And all that to spend a ton of money convincing programs that I'm the extremely cheap labor they want to hire!
One of my EM buddies got the interview invite, logged in to pick a date on ERAS 45 seconds later. He got waitlisted and never got off of it. Granted it was a sht program but this kinda stuff does happen
Thats doubly ****ed. Man, I thought the stress was over.
lol what the stress hasn't even started yet.
I applied 15 prelim 15 TY and all I really did was apply to programs in areas around my top choices. I still ended up in different city from my advanced so it’s kinda a crap shoot. And I had no idea which programs had combined programs prior to the interview.
I had to resize it down to a tiny size with terrible resolution basically
I used that video, and I used jpeg format at the end when saving it. It ended up being 142 kb.
Do you know if it matters whether you do prelim or TY depending on the specialty? And what is the difference between the two?
It doesn’t matter really. The advice I got was do the chillest option possible. The only difference might be if you’re trying to do IR some people recommend a prelim surgery year but otherwise I don’t think it matters. Prelim generally has more medicine rotations whereas TY has more electives + a month of surgery and EM.
Thank you for clearing that up. I am applying to Neurology. So I am wondering if maybe they might need the programs with the most medicine rotations. Luckily though categorical programs are more popular than advanced ones in Neuro, so I'll definitely apply mostly categorical. I'll have to dig more into programs to see what they recommend.
It sounds like it would be one supplemental sent to all of them, but not sure.
You first make a list of advanced programs. Then for each advanced program you can make a supplemental list of all the prelims you want to rank.
Why is it hard for PDs to save that spot for 24 hours?
I doubt it's hard, they just have no reason to.
Yeah, I’m also super confused about how the prelim/advanced match works.
Yes
Thank you!
Don’t do it
I am assuming you're talking about your personally formatted (and not ERAS) CV.
Yeah it's scary!!
Might as well shoot your shot on those reaches.
Yeah, there is one in Las Vegas, I think, but I'm not sure otherwise. It's going to be mad expensive if I have to pay double for the same program to get their radiology and their prelim.
That's my thought. Might as well, and if I break the glass ceiling, great. I just don't know if I have too many reaches on my current list haha.
For the most part, you REALLY don’t want your programs prelim. You want to go to a smaller hospital and chill. Even the TYs at most university programs are awful.
Is it really that bad? I would ideally like to not move all the time, so staying in one place for 5 years is very appealing to me. Then again, I guess I could try and do a prelim at a smaller hospital near my program, but the moving is really what gets me. My fiancee and I are planning to start a family during intern year, and I have to imagine moving with a baby would be rough.
Yes. Community hospitals almost universally have better prelims.
Ask about the prelim year at your DR interviews. Most of the residents will tell you not to do it. You’ll seriously run it on people who matched at their home program from med school who still chose to move several hours away and come back a year later.
I agree. Do the math during your interviews on the work load. Some prelims I interviewed at for convenience of location were 6 days a week most of the year and 12 hour days.... Compare that to my top choice and other TYs with many months of 5 days a week 8-5. My SO and I decided that having to rent a U-Haul one more time and not being a little baby about it was worth having HUNDREDS of hours more free time with my family over the year.
Yeah my busiest months will still have 2 weekends per month off and I’m doing zero night float the whole year. I get to pick my shifts on ER. Just whatever I want to get the hours. There’s no call on surgery. There’s a soft cap at 7 inpatients but the residents said I’ll probably see 3-4. If I matched rads in SoCal and this program was in freaking Maine then I’d still go here for the TY after seeing the garbage that IM prelims have to go through at some of these places.
I agree with @Ho0v-man . One my co-interns is an IR person, and they have the exact same schedule as the rest of the surgery interns, prelims and categorical have the same rotations here. Really good for someone trying to get a categorical surgery spot after a prelim year, but not so good if you’re a radiology resident trying to chill before your actual residency lol. You’re living the surgery schedule the entire year and you get pounded
Just to be clear, I, and I think most people would be cool with that kind of merciless buttock pulverization if it actually helped you in the future. But honestly just learning the ins and outs of a variety different fields like a good TY will let you do is probably better for a future radiologist than staying up for 30+ hours doing admits and repleting potassium while pretending it’s a learning experience.
Once for prelim, once for residency, and once for fellowship (likely). 3 times in 6 years is quite a bit. Especially since med school made me move for rotations. So all in all, it would be 5 times over a decade with the move for med school and the move for rotations.
Neuro requires an IM prelim. Do not do a surgery prelim. TY's greatly depend upon how they are structured, but often fall short of requirements.
1. Program dependent. Because you're supposed to have a 10 hour break between shifts, the total shift shouldn't be longer that 14 hours (since you probably have a bunch of NF shifts in a row).
There is no CV you upload in ERAS, in case there was any foncusion.
That was part of the confusion. I did not realize that you don't upload one. My school kept telling me that I need to make a CV, so I made one and formatted it very nicely for submission. Well, at least I got everything else together for it already.
I can't back this up with data but I'm fairly confident that the average rad res stays on for fellowship at their program if they match to a good place for residency because they don't want to move. Obviously some people leave to go big name but if you look at the lists each year many fill from within.
We moved 4 times in the same time span. It's not fun, but not that bad either.
