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uhhhhhh idk said:
Does anyone know the number of people that are placed on OML for the Army? My recruiter told me that everyone who got reviewed on the May 12th board was placed on OML and they JUST took 10 people off of it. Last month 1 was only 1 of 6...
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Hey guys sorry for the misinformation. I talked to my recruiter about it and I think I misunderstood him. So there are people from the May 12th board that got put on the list, but it certainly wasn't everyone who applied. So far he told me 16 people got taken off of it and 15 people are on it at the moment.
 
Withdrew my HPSP application for the Air Force after receiving notice that all scholarships have been given out (matrix qualified). Best of luck to those who have been placed in the waiting list.

Overall, very disappointed with the whole experience. I am at odds as to whether or not apply for the three year scholarship. I began the application process 6 months ago and could never be cleared by MEPS since I listed ‘asthma’ as one of my prior conditions (had it as a child, before age 13). No other health conditions. Passed my PFTs and even got a letter from a pulmonologist stating I didn’t have asthma. Still couldn’t get cleared. MEPS requested that I give them additional paperwork from 10 years ago which I did &, guess again, still couldn’t get cleared. Quit after that since they kept asking for additional records after providing them everything I had (rarely go to the doctor since I’m in pretty good health).

Very frustrating process, but it is what it is. I’m a little salty about it because I know plenty of people who are in the armed forces that definitely don’t meet criteria. Maybe I just got stuck with a bad CMO.

Sorry for the rant. Just still upset over spending months and many hours getting ridiculously old documentation just to never be cleared.
 
wwdawg1540 said:
Does anyone know how many spots are left for Air Force or how to judge likelihood of receiving scholarship?

*4 year applicant
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All scholarships have been given out. Assuming your application gets processed in time you’ll only be placed on the waitlist. the process itself takes weeks and I recommend you apply early if you want a three year scholarship. If you don’t have the gpa/MCAT to get matrix qualified you’ll have to go through a review board first, which takes a while.

This is for the Air Force. Unsure about the other branches
 
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Gordtaco said:
Withdrew my HPSP application for the Air Force after receiving notice that all scholarships have been given out (matrix qualified). Best of luck to those who have been placed in the waiting list.

Overall, very disappointed with the whole experience. I am at odds as to whether or not apply for the three year scholarship. I began the application process 6 months ago and could never be cleared by MEPS since I listed ‘asthma’ as one of my prior conditions (had it as a child, before age 13). No other health conditions. Passed my PFTs and even got a letter from a pulmonologist stating I didn’t have asthma. Still couldn’t get cleared. MEPS requested that I give them additional paperwork from 10 years ago which I did &, guess again, still couldn’t get cleared. Quit after that since they kept asking for additional records after providing them everything I had (rarely go to the doctor since I’m in pretty good health).

Very frustrating process, but it is what it is. I’m a little salty about it because I know plenty of people who are in the armed forces that definitely don’t meet criteria. Maybe I just got stuck with a bad CMO.

Sorry for the rant. Just still upset over spending months and many hours getting ridiculously old documentation just to never be cleared.
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Wow your story gave me extreme deja vu because that's EXACTLY what I went through. "Asthma" before age 13. Hadn't been to the doctor for anything aside from annual checkups since. Got a PFT, gathered docs from 10 years ago, had to call 3 pharmacies from my childhood home to figure out where I filled my prescriptions. Ugh. Still got rejected by the SG, until I submitted ANOTHER PFT along with THREE doctor's notes (current PCP, pulmonologist, pediatrician).
If I were you, I would consider applying for 3-year Army. The Army is much more lax when it comes to physical standards. I applied for both AF and Army with the SAME medical documents. AF rejected me. Army granted me a waiver. The whole process took six months of frustration and waiting.
Of course, if you're going to apply for 3-year Army, then apply for Navy and AF as well, to maximize your chances of getting the scholarship. Best of luck!
 
Gordtaco said:
Withdrew my HPSP application for the Air Force after receiving notice that all scholarships have been given out (matrix qualified). Best of luck to those who have been placed in the waiting list.

Overall, very disappointed with the whole experience. I am at odds as to whether or not apply for the three year scholarship. I began the application process 6 months ago and could never be cleared by MEPS since I listed ‘asthma’ as one of my prior conditions (had it as a child, before age 13). No other health conditions. Passed my PFTs and even got a letter from a pulmonologist stating I didn’t have asthma. Still couldn’t get cleared. MEPS requested that I give them additional paperwork from 10 years ago which I did &, guess again, still couldn’t get cleared. Quit after that since they kept asking for additional records after providing them everything I had (rarely go to the doctor since I’m in pretty good health).

Very frustrating process, but it is what it is. I’m a little salty about it because I know plenty of people who are in the armed forces that definitely don’t meet criteria. Maybe I just got stuck with a bad CMO.

Sorry for the rant. Just still upset over spending months and many hours getting ridiculously old documentation just to never be cleared.
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Hi, I'm so sorry that you had this experience. I just want to let you know that MEPS isn't the only option to get physically qualified (at least for the Army). You can get a 2 part evaluation done in order to fill out your 2808 and as long as you can get a doctor's note stating that your prior asthma doesn't impact your current health. I had heart surgery when I was 11mo which would put me on a long waitlist for MEPS, so my recruiter told me about this alternative instead. All I needed out of the ordinary was to do was an ECG, stress test and holter monitor tests to see if I would be disqualified; pretty much any and all tests that the military requires you to do can be done in their facilities free of charge. The only benefit of MEPS is that you do all of the medical tests in 1 day.

It took me well over a year to finish my app and I'm on the waitlist (aka OML) which is supposedly based only on merit. I personally would say if you aren't picky about the branch for HPSP, then you should either go with the NAVY (you get the opportunity to do a civilian residency and they have more spots than AF) or the Army (has the most spots in the military).
 
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uhhhhhh idk said:
Hi, I'm so sorry that you had this experience. I just want to let you know that MEPS isn't the only option to get physically qualified (at least for the Army). You can get a 2 part evaluation done in order to fill out your 2808 and as long as you can get a doctor's note stating that your prior asthma doesn't impact your current health. I had heart surgery when I was 11mo which would put me on a long waitlist for MEPS, so my recruiter told me about this alternative instead. All I needed out of the ordinary was to do was an ECG, stress test and holter monitor tests to see if I would be disqualified; pretty much any and all tests that the military requires you to do can be done in their facilities free of charge. The only benefit of MEPS is that you do all of the medical tests in 1 day.

It took me well over a year to finish my app and I'm on the waitlist (aka OML) which is supposedly based only on merit. I personally would say if you aren't picky about the branch for HPSP, then you should either go with the NAVY (you get the opportunity to do a civilian residency and they have more spots than AF) or the Army (has the most spots in the military).
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Thanks for the info! I'll definitely let my recruiter know about this option on the chance that I decide to pursue a three year scholarship. Doing a 2 part evaluation with them directly instead of having to collect decades worth of medical documentation seems like the more logical thing to do. Really wish that they told me about this option earlier instead of having to learn about it on SDN haha.

Also thanks to everyone who shared their story!
 
Gordtaco said:
Thanks for the info! I'll definitely let my recruiter know about this option on the chance that I decide to pursue a three year scholarship. Doing a 2 part evaluation with them directly instead of having to collect decades worth of medical documentation seems like the more logical thing to do. Really wish that they told me about this option earlier instead of having to learn about it on SDN haha.

Also thanks to everyone who shared their story!
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It might not be the most ideal option but you can always commission as an attending. It's been a while since I've looked at it but a few years they were giving upwards of a 400k signing bonus with the idea you use that to pay of student debt. They may have changed the numbers based on specialty though.
Mil med physical 101: Unless it's gonna kill you or growing off your body, try to keep it on the DL.
 
Where do I find the specific figures for what the HPSP monthly stipend will look like in Fall 2020?

Based on HPSP Fact Sheet
2018: $2,330.78/month for 10 ½ months
2019: $2,391.60/month for 10 ½ months
2020: ???

Can anyone provide specifics?
No speculation, please. There aren't any official documents with these posted rates anywhere, unlike the special pay tables that are published annually.
 
darknessicegoat said:
Where do I find the specific figures for what the HPSP monthly stipend will look like in Fall 2020?

Based on HPSP Fact Sheet
2018: $2,330.78/month for 10 ½ months
2019: $2,391.60/month for 10 ½ months
2020: ???

Can anyone provide specifics?
No speculation, please. There aren't any official documents with these posted rates anywhere, unlike the special pay tables that are published annually.
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This is via an administrator for the HPSP Facebook page:

Updated for Academic Year 2020-21

FYI regarding the stipend, for budget planning purposes each year:

Per Section 2121, Title 10, USC, the stipend increases each year on 1 July by the same percentage that base pay increased for the current calendar year over the previous calendar year; for AY20-21, then, the stipend will be $2465.73.

Regarding taxes, you can determine your monthly federal withholding based on your allowances claimed using the 2020 withholding tables (consult your state for a similar resource). Per Chapter 41, Volume 7A, DoD Financial Management Regulation, the stipend is subject to federal and state withholding but not FICA; base pay, but not BAH or BAS, earned during ADT is subject to federal and state withholding and to FICA (6.2% for Social Security, 1.45% for Medicare).

Section 2121, Title 10, U.S. Code


Miltary Pay Charts



2020 Federal Income Tax Withholding Tables


2020 FICA Rates

www.irs.gov

Topic no. 751, Social Security and Medicare withholding rates | Internal Revenue Service

IRS Tax Topic on Social Security and Medicare taxes.
www.irs.gov www.irs.gov

Volume 7A, DoD Financial Management Regulation

 
DaniellaDavis said:
This is via an administrator for the HPSP Facebook page:

Updated for Academic Year 2020-21

FYI regarding the stipend, for budget planning purposes each year:

Per Section 2121, Title 10, USC, the stipend increases each year on 1 July by the same percentage that base pay increased for the current calendar year over the previous calendar year; for AY20-21, then, the stipend will be $2465.73.

Regarding taxes, you can determine your monthly federal withholding based on your allowances claimed using the 2020 withholding tables (consult your state for a similar resource). Per Chapter 41, Volume 7A, DoD Financial Management Regulation, the stipend is subject to federal and state withholding but not FICA; base pay, but not BAH or BAS, earned during ADT is subject to federal and state withholding and to FICA (6.2% for Social Security, 1.45% for Medicare).

Section 2121, Title 10, U.S. Code


Miltary Pay Charts



2020 Federal Income Tax Withholding Tables


2020 FICA Rates

www.irs.gov

Topic no. 751, Social Security and Medicare withholding rates | Internal Revenue Service

IRS Tax Topic on Social Security and Medicare taxes.
www.irs.gov www.irs.gov

Volume 7A, DoD Financial Management Regulation

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Thank you. You’re awesome! Is this the Facebook group called “military HPSP students and physicians”? If so, I’ll go ahead and join that right now.
 
darknessicegoat said:
Thank you. You’re awesome! Is this the Facebook group called “military HPSP students and physicians”? If so, I’ll go ahead and join that right now.
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Yep! That's the one. Lots of very experienced people on there who know what they're talking about, including those who actually help run the HPSP programs. Don't want to put their names on here due to privacy reasons, but you'll find them on that page 🙂
 
Commissioned several weeks ago (Navy) but have not received commissioning certificate/paperwork since taking my oath. Emailed my recruiter earlier this week but no response still. Not sure if this is something we need to wait for until school begins or if this is something that will come in the mail.
 
BiochemistryStudent said:
Commissioned several weeks ago (Navy) but have not received commissioning certificate/paperwork since taking my oath. Emailed my recruiter earlier this week but no response still. Not sure if this is something we need to wait for until school begins or if this is something that will come in the mail.
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I don't think I got my commissioning certificate until mid september. The Navy's kinda all over the place right now from an admin perspective (at least from what I've seen).
 
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Navy HPSP board selected in May after several delays. Still haven't heard much on what is happening currently. Also, submitted my AYS awhile back. Am I awaiting the scroll approval step? Anyone have a clue when that might happen? Is there any resource I can lookup to get updates? I went ahead and made sure to have funding approval with school loans because this process was taking so long. Kinda aggravating since I started it back in September.
 
BoomerLG said:
Navy HPSP board selected in May after several delays. Still haven't heard much on what is happening currently. Also, submitted my AYS awhile back. Am I awaiting the scroll approval step? Anyone have a clue when that might happen? Is there any resource I can lookup to get updates? I went ahead and made sure to have funding approval with school loans because this process was taking so long. Kinda aggravating since I started it back in September.
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Congrats on getting selected! Yes, the next step is to get signed off by Congress (aka "scroll-approved). That can take anywhere from 2 weeks to a few months. Your recruiter will inform you once that has occurred. And yes, it's a good idea to pull out a loan to cover your first few months of school. Scroll approval can take forever, and you can't commission until you are scroll-approved. And even after you commission, the payment takes a while to be set up, so you might not get your stipend/bonus/tuition payments until a few months after commissioning. I know it's a frustrating process, but as you probably well know already, it's "hurry up and wait" in the military!
 
DaniellaDavis said:
Congrats on getting selected! Yes, the next step is to get signed off by Congress (aka "scroll-approved). That can take anywhere from 2 weeks to a few months. Your recruiter will inform you once that has occurred. And yes, it's a good idea to pull out a loan to cover your first few months of school. Scroll approval can take forever, and you can't commission until you are scroll-approved. And even after you commission, the payment takes a while to be set up, so you might not get your stipend/bonus/tuition payments until a few months after commissioning. I know it's a frustrating process, but as you probably well know already, it's "hurry up and wait" in the military!
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Thanks for the information. Yea hurry up and wait for sure. I was ready for it, no problem. As long as it doesn’t turn into a 3 year scholarship I’ll be ok with it getting funded whenever. I’m excited tho, hopeful to do flight surgeon at some point for few years.
 
Thanks for the responses. My application was reviewed during the second June board, and my recruiter told me results have not been released yet.
 
RAK21 said:
I've heard timelines can vary but can give you mine for reference reference. I was in the early June boards, heard back on the 16th of June, had my paperwork process, and commissioned a few days ago.
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Thank you! Congrats on commissioning. Just heard from my recruiter that everyone from the August board was put on the OML including myself. Does anyone know what the likelihood of getting off the OML is?
 
I've already started medical school and am still on the OML. Does anyone know if I can still apply for the 4 year scholarship if I have already started my program?
 
bwright717 said:
I've already started medical school and am still on the OML. Does anyone know if I can still apply for the 4 year scholarship if I have already started my program?
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It will be too late for the 4 year because the fiscal year ends September 30 so it must be awarded by then. The process takes minimum 3 months, usually more like 6.
 
bwright717 said:
I've already started medical school and am still on the OML. Does anyone know if I can still apply for the 4 year scholarship if I have already started my program?
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I got the 4-year scholarship in Oct of my first year of med school. However, I started my app in Spring, before the end of the fiscal year. I was never on the OML, just board-accepted late since they still had scholarships available. If you were to apply fresh, it's prob too late, unless you get off the OML. But check with a recruiter just in case. Otherwise, you can still go for 3-year
 
Hey yall! I'm a current MDSSP applicant (figured it was similar enough to HPSP so I could post here) and wanted to see if anyone else is anxiously waiting for the September 12th board results? I have no idea if HPSP and MDSSP have the same board but figured it was worth a shot
 
Yo! Question: What exact GPA do they use to determine matrix/non-matrix? Is it cumulative or institutional?

I've got my current institutional GPA and then my junior college and my overall. I've already got an acceptance and meet the MCAT requirements. But now I'm worried my cumulative won't meet the bare minimum, as my shotty grades from almost a decade ago are coming back to haunt me. If you have a good MCAT and an acceptance already - is the waiver more likely?

PS: Obviously I'm not a 2024 applicant, but as the question doesn't pertain to the year, I figured I would put it here just in case anybody w/ similar experience could weigh in for a 2025 applicant. Thanks!
 
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Does anyone if its possible to switch branches and when would be the best time to ( 1st year versus 4th year for example)? I know we would need to find someone from the other branch to switch with us but just wanted to get more info and see if that was even possible.
 
Bearmanbear said:
Yo! Question: What exact GPA do they use to determine matrix/non-matrix? Is it cumulative or institutional?

I've got my current institutional GPA and then my junior college and my overall. I've already got an acceptance and meet the MCAT requirements. But now I'm worried my cumulative won't meet the bare minimum, as my shotty grades from almost a decade ago are coming back to haunt me. If you have a good MCAT and an acceptance already - is the waiver more likely?

PS: Obviously I'm not a 2024 applicant, but as the question doesn't pertain to the year, I figured I would put it here just in case anybody w/ similar experience could weigh in for a 2025 applicant. Thanks!
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I would ask your recruiter this - only they can give you a straight answer
 
Just found out from recruiter I am now “pending exception”. She said it’s a very good sign. Anyone else told this and know chances I have of getting it now? This is for Army 4 year btw
 
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