Class of 2024 HPSP

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Currently applying for the 4 year Navy HPSP scholarship; I am currently collecting my last interview to hopefully submit my packet on the 9th of January to make January boards. In the event I do not make that date, are there more boards following? Is it considered a "late" submission for the scholarship?
If you're applying to the medical school scholarship, I was told by my recruiter they take people all the way through orientation week for medical school and start accepting students for the 3 and 2 year scholarships.

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Once you are Board-selected, your name gets put on a "scroll' and sent to Congress for approval. This can take months. But it's just a formality. Once you are scroll-approved you can commission and sign the contract that same day

How long does it take to hear back from board? And how often does the board meet? I’m applying to Air Force so don’t know if it’s any different?


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How long does it take to hear back from board? And how often does the board meet? I’m applying to Air Force so don’t know if it’s any different?


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I'm not sure for AF, since I'm Army. And it also depends on what specialty you're applying for. Army Board for Medical HPSP meets several times a year, I'm pretty sure every two months or so, maybe more often. For Dental and Vet, I believe it's only one Board per year, since there are fewer scholarships available. You need to ask your recruiter about the exact Board date meeting. Your application will usually have to be submitted/complete about 2 weeks to 1 month before the Board date. After the Board convenes, from what I've heard your recruiter can inform you of the decision about 2 weeks later. But there's really no set rule, and only your recruiter can keep you updated
 
I'm interested in the Navy HPSP but I'm certain I'd be medically disqualified and would have to get a waiver of some description. Is the medically disqualifying stuff different for HPSP candidates?
 
I'm interested in the Navy HPSP but I'm certain I'd be medically disqualified and would have to get a waiver of some description. Is the medically disqualifying stuff different for HPSP candidates?
No, you need to medically qualify as a commissioned officer for the respective branch you are applying for. The only way to find out for sure is to speak to a recruiter. Now keep in mind, sometimes recruiters give contradicting information, so if one recruiter says you can't join due to a medical condition, go speak to other recruiters of the same branch, as well as recruiters from different branches.

Here's my anecdotal evidence:
I have childhood asthma, and submitted the same documents to the SG of the Air Force and SG of the Army for a waiver. The AF rejected me, the Army granted the waiver.
I am only 4'9. When I went to the Army recruitment office, one recruiter said "No way they will grant you a waiver." Another recruiter said, "We'll start an application for you anyway, just try to stand up straight at MEPS." At MEPS, I was measured, lo and behold, to be 4'9. So I needed to get a waiver anyway, and it was granted.
I talked to SEVERAL Navy recruiters about whether I can get a height waiver to join. One said no. Another said no, and then yes. Another recruiter said he'll check. Another one sent me a document from MEPS saying "Do not grant a waiver to anyone under the height of 57 inches." I am exactly 57 inches, so I said, "Great, that means I can apply, right?" The recruiter said, "I don't know." LOL

So yeah, I would definitely check with multiple recruiters to see if your medical condition can be waived. You can also search "military medical disqualifications" or go to this site: https://www.esd.whs.mil/Portals/54/Documents/DD/issuances/dodi/613003p.pdf , which outlines what conditions are disqualifying and require a waiver across all military branches.

However, if you have a condition that has no chance of being waived, then I wouldn't waste your time nor anyone else's. An example of this would be if you're currently taking depression/anxiety meds, or have cancer or a neuromuscular degenerative disorder or something.
 
No, you need to medically qualify as a commissioned officer for the respective branch you are applying for. The only way to find out for sure is to speak to a recruiter. Now keep in mind, sometimes recruiters give contradicting information, so if one recruiter says you can't join due to a medical condition, go speak to other recruiters of the same branch, as well as recruiters from different branches.

Thanks. Yeah, I have ADHD/HTN which I take medication for and am not going to stop. I've read through all that stuff and it says you can't get a waiver but I've seen reliable people on here saying that they got in with those conditions leading me to believe the criteria might be different for people going in for HPSP/Officer stuff and wasn't sure.
 
Thanks. Yeah, I have ADHD/HTN which I take medication for and am not going to stop. I've read through all that stuff and it says you can't get a waiver but I've seen reliable people on here saying that they got in with those conditions leading me to believe the criteria might be different for people going in for HPSP/Officer stuff and wasn't sure.
Hm....according to the document I sent you, it says that applicants who do not meet the medical criteria can be considered for a waiver. So if you really want to go for it, then I would speak to a few healthcare recruiters (make sure they are specific to healthcare programs; regular recruiters will not know much about HPSP and will more readily turn you away). If a waiver if possible, then they will allow you to start an application. A recruiter will not waste their time with an applicant that they believe has no chance of successfully making it through MEPS, so if a recruiter decides to work with you despite knowing your medical history, then there's a chance. If you speak to at least 3 recruiters for each branch and they all say no, then I would say that is unfortunately the end of the line...
 
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Does anyone know when the next Air Force board meeting is? I believe it should be relatively soon, either this week or next.
 
Hi all,

So I'm applying for the Navy HPSP and am currently in my first year of med school. I heard rumors that basically if you have an acceptance or if you're in school, you'll get accepted. I also saw some other stats that said that only 1 in 11 applicants get accepted (can't remember if this was for AF only, though.) Does anyone have any insight into some of the acceptance stats?

Also, I did end up getting a medical waiver, so if y'all have any questions about that, I might be able to answer some.
 
Thanks. Yeah, I have ADHD/HTN which I take medication for and am not going to stop. I've read through all that stuff and it says you can't get a waiver but I've seen reliable people on here saying that they got in with those conditions leading me to believe the criteria might be different for people going in for HPSP/Officer stuff and wasn't sure.
So I definitely did not meet medical qualification for Navy because of my eyesight. However, I went and got an opto consult at MEPS and was cleared for the waiver.
 
Hi all,

So I'm applying for the Navy HPSP and am currently in my first year of med school. I heard rumors that basically if you have an acceptance or if you're in school, you'll get accepted. I also saw some other stats that said that only 1 in 11 applicants get accepted (can't remember if this was for AF only, though.) Does anyone have any insight into some of the acceptance stats?

Also, I did end up getting a medical waiver, so if y'all have any questions about that, I might be able to answer some.
If there are more applicants than there are scholarships, of course not everyone will get accepted. There are people who have great profiles (and acceptance letters) but don't get accepted due to the competitive nature of the scholarship. Now, say for Army med scholarships, there are way more slots, so most people (if not all) will get in. For Army dental, that's a different story, where only 1/3 of applicants will get in. It all depends
 
Hi all,

So I'm applying for the Navy HPSP and am currently in my first year of med school. I heard rumors that basically if you have an acceptance or if you're in school, you'll get accepted. I also saw some other stats that said that only 1 in 11 applicants get accepted (can't remember if this was for AF only, though.) Does anyone have any insight into some of the acceptance stats?

Also, I did end up getting a medical waiver, so if y'all have any questions about that, I might be able to answer some.
This is what my recruiter went me regarding stats for Army. This was a few months ago though
Medical Corps HPSP 4 Year
290 Vacancies 124 selected 1 Order of Merit List 330 Applicants (currently) Applying
Medical Corps HPSP 3 Year
25 Vacancies 3 Selected 26 Applicants (currently) Applying
Dental Corps HPSP 4 Year
75 Vacancies 224 Applicants Applying
Dental Corps HPSP 3 Year
10 Vacancies 122 Applicants Applying
67F HPSP (Optometry) 2 Year
2 Vacancies 13 Applicants Applying
 
I believe most people use and are very happy with a website called “laptops for military docs”. They then purchase a new laptop with their own funds when med school is over.
Thank you! I honestly just searched "hpsp laptop rental" and that was the first thing that popped up... now to decide whether i continue using windows or make the switch to apple
 
Does anybody know how many spots are open for the Navy February 20th board results? Has anybody heard anything regarding Feb 20th board results?
 
Does anybody know how many spots are open for the Navy February 20th board results? Has anybody heard anything regarding Feb 20th board results?

As of a couple weeks ago, there were roughly 170 slots left for Navy HPSP (about half the total).
 
Currently applying to Air Force 4 year. In the process of getting a waiver after meps and was hoping to get to COT for March 31st(?). Anyone know how the virus is impacting any of these steps?
 
Currently applying to Air Force 4 year. In the process of getting a waiver after meps and was hoping to get to COT for March 31st(?). Anyone know how the virus is impacting any of these steps?
If you're currently applying, does this mean that you have not yet been accepted for a scholarship? Or that you are already accepted, pending a medical waiver? If you have not yet commissioned, I HIGHLY doubt you will make it in time for COT, regardless of the COVID situation
 
If you're currently applying, does this mean that you have not yet been accepted for a scholarship? Or that you are already accepted, pending a medical waiver? If you have not yet commissioned, I HIGHLY doubt you will make it in time for COT, regardless of the COVID situation

The way I understand it, my numbers meet the requirements so I don’t have to go to board. Upon being medically cleared I am accepted, I believe.
 
The way I understand it, my numbers meet the requirements so I don’t have to go to board. Upon being medically cleared I am accepted, I believe.
Even so, after you are accepted your name has to be sent up to Congress to get approved. This process can take anywhere from a couple weeks to several months. And with the COVID crisis, I'm sure HPSP is not their priority (although who knows). Even if it is approved in two weeks, once you commission it takes time for your paperwork to be processed and for you to get into the system and everything. You have to sign up for COT and be approved, and that should take some time as well. I would say if COT is in March, you won't make it. But I'm Army, so maybe Air Force works faster, idk
 
Currently applying to Air Force 4 year. In the process of getting a waiver after meps and was hoping to get to COT for March 31st(?). Anyone know how the virus is impacting any of these steps?

You can get the March COT date... next year. I’m also waiting for a waiver and was told even the summer dates will most likely be full by the time I commission. Stats above the requirements.


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You can get the March COT date... next year. I’m also waiting for a waiver and was told even the summer dates will most likely be full by the time I commission. Stats above the requirements.


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Yep, sounds about right. Most people don't get the training date they want until the following year, since students who are already in the program are prioritized. For instance, Army has a training called DCC that students can potentially go to before starting their first year of med school. But this almost never happens, since DCC slots go to all incoming second year med students. Also, the whole process of getting accepted for the scholarship, commissioning, and then getting entered into the system takes so many months that you probably won't be able to do any training before starting professional school anyway
 
this may be common information, but when do you typically apply for HPSP? Before you submit apps to schools, or during the app process?

also, does anyone know how to calculate the time owed if you're currently serving in the reserves on an ROTC contract? Like say I have 3 years remaining I owe to a reserve component, does that equal 1.5 years active duty i would tack on to an HPSP contract?
 
this may be common information, but when do you typically apply for HPSP? Before you submit apps to schools, or during the app process?

also, does anyone know how to calculate the time owed if you're currently serving in the reserves on an ROTC contract? Like say I have 3 years remaining I owe to a reserve component, does that equal 1.5 years active duty i would tack on to an HPSP contract?
I know for Army you can start the application in May or something during your application year. But you need to ask a recruiter for this specific information. Generally, you apply the summer/fall that you are applying to professional school
 
I am currently trying to apply for HPSP in the U.S. Army. How long does it usually take for a recruiter to get in touch with you? I have left an email through the GoArmy Website and a voicemail at my nearest Medical Recruiter Office. I really would like to get the process rolling. I am currently working on my motivational statement. Is there anything else I could be doing in the meantime, while I wait?

I am located in NYC. So, I am aware a lot of workers are sent home due to the COVID=19 situation. Considering the ongoing pandemic, do you think my application will get submitted and accepted in time, before I start medical school this Fall?
 
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I am currently trying to apply for HPSP in the U.S. Army. How long does it usually take for a recruiter to get in touch with you? I have left an email through the GoArmy Website and a voicemail at my nearest Medical Recruiter Office. I really would like to get the process rolling. I am currently working on my motivational statement. Is there anything else I could be doing in the meantime, while I wait?

I am located in NYC. So, I am aware a lot of workers are sent home due to the COVID=19 situation. Considering the ongoing pandemic, do you think my application will get submitted and accepted in time, before I start medical school this Fall?
When I filled out the form for more info on the GoArmy website, it only look a couple of days for an Army recruiter to reach out to me. However, given that COVID is happening and the recruiters are working from home, expect for there to be delays. If you left a voicemail, they're not going to get it because they won't be in the office. The most important step is to get an application started with a recruiter. If no one reaches out to you in a week, try joining the HPSP Facebook page. You can post about how you're trying to get in contact with a recruiter in the NYC area. Someone there might get you in contact with a recruiter. If that doesn't work, PM me, and I can reach out to someone who can find a recruiter for you)

If you are entering med school this fall, then you're starting the application pretty late. The recruiters are probably more focused on current applicants that they have. That being said, you should still definitely reach out and try to get the application started. My application process took me from April to October, and I started med school August of the same year. I was still able to get the 4-year scholarship despite already starting med school, but my case is very unique and complicated. In general, if you apply before this summer you might be able to make it in time for the Boards to get the 4-year.

In the meantime, just polish up your personal statement, gather all important documents (SS card, ID, passport, birth certificate, letter of acceptance from a med school, at least 3-5 letters of recommendation from people who can talk about why you'd be a good doctor in the military). Also get all of your healthcare documentation and see if you have any conditions that will need to be waived. If you've ever gotten into legal trouble (traffic tickets, etc.) then you need to get documentation for that as well. Having all this paperwork will make the process a LOT smoother, trust me.

I wish you the best of luck! Given the COVID situation, and how late you're applying, getting the 4-year scholarship is going to be cutting it a bit close. But it's not impossible, if you complete the application fast enough. The application itself can be done within a few days, it's just MEPS that might take a while, especially if you require waivers (moral or medical). I think Boards for 4-year scholarships run all the way until September, so if you finish your application by August you can make it. Feel free to PM me with any questions!
 
When I filled out the form for more info on the GoArmy website, it only look a couple of days for an Army recruiter to reach out to me. However, given that COVID is happening and the recruiters are working from home, expect for there to be delays. If you left a voicemail, they're not going to get it because they won't be in the office. The most important step is to get an application started with a recruiter. If no one reaches out to you in a week, try joining the HPSP Facebook page. You can post about how you're trying to get in contact with a recruiter in the NYC area. Someone there might get you in contact with a recruiter. If that doesn't work, PM me, and I can reach out to someone who can find a recruiter for you)

If you are entering med school this fall, then you're starting the application pretty late. The recruiters are probably more focused on current applicants that they have. That being said, you should still definitely reach out and try to get the application started. My application process took me from April to October, and I started med school August of the same year. I was still able to get the 4-year scholarship despite already starting med school, but my case is very unique and complicated. In general, if you apply before this summer you might be able to make it in time for the Boards to get the 4-year.

In the meantime, just polish up your personal statement, gather all important documents (SS card, ID, passport, birth certificate, letter of acceptance from a med school, at least 3-5 letters of recommendation from people who can talk about why you'd be a good doctor in the military). Also get all of your healthcare documentation and see if you have any conditions that will need to be waived. If you've ever gotten into legal trouble (traffic tickets, etc.) then you need to get documentation for that as well. Having all this paperwork will make the process a LOT smoother, trust me.

I wish you the best of luck! Given the COVID situation, and how late you're applying, getting the 4-year scholarship is going to be cutting it a bit close. But it's not impossible, if you complete the application fast enough. The application itself can be done within a few days, it's just MEPS that might take a while, especially if you require waivers (moral or medical). I think Boards for 4-year scholarships run all the way until September, so if you finish your application by August you can make it. Feel free to PM me with any questions!

Thank you for providing a hopeful response. I'll try my best to complete/gather everything you recommended. Appreciate the assistance. I'll keep my fingers crossed.
 
Where is everyone in the process so far? I started my application a few months ago (Air Force) and getting to MEPS has been a hassle. Matrix qualified so I don't have to go through the other hoops, but it's still taking forever.
 
I am interested in the HPSP, but I have a formal diagnosis of ADHD and take medication that I don't plan on stopping (or lying about as recommended by one recruiter I worked with). I have been accepted to medical school (AT Still University- Kirksville) and I am considering either the 3 or 4-year scholarship. The plan long term would be internal medicine and then payback before going onto a fellowship in GI or Cardio- *Disclaimer* I want to spend some time serving my country, but don't want the military to be my life.
In addition to that, I am also unclear on what the requirements are for MCAT scores: some sources say over 500, others say minimum 124 in each section, some say 510 to be competitive, etc.

So...
1 - Is it possible to get a waiver for ADHD/ADD?
2 - What are the specific HPSP MCAT requirements? Or is it branch-dependent (if so, what are the requirements)?
3 - Is it Actually a 1:1 payback? I read in some of the paperwork I received at an informational session that it can be Year:Year unless it reaches a certain dollar amount, in which case you could end up owing 5-6 years because of the cost of school. [ATSU is a private school with an estimated cost of attendance of $90k p/year]
4 - What are the deployment requirements for the payback period? Do you have to be deployed to a warzone?
5 - My wife is also going to medical school (yay us), but that would mean that if we get bounced around, she has to find employment that will work for her as well. What would that look like if I was doing military payback and she is a civilian? Would they find a job for her wherever I go or would she roll the dice and run the risk each time I am asked to move?

THANKS!
 
I am interested in the HPSP, but I have a formal diagnosis of ADHD and take medication that I don't plan on stopping (or lying about as recommended by one recruiter I worked with). I have been accepted to medical school (AT Still University- Kirksville) and I am considering either the 3 or 4-year scholarship. The plan long term would be internal medicine and then payback before going onto a fellowship in GI or Cardio- *Disclaimer* I want to spend some time serving my country, but don't want the military to be my life.
In addition to that, I am also unclear on what the requirements are for MCAT scores: some sources say over 500, others say minimum 124 in each section, some say 510 to be competitive, etc.

So...
1 - Is it possible to get a waiver for ADHD/ADD?
2 - What are the specific HPSP MCAT requirements? Or is it branch-dependent (if so, what are the requirements)?
3 - Is it Actually a 1:1 payback? I read in some of the paperwork I received at an informational session that it can be Year:Year unless it reaches a certain dollar amount, in which case you could end up owing 5-6 years because of the cost of school. [ATSU is a private school with an estimated cost of attendance of $90k p/year]
4 - What are the deployment requirements for the payback period? Do you have to be deployed to a warzone?
5 - My wife is also going to medical school (yay us), but that would mean that if we get bounced around, she has to find employment that will work for her as well. What would that look like if I was doing military payback and she is a civilian? Would they find a job for her wherever I go or would she roll the dice and run the risk each time I am asked to move?

THANKS!
According to the accession standards above, ADHD with medications prescribed within the past 2 years is disqualifying. However, there MAY be a waiver possible at MEPS for "disqualifying" conditions. I would see if a recruiter is willing to work with you. If they think you have a chance, they will start an application with you. If they don't think there's a chance, they won't. If you try a few recruiters at one branch (and different recruitment offices) and all say no, go to the other branches. If you speak to several different recruiters for Army, AF, and Navy, and all say no, then that's the end of that.
I respect you very much for choosing to be honest. This is a great decision. I was also pressured by my recruiter to lie, but decided to spill everything at MEPS anyway. It made my application process drag on for MONTHS and was an aggravating hassle, but worked out in the end.

As for your other questions:
2. Each branch has its own minimum standard. If you fall below the standard, a waiver may be possible, but you'll be MUCH less competitive. Check with a recruiter to be sure.
3. For Army, it is 8 years total: 4 years active duty, and either 4 years reserve or 2 years active duty (I believe). I'm not sure for Navy or AF. Depending on which type of residency you do, you can add more onto the service requirement. That's much more complicated. A military residency or civilian-deferred will NOT add on extra time. Civilian-sponsored WILL add on a year for every year of residency.
4. Once you become active duty, you will be deployed whenever and wherever you're needed. There is no "requirement." It is based on the needs of the military, and they will send you where they need you, whether that is to be stationed somewhere or deployed to a war zone. You don't have much say - once you join, you are a tool for them to use how they choose, so make sure you truly want to SERVE before signing the contract.
5. TBH, I don't know much about military spouses. If your wife is civilian, then the military is not very concerned with her. Regardless of where you go, she can do what she wants, like own a practice, or work somewhere while you finish up your requirement, or she can try to find a job wherever you're stationed. That's something you two will have to discuss. If she is joining as well, that is the best scenario - then the military can station or deploy you two together. But please remember to respect HER career and her decisions. She should not have to drop everything and sacrifice for your job.
Please feel free to DM me with any questions - best of luck!
 
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Hey guys, big time news. Got selected for the scholarship in the February boards! Super stoked. There seems to be a problem though. My current acceptance won't sign the Academic Year Statement until school start, which is in July. I am currently on 2 other waitlists of schools that would almost certainly sign the AYS immediately assuming I'm accepted off the waitlist.

Could the scholarship be revoked for not being able to get the AYS signed by a certain time?

Apparently the scroll has been sent up for approval and is currently in progress; is scroll approval contingent on the AYS at all?

Basically, if I don't get the med school acceptance until May/June and my AYS is not signed until then, could the scholarship be revoked? What should I do in this situation?
 
Hey guys, big time news. Got selected for the scholarship in the February boards! Super stoked. There seems to be a problem though. My current acceptance won't sign the Academic Year Statement until school start, which is in July. I am currently on 2 other waitlists of schools that would almost certainly sign the AYS immediately assuming I'm accepted off the waitlist.

Could the scholarship be revoked for not being able to get the AYS signed by a certain time?

Apparently the scroll has been sent up for approval and is currently in progress; is scroll approval contingent on the AYS at all?

Basically, if I don't get the med school acceptance until May/June and my AYS is not signed until then, could the scholarship be revoked? What should I do in this situation?
Navy HPSP**
 
Does anyone know how many spots are left for Air Force or how to judge likelihood of receiving scholarship?

*4 year applicant
 
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how important is choosing a school to prep for/do well in military match? Trying to decide between rowanSOM (state school which is close to family) vs CCOM (private school with good reputation in chicagoland). I have a feeling that I should just go to rowanSOM where I will be more at home as the program I go to will not have a drastic effect on matching over how I do and what I do at each respective program, but wanted to get some feedback. Thanks in advance.
 
I’ve been offered the HPSP scholarship with the Air Force and was hoping someone might be able to answer a question I have regarding COT. Because nothing has been finalized yet I don’t think I’ll commission in time to go to COT this summer (I start med school in July) which is fine by me because my wife is due with our first child in June. I am a bit concerned about what COT will be like the summer of 2021 though, does anyone know if it will still be a 5 week program for med students? If it’s 8 weeks I’d either miss the last portion of MS1 or the first week of MS2 and I don’t really see that going over well. Anyone know how that might play out? I’ve seen mixed reviews on SDN and reddit. Thanks in advance.
 
Hello, I have recently been informed that I've been put on the Order of Merit (OML) list for the Army. Does anyone know what my chances are of getting off of the waitlist? According to my recruiter, I am one of 6 in the nation on OML, 24 people thus far have been commissioned, 120 people have been selected but not have fully accepted the scholarship yet and 148 people are currently getting reviewed by the boards. The Army is accepting 290 people this year. I would like to know historically around how many people come off of this waitlist every year.

I have been approved for the unsubsidized loan for FAFSA in case things don't work out.
 
I was placed on the alternate list recently in the 20s. Anyone know what the chances are like still? Should I try applying to a different branch? Thanks
 
I was placed on the alternate list recently in the 20s. Anyone know what the chances are like still? Should I try applying to a different branch? Thanks
You should definitely apply for multiple branches
 
I was placed on the alternate list recently in the 20s. Anyone know what the chances are like still? Should I try applying to a different branch? Thanks


Which branch put you on the alternate list? I just heard Navy still had about 150 slots.
 
Does anyone know the number of people that are placed on OML for the Army? My recruiter told me that everyone who got reviewed on the May 12th board was placed on OML and they JUST took 10 people off of it. Last month 1 was only 1 of 6...
 
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