order to view, read, and contribute to threads.

Anyway, now that I've been doing anesthesia for a while now, I look forward to contributing to some more clinical aspects of the forum.
 
...Anyone's free to start a thread iN any funky bold faced font they like about trucks, the wilderness, watches, whiskey, politics, or dressing up like Kenny from South Park.


:laugh::laugh::laugh:

On an unrelated note, who is going to let me crash on their couch in San Fransisco in 2013?

[YOUTUBE]Jvk4D-GlUgE[/YOUTUBE]
 
Re: censorship

The thread in question was not closed on one person's whim.

Keep in mind that the SDN anesthesia forum does not exist in a vacuum. Though we've long been afforded the freedom to run things in a more laissez faire manner, we are still subject to the site-wide terms of use. Although Arch, I, and cchoukal are the three anesthesia mods, there are other mods and admins with an interest in this forum.


Anyone's free to start a thread iN any funky bold faced font they like about trucks, the wilderness, watches, whiskey, politics, or dressing up like Kenny from South Park.

What one is not free to do is throw old-timer weight around and make blatant attempts to intimidate new users (eg "First and only warning to a dude with TWENTY FOUR posts"). If one reason for closing the thread had to be highlighted, that's it.




Unfortunately yes, it was a bit after the fact. Efforts to avoid knee-jerk moderating mean sometimes we get behind the curve as we consider what to do, or whether we should do anything at all. We were behind the curve on that thread.


They say players win games, coaches lose games, and referees ruin games. I don't know if there's an internet forum corollary to that, but moderators are certainly more akin to referees ...

So we do our best to stay out of the way, but not let things get out of hand.



Executive summary - anyone can be as off-topic or entertaining as they want, but no one person owns this place, the TOS are always there in the background, so don't be a twit and your threads won't be closed. 😉

Jesus.

Really? You've got like seventeen dudes in their twenties with their academic bow ties analyzing every post?

Censorship sucks, man.

Btw Pgg, I'm far from a

Twit,

as you

so eloquently

put it.

My, how things have LIBRARIAN

changed.


Why are you censoring controversy?

Like Plank previously said,

Are you and your bow-tie-wearing moderators so concerned with being

PC

that you are

Stifling

Learning?


Man how I deplore academics....

The ones "In Charge" at our teaching institutions are

PREDICTABLY

inferior

to private practice physicians.....not all, but most.

They are there, making 300k

for a reason.


You "moderators"

are

"leading"

this forum

into the same trap.
 
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Btw Pgg, I'm far from a

Twit,

as you

so eloquently

put it.

Jet, not that it matters, but I like you. I'm glad you're here to contribute.

No, really.

But do me two favors.

1) Take a step back, and look at what you wrote to the med student of 25 posts, and tell me with a straight face that you weren't being a twit.

2) Search the forum and count the number of closed threads (that weren't CRNA trollfests / spam) in the last year, and then get back to me about this horrible censorship problem that's so teeth-gnash-worthy.


There's a sticky from Lee at the top of this forum. TOS 2 & 9 are VERY loosely enforced here, but we can't and won't ignore them completely.

There is PLENTY of room to argue, debate, and gripe about virtually ANY topic related or un-related to anesthesia.




you are

Stifling

Learning?

:laugh:

Seriously? Put down the bong.

What exactly were you attempting to teach in the closed thread?
 
Jet, not that it matters, but I like you. I'm glad you're here to contribute.

No, really.

But do me two favors.

1) Take a step back, and look at what you wrote to the med student of 25 posts, and tell me with a straight face that you weren't being a twit.

2) Search the forum and count the number of closed threads (that weren't CRNA trollfests / spam) in the last year, and then get back to me about this horrible censorship problem that's so teeth-gnash-worthy.


There's a sticky from Lee at the top of this forum. TOS 2 & 9 are VERY loosely enforced here, but we can't and won't ignore them completely.

There is PLENTY of room to argue, debate, and gripe about virtually ANY topic related or un-related to anesthesia.






:laugh:

Seriously? Put down the bong.

What exactly were you attempting to teach in the closed thread?

Ok ok ok

Give me some lee way.

I've spoken with Lee on the phone at times in past about this and that, so don't throw the

Lee

thing around like you're

Paris Hilton.

Pgg, I like you too man.

You can read me the

READ OF RIGHTS

to this forum like you solely did and

ya know what?

I respect you for that.

But, uhhhh, yea

I've got my own posting style.

Here's the message to your

Bow Tie Wearing Moderators That Are Telling You What To Do:

Dudes,

WTF?

Relax man.

There's no fight here.

I'm an

ANESTHESIOLOGIST

advocate.


Yeah, my vernacular is foreign sometimes but, well,

The truth hurts sometimes.

Sooooo....

Moderators,

(I feel like I'm in a communist country right now)

what's your feeling right now?

Are you feeling uncomfortable, emailing your nearest 24 year old moderator on what to do?


Lol
 
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The line is fuzzy and seldom really enforced, but attempts to intimidate other users are on the 'not OK' side of it.

Argue with them, challenge them, tell them they're know-nothing' wet-behind-the-ears residents/students/premeds/whatever who lack the experience cajones and intestinal fortitude to pack your pipe, mock their foolishness with merciless wit, laugh at them with fontsize=7 boldfaced HAHHAHA, but 'STFU or else' flavored stuff has always been, and always will be, a problem. Even here.


As for the rest of the censorship 🙄 debate, my above invitation to search for other threads I/we have closed stands.
 
What exactly were you attempting to teach in the closed thread?


How shallow minded you seem with that post because

it's not about

THIS ONE POST OR THAT ONE POST, PGG,

YEARD ME??


It's about

GATHERING PEOPLE THAT WANNA LEARN.

It works.

You missed the forest for the trees man, like your bow tie wearing

internist friends

BUT FEAR NOT

alotta people out there...pre meds, med students, residents, and even some attendings

GOT IT

according to my abundant emails.

Your judgement is not the end, Slim,

even tho you have passed it.

Which should make you ponder why you are passing judgement in the first place.
 
Pssst, Jet ...

Don't look now, but we're arguing. And the thread is still open. 😀

Uhhhhhhh....

YEP.

You got me.

And

YOU'RE RIGHT.:laugh:

That's big, man.

I wanna protect the ability of this forum to accommodate

DIFFERENCE OF OPINION

WITHOUT CENSORSHIP


Arch recently censored a thread that should not have been censored.

And you, PGG, are

like you are reading some kinda cue card outta some kinda socialistic realm..

I encourage you budding private practice attendings to

look the other way from the

NURSE ADMINISTRATOR TYPE THINKING

that's being shown here and

DO LESS.

STEVE JOBS WORE JEANS TO PRESS RELEASES.

Think about that the next time you wanna act like a nurse

STUPIDVISOR

here.
 
Not that I want to continue this argument or add fuel to the fire but I just wanted to contribute one final point. As a medical student, we look up to attendings as leaders in positions we one day hope to reach. I understand that JPP has been around this forum more than I have, has more experience than I will have for a long time, and is a more valuable member to the forum than I am.

Regardless, that is not an excuse to threaten people on a forum and to call someone gay for not knowing what the U is. Really? That behavior is unacceptable from anyone, let alone a professional physician. I may not be in a position to say/do much but that's how I feel regardless of if I get no support in that belief. This forum should be a place to learn and build a career, not a place to be harassed and told "you guys suck".

:laugh:

You've missed the forest for the trees.

I could say alot but I'll refrain.

JET THE FBI PROFILER COULD NAIL YOUR PROFILE.😀
 
Not that I want to continue this argument or add fuel to the fire but I just wanted to contribute one final point. As a medical student, we look up to attendings as leaders in positions we one day hope to reach. I understand that JPP has been around this forum more than I have, has more experience than I will have for a long time, and is a more valuable member to the forum than I am.

Regardless, that is not an excuse to threaten people on a forum and to call someone gay for not knowing what the U is. Really? That behavior is unacceptable from anyone, let alone a professional physician. I may not be in a position to say/do much but that's how I feel regardless of if I get no support in that belief. This forum should be a place to learn and build a career, not a place to be harassed and told "you guys suck".

You're new but you're right on the money. Please feel free to post.
 
Not that I want to continue this argument or add fuel to the fire but I just wanted to contribute one final point. As a medical student, we look up to attendings as leaders in positions we one day hope to reach. I understand that JPP has been around this forum more than I have, has more experience than I will have for a long time, and is a more valuable member to the forum than I am.

Regardless, that is not an excuse to threaten people on a forum and to call someone gay for not knowing what the U is. Really? That behavior is unacceptable from anyone, let alone a professional physician. I may not be in a position to say/do much but that's how I feel regardless of if I get no support in that belief. This forum should be a place to learn and build a career, not a place to be harassed and told "you guys suck".
you gotta grow some thicker skin kiddo, if you want to be a successful private practice doctor. grow up. this isn't a political conference where everybody uses perfectly PC quotes and sound bites. this is real life. and when you go to a hospital in wherever, you're going to work with a doctor that calls something "gay" or whatever. Are you going to act like a twerp and make an issue out of it? Or are you going to just do your job and realize he uses that word to mean one thing and you use it to mean another??

thicker skin... get working on it.
 
Dawker, I somewhat agree with what you have said in an ideal world kind of way. But I also know Jet was saying a lot of that stuff to get a rise, stoke the flames if you will to kill the monotony.

I also agree with Surfer, just from my limited experience behind the blue drape on rotations it's pretty easy to tell that if some of these type A surgeons get a whiff of how they can push your buttons and intimidate you, they will own your @ss.
 
grow up. this isn't a political conference where everybody uses perfectly PC quotes and sound bites. this is real life.

This place is a lot of things. Real life is not one of them. This is the internets. It is serious business.🙂

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Jet, I think it's a little hypocritical to complain about the damage to the "learning environment" while at the same time calling people derogatory names and creating an intimidating atmosphere. Granted, nothing gets me randier than being bullied and called homophobic slurs, but that's only when it's my wife's turn to be on top (which, yes, is every night... 🙁), but it doesn't work for everybody.
 
Uhhhhhhh....

YEP.

You got me.

And

YOU'RE RIGHT.:laugh:

That's big, man.

I wanna protect the ability of this forum to accommodate

DIFFERENCE OF OPINION

WITHOUT CENSORSHIP


Arch recently censored a thread that should not have been censored.

And you, PGG, are

like you are reading some kinda cue card outta some kinda socialistic realm..

I encourage you budding private practice attendings to

look the other way from the

NURSE ADMINISTRATOR TYPE THINKING

that's being shown here and

DO LESS.

STEVE JOBS WORE JEANS TO PRESS RELEASES.

Think about that the next time you wanna act like a nurse

STUPIDVISOR

here.

So, do you support, then, some of my "controversial" posts? My difference of opinion on certain taboo matters? Do you stand out against my censorship? (I'm still on probation man..) Some of your buddies would indeed have me banned for LIFE for the issues I've discussed and the videos I've posted. How about you Jet? Or is it a one way street?

I've been around long enough to remember a TON of great posts and exchanges on this forum. I'm partial to certain posters, and they have my bias, admitedly (JPP is one of them. Again, I admit that). So, Jet, this is not an attack but rather a few simple questions. BTW, this is not an "indirect" attack against the mods. PGG is another which I have a bias in favor of. But, not without merrit. I value his intelligent perspectives and input on a wide variety of matters.
 
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So, do you support, then, some of my "controversial" posts? My difference of opinion on certain taboo matters? Do you stand out against my censorship? (I'm still on probation man..) Some of your buddies would indeed have me banned for LIFE for the issues I've discussed and the videos I've posted. How about you Jet? Or is it a one way street?

I've been around long enough to remember a TON of great posts and exchanges on this forum. I'm partial to certain posters, and they have my bias, admitedly (JPP is one of them. Again, I admit that). So, Jet, this is not an attack but rather a few simple questions.

To be honest CF, I kinda missed that whole chapter here. That's not a cop out, that's the truth. I followed it cursorily thru personal conversations with my writer buddy Doctor712 on here but never really invested time reading the threads. What I recall is something about meat and accusations of antisemitism (sic)...is that pretty close?

THAT BEING SAID,

I'm not a fan of censorship REGARDLESS OF THREAT/INSULT FACTOR/GOING AGAINST THE GRAIN FACTOR etc

since

censorship

doesn't solve anything.

It just puts the issue in a metaphorical box on the shelf.

COMMUNICATION....EXPRESSION

whether vocal or written

can at least provide a conduit to conflict resolution/forgiveness

and if that's not possible

EXPRESSION

provides conflicted parties information about the foe so everyone can take action based on said EXPRESSED information...self protection, reengagement, etc

CENSORSHIP REMOVES OPPORTUNITY.

Not a big fan.
 
It absolutely was a strange thread. Very schizophrenic. But as a participant it was strangely refreshing.... Before censorship.

The thread wasn't censored, it was moderated. This may seem like a trivial matter of semantics to you but I can assure you that there is a significant difference.

Let me quote the guy who started this whole thing called SDN:

Aggressive moderation will occur thereafter with the goal of guiding the forum to operate with the same TOS policies as the rest of SDN.

Check out Sticky#4

Multiple complaints were received from multiple users. No action was taken until area mods and other staff discussed the issue in detail. I do not act in unilateral fashion in this forum unless it is something obvious (nurses trolling, etc.)

Despite the aforementioned sticky and quote from Lee, this forum is among the most lightly moderated forum on the entire website.

Despite accusations otherwise, threads are rarely closed and even if they are bad ones they are allowed to run their course. The forum does a great job of self-regulating.

Off topic threads are welcomed and never shut down.

In some of the forums area mods edit posts and censor certain material and this is well within their rights. Normally this is only done with inappropriate and/or objectionable material. This is not a democracy, it is a website run by volunteers who have chosen to adopt certain rules of forum decorum. Myself and the other mods in this forum as well as the users want a more lightly moderated forum (within reason).

About the only time I ever truly censor/edit threads is when personally identifiable information has been posted about members of the forum (which has happened on more than one occasion).

Moderation is not a science. Nobody is going to agree with everything all of the time.
 
Jet, I think it's a little hypocritical to complain about the damage to the "learning environment" while at the same time calling people derogatory names and creating an intimidating atmosphere. Granted, nothing gets me randier than being bullied and called homophobic slurs, but that's only when it's my wife's turn to be on top (which, yes, is every night... 🙁), but it doesn't work for everybody.

You know dude, you're accusing me of calling people "derogatory names"... is that because I said dude are you gay?

My vernacular has different meaning than what you are portraying... btw I really don't give a s h i t whether someone is or not...you don't know me, so

lose the judgement. If you are truly interested, ask the many on this forum that personally know me.

As far as the intimidating atmosphere reference...

whatever man.

I like to spar sometimes.

Thats just the way I roll.

Accusing me of harboring an intimidating atmosphere after your "review" (jesus back to nursing stupidvisor atmosphere) of a thread

is unfair, nor do I feel the need to defend myself.

Regardless,

I really don't care what you think.
 
Yea I agree with the censorship post.

Arch came in and squashed it...btw Arch that was pretty judgmental, offering your opinion on my little tidbit (which WAS funny btw)! Lighten up EZ E!!

Sorry that you see it this way slim. Moderation isn't always cut and dry. Many users find you very judgmental BTW.
 
Yeah Arch.

Your opinion of "this thread is going nowhere so closing..."

Whatever dude.

It was harmless, entertaining, and sparked some interest.

Sorry I hurt your feelings. I of all people recognize your tremendous contribution to this forum over the years, and I mean this 100% sincerity.
 
Why are you censoring controversy?

Like Plank previously said,

Are you and your bow-tie-wearing moderators so concerned with being

PC

that you are

Stifling

Learning?


Man how I deplore academics....

The ones "In Charge" at our teaching institutions are

PREDICTABLY

inferior

to private practice physicians.....not all, but most.

They are there, making 300k

for a reason.


You "moderators"

are

"leading"

this forum

into the same trap.

It is hard to even formulate a logical reply to this post.

One thread in recent memory has been closed.

Stop the hate dude.
 
The thread wasn't censored, it was moderated. This may seem like a trivial matter of semantics to you but I can assure you that there is a significant difference.

Let me quote the guy who started this whole thing called SDN:



Check out Sticky#4

Multiple complaints were received from multiple users. No action was taken until area mods and other staff discussed the issue in detail. I do not act in unilateral fashion in this forum unless it is something obvious (nurses trolling, etc.)

Despite the aforementioned sticky and quote from Lee, this forum is among the most lightly moderated forum on the entire website.

Despite accusations otherwise, threads are rarely closed and even if they are bad ones they are allowed to run their course. The forum does a great job of self-regulating.

Off topic threads are welcomed and never shut down.

In some of the forums area mods edit posts and censor certain material and this is well within their rights. Normally this is only done with inappropriate and/or objectionable material. This is not a democracy, it is a website run by volunteers who have chosen to adopt certain rules of forum decorum. Myself and the other mods in this forum as well as the users want a more lightly moderated forum (within reason).

About the only time I ever truly censor/edit threads is when personally identifiable information has been posted about members of the forum (which has happened on more than one occasion).

Moderation is not a science. Nobody is going to agree with everything all of the time.

I think you are doing a good job overall.

I also think some...no....

MOST

of the moderators you have to "report to"

are young, naive

TWITS (I stole that word from one of them lol)

who

HAVEN'T A CLUE.
 
Ok ok ok

Give me some lee way.

I've spoken with Lee on the phone at times in past about this and that, so don't throw the

Lee

thing around like you're

Paris Hilton.

<snip>

Are you feeling uncomfortable, emailing your nearest 24 year old moderator on what to do?[/B]

Lol

Call Lee again if you need to. He is very busy right now in duties related to his service for our country.

I an nowhere near 24 years old and neither are the other area mods.
 
No one here remotely thinks or acts like a nurse administrator although I can't say the same thing for your friends over at the CRNA forum that you have frequented in the past.

I encourage you budding private practice attendings to

look the other way from the

NURSE ADMINISTRATOR TYPE THINKING

that's being shown here and

DO LESS.

STEVE JOBS WORE JEANS TO PRESS RELEASES.

Think about that the next time you wanna act like a nurse

STUPIDVISOR

here.
 
That thread was awesome. If you're going to step up to JPP you better have some thick skin. Sad it was locked.
 
JPP I mean this with 100% sincerity and with all due respect:

I am not out to censor or moderate this forum or you inappropriately.

You are a great asset to this forum.

The SDN TOS still applies to everyone. When there are tough decisions to make, I get input from area mods and other long time staff that have been here many years. This little piece of the universe is not a little island unto its own. It was an island a few years ago but that failed and so here we are.

I am busting your balls on this thread in a way because I know it will roll right off your back. You can bust me right back all night long if you feel like (as if you haven't busted on me enough already🙂).
 
No one here remotely thinks or acts like a nurse administrator although I can't say the same thing for your friends over at the CRNA forum that you have frequented in the past.

That's simply not true. Many moderators on SDN resemble NURSE STUPIDVISORS with their feelings and actions.

I was a moderator here once...REMEMBER???:laugh:

That's my opinion and I'm sticking to it.

As to the CRNA forum,

yes I've posted there.

You wrote that like you just revealed The Elephant In The Room

or something!:laugh:

SWING AND A MISS DUDE.

I've always, regardless of where I blog, supported the team model. I'm pro MD supervision, anti militant CRNA. If you're in doubt puh lease review my posts over there, and maybe you'll see a pattern consistent with my opinion on this forum.

I don't write to make friends.

I write for many reasons, one being to inform others about my experiences and opinions about how anesthesia is done effectively.
 
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Despite the fact that I've razzed Jet for overusing bold and huge fonts, I have to agree with him on this one. I think a forum like this is best if left to run a little bit wild, within reason. Who wants a forum where you have to walk on egg shells with every post. An anonymous forum such as this is best if it has somewhat of a "wild west" feel to it. In fact, I've put my heart and sould into some pretty lengthy posts and people just lurk, lurk, lurk and then post 2 line garbage. Otherwise, such a forum becomes pointless if it's no different that typical, shallow, overly censored, politically correct, generally meaningless daily conversation. Now that being said, the thread was slapped down for no reason other than possibly being as boring as the past posts Jet was talking about.

As a newer member you may not be aware of some of the history of this forum. I won't recount it here but suffice it to say that we have had our issues over time and moderation is constantly evolving here.

Your belief that the thread was slapped down for that particular reason is incorrect.
 
I'm pro MD supervision, anti militant CRNA. If you're in doubt puh lease review my posts over there, and maybe you'll see a pattern consistent with my opinion on this forum.

You do realize that one of the mods over there is the past president of the AANA, the very definition of militant CRNA's?

There are many militant members over there who have been banned from here multiple times for trolling.

I have no interest in regurgitating their filth on this website, but I can assure you that forum is populated by militants of the worst type.
 
Shouldn't we be segwaying into truck talk and buck hunting by now??

Here, I'll get the ball rolling:


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