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The Twitter disease is spreading
Where's a post about representation not being important?You do know what thread you’re in?
Half of the posts in this thread have been about importance or lack there of of representation in medicine.
These posts support the view of people in my camp on the matter
Dare you to reply
He's trying to help people out themselves as racists. Which... is indeed kind of funny.I'm just curious. He's a smart fella. Must be a reason for it. It's a nice picture and tweet. I enjoy the sentiment. But, I don't think he's a "feel good cat videos" type of poster.
He's just trying to troll someone into saying something, probably anything, about identity politics that he can spin as white supremacist and get the thread shut down. Nope.Where's a post about representation not being important?
Some posts are MOABs and some are MCslol. imagine reading this thread - seriously read it some time - and then saying that these posts are Molotov Cocktails.
wow.
I get it, and I'm not trolling him. The overarching gist of this thread is not that diversity is unimportant, it's, "no ****, diversity is important."He's just trying to troll someone into saying something, probably anything, about identity politics that he can spin as white supremacist and get the thread shut down. Nope.
I'm not entirely sure about that. There are some dubious takes enclosed within. Trolling for more dubious takes is a.... choice, I guess.I get it, and I'm not trolling him. The overarching gist of this thread is not that diversity is unimportant, it's, "no ****, diversity is important."
Gist, not everything. My take, and my posts however they're interpreted are meant to emphasize how boring the approach to solving this problem is. It's just righteous indignation.I'm not entirely sure about that. There are some dubious takes enclosed within. Trolling for more dubious takes is a.... choice, I guess.
I'm not entirely sure about that. There are some dubious takes enclosed within. Trolling for more dubious takes is a.... choice, I guess.
It's the equivalent of posting a racist joke and then calling out people that laugh at it.
you're an absolute dope lol.
the thread is called DARE YOU TO REPLY and you're accusing ME of posting for being bombastic?
get a freaking grip dude.
I too disagree with simul's take. My take on our posts in this thread reminds me of this clip from family guy.you're an absolute dope lol.
the thread is called DARE YOU TO REPLY and you're accusing ME of posting for being bombastic?
get a freaking grip dude.
Out of everyone who posts here, you are the only one who posts or has posted Twitter links without further commentary. Doesn't that give you at least a little bit of pause?
Interesting to move to a personal insult / attack. I've stayed kind and polite and professional. I wish you were able to do so.
Epic.I think you just enjoy arguing.
First post was a clear story, did you click it?
Second post was a picture, yes.
I wish you wouldn’t play dumb
I wanted to post a response to that second pic as I was very upset about the mask mandate these fascist ORs continue to enforce. KHE FOREVER!!!JD, come on man, you know you were baiting for a reaction. Just own it. Maybe you'll get a bite next time.
are you daring me to reply?That is dangerous territory … do not wade into the m*sk debate
okay - here is your commentary
'This story is interesting and demonstrates why representation in medicine can be so important to patients, despite many posters in this thread feeling that it should not matter at all. Please read if you have a second, which Im guessing you do as you're bored lurking on SDN'
the calls for 'commentary' are a farce.
In practical terms, end result of affirmative action comes down to replacing Asians and Indians with urm. The percentage of caucasians does not really change (university of California experience when ended aa, number of Caucasian students did not increase) In many of these elite institutions/ Asians and Indians are over represented. Basically swapping one darker skin tone for another. For medschool, someone with a Native American grandparent, or a wealthy South American jew gets much greater preference than a Vietnamese boat refuge who had to endure camps and poverty.
and to play your ridiculous game - if angling for annoying replies was what I was after - clearly I struck gold. this is the most active this thread has been in weeks. 30 posts for two seemingly harmless tweets. clearly something was triggered.
just searched the word representation in this thread and this is one of the first things i saw.
many posts of this ilk in this thread, where there has been debate back and forth on the importance of diversity in medicine.
That is dangerous territory … do not wade into the m*sk debate
“Do you not know there comes a midnight hour when every one must throw off his mask?”are you daring me to reply?
just searched the word representation in this thread and this is one of the first things i saw.
many posts of this ilk in this thread, where there has been debate back and forth on the importance of diversity in medicine.
Angling for someone to say something jerky and racist as bait. Multiple posters have said this. No one said angling for annoying responses.
Story checks out. Yes, JD, I'm sure that your DM is full of people who are hesitant to express an opinion about progressive ideas because discussing such things on an anonymous message board, let alone on a place like Twitter under your real name, would be far too risky.Many many many people read here and never post, and my DMs are full of people who tell me that is true.
this is just too good…
The masses of progressive people yearning to have their voices heard on social media.
Dude I am literally cracking up. Thanks for all the entertainment this morning.God you’re honestly really not that smart.
Sdn is not social media.
One way to interpret that tweet is that it's important for patients of the same race, who live in a society that has historically, and currently, discriminated against them, to be able to commiserate, or even to be able to see that progress is being made. Another way to interpret that tweet is that the patient now no longer has to worry about a racist piece of **** who only got his career because of his privileged upbringing performing an operation on him that might've actually helped. Tweets like this both illustrate progress and the lack thereof. ANd I think you know it. However, you've convinced yourself there's only one interpretation, and any other one represents some sort of close-minded POV. It's the pot calling the kettle black.Okay good - so now one can see WHY I posted that story?
You may not agree with the importance of black patients having black doctors to look up to or to help take care of them. That's fine. or maybe you sympthatize but also feel bad for the asians who get 'screwed'. I get that too.
But that is why I posted that.
One way to interpret that tweet is that it's important for patients of the same race, who live in a society that has historically, and currently, discriminated against them, to be able to commiserate, or even to be able to see that progress is being made. Another way to interpret that tweet is that the patient now no longer has to worry about a racist piece of **** who only got his career because of his privileged upbringing performing an operation on him that might've actually helped. Tweets like this both illustrate progress and the lack thereof. ANd I think you know it. However, you've convinced yourself there's only one interpretation, and any other one represents some sort of close-minded POV. It's the pot calling the kettle black.
If one of your former patients referred to you as "some Asian Guy," would you have a problem with it, or would that be contingent on their skin color?I mean - is the second interpretation really fair? Is that something that you're concerned about? That there may be some amazing doctor out there that would have saved the patient's life, but because some black doc took his spot, the patient may die or have a worse outcome?
If you want to talk about this, let's talk.
to me that seems like a straw man.
If one of your former patients referred to you as "some Asian Guy," would you have a problem with it, or would that be contingent on their skin color?
"whatever" was the collective response to your posting that tweet. then, the thread heated up, and you made reference to that tweet as somehow indicative of the progress that SDN radonc has a problem with. I'm not offended by that tweet. I don't find that tweet anything. It's just there. An example of nothing in particular besides just that there are more black doctors now. Great. However, if forced to interpret it more deeply, which you're angling for, there are a number of things that tweet could indicate, all of which might be correct, and none of which might be. You seem to think it supports only one viewpoint, and in turn will be liked by those that are correct and disliked by those that are not. I think it's a tweet intended for those who can identify with and appreciate the history, but could reasonably be misinterpreted by others. I hate twitter as it removes nuance from meaningful discussions. It's perfect for making topical, frivolous statements that don't deserve deeper consideration. Twitter exists for a society only interested in the superficial, and is driving us in that direction, which consequently makes a post-racial society even less likely. I find racial history interesting, but race quite boring.kind of a non-sequitur reply it seems to me
but to answer - I myself am not someone that is easily offended or would cry foul. If a patient didnt know my name and if I was asian, and referred to me as 'that asian doc' to someone else, and that person told me, I would probably be like 'whatever'
If one of your former patients referred to you as "some Asian Guy," would you have a problem with it, or would that be contingent on their skin color?
dude this is the 5th post of yours on this page alone talking about me fishing for a reaction!As a card carrying dem, progressives catfishing people into "gotcha" moments is not a particularly endearing nor productive element of my ilk.
I'm up for a conversation. Just not about tweets. Twitter has set us back. We've historically complained about how political soundbites serve to obfuscate in order to make up for a lack of substance. The outlet for this was the national news. Then cable news. Then Twitter came along and basically put substance out of it's misery by allowing everyone to appear substantial, if only in their own mind. I can't have a conversation about a void. There was an snl cartoon I remember where they played audio from "friends" as they talked while the four horsemen of the apocalypse rode in and the apocalypse commenced. That's how I imagine a conversation about tweets.dude this is the 5th post of yours on this page alone talking about me fishing for a reaction!
why the hell are you so into this? maybe you should take a breather
I guess I was 'fishing' in that any post on a message board is to have a conversation. I was actually kind of happy that it seemed like Ray D Ayshun wanted to have a convo but then it derailed into 'well anyone can read into anything on any topic'
What! I was waiting for a knock down drag out on “the wunderlich test” in the dare you to reply thread.So.... JD's career at SDN has come to a tragic end. Continuing to be a dick to other SDN members will not be tolerated. After enough beatings/warnings the banhammer will come down.
All say your final prayers for JD, one of the most prolific posters in SDN RO history, with 2k posts in less than 12 months. He wasn't always right, but he always had an opinion.