Death Nommy - Game Thread

[Animal Midwife]

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Day 4 Yeet Tally
indy (4) - Zenge, indy, rae, samac
fruit (2) - Dubz, April
genny (1) - fruit

7/11
@indysadventures is in the lead!
yeet close in ~1 hour
Missing: @potentialsheltervet @genny @SARdoghandler @DVMDream

 

[samac]

I think it could be fruit and Indy

 

[indysadventures]

Ok so, thoughts on Indy based on iso-ing. Disclaimers first, I am reading them through a newbie lens, which means if they are playing at a 5D level already, it is entirely possible I may be bamboozled. Also, I think they're a similar type of player to how I am with a high amount of noise:content ratio (not a dig, it's also how I enjoy the game the most) with lots of joking and **** posting. So that may also make my read a bit biased towards villager status. That said, I think I am actually making an Indy-as-village argument.

Spoiler: Specific Quotes and Thoughts

I didn't pull any of their joking posts from early in the game, but there is a deep level of chill vibes through probably their first ~15 posts or so that I think would be a very difficult tone to pull as a wolf in your first game. Especially with a wolf on the chopping block day 1. That's a stressful situation to be in.



Comment directed to Jay, who they then ended up temporarily dropping a vote for. I'm not saying a noob wolf wouldn't drop a vote for Jay, I'm just saying that the rest of the wolf pack would maybe gently push them away from that unless there is a thread consensus, which there definitely wasn't at the time. I don't think a noob wolf purposefully draws the attention of one of the more active and questioning players like that.



Again, could this be wolf theater to ask on thread instead of in your pack? Yes. But this is still not a post I expect to see from a noob wolf because it likely doesn't occur to anyone to ask this for the cred.



Again, going against strong thread consensus to sus Rae. This continues to be a consistent read for Indy and they catch heat for it since most of the thread has a village read on Rae. It is, again, a very strong anti-consensus move that I don't see a noob wolf doing when there are easier pushes to make in this scenario.



They caught a whole lot of heat for the post that sparked this conversation about their book quote but responded in such a cool, collected way. Again, does a wolf make a sketchy sounding post like that was just to quote a book? I think this is noob trying to have fun and catching strays for it (I know the feels, I got sketch read a ton for the exact same things when I started playing)



Sticking by the Rae as scum read, and now poking at Samac. At the risk of inflating samac's ego, you don't poke at samac as a noob wolf. Hell I get scared of poking at samac even when I actually legit think she's a wolf, and I'm not even a noob



Still sticking to their read, despite strong thread pressure. This shows a commitment to their own thoughts, even when the easier thing to do would be to "reevaluate" and just go oopsie maybe she is village!




Now these two posts together are interesting because they were village reading DVMD and PSV. However, I think in this case it's more about trying to put up names that they feel village would benefit from based on discussions and consensus today.

To more or less sum up, their overall tone through the first two days was remarkably relaxed and joking. While I'm sure it's possible for a skilled noob wolf to have that level of chill, it is absolutely not what I would expect. They also have a few times gone against thread consensus with their own reads or poked at active, questioning players. Both of these things has caused others to sus them, which is exactly why Indy-as-wolf shouldn't be making these moves, assuming they have reasonable teammates to help guide them on what kind of reads are going to get you heat. They have also stayed solid in their more controversial reads, when it would be a lot easier as a wolf to go with the flow and find arbitrary reasons to change your reads that are getting you heat.

Idk, obviously people have a different view but when looking at the overall tone and progression of their posts, I don't see a wolf here.

Edit: fixing for pronouns

First of all, thanks for the edit. 🥰

Second, I’ve never felt so seen. 🥺🥲

 

[DVMDream]

@fruitsalad you mention you have been wanting to be yeeted since before now, can you please show me where?

 

[potentialsheltervet]

I think it could be fruit and Indy

Yeah, I think you could be right. Especially given their mutual uncertainty on reading each other.
Not being able to kill villagers also likely makes it a frustrating atmosphere to wolf in.

 

[DVMDream]

I think it could be fruit and Indy

I am honestly not going to be mad either direction, just trying to decide and I am the most indecisive person I know.


Like seriously don't ask me what I want for dinner, I can't decide that is way too much pressure.

 

[_rae_]

I am open to this concept, but what would be the benefit in allowing indy to put fruit up for yeet?

 

[indysadventures]

@fruitsalad you mention you have been wanting to be yeeted since before now, can you please show me where?

I do agree, I’ve been begging for pages and pages now but TBH fruit I don’t remember that until you saw my nominees? Happy to be proven wrong.

 

[Aprilthearab]

I think it could be fruit and Indy

Do you have a reason for switching back to indy?

 

[fruitsalad]

@fruitsalad you mention you have been wanting to be yeeted since before now, can you please show me where?

Not directly but i expressed this sentiment before

welp i think i’ll be on the chopping block next day, rightly so, seems like my approach to the game has an inherent self defeating aspect to it i’ol need to resolve

I’ll work toward a defense

I think my inherent flaw regardless of affiliation is the fact i’m not open and clear with my thought process, and the content i do produce naturally gives off yeetable vibes, esp the big shouty caps or inconsistent reads or unexplained changes

Need to work on that, every time i’m yeeted is for correct reasons (including the misyeet)

This isn’t meant to be an appeal to emotion or anything, and if it is, add it to scum equity if you insist, it’s something i’ve been thinking about for a while that i’m trying to resolve

Sorry for the tangent

Okay so assuming I'm flipping tonight, I want to make a compilation of everyone's three choices and sort out a kind of pseudo-vote

@Zenge142
@potentialsheltervet
@indysadventures
@samac
@WildZoo
@genny
@fruitsalad
@SARdoghandler
@_rae_
@JaggedJimmyJay
@DVMDream

This is likely redundant for a lot of people but I'm not caught up, can you all reply to this or tag me with your three? And do the same if you change your mind before yeet close

myself, genny, psv i think

 

[SARdoghandler]

First of all, thanks for the edit. 🥰

Second, I’ve never felt so seen. 🥺🥲

Sorry I had to edit! The worst part is it took me almost as long to edit as it did to write because I messed up so many times, then hit post and immediately "DAMMIT"

But yeah I think you and I play very similarly 😍 Hopefully I'll have more time when we play together in the future and we can **** post together while finding wolves!

 

[fruitsalad]

I do agree, I’ve been begging for pages and pages now but TBH fruit I don’t remember that until you saw my nominees? Happy to be proven wrong.

I didnt until april mentioned it and was confused why you listed those 3 when you also sussed me and genny

 

[potentialsheltervet]

I am open to this concept, but what would be the benefit in allowing indy to put fruit up for yeet?

We have no confirmation that's what is actually happening

 

[SARdoghandler]

Okay, off to do the same thing for fruit as I did for indy

 

[indysadventures]

Sorry I had to edit! The worst part is it took me almost as long to edit as it did to write because I messed up so many times, then hit post and immediately "DAMMIT"

But yeah I think you and I play very similarly 😍 Hopefully I'll have more time when we play together in the future and we can **** post together while finding wolves!

Yes, please! 🤣🤣🤣🤣

 

[WildZoo]

And we're back

 

[samac]

I am open to this concept, but what would be the benefit in allowing indy to put fruit up for yeet?

What do you mean?

 

[samac]

Do you have a reason for switching back to indy?

one has voted themselves
One hasn’t

 

[DVMDream]

And we're back

 

[fruitsalad]

Can i at least entertain a genny vote

 

[genny]

Can i at least entertain a genny vote

i'm very entertained by your vote

 

[potentialsheltervet]

Can i at least entertain a genny vote

Not from me.

 

[DVMDream]

one has voted themselves
One hasn’t

Is this somehow more inherently wolfy? Also what do you think of fruit heavily implying of doing the same/saying they should be yeeted?

 

[DVMDream]

What if it really is genny and she is just sitting in the background laughing her butt off?

 

[Aprilthearab]

Can i at least entertain a genny vote

Maybe if you can make a good argument. But personally she isn't a super suspicious read to me right now

 

[genny]

Can i at least entertain a genny vote

you should lobby zenges, but he's awol

 

[fruitsalad]

Is this somehow more inherently wolfy? Also what do you think of fruit heavily implying of doing the same/saying they should be yeeted?

A desire to be yeeted doesnt mean i’ll vote myself (and i won’t)

 

[WildZoo]

samac and zenge just look a bit more overly villagey, i still have a slight paranoia toward you

Stagg told you this would bother me, didn't he

 

[DVMDream]

@fruitsalad which 3 players are you submitting to put up for yeet tomorrow if you are yeeted here?

 

[potentialsheltervet]

What if it really is genny and she is just sitting in the background laughing her butt off?

If it's genny, she's partnered with someone I'll probably never find. Womp

 

[samac]

Is this somehow more inherently wolfy? Also what do you think of fruit heavily implying of doing the same/saying they should be yeeted?

I think it doesn’t matter much either way and there’s a high chance they’re both wolves and I’m going with leaving the one who seems more invested Alive.

 

[fruitsalad]

@fruitsalad which 3 players are you submitting to put up for yeet tomorrow if you are yeeted here?

Indy, genny, PSV, but i’m open to suggestions

 

[fruitsalad]

I think it doesn’t matter much either way and there’s a high chance they’re both wolves and I’m going with leaving the one who seems more invested Alive.

Or what if we’re both village and genny is a wolf

 

[Aprilthearab]

I think it doesn’t matter much either way and there’s a high chance they’re both wolves and I’m going with leaving the one who seems more invested Alive.

Can we try to convince @indysadventures

 

[genny]

yeet fruit

 

[Aprilthearab]

Can we try to convince @indysadventures

I don't know what just happened because I never clicked post. What I was TRYING to say was can we try to convince indy to switch out one of tomorrow's candidates for fruit

 

[DVMDream]

I don't know what just happened because I never clicked post. What I was TRYING to say was can we try to convince indy to switch out one of tomorrow's candidates for fruit

I think they already stated they would be open to suggestions, but we have to remember if either of them are wolf, they will be lying through their teeth about who they are putting up.

 

[Animal Midwife]

Day 4 Yeet Tally
indy (4) - Zenge, indy, rae, samac
fruit (3) - Dubz, April, genny
genny (1) - fruit

8/11
yeet close in ~45 minutes
Missing: PSV, SAR, DVMD

 

[indysadventures]

I don't know what just happened because I never clicked post. What I was TRYING to say was can we try to convince indy to switch out one of tomorrow's candidates for fruit

I like that I initially read the first post as, “can we convince Indy to not self-yeet….” But glad to add “…..before including fruit” 🤣 I’ll consider it.

 

[WildZoo]

Assembling a fruit parfait. Here we go:

Spoiler: Fruit Parfait

Very beginning of the game. Hate to harp on the Clem read again, but I can't let it go.


Switching around on not just Clem, but DVMD. I'm not sure I noticed that the first time I read the thread.

First colored reads list. Note the lower half-- that will be relevant.

Justification for the Clem switchup. Though as later noted, the Clenge disagreement wasn't very aggressive, so a little strange to make this read.

Indy getting a lil boost...

And an explanation...

I don't remember why I quoted this. I guess explanation?

Fruit asserted there is no compatibility between them and Stagg. I disagree.

Okay I feel bad about this one but also the wording interested me. Piqued my interested that it's phrased as "the misyeet" when it seems the discussion is also being had about a potential yeet this game. Would that not be a misyeet?

Double uno reverse is simply a 360.

This was an interesting assertion and later clarified that Zenge was the likely lurker. It went no further.

Going from pushing Clem to pushing Rae for not being unpaired with Stagg, which is ?

reads progress: April down, Clem and Indy up.

Clearing Indy for light Stagg reasons.

And not understanding the Indy suspicions despite earlier being suspicious of Indy...

April did a big jump

And Indy plummeted

This, in response to who might be a wolf based on the reaction test, is interesting because then Fruit goes on to talk about Indy/me/Genny being the ones of interest for their top picks.

^^ here

And the final reads. Indy back in the bottom, along with me and genny. SAR and DVMD just above us.

What sticks out to me doing this ISO is that, despite changing a lot of reads on some people, others have remained intriguingly static. Mine, for instance, which seems to have started as wolfy before I even entered the thread and has not changed at all. genny, as well. DVMD also has remained near the bottom of the reads list. Indy is the one who's bounced around Fruit's POE the most, from in to out to in again. genny, myself, and DVMD seem to be sitting in the POE completely impervious to reevaluation, unlike others.
Obviously things around myself stick out. But I've talked myself out of village leaning fruit.

This is a good find. In conjunction with fruit looking the worst of the three wrt Stagg interactions, I think I'm comfy with my vote.

 

[genny]

oh shoot i should submit some names, huh?

 

[Aprilthearab]

I think they already stated they would be open to suggestions, but we have to remember if either of them are wolf, they will be lying through their teeth about who they are putting up.

Yeah, that's fine and anticipated. I'm mostly just worried about a world where they're w/v and we accidentally vote out the villager. Just in case they're being honest, convincing them to put each other in the vote pool would be ideal. If they flip wolf, then I care less about tomorrow's candidates anyway

 

[SARdoghandler]

Assembling a fruit parfait. Here we go:

Spoiler: Fruit Parfait

Very beginning of the game. Hate to harp on the Clem read again, but I can't let it go.


Switching around on not just Clem, but DVMD. I'm not sure I noticed that the first time I read the thread.

First colored reads list. Note the lower half-- that will be relevant.

Justification for the Clem switchup. Though as later noted, the Clenge disagreement wasn't very aggressive, so a little strange to make this read.

Indy getting a lil boost...

And an explanation...

I don't remember why I quoted this. I guess explanation?

Fruit asserted there is no compatibility between them and Stagg. I disagree.

Okay I feel bad about this one but also the wording interested me. Piqued my interested that it's phrased as "the misyeet" when it seems the discussion is also being had about a potential yeet this game. Would that not be a misyeet?

Double uno reverse is simply a 360.

This was an interesting assertion and later clarified that Zenge was the likely lurker. It went no further.

Going from pushing Clem to pushing Rae for not being unpaired with Stagg, which is ?

reads progress: April down, Clem and Indy up.

Clearing Indy for light Stagg reasons.

And not understanding the Indy suspicions despite earlier being suspicious of Indy...

April did a big jump

And Indy plummeted

This, in response to who might be a wolf based on the reaction test, is interesting because then Fruit goes on to talk about Indy/me/Genny being the ones of interest for their top picks.

^^ here

And the final reads. Indy back in the bottom, along with me and genny. SAR and DVMD just above us.

What sticks out to me doing this ISO is that, despite changing a lot of reads on some people, others have remained intriguingly static. Mine, for instance, which seems to have started as wolfy before I even entered the thread and has not changed at all. genny, as well. DVMD also has remained near the bottom of the reads list. Indy is the one who's bounced around Fruit's POE the most, from in to out to in again. genny, myself, and DVMD seem to be sitting in the POE completely impervious to reevaluation, unlike others.
Obviously things around myself stick out. But I've talked myself out of village leaning fruit.

Bringing this back because I think this is a very decent iso at least as far as fruit's reads. So I'm focusing mainly on the posts that psv didn't cover here and looking at content other than reads lists. However, I think what stands out to me when re-reading this, is the impression that Fruits has made a lot of reads and a lot of changes to his reads with little justification.

I think there's also a lot of posts where he has poked sus at players on thread for somewhat nebulous reasoning, but then never follows up with a push OR with questioning of the player he apparently suspects based on that. When looking at the posts as a whole, I think it comes across as very much throwing things at the wall to see if anyone will pick it up to run with it.

I also think the reads lists frequently gives the impression of working hard at solving, when there isn't actually a lot of solving in evidence. I'm going to pull some quotes that hopefully will help to show what I mean here.

 

[SARdoghandler]

Yeet fruit

To have it on the board while I pull quotes

 

[DVMDream]

Me trying to let go a bit of my indy sus to better decide on my yeet.

 

[indysadventures]

Me trying to let go a bit of my indy sus to better decide on my yeet.

I added fruit just in case I get yeeted, so you can always reconsider in case you misyeet me. 🫡

 

[DVMDream]

Side 1: Go with Indy, stick with that suspicion I have had since literally Day 1.
Side 2: Go with fruit as the iso especially around the Stagg yeet is more sus than Indy.

 

[Aprilthearab]

I like that I initially read the first post as, “can we convince Indy to not self-yeet….” But glad to add “…..before including fruit” 🤣 I’ll consider it.

Sorry 😅

If you ARE village - including fruit in tomorrow's yeet would be an incredible help. They're a very central part of the POE and even though we're not guaranteed to yeet them out tomorrow, having the option is important, both from a game-solving standpoint as well as a game tolerance/enjoyment standpoint because some people might find your current options are all some degree of villagey, and we've all seen how discouraged we get when we are forced to pick someone out of our village reads.

 

[Aprilthearab]

I like that I initially read the first post as, “can we convince Indy to not self-yeet….” But glad to add “…..before including fruit” 🤣 I’ll consider it.

Also what's stopping you from including fruit?

 

[DVMDream]

I added fruit just in case I get yeeted, so you can always reconsider in case you misyeet me. 🫡

Does this mean I have been removed? 😢