You choose to take 100-1000x more spike proteins from getting infected and the multiple order of magnitude higher chance of death. Noted.
I keep trying to tell you that cytokine responses are short term adverse events because we do have data in the short term. Sure, we don't have long term safety data yet but you continue to bring up short term issues that should have surfaced in the trials that we do have. You still haven't mentioned any adverse effect that could feasibly be worse than actually being infected.
I have none, it's not clear cut to me. Five years is a long time to wait. The Novavax style is less intrusive and if you are super concerned, that's the lowest risk as cell hijacking is not involved. I'm much more conservative on recommendations due to Dengvaxia and AVA.
www.wsj.com
I am not arguing with you as I have stated that I agree with you that the cytokine storm is a short term effect.
Again, you go by your opinion without anything to support your opinion- Noted.
Again, how many have died to to covid vs. getting a "cytokine storm" due to the vaccine? You love active replicating viruses, destroying your lungs inside you, huh?
You know a troll account when you see one.
Dude is trying to say vaccine has more long term effects than the infection. Hahahahah What a joke.
I could have sworn I read rx1993's ramblings in earlier threads. This explains a lot
I now see why you have been banned. Lies, damn lies and MF lies. Anyone who says the vaccine has been rushed needs to turn their mind cards in as you have no mind. These vaccines are 10+ years old. There have been many mRNA vaccines developed, including for Zika, Rabies and Influenza. They have not been brought to market due ti efficacy and not due to side effects.
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Why are there so many conspiracy theorists in the pharmacy profession?
Well, we will just have to agree to disagree.I'm sorry, I have to disagree with you pointedly on that assertion. This was a rush job, even on the efficacy. Pfizer, Moderna, and the rest of the regulatory world openly acknowledge this. Efficacy and the endpoint chosen are due to the exigency, this would never fly in a normal situation. The rest of those vaccines are developmental.
Emergency Use Authorization for Vaccines Explained
FDA explains the Emergency Use Authorization for Vaccineswww.fda.gov
That is not to say that people should not take the vaccine, but we're not doing the normal pacing and longitudinal work that we would ordinarily do before approval. In fact, they are not approved but under Emergency Use Authorization. All those companies have some way to go. FDA explicitly expects more data before a full approval will be granted. In the interim, we accept their forward data collection but are only doing EUA as this would not be sufficient for the full but that will not come in time for many patients.
I know you want to advocate for immunization, and I agree with you to a point. But we should not let our own biases override our rational judgment. I'm not turning in my mind cards, my mind and heart are in the right place. Your mind needs to grasp that we are in exceptional circumstances and that exigencies are occurring, this is not anything like normal. It is materially not true that this was not accelerated. Now, I am quite on the same page that it was not dirtily rushed as FDA is too conservative for that, but this was not the norm. You've lived through PhRMA's failures often enough to know that good intentions are not necessarily good science. We don't really know the long-term safety, that's why none of those have been approved yet. But we don't know and we continually are vigilant on safety right now, and none of them are openly unsafe or cause widespread catastrophic adverse effects.
Rx1992/3 is a troll, but not all of us who have reservations are anti-science or anti-vaccination. I'm quite open that I have reservations as this technology is new, and I lived through the biologics licensing to see some of them cause some really fatal reactions in Phase I and II testing. I hope BioNTech got the science right and that Pfizer and Moderna got the subcontractors for manufacturing and QC right, but hope is not reality, and we will only know in time.
Hyperbole is not helpful. Fear is not the answer.
More like there really isn't a demand for such vaccines compared to the current situation
www.latimes.com
You to need to put your skepticism aside and look at things objectively.
Yep, I believe the article states that these were all just based on observation. It is fine to use precaution until more information is known regarding the details. Yes, when vague information lacking detail is presented to me, I tend to be skeptical of said claims ("information" as you choose to call it)You to need to put your skepticism aside and look at things objectively.
The chief epidemiologist in California is not skeptical. Why do you think the recommendation to pause 300,000 was made. Just for fun, to create mass hysteria? Those are potentially life saving doses.
Mainstream media is the one who is riding the Covid bandwagon. So when information contrary to it is presented you now view it with skepticism
Let's hope the top health expert in California wasn't going off on vague information lacking detail as you call it.
Well, when they called it Operation Warp Speed, it was not a figure of speech
They are referring to chemical reaction in the sense of mechanism of action like a drug.
Yes it does which I stated, but that is not it's primary action. The primary action is to create the spike protein which if your body happens to react to it it will.
These are very technical terminologies I agree.
Your statement is correct but does not negate my above arguments about Covid mRNA vaccines. There's no statute of limitations lol.
If you are speaking about the vaccine, STOP spreading anti-vax information.
Not sure if he's spreading anti-vax information. He's just questioning the safety of the vaccine and the practice of how they're given. Nothing wrong with asking questions.
No, I am not an anti-vaxxer....all I'm saying is the process was out of the norm (fast track); I'm not saying the proper steps were not taken in regards to both safety and efficacy.
