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Bear in mind-- I suspect a number of immediate violet flights were strikes as well
BOWWLING TOURNAMENT GAME THREAD
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I mean if I go quiet everyone will just say that I'm "trying to blend in" after my close call. After this whole dilemma though, I doubt I'll ever be off the chopping block. So, I might as well make the most of my time while I'm here.
Besides, if I turn out to be a wolf, then everything I say can be disregarded, right?
What? The bold specifically confuses me.
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Truenamer
Toothy, Furry Villager
I'm a little anxious that that whole stunt gave the wolves a ton of information
Truenamer
Toothy, Furry Villager
Strike is one of the roles people can have in the game
Theory: Statistically from those dead, a majority of us are likely vanilla. I would assume that this would apply towards the wolves, too.
It helps them narrow roles a good deal
I mean, there isn't really any way for me to respond to this. I know I'm a villager, so it's hard to address why someone would think me defending a villager is pockety and I don't know how to communicate that to everyone else.
Throwing shade everywhere isn't really convincing me you're village. You're immediately going after the people who find you sus (me and true). I don't know if you're bussing with OctoDocto or just trying to save yourself by any means necessary. It was apparently silly of me to give you a second chance since you've gone back to being awfully wolfy.
Elaborate please.
That’s what confuses me. Why are people who left the Violet vote “strikes” as opposed to any other role possibilities?
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hahaha it’s not lurking when i’m just toting 😂 but hello!!!! wanted to add that ivy was not killed or yeeted in the noob game- ivy made it to the very end and died because village reached parity with wolves
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Literally anything I say could be interpreted as wolfy, to be fair. I figure if I'm going to be here for a short time, I'll have fun with it.
Truenamer
Toothy, Furry Villager
I really don't want to do too much thinking for the wolves but if you read people's posts you can get a feeling for folks who believed violet because they also have that role.
Is this not you speculating on mechanics?
Besides, I think it's dangerous to assume the wolves don't have special powers (if that's what you're getting at). We definitely do not have enough information to think that and I don't see how it benefits village to operate under this assumption.
If anything, all this means is anyone with a PR has to keep it close to the vest. I don't know what PRs are out there, and I don't want the wolves to know either. The focus should be on ferreting out the wolves before they can find anyone with a PR.
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Nope, I think it's a good educated guess. Speculating to me is throwing out concepts from no where.
Of course I'm not assuming wolves have no PRs, that's a pretty big leap in logic there. As seen from WZ having a watching ability, there are obviously PRs out there. I'm just saying that out of the assumed 4-5 wolves, I would expect logically (assuming the game is balanced for village vs wolf) that most of the wolves are mostly vanilla. Maybe they have a 1x thing like WZ, but I won't even begin to go into that since THAT'S speculating.
@Zenge142 Why did you not think of this too?
I think there’s a big difference between believing Violet and believing Violet because they have the same role. They’re not mutually exclusive.
I believe there has been a miscommunication. I don't mean to include every vote in that category, but a couple certainly will be. Is that unreasonable? It may not even be violet's role, and that reasoning would apply.
My new list from village to wolf:
Pshelty
Alley
Samac
AM
True
Lawpy
Sporty
Zenge
Octo
Mel
Stoat Starting to move away from wolfy for me
Meats
Fluff
Violet I believe that they are a "strike" but not so sure of whether that role title is limited to villagers
April
Kal
Vis
A lot of these are just based on feelings I've gotten from today. The yellow/neutral names are the ones I am confused about the most.
I really didn't like all of the votes on Ivy today so that has shaped up a lot of the changes in my list
Pshelty
Alley
Samac
AM
True
Lawpy
Sporty
Zenge
Octo
Mel
Stoat Starting to move away from wolfy for me
Meats
Fluff
Violet I believe that they are a "strike" but not so sure of whether that role title is limited to villagers
April
Kal
Vis
A lot of these are just based on feelings I've gotten from today. The yellow/neutral names are the ones I am confused about the most.
I really didn't like all of the votes on Ivy today so that has shaped up a lot of the changes in my list
Am I wolfy enough for you now @Zenge142
This is an interesting theory
Maybe. Maybe. 🤣
Can you pls explain why this is being discussed other than feeding wolves role name info?
Truenamer
Toothy, Furry Villager
It's not feeding them any new information. The information is out there.
I want to look more into kal tomorrow
Ugh SDN is being laggy again
Key tally at 9:56 PM EST
Why?
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Is there any reason why people are buying this?
… but you were wolfreading violets too? What changed?
Truenamer
Toothy, Furry Villager
Feels pretty obvious to me that it's because they have that role as well
Maybe, but I think its broader than that. Someone else might also be a Gutter Ball, like WZ. No idea who, but I doubt everyone's a Strike.
Even so, why are role names being associated with affiliation?
Because the description is specifically towards bowling averages. The initial writeup only said that villagers have these averages, nothing about wolves also having it. (Granted, maybe it just wasn't mentioned to keep us in the dark, but that's speculation.)
I suspect that that's more telling of the affiliation of certain people who ran away from the vote after the role reveal, than of Violet herself. There's been some hindsight musings to that effect.
This was my mistake. I switched my vote when I thought "oh she's a strike she must be a villager!" and then later realized why can't wolves have the same role names?
So far we've seen Strike, Gutter Ball, and Spare. I don't see any reasons why these have to be limited to village
Wait, what? This is vague and I request future elaboration. Are you saying some people are wolfy or villagey? And what differentiates "certain people" from other vote-runners?
All three of you join violets as deep wolfreads
Zuri's a confirmed vanillager, they were modkilled.
Trying to find the post, on that note, that described bowling averages. I could have sworn it's at the beginning of the thread but I can't find it. Should prob sleep and leave it be for now
justafluff
Good skelegg
Hey @Lawpy and @Animal Midwife
Is there someone that feels the wolfiest/ hardest to read to you? I trust your opinions the most after what happened tonight, and want to see if they match mine.
Is there someone that feels the wolfiest/ hardest to read to you? I trust your opinions the most after what happened tonight, and want to see if they match mine.
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Here you go!
It’s currently Mels and Sporty for hardest to read
I guess this is a noob opinion vs. vet opinion thing. But in general, believability of a role reveal doesn’t typically hinge on people having the same role.
I get the logic behind it, but I’ve never seen it analyzed that way, and while I obviously can’t speak to specifics of this game without knowing, generally it’s unusual to have lots of players with the same role name (other than vanilla), so speculating on it seems weird.
My immediate POE is very broad still.
It contains meats, April, Sporty, Octo, alley, yk, stoat, Vis, and Mel.
It helps that some names are incompatible with each other though.
Well, this is an explanation. Although idk how to feel about this
