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Death Nommy - Game Thread

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Day 4 Yeet Tally
indy (4) - Zenge, indy, rae, samac
fruit (2) - Dubz, April
genny (1) - fruit

7/11
@indysadventures is in the lead!
yeet close in ~1 hour
Missing: @potentialsheltervet @genny @SARdoghandler @DVMDream
 
HRH Queeb SAR said:
Ok so, thoughts on Indy based on iso-ing. Disclaimers first, I am reading them through a newbie lens, which means if they are playing at a 5D level already, it is entirely possible I may be bamboozled. Also, I think they're a similar type of player to how I am with a high amount of noise:content ratio (not a dig, it's also how I enjoy the game the most) with lots of joking and **** posting. So that may also make my read a bit biased towards villager status. That said, I think I am actually making an Indy-as-village argument.

I didn't pull any of their joking posts from early in the game, but there is a deep level of chill vibes through probably their first ~15 posts or so that I think would be a very difficult tone to pull as a wolf in your first game. Especially with a wolf on the chopping block day 1. That's a stressful situation to be in.



Comment directed to Jay, who they then ended up temporarily dropping a vote for. I'm not saying a noob wolf wouldn't drop a vote for Jay, I'm just saying that the rest of the wolf pack would maybe gently push them away from that unless there is a thread consensus, which there definitely wasn't at the time. I don't think a noob wolf purposefully draws the attention of one of the more active and questioning players like that.



Again, could this be wolf theater to ask on thread instead of in your pack? Yes. But this is still not a post I expect to see from a noob wolf because it likely doesn't occur to anyone to ask this for the cred.



Again, going against strong thread consensus to sus Rae. This continues to be a consistent read for Indy and they catch heat for it since most of the thread has a village read on Rae. It is, again, a very strong anti-consensus move that I don't see a noob wolf doing when there are easier pushes to make in this scenario.



They caught a whole lot of heat for the post that sparked this conversation about their book quote but responded in such a cool, collected way. Again, does a wolf make a sketchy sounding post like that was just to quote a book? I think this is noob trying to have fun and catching strays for it (I know the feels, I got sketch read a ton for the exact same things when I started playing)



Sticking by the Rae as scum read, and now poking at Samac. At the risk of inflating samac's ego, you don't poke at samac as a noob wolf. :laugh: Hell I get scared of poking at samac even when I actually legit think she's a wolf, and I'm not even a noob



Still sticking to their read, despite strong thread pressure. This shows a commitment to their own thoughts, even when the easier thing to do would be to "reevaluate" and just go oopsie maybe she is village!




Now these two posts together are interesting because they were village reading DVMD and PSV. However, I think in this case it's more about trying to put up names that they feel village would benefit from based on discussions and consensus today.

To more or less sum up, their overall tone through the first two days was remarkably relaxed and joking. While I'm sure it's possible for a skilled noob wolf to have that level of chill, it is absolutely not what I would expect. They also have a few times gone against thread consensus with their own reads or poked at active, questioning players. Both of these things has caused others to sus them, which is exactly why Indy-as-wolf shouldn't be making these moves, assuming they have reasonable teammates to help guide them on what kind of reads are going to get you heat. They have also stayed solid in their more controversial reads, when it would be a lot easier as a wolf to go with the flow and find arbitrary reasons to change your reads that are getting you heat.

Idk, obviously people have a different view but when looking at the overall tone and progression of their posts, I don't see a wolf here.

Edit: fixing for pronouns
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First of all, thanks for the edit. 🥰

Second, I’ve never felt so seen. 🥺🥲
 
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I am open to this concept, but what would be the benefit in allowing indy to put fruit up for yeet?
 
DVMDream said:
@fruitsalad you mention you have been wanting to be yeeted since before now, can you please show me where?
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I do agree, I’ve been begging for pages and pages now but TBH fruit I don’t remember that until you saw my nominees? Happy to be proven wrong.
 
DVMDream said:
@fruitsalad you mention you have been wanting to be yeeted since before now, can you please show me where?
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Not directly but i expressed this sentiment before

fruitsalad said:
welp i think i’ll be on the chopping block next day, rightly so, seems like my approach to the game has an inherent self defeating aspect to it i’ol need to resolve

I’ll work toward a defense
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fruitsalad said:
I think my inherent flaw regardless of affiliation is the fact i’m not open and clear with my thought process, and the content i do produce naturally gives off yeetable vibes, esp the big shouty caps or inconsistent reads or unexplained changes

Need to work on that, every time i’m yeeted is for correct reasons (including the misyeet)

This isn’t meant to be an appeal to emotion or anything, and if it is, add it to scum equity if you insist, it’s something i’ve been thinking about for a while that i’m trying to resolve

Sorry for the tangent
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Aprilthearab said:
Okay so assuming I'm flipping tonight, I want to make a compilation of everyone's three choices and sort out a kind of pseudo-vote

@Zenge142
@potentialsheltervet
@indysadventures
@samac
@WildZoo
@genny
@fruitsalad
@SARdoghandler
@_rae_
@JaggedJimmyJay
@DVMDream

This is likely redundant for a lot of people but I'm not caught up, can you all reply to this or tag me with your three? And do the same if you change your mind before yeet close
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fruitsalad said:
myself, genny, psv i think
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indysadventures said:
First of all, thanks for the edit. 🥰

Second, I’ve never felt so seen. 🥺🥲
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Sorry I had to edit! The worst part is it took me almost as long to edit as it did to write because I messed up so many times, then hit post and immediately "DAMMIT"

But yeah I think you and I play very similarly 😍 Hopefully I'll have more time when we play together in the future and we can **** post together while finding wolves!
 
HRH Queeb SAR said:
Sorry I had to edit! The worst part is it took me almost as long to edit as it did to write because I messed up so many times, then hit post and immediately "DAMMIT"

But yeah I think you and I play very similarly 😍 Hopefully I'll have more time when we play together in the future and we can **** post together while finding wolves!
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Yes, please! 🤣🤣🤣🤣
 
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WildZoo said:
And we're back
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DVMDream said:
Is this somehow more inherently wolfy? Also what do you think of fruit heavily implying of doing the same/saying they should be yeeted?
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I think it doesn’t matter much either way and there’s a high chance they’re both wolves and I’m going with leaving the one who seems more invested Alive.
 
Aprilthearab said:
I don't know what just happened because I never clicked post. What I was TRYING to say was can we try to convince indy to switch out one of tomorrow's candidates for fruit
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I think they already stated they would be open to suggestions, but we have to remember if either of them are wolf, they will be lying through their teeth about who they are putting up.
 
Day 4 Yeet Tally
indy (4) - Zenge, indy, rae, samac
fruit (3) - Dubz, April, genny
genny (1) - fruit

8/11
yeet close in ~45 minutes
Missing: PSV, SAR, DVMD
 
Aprilthearab said:
I don't know what just happened because I never clicked post. What I was TRYING to say was can we try to convince indy to switch out one of tomorrow's candidates for fruit
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I like that I initially read the first post as, “can we convince Indy to not self-yeet….” But glad to add “…..before including fruit” 🤣 I’ll consider it.
 
potentialsheltervet said:
Assembling a fruit parfait. Here we go:
Very beginning of the game. Hate to harp on the Clem read again, but I can't let it go.


Switching around on not just Clem, but DVMD. I'm not sure I noticed that the first time I read the thread.

First colored reads list. Note the lower half-- that will be relevant.

Justification for the Clem switchup. Though as later noted, the Clenge disagreement wasn't very aggressive, so a little strange to make this read.

Indy getting a lil boost...

And an explanation...

I don't remember why I quoted this. I guess explanation?

Fruit asserted there is no compatibility between them and Stagg. I disagree.

Okay I feel bad about this one but also the wording interested me. Piqued my interested that it's phrased as "the misyeet" when it seems the discussion is also being had about a potential yeet this game. Would that not be a misyeet?

Double uno reverse is simply a 360.

This was an interesting assertion and later clarified that Zenge was the likely lurker. It went no further.

Going from pushing Clem to pushing Rae for not being unpaired with Stagg, which is ?

reads progress: April down, Clem and Indy up.

Clearing Indy for light Stagg reasons.

And not understanding the Indy suspicions despite earlier being suspicious of Indy...

April did a big jump

And Indy plummeted

This, in response to who might be a wolf based on the reaction test, is interesting because then Fruit goes on to talk about Indy/me/Genny being the ones of interest for their top picks.

^^ here

And the final reads. Indy back in the bottom, along with me and genny. SAR and DVMD just above us.
What sticks out to me doing this ISO is that, despite changing a lot of reads on some people, others have remained intriguingly static. Mine, for instance, which seems to have started as wolfy before I even entered the thread and has not changed at all. genny, as well. DVMD also has remained near the bottom of the reads list. Indy is the one who's bounced around Fruit's POE the most, from in to out to in again. genny, myself, and DVMD seem to be sitting in the POE completely impervious to reevaluation, unlike others.
Obviously things around myself stick out. But I've talked myself out of village leaning fruit.
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This is a good find. In conjunction with fruit looking the worst of the three wrt Stagg interactions, I think I'm comfy with my vote.
 
DVMDream said:
I think they already stated they would be open to suggestions, but we have to remember if either of them are wolf, they will be lying through their teeth about who they are putting up.
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Yeah, that's fine and anticipated. I'm mostly just worried about a world where they're w/v and we accidentally vote out the villager. Just in case they're being honest, convincing them to put each other in the vote pool would be ideal. If they flip wolf, then I care less about tomorrow's candidates anyway
 
potentialsheltervet said:
Assembling a fruit parfait. Here we go:
Very beginning of the game. Hate to harp on the Clem read again, but I can't let it go.


Switching around on not just Clem, but DVMD. I'm not sure I noticed that the first time I read the thread.

First colored reads list. Note the lower half-- that will be relevant.

Justification for the Clem switchup. Though as later noted, the Clenge disagreement wasn't very aggressive, so a little strange to make this read.

Indy getting a lil boost...

And an explanation...

I don't remember why I quoted this. I guess explanation?

Fruit asserted there is no compatibility between them and Stagg. I disagree.

Okay I feel bad about this one but also the wording interested me. Piqued my interested that it's phrased as "the misyeet" when it seems the discussion is also being had about a potential yeet this game. Would that not be a misyeet?

Double uno reverse is simply a 360.

This was an interesting assertion and later clarified that Zenge was the likely lurker. It went no further.

Going from pushing Clem to pushing Rae for not being unpaired with Stagg, which is ?

reads progress: April down, Clem and Indy up.

Clearing Indy for light Stagg reasons.

And not understanding the Indy suspicions despite earlier being suspicious of Indy...

April did a big jump

And Indy plummeted

This, in response to who might be a wolf based on the reaction test, is interesting because then Fruit goes on to talk about Indy/me/Genny being the ones of interest for their top picks.

^^ here

And the final reads. Indy back in the bottom, along with me and genny. SAR and DVMD just above us.
What sticks out to me doing this ISO is that, despite changing a lot of reads on some people, others have remained intriguingly static. Mine, for instance, which seems to have started as wolfy before I even entered the thread and has not changed at all. genny, as well. DVMD also has remained near the bottom of the reads list. Indy is the one who's bounced around Fruit's POE the most, from in to out to in again. genny, myself, and DVMD seem to be sitting in the POE completely impervious to reevaluation, unlike others.
Obviously things around myself stick out. But I've talked myself out of village leaning fruit.
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Bringing this back because I think this is a very decent iso at least as far as fruit's reads. So I'm focusing mainly on the posts that psv didn't cover here and looking at content other than reads lists. However, I think what stands out to me when re-reading this, is the impression that Fruits has made a lot of reads and a lot of changes to his reads with little justification.

I think there's also a lot of posts where he has poked sus at players on thread for somewhat nebulous reasoning, but then never follows up with a push OR with questioning of the player he apparently suspects based on that. When looking at the posts as a whole, I think it comes across as very much throwing things at the wall to see if anyone will pick it up to run with it.

I also think the reads lists frequently gives the impression of working hard at solving, when there isn't actually a lot of solving in evidence. I'm going to pull some quotes that hopefully will help to show what I mean here.
 
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indysadventures said:
I like that I initially read the first post as, “can we convince Indy to not self-yeet….” But glad to add “…..before including fruit” 🤣 I’ll consider it.
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Sorry 😅

If you ARE village - including fruit in tomorrow's yeet would be an incredible help. They're a very central part of the POE and even though we're not guaranteed to yeet them out tomorrow, having the option is important, both from a game-solving standpoint as well as a game tolerance/enjoyment standpoint because some people might find your current options are all some degree of villagey, and we've all seen how discouraged we get when we are forced to pick someone out of our village reads.
 
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